Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 THE KRISHNAMURTI SOLAR INGRESS AND THE RYONGCHON TRAGEDY swissinfo April 22, 2004 7:15 PM Thousands feared dead in North Korea blast By Jack Kim and Martin Nesirky SEOUL (Reuters) - Up to 3,000 people have been killed or injured after two trains loaded with fuel collided and exploded at a North Korean station, hours after leader Kim Jong-il had passed through, South Korea's YTN television says. South Korea's Yonhap news agency, which spoke of widespread destruction, said there were thousands of casualties and some form of emergency had been declared in the area near the border with China. " The station was destroyed as if hit by a bombardment and debris flew high into the sky, " Yonhap said, quoting unidentified Chinese sources. YTN in its report quoted witnesses... ----- In the last few months there's been some discussion on this list about earthquakes, and the monthly ingress of the Sun into the sidereal signs. So far, in my opinion, the Krishnamurti ingress has been more explicit than the Fagan-Bradley ingress, especially where the Moon is concerned. The two ingress charts are approximately 24 hours apart. So far the earthquake event charts have tied in nicely with the ingress charts. Generally the Fagan-Bradley school considers only the cardinal ingresses, but with the Krishnamurti ayanamsa I've used the 12 monthly charts. I've tested the Aries ingress (April 13) with the recent tragic train explosion accident in North Korea. As in the earthquake charts, we find the same planets afflicting the angles in the two charts. The Ingress chart suggests the nature of the event. You can see the charts here: http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm Aries Ingress: Desc = 29 Pisces (critical final degree) MC = 3 Cancer; Sun = 0 Aries Mercury (transportation) = 6 Aries (Sun-Mercury conj. Desc square MC) What makes this configuration critical is that Pluto is quincunx the MC and trine to Sun-Mercury, so there's a closed configuration tied to the MC: Pluto-Sun-Mercury-MC Now in the chart of the tragic accident that may have killed 3000 people, Mercury has retrograded back to the final critical degree of Pisces on the ingress descendant. Actually the degree of Mercury is ultra-critical: 29 Pisces 59. The ingress descendant is 29 Pisces 09. Pluto, of course, is closely trine Mercury and also in partile quincunx to the event MC. And Mars is opposite Pluto and quincunx the IC in the event chart. So we have these degrees in the event chart: MC 28 Ari 39 Pluto 28 Sco 28 Merc 29 Pis 59 IC 28 Lib 39 Mars 26 Tau 33 Now I see that there's a yod to the IC: Mars-Mercury-IC. An exact description of the event. So the Pluto-Merucury-MC configuration in the ingress chart is repeated in a slightly different way in the event chart. Now what concerns me in looking at this event chart--we know the transiting Moon is going to reach transiting Mars, which will be even closer to opposing transiting Pluto. Will this set off some other tragic event somewhere in the world? Today or tomorrow I'll be posting more details about the ingress/event charts. There are several other key crossovers between the charts. I've been excited about how the monthly ingress charts tie in with critical world events. This suggests that the phasing of the Krishnamurti zodiac (so far) is valid. In other words, we may have an important clue as to the actual beginning of a sidereal zodiac based on very specific events such as earthquakes. This phasing can be tested with each new quake of signifcant magnitude and perhaps with each net traumatic world event as well. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hi Therese, When you check the Caplunar preceding the event using Fagan_Bradley Ayanamsha, you will see Pluto strongly angular.Mars conjoins Venus in the 9th of transportation.Sun and Mercury(transportation) are in the 8th indicating troubles. I believe that this event has been activated by the new Moon that occurred on the 19th April. It was conjunct the caplunar Mercury while Mars the karaka of accident was applying to the Caplunar Midheaven. Moreover at the time of event,Mars was conjunct the Caplunar Midheaven while opposing Pluto. Mercury was opposing the ascendant of the Aries ingress chart at that location. Cheers, Pingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Pingo, you never worked on those earth quake charts!! Therese At 12:32 PM 4/23/04 -0000, you wrote: >Hi Therese, >When you check the Caplunar preceding the event using Fagan_Bradley >Ayanamsha, you will see Pluto strongly angular.Mars conjoins Venus in >the 9th of transportation.Sun and Mercury(transportation) are in the >8th indicating troubles. I believe that this event has been activated >by the new Moon that occurred on the 19th April. It was conjunct the >caplunar Mercury while Mars the karaka of accident was applying to the >Caplunar Midheaven. Moreover at the time of event,Mars was conjunct >the Caplunar Midheaven while opposing Pluto. Mercury was opposing the >ascendant of the Aries ingress chart at that location. >Cheers, > Pingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Therese, Great post! For some reason, SolarFire says that transit Mercury is still at 0*01 Aries at the time of the accident. It might have something to do with it displaying the time zone correction as -9 rather than -8 as you indicated. Dietmar , Therese Hamilton <eastwest@s...