Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Therese, I believe you came late upon the scene. Way before Jyotish there was Hindu, spelled Hindoo by the Transcendentalists of the 19th century. The De Luce has an imprint date of 1963 and Sepherial was putting out Indian stuff in the early 20th. I have it all. My first Hindoo book was by a several times married hairdresser from New Jersey who had been in a mental institution and went to India to study with pandits and returned with their published blessings. Nutty, but seemed to go with the territory and I loved it...hence my somewhat cracked style. I must find it again. Would everyone please sit up and understand that the name was only changed to Vedic because those looking to line their deep pockets wanted to disassociate themselves from worshipping cows, drinking urine and making a first marriage to a tree. That's your precious ACVA, among others. Ptolemy mentions various combination of planets for astrology. Chief among them...Moon-Mercury. No and No? I don't believe you suffer from a skinny Saturn, do you? I'm riddled with Jupiter, even the day and the planetary hour. There's no getting away. God help me. Shanti Therese Hamilton wrote: > These were all guys except for me and a lady who lived in CO. I forget her > name. One other--one Sri Khalsa in NM. There was no Jyotish in the west > until Dennis Harness, David Frawley, et al. formed the ACVA, which I > quickly departed from. Male chauvinism. > > > No, the Moon does great harm to Mercury. Fogs it up. Take a look at anyone > who has Moon opposed to Mercury in the horoscope. See if they can even > remember the date of their birthdays let alone compute any math problem > mentally. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Yes, I have Moon trine Mercury trine ( I guess that would be considered a minor asp. in Vedic) and a wide quincunx from Mars to Moon. I am TERRIBLE at math. Just awful. I flunked out of 2nd yr. algebra in high school. I'm much better at word things, writing poetry and such. My husband has the opposition and he's a little better but not by much. .... Bettina Therese Hamilton [eastwest] Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:19 PM Trop to Vedic At 04:39 PM 4/25/04 -0700, you wrote: >I was describing the US audience in the >tropical ~ vedic crossover that began in the 90s. These were all guys except for me and a lady who lived in CO. I forget her name. One other--one Sri Khalsa in NM. There was no Jyotish in the west until Dennis Harness, David Frawley, et al. formed the ACVA, which I quickly departed from. Male chauvinism. >Moon and math will mix when stirred with Mercury, even >the minor aspects. No, the Moon does great harm to Mercury. Fogs it up. Take a look at anyone who has Moon opposed to Mercury in the horoscope. See if they can even remember the date of their birthdays let alone compute any math problem mentally. T. " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / ---------- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Sorry I used the word trine twice in one sentence. Shows you how good at math I am; thought I'd written it once, but it was twice. .... Bettina Bettina [chiria] Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:58 PM RE: Trop to Vedic Yes, I have Moon trine Mercury trine ( I guess that would be considered a minor asp. in Vedic) and a wide quincunx from Mars to Moon. I am TERRIBLE at math. Just awful. I flunked out of 2nd yr. algebra in high school. I'm much better at word things, writing poetry and such. My husband has the opposition and he's a little better but not by much. ... Bettina Therese Hamilton [eastwest] Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:19 PM Trop to Vedic At 04:39 PM 4/25/04 -0700, you wrote: >I was describing the US audience in the >tropical ~ vedic crossover that began in the 90s. These were all guys except for me and a lady who lived in CO. I forget her name. One other--one Sri Khalsa in NM. There was no Jyotish in the west until Dennis Harness, David Frawley, et al. formed the ACVA, which I quickly departed from. Male chauvinism. >Moon and math will mix when stirred with Mercury, even >the minor aspects. No, the Moon does great harm to Mercury. Fogs it up. Take a look at anyone who has Moon opposed to Mercury in the horoscope. See if they can even remember the date of their birthdays let alone compute any math problem mentally. T. " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / -------- -- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 > Therese wrote: > > These were all guys except for