Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Dear Mr. Reiley; The home page of the group para 2 reads " We are a group of Free Thinkers which considers the Lal Kitab as yet another precious book on Indian Vedic astrology and therefore close scrutiny, analysis, constructive criticism, and even finding faults with the system are not considered a sacrilege. " this is what i meant by unorthodox approach. kulbirbains , " csharpgoras " <pytogoras wrote: > > Dear kulbirbains > > Thanks for throw ligth on me. So could you please let me know what do > you mean that you follow unorthodox approach ? > > Note: Please accept my apologies for my english...! > > Best Regard > Mario Reiley > Venezuela > > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mario Reiley, i agree with Varun ji, Goswami ji's book is > > written in a short cut method. it is useful for reference sake but > > has a little or no learing value for beginners. Answer to ur querry > > regarding association; this group is no less than an association of > > honest lalkitab astrologers who believe in sharing and consider > > themselves as students. We follow unorthodox approach , reasoning is > > preferred over blind faith. rest assured u r in good company, > > welcome to the group. > > kulbir > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Mario Reiley ji, > > > > > > [ 1 ] The Goswami & Vashshtha book will be of no use for you. This > > is > > > a translation of the original Lal Kitab.You will not understand a > > > word of it unless you have read the following and get acquainted > > with > > > the system. > > > Therefore first read the following books, each of them a couple of > > > times. > > > > > > [ a ] Start with Pt. Krishna Ashant’s book.This is the most > > important > > > book to understand the system. Must read this book a couple of > > times. > > > > > > Lal Kitab : Background and exposition > > > By : Pt. Krishna Ashant > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > 72 , Janpath , Ved Mansion > > > New Delhi 110 001 > > > E mail : sagarpub@ > > > > > > [ b ] ‘ Lal Kitab’ > > > > > > By : Prof U C Mahajan > > > Pub : Pustak Mahal > > > 10-B Netaji Subhash Marg , Daryaganj > > > New Delhi �� " 110 002 > > > > > > [ c ] ‘ Lal Kitab �� " sytem of progression and creative > > measure’ > > > by : R S Chillar > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > { as above } > > > > > > [ 2 ] Yes, it deals primarily with Native astrology > > > > > > [ 3 ] Uses both, the palmistry and the horoscope. Mostly horoscope. > > > > > > [ 4 ] I don't know what Mahama dasha is. > > > > > > [ 5 ] I am not aware of any association of Lal Kitab practioners. > > > > > > [ 6 ] The Lal Kitab predictions are largely based on the planetary > > > placements. But scholars of vedic astrology working with Lal Kitab > > > use the gochar, dasha and the divisional charts like navansh also > > > along with the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lal Kitab Group > > > > > > > > I am an astrologer from Venezuela with a 10 year-old experience > > in > > > > Western astrology. > > > > > > > > Some months past ago I found Lal Kitab and buy the book: Lal > > Kitab > > > > (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav Goswami & Pt. Laxmi > > Kant > > > > Vashisth , > > > > which has not still arrived to my hands because it was bought > > from > > > > India and which took in arriving. > > > > > > > > So I would like that you will guide me on the following points: > > > > > > > > 1) Lal Kitab (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav Goswami > > & > > > Pt. > > > > Laxmi Kant Vashisth is a good book to learn LAL Kitab? > > > > > > > > 2) LAL Kitab is only on native astrology. > > > > > > > > 3) The graphics of the LAL Kitab is taken from the palm of the > > hand > > > > and not of astronomical calculations? > > > > > > > > 4) Is the use of Mahama correct Dasa? > > > > > > > > 5) Is there some association of practicactes of Lal Kitab? > > > > > > > > 6) There is in Lal Kitab working predictive like > > > > Gohara,Dasas,Navanshas. > > > > > > > > I apologize for my language and my western ideas that such you > > see > > > > they are strange to you, however I want you to know that I am > > in > > > the > > > > search of this knowledge with my sincere heart for this way to > > be > > > > able to guide me to myself and to help others. > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > csharpgoras@ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Dear kulbirbains I am a occidental trying to understand the beatifull Astrology Hindu In special LAL Kitab tradition, but Lal Kitab System have tools for make predictions on all areas human life ?. Because until I understand Lal Kitab is concerns primary on malefic planet and solutions neather another charts and gochara and this point is hard for understand for me. Is like Lal Kitab was a primitive astrology and Jyotish was more development astrology ( more dinamic). Some peoples say that Lal Kitab is fixed astrology. I give you my apologies by me occidental Ideas. Best Mario Reiley Venezuela , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Mr. Reiley; > > The home page of the group para 2 reads " We are a group > of Free Thinkers which considers the Lal Kitab as yet another > precious book on Indian Vedic astrology and therefore close > scrutiny, analysis, constructive criticism, and even finding faults > with the system are not considered a sacrilege. " this is what i > meant by unorthodox approach. > > kulbirbains > , " csharpgoras " > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > Thanks for throw ligth on me. So could you please let me know what > do > > you mean that you follow unorthodox approach ? > > > > Note: Please accept my apologies for my english...! > > > > Best Regard > > Mario Reiley > > Venezuela > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mario Reiley, i agree with Varun ji, Goswami ji's book is > > > written in a short cut method. it is useful for reference sake > but > > > has a little or no learing value for beginners. Answer to ur > querry > > > regarding association; this group is no less than an association > of > > > honest lalkitab astrologers who believe in sharing and consider > > > themselves as students. We follow unorthodox approach , > reasoning is > > > preferred over blind faith. rest assured u r in good company, > > > welcome to the group. > > > kulbir > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Mario Reiley ji, > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] The Goswami & Vashshtha book will be of no use for you. > This > > > is > > > > a translation of the original Lal Kitab.You will not > understand a > > > > word of it unless you have read the following and get > acquainted > > > with > > > > the system. > > > > Therefore first read the following books, each of them a > couple of > > > > times. > > > > > > > > [ a ] Start with Pt. Krishna Ashant’s book.This is the most > > > important > > > > book to understand the system. Must read this book a couple of > > > times. > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab : Background and exposition > > > > By : Pt. Krishna Ashant > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > 72 , Janpath , Ved Mansion > > > > New Delhi 110 001 > > > > E mail : sagarpub@ > > > > > > > > [ b ] ‘ Lal Kitab’ > > > > > > > > By : Prof U C Mahajan > > > > Pub : Pustak Mahal > > > > 10-B Netaji Subhash Marg , Daryaganj > > > > New Delhi �� " 110 002 > > > > > > > > [ c ] ‘ Lal Kitab �� " sytem of progression and creative > > > measure’ > > > > by : R S Chillar > > > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > { as above } > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Yes, it deals primarily with Native astrology > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Uses both, the palmistry and the horoscope. Mostly > horoscope. > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] I don't know what Mahama dasha is. > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] I am not aware of any association of Lal Kitab > practioners. > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] The Lal Kitab predictions are largely based on the > planetary > > > > placements. But scholars of vedic astrology working with Lal > Kitab > > > > use the gochar, dasha and the divisional charts like navansh > also > > > > along with the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lal Kitab Group > > > > > > > > > > I am an astrologer from Venezuela with a 10 year-old > experience > > > in > > > > > Western astrology. > > > > > > > > > > Some months past ago I found Lal Kitab and buy the book: > Lal > > > Kitab > > > > > (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav Goswami & Pt. > Laxmi > > > Kant > > > > > Vashisth , > > > > > which has not still arrived to my hands because it was > bought > > > from > > > > > India and which took in arriving. > > > > > > > > > > So I would like that you will guide me on the following > points: > > > > > > > > > > 1) Lal Kitab (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav > Goswami > > > & > > > > Pt. > > > > > Laxmi Kant Vashisth is a good book to learn LAL Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > 2) LAL Kitab is only on native astrology. > > > > > > > > > > 3) The graphics of the LAL Kitab is taken from the palm of > the > > > hand > > > > > and not of astronomical calculations? > > > > > > > > > > 4) Is the use of Mahama correct Dasa? > > > > > > > > > > 5) Is there some association of practicactes of Lal Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > 6) There is in Lal Kitab working predictive like > > > > > Gohara,Dasas,Navanshas. > > > > > > > > > > I apologize for my language and my western ideas that such > you > > > see > > > > > they are strange to you, however I want you to know that I > am > > > in > > > > the > > > > > search of this knowledge with my sincere heart for this way > to > > > be > > > > > able to guide me to myself and to help others. > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > > csharpgoras@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Dear Mr. mario, u can say that lalkitab is basic and simple astrology while the branches like those involving navamshas, gochra etc are research articles. understanding lalkitab develops a sound base for getting a grasp on developed research. lalkitab also has a system for movement of planets on annual, monthly, daily, hourly, minut, seconds and even degree level. so it is not correct to term it as fixed astrolgy. kulbir , " csharpgoras " <pytogoras wrote: > > Dear kulbirbains > > I am a occidental trying to understand the beatifull Astrology Hindu > In special LAL Kitab tradition, but Lal Kitab System have tools for > make predictions on all areas human life ?. Because until I understand > Lal Kitab is concerns primary on malefic planet and solutions neather > another charts and gochara and this point is hard for understand for > me. Is like Lal Kitab was a primitive astrology and Jyotish was more > development