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Hi, Adam, welcome to the list! I find your post

very interesting, although I can't answer your

questions. My own experience with Tropical

astrology has been exactly opposite from yours.

Tropical descriptions of my signs never struck me

as true for me, and in many cases seem even

opposite from what I am; and those who know me

also tend to laugh to see me described the way I

am routinely described by tropical astrology

books. I am looking for some answers to some

troubling questions myself and hope you find the

answers to your questions too.

 

elisabeth

 

 

 

--- Adam B <fulywob wrote:

 

--Thanks for your time and response! I'm still

confused and don't

know how to adjust my context since I've been

thinking " tropically "

for so long, Although I believed tropical

astrology was related with

what was actually going on in the sky. I've

studied Edgar Cayce's

works and he also promoted focusing more on the

interactions between

the planets rather than the " signs " they were in.

Now I wonder what

do I do with my beliefs that I have the Moon

(Ruler of Cancer), Mars

and Venus in Cancer. Where do I place all of my

sensitivities, and

emotional energies, and other such things? How

do I undo the

validity of these things I've felt such a

relationship and connection

with all these years? Do you know of any sites or

astrologers who

could do my sidereal natal chart as well as

provide interpretations

and maybe even help me with the transition from

tropical to sidereal?

So much of what Jan Spiller wrote of my

" tropical " natal influences

rang so true for me. Why is this ? Am I just

brainwashed? Help!

And then I wonder am I just going to be

brainwashed by siderealists?

Oh I wish I could intuitively/empathically tap

right into those

planets and sidestep all of the human

interpretations!

 

 

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Adam...

 

I suggest you put the signs down for awhile and simply

focus on the planets themselves. Look at the angles

and their relationships with the planets.

>

> --Thanks for your time and response! I'm still

> confused and don't

> know how to adjust my context since I've been

> thinking " tropically "

> for so long, Although I believed tropical astrology

> was related with

> what was actually going on in the sky. I've studied

> Edgar Cayce's

> works and he also promoted focusing more on the

> interactions between

> the planets rather than the " signs " they were in.

> Now I wonder what

> do I do with my beliefs that I have the Moon (Ruler

> of Cancer), Mars

> and Venus in Cancer. Where do I place all of my

> sensitivities, and

> emotional energies, and other such things? How do I

> undo the

> validity of these things I've felt such a

> relationship and connection

> with all these years?

 

 

Let it go... and appreciate the fact that you have

options and more to discover.

 

Do you know of any sites or

> astrologers who

> could do my sidereal natal chart as well as provide

> interpretations

> and maybe even help me with the transition from

> tropical to sidereal?

 

Contact Ken Bowser. His profession is to do " readings "

in Sidereal.

 

> So much of what Jan Spiller wrote of my " tropical "

> natal influences

> rang so true for me. Why is this ? Am I just

> brainwashed? Help!

 

Dude.... grab a handle... Its OK to find value within

a tropical perspective. There are some elements which

are part of the " stucture " I have developed for myself

to understand " PCB " Planetary Cyclical Behavior. the

Seasonal Ingress points are cyclical sensitive points.

This is not stricktly a black and white world.

 

> And then I wonder am I just going to be brainwashed

> by siderealists?

> Oh I wish I could intuitively/empathically tap right

> into those

> planets and sidestep all of the human

> interpretations!

> >

 

you will ... just like you did with tropical... There

is much in common and that is where you should focus

your interests.

 

 

 

> > Suggest you check out sidereal.zip

>

> --Tried it couldn't get to it.

> >

 

 

What do you mean?

 

> > If you have trouble finding it (Google search for

> > sidereal) I'll send it to you direct....

> >

> > Happy Trails!

> >

> > Juan

> >

> > PS: What's a fulywob anyway?

>

> -- I am the only known surviving fulywob. My

> species is endangered

> almost to extinction. I'm usually found in forests

> and along rivers.

> I'm always hopefully searching for others of my

> species. I think

> I've spotted a few yet for only brief moments. We're

> a fairly quiet

> friendly species.

 

 

So what do you eat?

 

 

Juan

 

 

> >

> > --- Adam B <fulywob@n...> wrote:

> > > I just joined here because of my recent playing

> > > around with my

> > > astronomy computer program. I've casually

> studied

> > > tropical western

> > > astrology for about 15 yrs or so. I've

> especially

> > > found a couple

> > > books by Jan Spiller that have seemed right on.

> But

> > > now I've been

> > > introduced to the procession of the equinoxes!

> My

> > > astronomy program

> > > puts the planets back about a sign or so and I

> > > became so confused. I

> > > asked what was going on and someone pulled open

> the

> > > curtain. I've

> > > always described astrology to others by what's

> > > actually going on in

> > > the sky. It made sense to me and it was the

> only

> > > thing that made

> > > sense. Now I know that if I adjust the year of

> my

> > > birth a thousand

> > > years or so back my sun would've been in Gemini.

> Is

> > > this when they

> > > set in stone the tropical zodiac? Now I'm aware

> of

> > > the drift, and

> > > have become so bewildered. I have very much

> > > identified with my

> > > tropical natal chart and many books seem to ring

> > > true for me. I now

> > > wonder how much for me personaly has my

> personality

> > > been described by

> > > western tropical astrology vs. how much have I

> > > adjusted to the

> > > enculturation of tropical astrology's

> > > interpretations. Am I totally

> > > not what I agreed I was? Am I something

> completely

> > > different? Have

> > > I been brainwashed by tropical astrology? Is

> > > astrology at all have

> > > any insight? and Why have those tropical

> > > interpretations seemed to

> > > explain my personality? Also why did they stop

> > > looking into the sky

> > > and interpret what was physically going on out

> > > there?

> > > I don't expect any answers but would

> appreciate

> > > some responses as a

> > > new member. I appreciate your efforts.

> > > sincerely, Adam

> > >

> > >

> > >

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