me and a lady who lived in CO. I forget > her > name. One other--one Sri Khalsa in NM. There was no Jyotish in the > west > until Dennis Harness, David Frawley, et al. formed the ACVA, which I > quickly departed from. Male chauvinism. Hi Therese, The west coast history of Vedic started many years before ACVA. It began in the early '80's with the intro of Vedic into Phylis Kneip's classes at the Sidereal School of Astrology in Los Angeles by myself and Nalini-kantha/Tom Hopke (both of us old Swami Bhaktivedanta disciples from around 1970). I was already connected to the school from the mid '70's (as student and teacher of Fagan siderealism) and later introduced old friends Nalini, Keshava das, Drew Lawrence and Kenny Richards to the class as we began a study of Vedic in ernest. Keshava and Kenny introduced Vedic astrology to Brazil in the early '80's, Keshava eventually becoming the astrologer to the President of Brazil. He still lives in Brazil and speaks and writes fluent Portuguese and is currently translating astrology and other metaphysical books. Chakrapani began teaching there around 1984 and we had in addition many guest teachers including KN Rao, Rashmeen, and Anders Johannson. Phylis herself, an earlier student of De Luce, eventually shifted the entire format of the classes to Vedic. Bill Levacy and Christina Collins (your mystery girl in Colorado) began coming to the classes around 1985. George Roman also attended classes there and too many others to remember. Classes continued there until at least the mid nineties, when Phylis' ill health forced the closure of the school. The charge was $5.00 (for a three hour lecture) and an additional $2.00 maintainance fee to Phylis for tea and cookies--the classes were held in her home in Hollywood. Those were the days......and BTW many women attended who are still doing Vedic in the Los Angeles area--Helene Cushman Woodman, Carol Leveque, Carol Allen, any many more. Best wishes, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Both my Moon and Mercury are exalted and Mercury is angular (6 degs from 4th cusp) and I truly stink at math. I'm good at word things. .... Bettina Christopher Kevill [christopher.kevill] Monday, April 26, 2004 10:55 AM Re: Trop to Vedic Just to weigh in on this tangent, I have Mercury and Moon exchanging signs and *exactly* parallel to the minute, and I got an " A " in my university social statistics course. But then again, my Mercury is close to an angle. As always, influences need to assessed fully... Chris - " Bettina " <chiria Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:58 PM RE: Trop to Vedic > Yes, I have Moon trine Mercury trine ( I guess that would be considered a > minor asp. in Vedic) and a wide quincunx from Mars to Moon. I am TERRIBLE > at math. Just awful. I flunked out of 2nd yr. algebra in high school. I'm > much better at word things, writing poetry and such. > > My husband has the opposition and he's a little better but not by much. > > > ... Bettina > > Therese Hamilton [eastwest] > Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:19 PM > > Trop to Vedic > > > At 04:39 PM 4/25/04 -0700, you wrote: > > >I was describing the US audience in the > >tropical ~ vedic crossover that began in the 90s. > > These were all guys except for me and a lady who lived in CO. I forget her > name. One other--one Sri Khalsa in NM. There was no Jyotish in the west > until Dennis Harness, David Frawley, et al. formed the ACVA, which I > quickly departed from. Male chauvinism. > > >Moon and math will mix when stirred with Mercury, even > >the minor aspects. > > No, the Moon does great harm to Mercury. Fogs it up. Take a look at anyone > who has Moon opposed to Mercury in the horoscope. See if they can even > remember the date of their birthdays let alone compute any math problem > mentally. > > T. > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > > > > -------- -- > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Just to weigh in on this tangent, I have Mercury and Moon exchanging signs and *exactly* parallel to the minute, and I got an " A " in my university social statistics course. But then again, my Mercury is close to an angle. As always, influences need to assessed fully... Chris - " Bettina " <chiria Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:58 PM RE: Trop to Vedic > Yes, I have Moon trine Mercury trine ( I guess that would be considered a > minor asp. in Vedic) and a wide quincunx from Mars to Moon. I am TERRIBLE > at math. Just awful. I flunked out of 2nd yr. algebra in high school. I'm > much better at word