astrology ( more dinamic). Some peoples say that Lal Kitab > is fixed astrology. > > I give you my apologies by me occidental Ideas. > > Best > Mario Reiley > Venezuela > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Reiley; > > > > The home page of the group para 2 reads " We are a group > > of Free Thinkers which considers the Lal Kitab as yet another > > precious book on Indian Vedic astrology and therefore close > > scrutiny, analysis, constructive criticism, and even finding faults > > with the system are not considered a sacrilege. " this is what i > > meant by unorthodox approach. > > > > kulbirbains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > > > Thanks for throw ligth on me. So could you please let me know what > > do > > > you mean that you follow unorthodox approach ? > > > > > > Note: Please accept my apologies for my english...! > > > > > > Best Regard > > > Mario Reiley > > > Venezuela > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mario Reiley, i agree with Varun ji, Goswami ji's book is > > > > written in a short cut method. it is useful for reference sake > > but > > > > has a little or no learing value for beginners. Answer to ur > > querry > > > > regarding association; this group is no less than an association > > of > > > > honest lalkitab astrologers who believe in sharing and consider > > > > themselves as students. We follow unorthodox approach , > > reasoning is > > > > preferred over blind faith. rest assured u r in good company, > > > > welcome to the group. > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mario Reiley ji, > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] The Goswami & Vashshtha book will be of no use for you. > > This > > > > is > > > > > a translation of the original Lal Kitab.You will not > > understand a > > > > > word of it unless you have read the following and get > > acquainted > > > > with > > > > > the system. > > > > > Therefore first read the following books, each of them a > > couple of > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Start with Pt. Krishna Ashant’s book.This is the most > > > > important > > > > > book to understand the system. Must read this book a couple of > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab : Background and exposition > > > > > By : Pt. Krishna Ashant > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > 72 , Janpath , Ved Mansion > > > > > New Delhi 110 001 > > > > > E mail : sagarpub@ > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] ‘ Lal Kitab’ > > > > > > > > > > By : Prof U C Mahajan > > > > > Pub : Pustak Mahal > > > > > 10-B Netaji Subhash Marg , Daryaganj > > > > > New Delhi �� " 110 002 > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] ‘ Lal Kitab �� " sytem of progression and creative > > > > measure’ > > > > > by : R S Chillar > > > > > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > { as above } > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Yes, it deals primarily with Native astrology > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Uses both, the palmistry and the horoscope. Mostly > > horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] I don't know what Mahama dasha is. > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] I am not aware of any association of Lal Kitab > > practioners. > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] The Lal Kitab predictions are largely based on the > > planetary > > > > > placements. But scholars of vedic astrology working with Lal > > Kitab > > > > > use the gochar, dasha and the divisional charts like navansh > > also > > > > > along with the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lal Kitab Group > > > > > > > > > > > > I am an astrologer from Venezuela with a 10 year-old > > experience > > > > in > > > > > > Western astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some months past ago I found Lal Kitab and buy the book: > > Lal > > > > Kitab > > > > > > (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav Goswami & Pt. > > Laxmi > > > > Kant > > > > > > Vashisth , > > > > > > which has not still arrived to my hands because it was > > bought > > > > from > > > > > > India and which took in arriving. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I would like that you will guide me on the following > > points: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Lal Kitab (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav > > Goswami > > > > & > > > > > Pt. > > > > > > Laxmi Kant Vashisth is a good book to learn LAL Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) LAL Kitab is only on native astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) The graphics of the LAL Kitab is taken from the palm of > > the > > > > hand > > > > > > and not of astronomical calculations? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Is the use of Mahama correct Dasa? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Is there some association of practicactes of Lal Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) There is in Lal Kitab working predictive like > > > > > > Gohara,Dasas,Navanshas. > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize for my language and my western ideas that such > > you > > > > see > > > > > > they are strange to you, however I want you to know that I > > am > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > search of this knowledge with my sincere heart for this way > > to > > > > be > > > > > > able to guide me to myself and to help others. > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > > > csharpgoras@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Dear kulbir In my seek of try understood the Lal Kitab tradition. I am on Internet looking for all information that I can. So how you know there is mixed information on theme. In West Astrology (My Astrology) I see the 12 life areas like Math problems…! namely can determinate if some women to give birth a child but how many ? In which time ? Young, Elder ? or some guy might get the social status very up, again when in that period ? and finally some people could to have opportunities for take long journey and he/she might loss money. Lal Kitab traditions have procedures for all this areas. I want to buy this books what do you think ? Horoscope Reading Made Easy and Self Learning Based on the Famous Lal Kitab by Mahal Pustak And Lal Kitab by V.C. Mahajan Additionally I what you know that my seek is truth for this knowledge. Note: Could you please to keep a conversations via messenger with me in some time for sharp my Ideas. Thanks so much for all yours responses and help me. Best Mario Reiley Venezuela , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Mr. mario, > > u can say that lalkitab is basic and simple astrology > while the branches like those involving navamshas, gochra etc are > research articles. understanding lalkitab develops a sound base for > getting a grasp on developed research. lalkitab also has a system for > movement of planets on annual, monthly, daily, hourly, minut, seconds > and even degree level. so it is not correct to term it as fixed > astrolgy. > > kulbir > > > > , " csharpgoras " > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > I am a occidental trying to understand the beatifull Astrology Hindu > > In special LAL Kitab tradition, but Lal Kitab System have tools for > > make predictions on all areas human life ?. Because until I > understand > > Lal Kitab is concerns primary on malefic planet and solutions > neather > > another charts and gochara and this point is hard for understand for > > me. Is like Lal Kitab was a primitive astrology and Jyotish was > more > > development astrology ( more dinamic). Some peoples say that Lal > Kitab > > is fixed astrology. > > > > I give you my apologies by me occidental Ideas. > > > > Best > > Mario Reiley > > Venezuela > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Reiley; > > > > > > The home page of the group para 2 reads " We are a group > > > of Free Thinkers which considers the Lal Kitab as yet another > > > precious book on Indian Vedic astrology and therefore close > > > scrutiny, analysis, constructive criticism, and even finding > faults > > > with the system are not considered a sacrilege. " this is what i > > > meant by unorthodox approach. > > > > > > kulbirbains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > > > > > Thanks for throw ligth on me. So could you please let me know > what > > > do > > > > you mean that you follow unorthodox approach ? > > > > > > > > Note: Please accept my apologies for my english...! > > > > > > > > Best Regard > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > Venezuela > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mario Reiley, i agree with Varun ji, Goswami ji's book is > > > > > written in a short cut method. it is useful for reference sake > > > but > > > > > has a little or no learing value for beginners. Answer to ur > > > querry > > > > > regarding association; this group is no less than an > association > > > of > > > > > honest lalkitab astrologers who believe in sharing and > consider > > > > > themselves as students. We follow unorthodox approach , > > > reasoning is > > > > > preferred over blind faith. rest assured u r in good company, > > > > > welcome to the group. > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mario Reiley ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] The Goswami & Vashshtha book will be of no use for > you. > > > This > > > > > is > > > > > > a translation of the original Lal Kitab.You will not > > > understand a > > > > > > word of it unless you have read the following and get > > > acquainted > > > > > with > > > > > > the system. > > > > > > Therefore first read the following books, each of them a > > > couple of > > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Start with Pt. Krishna Ashant’s book.This is the > most > > > > > important > > > > > > book to understand the system. Must read this book a couple > of > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab : Background and exposition > > > > > > By : Pt. Krishna Ashant > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > > 72 , Janpath , Ved Mansion > > > > > > New Delhi 110 001 > > > > > > E mail : sagarpub@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] ‘ Lal Kitab’ > > > > > > > > > > > > By : Prof U C Mahajan > > > > > > Pub : Pustak Mahal > > > > > > 10-B Netaji Subhash Marg , Daryaganj > > > > > > New Delhi �� " 110 002 > > > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] ‘ Lal Kitab �� " sytem of progression and > creative > > > > > measure’ > > > > > > by : R S Chillar > > > > > > > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > > { as above } > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Yes, it deals primarily with Native astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Uses both, the palmistry and the horoscope. Mostly > > > horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] I don't know what Mahama dasha is. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] I am not aware of any association of Lal Kitab > > > practioners. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] The Lal Kitab predictions are largely based on the > > > planetary > > > > > > placements. But scholars of vedic astrology working with Lal > > > Kitab > > > > > > use the gochar, dasha and the divisional charts like navansh > > > also > > > > > > along with the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lal Kitab Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am an astrologer from Venezuela with a 10 year-old > > > experience > > > > > in > > > > > > > Western astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some months past ago I found Lal Kitab and buy the book: > > > Lal > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav Goswami & Pt. > > > Laxmi > > > > > Kant > > > > > > > Vashisth , > > > > > > > which has not still arrived to my hands because it was > > > bought > > > > > from > > > > > > > India and which took in arriving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I would like that you will guide me on the following > > > points: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Lal Kitab (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav > > > Goswami > > > > > & > > > > > > Pt. > > > > > > > Laxmi Kant Vashisth is a good book to learn LAL Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) LAL Kitab is only on native astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) The graphics of the LAL Kitab is taken from the palm of > > > the > > > > > hand > > > > > > > and not of astronomical calculations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Is the use of Mahama correct Dasa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Is there some association of practicactes of Lal Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) There is in Lal Kitab working predictive like > > > > > > > Gohara,Dasas,Navanshas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize for my language and my western ideas that such > > > you > > > > > see > > > > > > > they are strange to you, however I want you to know that > I > > > am > > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > search of this knowledge with my sincere heart for this > way > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > able to guide me to myself and to help others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > > > > csharpgoras@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Mr. Railey, are u that sharp with western astrology that u can predict the whole list of events provided by u. first of all be true to urself as to why do u want lalkitab knowledge. buddy i prefer questions on the group board than individual discussions on messanger etc. let our interaction be transparent and others also benefit from it and we also get help from masters. kulbirbains , " csharpgoras " <pytogoras wrote: > > Dear kulbir > > In my seek of try understood the Lal Kitab tradition. I am on Internet > looking for all information that I can. So how you know there is mixed > information on theme. > > In West Astrology (My Astrology) I see the 12 life areas like Math > problems�! namely can determinate if some women to give birth a child > but how many ? In which time ? Young, Elder ? or some guy might get > the social status very up, again when in that period ? and finally > some people could to have opportunities for take long journey and > he/she might loss money. > > Lal Kitab traditions have procedures for all this areas. > > I want to buy this books what do you think ? > > Horoscope Reading Made Easy and Self Learning Based on the Famous Lal > Kitab by Mahal Pustak > And > > Lal Kitab by V.C. Mahajan > > > Additionally I what you know that my seek is truth for this knowledge. > > Note: Could you please to keep a conversations via messenger > with me in some time for sharp my Ideas. > > Thanks so much for all yours responses and help me. > > > Best > Mario Reiley > Venezuela > > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. mario, > > > > u can say that lalkitab is basic and simple astrology > > while the branches like those involving navamshas, gochra etc are > > research articles. understanding lalkitab develops a sound base for > > getting a grasp on developed research. lalkitab also has a system for > > movement of planets on annual, monthly, daily, hourly, minut, seconds > > and even degree level. so it is not correct to term it as fixed > > astrolgy. > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > > > I am a occidental trying to understand the beatifull Astrology Hindu > > > In special LAL Kitab tradition, but Lal Kitab System have tools for > > > make predictions on all areas human life ?. Because until I > > understand > > > Lal Kitab is concerns primary on malefic planet and solutions > > neather > > > another charts and gochara and this point is hard for understand for > > > me. Is like Lal Kitab was a primitive astrology and Jyotish was > > more > > > development astrology ( more dinamic). Some peoples say that Lal > > Kitab > > > is fixed astrology. > > > > > > I give you my apologies by me occidental Ideas. > > > > > > Best > > > Mario Reiley > > > Venezuela > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Reiley; > > > > > > > > The home page of the group para 2 reads " We are a group > > > > of Free Thinkers which considers the Lal Kitab as yet another > > > > precious book on Indian Vedic astrology and therefore close > > > > scrutiny, analysis, constructive