W and Election 2004 (Cynthia)

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At 11:36 AM 7/9/04 -0500, Cynthia wrote:

>W's chart does seem to give him success when you would think he would fail.

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

I don't think most people would choose W's natal chart as a presidential

one. It's one of the mysteries of astrology. However, the navamsa is

extremely strong with all those planets in Leo in the 10th, and of course

Leo is the sign that holds W's 10th lord Mars.

 

>I live in TX and he was a pretty good governor here. The governor has very

>little power and really doesn't work that hard. W. managed to get our

>politicians to work together...something in this state is pretty rare. I

>always felt that he would have been happy in this job and not going further.

 

I believe you are right. I've always felt that the Republican powers that

be chose him as their front person.

 

>He always seemed happy here. I know that folks will say that he caused all

>sorts of problems here in education, but he actually stirred up the big

>teachers unions to call for accountability. Something long overdue.

>Anyway, the point I'm making is as we have talked about before, he didn't

>pursue the presidency out of ego, but something else.

>

>That makes all the difference in a kala sarpa chart and in how well SAturn

>performs even for the average person (my opinion and observation)

 

Thanks for your observations on Kala Sarpa. (For the uninitiated, this

means all the planets are between the two nodes on one side.)

 

>I suspect that if W. is what we need in the US he'll succeed. Now, how

>might the nation act if we did not " need " him? That's a bigger question to

>me.

 

I for one don't think the U.S. needs any more of the present party in

power. I haven't really watched Kerry on T.V. I'll have to start educating

myself.

 

>...I also agree with Rao, the voters will make the difference. I still don't

> " know " who will win, but if you look at the transits in W's chart for the

>inaugurationl you'll see Jupiter returning to his natal Moon Jupiter. Looks

>pretty lucky to me! But if the president will be assasinated, then lucky

>may be that he loses.

 

Cheney's return charts aren't good for election day. The inaugural Moon is

on Edwards' natal Jupiter, and Jupiter is conjunct the M.C. in his

inaugural lunar return. Just two contacts among many in the charts of the

four candidates.

 

It's true, however that on inauguration day Jupiter is right on W's natal

Jupiter-Moon conjunction. At the same time transiting Pluto is only a few

degrees from the SR descendant with Mars conjoining Pluto. I set the

inaugural chart for January 20 at 12:02 p.m. So W is having his Jupiter

return as the new presidential term begins. What will this mean in terms of

who wins the election? W's Saturn-Sun conjunction is so important this

year, and I'm not sure how to interpret it.

 

Some of you siderealists out there...won't someone please progress W's

solar return to the inaugural date and tell us what you see??

 

I simply note the transits to the SR chart myself. Transiting Jupiter on

inauguration day is nowhere near an angle in W's SR chart, but squares SR

Sun-Saturn, likewise not near an angle. The inaugaural Sun/MC falls in W's

SR 8th. W does have an angular Jupiter-Pluto (square from 4 to 7) if his SR

is relocated to Washington. But by the inaugauration date Jupiter has moved

into a middleground position.

 

Thanks for your thoughts, Cynthia.

 

Therese