things, writing poetry and such. > > My husband has the opposition and he's a little better but not by much. > > > ... Bettina > > Therese Hamilton [eastwest] > Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:19 PM > > Trop to Vedic > > > At 04:39 PM 4/25/04 -0700, you wrote: > > >I was describing the US audience in the > >tropical ~ vedic crossover that began in the 90s. > > These were all guys except for me and a lady who lived in CO. I forget her > name. One other--one Sri Khalsa in NM. There was no Jyotish in the west > until Dennis Harness, David Frawley, et al. formed the ACVA, which I > quickly departed from. Male chauvinism. > > >Moon and math will mix when stirred with Mercury, even > >the minor aspects. > > No, the Moon does great harm to Mercury. Fogs it up. Take a look at anyone > who has Moon opposed to Mercury in the horoscope. See if they can even > remember the date of their birthdays let alone compute any math problem > mentally. > > T. > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > > > > -------- -- > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Steve, Thanks for the history lesson. You really got in on the " ground floor " . Was it called vedic in those days? It seems like many Faganites crossed over at that time. Why do think this happened? Was it a reflection of the systems themselves, or perhaps it was something in the personalities involved? Perhaps there wasn't enough coalescing and organizing energy in the Fagan school to keep the wheels turning. Too many lonely men in basements working with slide rules and log tables, not enough biscuits and tea socials. Would really like to know your experience of this. It's a fascinating chapter in the contemporary history of astrology -- how one school grows while another recedes. Maybe I will finish my dissertation after all... lol Chris - " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara Sunday, April 25, 2004 9:21 PM Re: Trop to Vedic > > > > > Therese wrote: > > > > These were all guys except for me and a lady who lived in CO. I forget > > her > > name. One other--one Sri Khalsa in NM. There was no Jyotish in the > > west > > until Dennis Harness, David Frawley, et al. formed the ACVA, which I > > quickly departed from. Male chauvinism. > > Hi Therese, > > The west coast history of Vedic started many years before ACVA. > > It began in the early '80's with the intro of Vedic into Phylis Kneip's > classes at the Sidereal School of Astrology in Los Angeles by myself and > Nalini-kantha/Tom Hopke (both of us old Swami Bhaktivedanta disciples > from around 1970). > > I was already connected to the school from the mid '70's (as student > and teacher of Fagan siderealism) and later introduced old friends > Nalini, Keshava das, Drew Lawrence and Kenny Richards to the class as we > began a study of Vedic in ernest. > > Keshava and Kenny introduced Vedic astrology to Brazil in the early > '80's, Keshava eventually becoming the astrologer to the President of > Brazil. He still lives in Brazil and speaks and writes fluent Portuguese > and is currently translating astrology and other metaphysical books. > > Chakrapani began teaching there around 1984 and we had in addition many > guest teachers including KN Rao, Rashmeen, and Anders Johannson. > > Phylis herself, an earlier student of De Luce, eventually shifted the > entire format of the classes to Vedic. > > Bill Levacy and Christina Collins (your mystery girl in Colorado) began > coming to the classes around 1985. George Roman also attended classes > there and too many others to remember. > > Classes continued there until at least the mid nineties, when Phylis' > ill health forced the closure of the school. > > The charge was $5.00 (for a three hour lecture) and an additional $2.00 > maintainance fee to Phylis for tea and cookies--the classes were held in > her home in Hollywood. > > Those were the days......and BTW many women attended who are still doing > Vedic in the Los Angeles area--Helene Cushman Woodman, Carol Leveque, > Carol Allen, > any many more. > > > Best wishes, > > Steve > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Christopher Kevill wrote: > > Thanks for the history lesson. You really got in on the " ground > floor " . > Was it called vedic in those days? Hi Chris, No, it was Hindu. The word Vedic was coined much later by Chakrapani Ullal. > > > It seems like many Faganites crossed over at that time. Why do think > this > happened? It's hard to say why this happened--but I don't think it was due to lonely men with slide rules. Many of the brightest and best Faganites