criticism, and even finding > > faults > > > > with the system are not considered a sacrilege. " this is what i > > > > meant by unorthodox approach. > > > > > > > > kulbirbains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for throw ligth on me. So could you please let me know > > what > > > > do > > > > > you mean that you follow unorthodox approach ? > > > > > > > > > > Note: Please accept my apologies for my english...! > > > > > > > > > > Best Regard > > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > > Venezuela > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mario Reiley, i agree with Varun ji, Goswami ji's book is > > > > > > written in a short cut method. it is useful for reference sake > > > > but > > > > > > has a little or no learing value for beginners. Answer to ur > > > > querry > > > > > > regarding association; this group is no less than an > > association > > > > of > > > > > > honest lalkitab astrologers who believe in sharing and > > consider > > > > > > themselves as students. We follow unorthodox approach , > > > > reasoning is > > > > > > preferred over blind faith. rest assured u r in good company, > > > > > > welcome to the group. > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mario Reiley ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] The Goswami & Vashshtha book will be of no use for > > you. > > > > This > > > > > > is > > > > > > > a translation of the original Lal Kitab.You will not > > > > understand a > > > > > > > word of it unless you have read the following and get > > > > acquainted > > > > > > with > > > > > > > the system. > > > > > > > Therefore first read the following books, each of them a > > > > couple of > > > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Start with Pt. Krishna Ashant’s book.This is the > > most > > > > > > important > > > > > > > book to understand the system. Must read this book a couple > > of > > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab : Background and exposition > > > > > > > By : Pt. Krishna Ashant > > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > > > 72 , Janpath , Ved Mansion > > > > > > > New Delhi 110 001 > > > > > > > E mail : sagarpub@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] ‘ Lal Kitab’ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By : Prof U C Mahajan > > > > > > > Pub : Pustak Mahal > > > > > > > 10-B Netaji Subhash Marg , Daryaganj > > > > > > > New Delhi �� " 110 002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] ‘ Lal Kitab �� " sytem of progression and > > creative > > > > > > measure’ > > > > > > > by : R S Chillar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > > > { as above } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Yes, it deals primarily with Native astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Uses both, the palmistry and the horoscope. Mostly > > > > horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] I don't know what Mahama dasha is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] I am not aware of any association of Lal Kitab > > > > practioners. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] The Lal Kitab predictions are largely based on the > > > > planetary > > > > > > > placements. But scholars of vedic astrology working with Lal > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > use the gochar, dasha and the divisional charts like navansh > > > > also > > > > > > > along with the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " csharpgoras " > > > > > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lal Kitab Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am an astrologer from Venezuela with a 10 year-old > > > > experience > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Western astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some months past ago I found Lal Kitab and buy the book: > > > > Lal > > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > > (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav Goswami & Pt. > > > > Laxmi > > > > > > Kant > > > > > > > > Vashisth , > > > > > > > > which has not still arrived to my hands because it was > > > > bought > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > India and which took in arriving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I would like that you will guide me on the following > > > > points: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Lal Kitab (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav > > > > Goswami > > > > > > & > > > > > > > Pt. > > > > > > > > Laxmi Kant Vashisth is a good book to learn LAL Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) LAL Kitab is only on native astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) The graphics of the LAL Kitab is taken from the palm of > > > > the > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > > and not of astronomical calculations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Is the use of Mahama correct Dasa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Is there some association of practicactes of Lal Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) There is in Lal Kitab working predictive like > > > > > > > > Gohara,Dasas,Navanshas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize for my language and my western ideas that such > > > > you > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > they are strange to you, however I want you to know that > > I > > > > am > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > search of this knowledge with my sincere heart for this > > way > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > able to guide me to myself and to help others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > > > > > csharpgoras@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Dear kulbirbains Please don't understand my words in wrong way , please. That is really hard for me to have a complete information on Lal Kitab traditions when the proper proponents are fight on groups and papers saying that they have the only knowledge on LalKitab and anybody. Additionally there is a set of method or procedures mixed between Lal Kitab and Indian traditional astrology. Maybe you don't know, but the western astrology is loose in several centuries ago (This is when hay say my Astrology) and for this reason the West Astrology is more psychology that predictive. The Indian traditions is pure (That's reason for me admiration). Lal Kitab, How I am understand represent divine just because not only study the causes. Too give the cure. But is real hard for every person try when don't standards. Finally, I want face to face with you for the only reason of establish a fluid feedback ideas, so please don't reject my imprudence. I know what looking for..! but I don´t know where begin ? With the right foot…! Best Mario Venezuela , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Mr. Railey, > > are u that sharp with western astrology that u can > predict the whole list of events provided by u. first of all be true > to urself as to why do u want lalkitab knowledge. buddy i prefer > questions on the group board than individual discussions on > messanger etc. let our interaction be transparent and others also > benefit from it and we also get help from masters. > > kulbirbains > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > Dear kulbir > > > > In my seek of try understood the Lal Kitab tradition. I am on > Internet > > looking for all information that I can. So how you know there is > mixed > > information on theme. > > > > In West Astrology (My Astrology) I see the 12 life areas like Math > > problems�! namely can determinate if some women to give birth a > child > > but how many ? In which time ? Young, Elder ? or some guy might > get > > the social status very up, again when in that period ? and finally > > some people could to have opportunities for take long journey and > > he/she might loss money. > > > > Lal Kitab traditions have procedures for all this areas. > > > > I want to buy this books what do you think ? > > > > Horoscope Reading Made Easy and Self Learning Based on the Famous > Lal > > Kitab by Mahal Pustak > > And > > > > Lal Kitab by V.C. Mahajan > > > > > > Additionally I what you know that my seek is truth for this > knowledge. > > > > Note: Could you please to keep a conversations via messenger > > with me in some time for sharp my Ideas. > > > > Thanks so much for all yours responses and help me. > > > > > > Best > > Mario Reiley > > Venezuela > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. mario, > > > > > > u can say that lalkitab is basic and simple astrology > > > while the branches like those involving navamshas, gochra etc are > > > research articles. understanding lalkitab develops a sound base > for > > > getting a grasp on developed research. lalkitab also has a > system for > > > movement of planets on annual, monthly, daily, hourly, minut, > seconds > > > and even degree level. so it is not correct to term it as fixed > > > astrolgy. > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > > > > > I am a occidental trying to understand the beatifull Astrology > Hindu > > > > In special LAL Kitab tradition, but Lal Kitab System have > tools for > > > > make predictions on all areas human life ?. Because until I > > > understand > > > > Lal Kitab is concerns primary on malefic planet and solutions > > > neather > > > > another charts and gochara and this point is hard for > understand for > > > > me. Is like Lal Kitab was a primitive astrology and Jyotish > was > > > more > > > > development astrology ( more dinamic). Some peoples say that > Lal > > > Kitab > > > > is fixed astrology. > > > > > > > > I give you my apologies by me occidental Ideas. > > > > > > > > Best > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > Venezuela > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Reiley; > > > > > > > > > > The home page of the group para 2 reads " We are a group > > > > > of Free Thinkers which considers the Lal Kitab as yet another > > > > > precious book on Indian Vedic astrology and therefore close > > > > > scrutiny, analysis, constructive criticism, and even finding > > > faults > > > > > with the system are not considered a sacrilege. " this is > what i > > > > > meant by unorthodox approach. > > > > > > > > > > kulbirbains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " csharpgoras " > > > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear kulbirbains > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for throw ligth on me. So could you please let me > know > > > what > > > > > do > > > > > > you mean that you follow unorthodox approach ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: Please accept my apologies for my english...! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regard > > > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > > > Venezuela > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mario Reiley, i agree with Varun ji, Goswami ji's > book is > > > > > > > written in a short cut method. it is useful for > reference sake > > > > > but > > > > > > > has a little or no learing value for beginners. Answer > to ur > > > > > querry > > > > > > > regarding association; this group is no less than an > > > association > > > > > of > > > > > > > honest lalkitab astrologers who believe in sharing and > > > consider > > > > > > > themselves as students. We follow unorthodox approach , > > > > > reasoning is > > > > > > > preferred over blind faith. rest assured u r in good > company, > > > > > > > welcome to the group. > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mario Reiley ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] The Goswami & Vashshtha book will be of no use > for > > > you. > > > > > This > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a translation of the original Lal Kitab.You will not > > > > > understand a > > > > > > > > word of it unless you have read the following and get > > > > > acquainted > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the system. > > > > > > > > Therefore first read the following books, each of them > a > > > > > couple of > > > > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] Start with Pt. Krishna Ashant’s book.This is > the > > > most > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > book to understand the system. Must read this book a > couple > > > of > > > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab : Background and exposition > > > > > > > > By : Pt. Krishna Ashant > > > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > > > > 72 , Janpath , Ved Mansion > > > > > > > > New Delhi 110 001 > > > > > > > > E mail : sagarpub@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ b ] ‘ Lal Kitab’ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By : Prof U C Mahajan > > > > > > > > Pub : Pustak Mahal > > > > > > > > 10-B Netaji Subhash Marg , Daryaganj > > > > > > > > New Delhi �� " 110 002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ c ] ‘ Lal Kitab �� " sytem of progression and > > > creative > > > > > > > measure’ > > > > > > > > by : R S Chillar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pub : Sagar Publications > > > > > > > > { as above } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Yes, it deals primarily with Native astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Uses both, the palmistry and the horoscope. > Mostly > > > > > horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] I don't know what Mahama dasha is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] I am not aware of any association of Lal Kitab > > > > > practioners. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] The Lal Kitab predictions are largely based on > the > > > > > planetary > > > > > > > > placements. But scholars of vedic astrology working > with Lal > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > > use the gochar, dasha and the divisional charts like > navansh > > > > > also > > > > > > > > along with the Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " csharpgoras " > > > > > > > > <pytogoras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lal Kitab Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am an astrologer from Venezuela with a 10 year-old > > > > > experience > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Western astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some months past ago I found Lal Kitab and buy the > book: > > > > > Lal > > > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > > > (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni Madhav Goswami & > Pt. > > > > > Laxmi > > > > > > > Kant > > > > > > > > > Vashisth , > > > > > > > > > which has not still arrived to my hands because it > was > > > > > bought > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > India and which took in arriving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I would like that you will guide me on the > following > > > > > points: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Lal Kitab (Red Book of Astrology) by Pt. Beni > Madhav > > > > > Goswami > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > Pt. > > > > > > > > > Laxmi Kant Vashisth is a good book to learn LAL > Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) LAL Kitab is only on native astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) The graphics of the LAL Kitab is taken from the > palm of > > > > > the > > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > > > and not of astronomical calculations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Is the use of Mahama correct Dasa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Is there some association of practicactes of Lal > Kitab? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) There is in Lal Kitab working predictive like > > > > > > > > > Gohara,Dasas,Navanshas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize for my language and my western ideas > that such > > > > > you > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > they are strange to you, however I want you to know > that > > > I > > > > > am > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > search of this knowledge with my sincere heart for > this > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > able to guide me to myself and to help others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > > Mario Reiley > > > > > > > > > csharpgoras@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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