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Hi Dark*Star,

 

I had come across Bill Sheeran's site a month or so ago. He did say

he had a research project on Cyril Fagan, but there was nothing much

on him there. However I just took another look at the web site, and

there is now one article that is certainly worthwhile to read:

 

http://www.radical-astrology.com/irish/fagan/bowser.html

 

Thanks for reminding me about this site.

António

 

 

, Dark Star <pansophia@e...>

wrote:

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> Antonio,

>

> The guy who knows more about Cyril Fagan than anyone on the planet

is the

> tropical astrologer Bill Sheeran in Dublin. Address your post to:

> bsheeran@i...

>

> I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

>

> Dark*Star

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Hi Antonio,

 

I thought since you both lived in Dublin you might run into him some evening

at the pub.

I don't agree with Bowser's final conclusion in Sheeran's edge-y designed

link : Some of us have a chart for bi-zodiacal. Besides in the Solunars run

in American Astrology: July/53-March/70, Fagan was often harking back to the

stuff he had tossed out. He was very psychic and a palm reader, did you know

that? With that combo he could throw everything out and still read it off the

wall. Anyone else might just want to save the bath water and the baby.

 

Dark*Star

 

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António wrote:

 

> Hi Dark*Star,

>

> I had come across Bill Sheeran's site a month or so ago. He did say

> he had a research project on Cyril Fagan, but there was nothing much

> on him there. However I just took another look at the web site, and

> there is now one article that is certainly worthwhile to read:

>

> http://www.radical-astrology.com/irish/fagan/bowser.html

>

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At 03:55 PM 11/18/03 -0800, Dark*Star wrote:

>Besides in the Solunars run

>in American Astrology: July/53-March/70, Fagan was often harking back to the

>stuff he had tossed out.

 

Dark*Star, can you tell us what some of those changed beliefs were? Is

there a web site with some of those articles? That's a long time span--1953

to 1970.

 

Therese

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Therese,

 

They weren't changed beliefs. He would just go off where it was useful and

might point out where a tropical tenet seemed to apply. He did go through

the house systems...enbracing one for a while than another. He probably

deserted the 8 fold at the end. Cyril was often changing his mind on stuff

as befits a tropical Gemini Sun. The AA is a 27 year run which would take

much time to go through.

 

Dark*Star

 

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Therese Hamilton wrote:

 

> At 03:55 PM 11/18/03 -0800, Dark*Star wrote:

> >Besides in the Solunars run

> >in American Astrology: July/53-March/70, Fagan was often harking back to the

> >stuff he had tossed out.

>

> Dark*Star, can you tell us what some of those changed beliefs were? Is

> there a web site with some of those articles? That's a long time span--1953

> to 1970.

>

> Therese

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In a message dated 11/20/2003 12:40:41 PM Central Standard Time,

eastwest writes:

 

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> And this seems to be how a sidereal Taurus Sun operates, being the house of

> Venus and the exaltation of the Moon. Change and adaptability. A spring

> like kind of energy, responding to new thoughts. It's nice to know that

> Fagan was adapatable. Any asrologer who has worked in the field for some

> years knows that as new evidence shows up, concepts and ideas have to keep

> changing.

>

> Therese

 

Thanks, Therese, for this succinct defense. /// chriswing

 

 

 

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At 12:49 AM 11/20/03 -0800, Dark*Star wrote:

>They weren't changed beliefs. [Cyril Fagan] would just go off where it was

useful and

>might point out where a tropical tenet seemed to apply. He did go through

>the house systems...enbracing one for a while than another. He probably

>deserted the 8 fold at the end. Cyril was often changing his mind on stuff

>as befits a tropical Gemini Sun.

 

And this seems to be how a sidereal Taurus Sun operates, being the house of

Venus and the exaltation of the Moon. Change and adaptability. A spring

like kind of energy, responding to new thoughts. It's nice to know that

Fagan was adapatable. Any asrologer who has worked in the field for some

years knows that as new evidence shows up, concepts and ideas have to keep

changing.

 

Therese

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, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

> (...) It's nice to know that

> Fagan was adapatable. Any asrologer who has worked in the field for

some

> years knows that as new evidence shows up, concepts and ideas have

to keep

> changing.

>

> Therese

 

And maybe progressed lunars deserve a thorough try by todays

astrologers instead of a quick, uninformed (for lack of trying them),

dismisal.

 

Bob

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Therese,

 

It is Taurean to hold on to an idea resisting change. But with the

Taurus-Gemini mix one holds a concept deeply inviolable but then (Gemini

beckoning) reaches out to take up the new idea which is held the same way...for

a time. We are all composites if our planets straddle sign and constellation,

but if low degrees Sidereal and high in the Tropical we are a double. I am a

double Virgo Mercury. My Sun Leo-Virgo. Venus double Libra. To my eyes triple

signs are a walking textbook of astrological proof. Watch for their charts.

 

Dark*Star

 

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Therese Hamilton wrote:

 

> And this seems to be how a sidereal Taurus Sun operates, being the house of

> Venus and the exaltation of the Moon. Change and adaptability. A spring

> like kind of energy, responding to new thoughts. It's nice to know that

> Fagan was adapatable. Any asrologer who has worked in the field for some

> years knows that as new evidence shows up, concepts and ideas have to keep

> changing.

>

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