attended Phyllis' classes or gave lectures there, including Jim Eshelman, Janice Mackey, Pete Stapleton, Gene Lockhart (who introduced me to sidereal astrology in 1975), Richard Gehman, Bob Page, Charles Keith, Richard Schultz, William Bussey, John Mazurek and many others. Most of these did not go the Vedic route. I think many of us, previous Tropicalists, were looking for a bridge back to house meanings and rulerships, dispositors etc and found it in Hindu. There was a fascination with Hindu and especially with teachers like Chakrapani and others steeped in Hindu tradition and mysticism. Phyllis was quite taken with the idea, perhaps based on her earlier associaton with Charles DeLuce. Most of our teachers had been to India and studied there to some extent. Some, like Drew Lawrence could even read and write Sanskrit. Kenny Richards studied for years in India and then with Gandhi in England. Chakrapani had the biggest impact overall on the class--his natal and predictive skills with techniques none of us had even heard of--cemented our interest in the subject. Approaching the Hindu classics, or even understanding a book by BV Raman, was out of the question for most of us--so we needed teachers to even make a slight entrance into the 'temple' door. The teachers were there, we had to take advantage of it. There was probably a bit of crossover knowledge going on also--most of the Indian teachers had been introduced to Hindu first and had never gone the way of Tropical or Fagan sidereal. Some were not even familiar with the idea of transits of planets to planets, lunar returns, secondaries, progressions etc--so a certain amount of knowledge flowed the other way (although as far as I know, no one in India has ever written a book about all the techniques they learned from the wise western 'pundits'.) Best, Steve Best, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Nice to see some steady conversation on this list for a change! Thanks to Bettina, Steve and Dark*Star. I'm late with e-mails today, had some writing and other things to do. So please excuse a string of posts as I reply to some of the posts all at once. At 07:24 PM 4/25/04 -0700, Dark*Star wrote: > >Therese, > >I believe you came late upon the scene... If you're going back that far, DeLuce, etc., yes! I was talking about the really public movement that began with the visit of Dr. Raman to the U.S. (1992?) and then he was followed by K.N. Rao, who I believe was the person who changed " Hindu " to " Vedic. " Vedic is really a bad term because there was no horoscopic astrology in India in Vedic times. Every so often someone writes a letter in Raman's ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE complaining about the term " Vedic. " I always try to use " Jyotish, " which at least had something to do with astronomy. >Would everyone please sit up and understand that the name was only >changed to Vedic because those looking to line their deep pockets >wanted to disassociate themselves from worshipping cows, drinking >urine and making a first marriage to a tree. That's your precious ACVA, >among others. I think another reason was that they wanted to make the astrology of India sound very old and authentic--like 5000 years old or so. I believe the origin of India's horoscopic astrology is strictly Hellenistic and Arabic, around 300-500 C.E. or therabouts. The lunar mansions go way back, however. >Ptolemy mentions various combination of planets for astrology. Chief >among them...Moon-Mercury. I don't place a whole lot of faith in Ptolemy's practical knowledge of astrology, who was mainly a recorder. But a good recorder, yes! >No and No? I don't believe you suffer from a skinny Saturn, do you? What's a skinny Saturn?? Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 At 09:21 PM 4/25/04 -0700, Steve wrote: >The west coast history of Vedic started many years before ACVA... Steve, thanks to you and Dark*Star for the history lesson! > >It began in the early '80's with the intro of Vedic into Phylis Kneip's >classes >(...) >The charge was $5.00 (for a three hour lecture) and an additional $2.00 >maintainance fee to Phylis for tea and cookies--the classes were held in >her home in Hollywood. >(...) >Those were the days......and BTW many women attended who are still doing >Vedic in the Los Angeles area--Helene Cushman Woodman, Carol Leveque, >Carol Allen, any many more. Yeah, but they're real quiet since most of us haven't heard of any of them. But I'll have to amend what I said. " The visible and active **organization** of Jyotish in the west began in the early 90s. " The internet helped greatly in spreading the word. Also all the books (except for DeLuce, Hoppe and one or two others) didn't rain down upon us until the 90s. Hmmm....No, I guess it started in the mid 80s with James Braha's first book. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Oh, and thanks to Chris for the coversation, too! I hadn't gone through all of about 50 posts in my mailbox. Chris wrote: >> It seems like many Faganites crossed over at that time. Why do think >> this happened? Steve wrote: > >It's hard to say why this happened--but I don't think it was due to >lonely men with slide rules. Many of the brightest and best Faganites >attended Phyllis' classes or gave lectures there, including Jim >Eshelman, Janice Mackey, Pete Stapleton, Gene Lockhart (who introduced >me to sidereal astrology in 1975), Richard Gehman, Bob Page, Charles >Keith, Richard Schultz, William Bussey, John Mazurek and many others. >Most of these did not go the Vedic route. > >I think many of us, previous Tropicalists, were looking for a bridge >back to house meanings and rulerships, dispositors etc and found it in >Hindu (...) This post was very interesting and informative. A good one to print and save. Thanks Steve. But I'm wondering. After the big flurry and high spirits of sidereal publications (in the 70s I believe?) what happened? All seemed to be very quiet until the 90s rivival of Jyotish. And what happened to Hindu astrology in the U.S. after those years when Phyllis had her clases? Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 My two cents also on Moon/Mercury: A good combination in general for intelligence and need not include ability in math--Mars might be added for that. Moon in sidereal Gemini and Virgo especially good for astrology and taking one notch up on the brilliance scale if Mercury in turn is in Cancer--thereby causing an exchange between the two. Bettina, please don't think less of the trine, much more gentle on the nervous system. Even Parashara gave it a 50% and Tajika prashna includes it along with the sextile and semi-sextile. Steve > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Y'right, the trine is Jupiter's asp. In Vedic it's only considered major if J is involved, but it still exists as an asp. even between other planets. I've even had inauspicious things happen when I had exact transiting trines from malefics. For example, in Dec. of 2002 I broke my ankle. At the time Uranus and Saturn were both forming very close (less than one degree) trines to my natal Mars, which rules my 11th hs. (ankles). At the same time transiting Mars was cnj. nat. Mars with an orb of about 5 degrees. Another time I felt unexplainably depressed. Saturn was stat. and in an exact trine to my nat. Moon. .... Bettina Steven Stuckey [shastrakara] Monday, April 26, 2004 4:53 PM Re: Trop to Vedic My two cents also on Moon/Mercury: A good combination in general for intelligence and need not include ability in math--Mars might be added for that. Moon in sidereal Gemini and Virgo especially good for astrology and taking one notch up on the brilliance scale if Mercury in turn is in Cancer--thereby causing an exchange between the two. Bettina, please don't think less of the trine, much more gentle on the nervous system. Even Parashara gave it a 50% and Tajika prashna includes it along with the sextile and semi-sextile. Steve > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Christopher Kevill wrote: > Right. And yet their teachings did not inspire others to follow the > Fagan > route and that is a puzzle. Chris, On the contrary, their teachings did inspire many (I was one)--but this was earlier on--in the '60's, '70's and '80's. To be fair, we need to see how many people Vedic is still inspiring around 2020 and beyond and if indeed the leaders of the organization are still 'with it' as they enter their late '60's and early '70's. Perhaps one finds other priorities...... > > And so Fagan couldn't satisfy that yearning? I frankly don't know a > whole > lot about the Fagan approach. I had hoped to learn something about it > on > this list, alas it seems to have been taken over. Check out this site for more info: http://www.magee.demon.co.uk/astrolog.htm > > > A sort of pied piper theory here. Perhaps if western sidereal had > managed > to produce someone who had the charisma and communicative abilities of > > Chakrapani, then perhaps things would have worked out differently. Or > maybe > it was just the the time for Hindu... There was no scarcity of charisma or communicative ability--and perhaps more Jupiterian and Mercurial energy--- however their collective Saturn's may have been missing in the proper amount of shad bala points--from that they could take some lessons from the Vedic group--ie hierarchy, structure, organization and certification etc, etc, etc..... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Steve, > > No, it was Hindu. The word Vedic was coined much later by Chakrapani > Ullal. Really? That's amazing. I didn't realize it could be traced so definitively and so recently. > > > > > > > It seems like many Faganites crossed over at that time. Why do think > > this > > happened? > > It's hard to say why this happened--but I don't think it was due to > lonely men with slide rules. Many of the brightest and best Faganites > attended Phyllis' classes or gave lectures there, including Jim > Eshelman, Janice Mackey, Pete Stapleton, Gene Lockhart (who introduced > me to sidereal astrology in 1975), Richard Gehman, Bob Page, Charles > Keith, Richard Schultz, William Bussey, John Mazurek and many others. > Most of these did not go the Vedic route. > Right. And yet their teachings did not inspire others to follow the Fagan route and that is a puzzle. > I think many of us, previous Tropicalists, were looking for a bridge > back to house meanings and rulerships, dispositors etc and found it in > Hindu. > And so Fagan couldn't satisfy that yearning? I frankly don't know a whole lot about the Fagan approach. I had hoped to learn something about it on this list, alas it seems to have been taken over. > There was a fascination with Hindu and especially with teachers like > Chakrapani and others steeped in Hindu tradition and mysticism. > Phyllis was quite taken with the idea, perhaps based on her earlier > associaton with Charles DeLuce. > Most of our teachers had been to India and studied there to some extent. > Some, like Drew Lawrence could even read and write Sanskrit. Kenny > Richards studied for years in India and then with Gandhi in England. > Chakrapani had the biggest impact overall on the class--his natal and > predictive skills with techniques none of us had even heard of--cemented > our interest in the subject. > A sort of pied piper theory here. Perhaps if western sidereal had managed to produce someone who had the charisma and communicative abilities of Chakrapani, then perhaps things would have worked out differently. Or maybe it was just the the time for Hindu... thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Steve - " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara Monday, April 26, 2004 5:51 PM Re: Trop to Vedic > > > Christopher Kevill wrote: > > > Right. And yet their teachings did not inspire others to follow the > > Fagan > > > > > A sort of pied piper theory here. Perhaps if western sidereal had > > managed > > to produce someone who had the charisma and communicative abilities of > > > > Chakrapani, then perhaps things would have worked out differently. Or > > maybe > > it was just the the time for Hindu... > > There was no scarcity of charisma or communicative ability--and perhaps > more Jupiterian and Mercurial energy--- however their collective > Saturn's may have been missing in the proper amount of shad bala > points--from that they could take some lessons from the Vedic group--ie > hierarchy, structure, organization and certification etc, etc, etc..... > Or maybe just the ability to publish widely distributed books. This might be due to indifferent Suns (ego) as well. Without Braha's or Houck's books, I never would have been drawn to Hindu in the first place. This is a problem I notice with KP -- a branch of Hindu astrology that has many adherents in India but few in the West mostly because there haven't been any well written or accessible books by westerners. Western sidereal may have flourished amongst followers in the LA area like yourself because you didn't need books -- you had the face to face contacts. Too bad for the rest of us living out here in the Witchita Vortex. Chris > > Steve > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Ptolemy was such a good recorder that Moon-Mercury is found with astrologers that at least 3 astrologers here have offered up their charts in homage...Bettina, Sateesh, Therese. Dark*Star Therese Hamilton wrote: > >Ptolemy mentions various combination of planets for astrology. Chief > >among them...Moon-Mercury. > > I don't place a whole lot of faith in Ptolemy's practical knowledge of > astrology, who was mainly a recorder. But a good recorder, yes! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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