> wrote: > THE KRISHNAMURTI SOLAR INGRESS AND THE RYONGCHON TRAGEDY > > swissinfo April 22, 2004 7:15 PM > > Thousands feared dead in North Korea blast > > By Jack Kim and Martin Nesirky > SEOUL (Reuters) - Up to 3,000 people have been killed or > injured after two trains loaded with fuel > collided and exploded at a North Korean station, hours > after leader Kim Jong-il had passed through, South > Korea's YTN television says. > > South Korea's Yonhap news agency, which spoke of > widespread destruction, said there were thousands of > casualties and some form of emergency had been declared > in the area near the border with China. > > " The station was destroyed as if hit by a bombardment > and debris flew high into the sky, " Yonhap said, > quoting unidentified Chinese sources. YTN in its report > quoted witnesses... > ----- > > In the last few months there's been some discussion on this list about > earthquakes, and the monthly ingress of the Sun into the sidereal signs. So > far, in my opinion, the Krishnamurti ingress has been more explicit than > the Fagan-Bradley ingress, especially where the Moon is concerned. The two > ingress charts are approximately 24 hours apart. So far the earthquake > event charts have tied in nicely with the ingress charts. Generally the > Fagan-Bradley school considers only the cardinal ingresses, but with the > Krishnamurti ayanamsa I've used the 12 monthly charts. > > I've tested the Aries ingress (April 13) with the recent tragic train > explosion accident in North Korea. As in the earthquake charts, we find the > same planets afflicting the angles in the two charts. The Ingress chart > suggests the nature of the event. > > You can see the charts here: http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm > > Aries Ingress: Desc = 29 Pisces (critical final degree) > MC = 3 Cancer; Sun = 0 Aries > Mercury (transportation) = 6 Aries > (Sun-Mercury conj. Desc square MC) > > What makes this configuration critical is that Pluto is quincunx the MC and > trine to Sun-Mercury, so there's a closed configuration tied to the MC: > Pluto-Sun-Mercury-MC > > Now in the chart of the tragic accident that may have killed 3000 people, > Mercury has retrograded back to the final critical degree of Pisces on the > ingress descendant. Actually the degree of Mercury is ultra- critical: 29 > Pisces 59. The ingress descendant is 29 Pisces 09. Pluto, of course, is > closely trine Mercury and also in partile quincunx to the event MC. And > Mars is opposite Pluto and quincunx the IC in the event chart. > > So we have these degrees in the event chart: > MC 28 Ari 39 > Pluto 28 Sco 28 > Merc 29 Pis 59 > IC 28 Lib 39 > Mars 26 Tau 33 > > Now I see that there's a yod to the IC: Mars-Mercury-IC. An exact > description of the event. > > So the Pluto-Merucury-MC configuration in the ingress chart is repeated in > a slightly different way in the event chart. > > Now what concerns me in looking at this event chart--we know the transiting > Moon is going to reach transiting Mars, which will be even closer to > opposing transiting Pluto. Will this set off some other tragic event > somewhere in the world? > > Today or tomorrow I'll be posting more details about the ingress/event > charts. There are several other key crossovers between the charts. I've > been excited about how the monthly ingress charts tie in with critical > world events. This suggests that the phasing of the Krishnamurti zodiac (so > far) is valid. In other words, we may have an important clue as to the > actual beginning of a sidereal zodiac based on very specific events such as > earthquakes. This phasing can be tested with each new quake of signifcant > magnitude and perhaps with each net traumatic world event as well. > > Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 At 04:16 AM 4/24/04 -0000, Dietmar wrote: >Therese, > > Great post! Thank you Dietmar. I'm glad that someone from this list took the time to read it. I don't remember if I had put the extended article on the Lost Zodiac site before I posted to this list. Just in case I hadn't, here's the URL: http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm The position of Mercury was so critical that I made a semi-permanent page out of the article. The charts can be accessed from within the article. The latest news is that a train collided with overhead an electrical system (wires?) which ignited the fuel. The event chart has an angular Uranus square Moon. I think it's more likely there was a collision. It's not possible to get the exact facts from North Korea. However, the country has requested outside aid. >For some reason, SolarFire says that transit Mercury >is still at 0*01 Aries at the time of the accident. It might have >something to do with it displaying the time zone correction as -9 >rather than -8 as you indicated. Yes...my Solar Fire 5.1 gave the 29 59 figure. I had to look up the time (-8) in the DOS version of the ASC atlas. Solar Fire 5.1 kept crashing on me when I tried to get the location. Whatever--both figures are highly critical, and in either case Mercury is closely conjunct the Krishnamurti Aries ingress descendant. Such a critical event and such a striking correlation, but still old time siderealists are going to scream: " Fagan-Bradley ayansmsa: It's the only one...!! " Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Therese, I found the Krishnamurti Ingress of Aries very helpful in the Ryongchon. The Fagan and the Krish are both useful. It isn't that one is saying yes and the other no. Dark*Star Therese Hamilton wrote: > THE KRISHNAMURTI SOLAR INGRESS AND THE RYONGCHON TRAGEDY > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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