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Guruji,

 

Doesn't KP system goes by some particular planets instead of

all 9. Also dasha system like sade sati etc. Where a few get dominance

over other planets.

 

I think it is too early to call this method

redundant. Since no one has been able to decode the formula of

varshphal we can't scrap it only on that ground. Lets not hurry.

 

We have analysis by only 2 scholars. Lets wait for a few more. Still

there are doudts over dhoke ka grah. After this basic grammer rules

have to be checked and applied.

 

Shukla ji straight away jumped upon predictive part. This hurry spoiled the

fruits. Kindly give me some time. We can understand it but a little patience is

required.

 

Regards.

 

Kulbir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 7/26/09, < wrote:

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> Dear members,

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> I had not given any thought to the Faisala kundali till Vipin Shukla ji

> came out with a very detailed analysis. I know he must have put a lot of

> effort into it. Any path breaking research needs such effort.

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> It was the Vipin’s analysis which made me go into the detailed

> study of the Faisala Kundali.

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> I regret saying that I have not found the Faisala kundali as

> representative as a janma kundali or a varsh phal kundali can be. Any

> kundali becomes representative only if all or most of the 9 planets are

> represented in it. At times this does not happen with the Faisala

> kundali.

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> Therefore I have reservations about accepting the Faisala kundali as a

> tool of analysis. A tool is accepted only if it is consistent, and has

> no fluctuations/variations, under all circumstances.

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> What I mean by saying that the faisal kundali not being an acceptable

> tool of analysis, you can verify for yourself.

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> Prepare a Faisala kundali of the 46th year for the following details.

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> Date of birth : February 6 , 1962

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> Time of birth : 6:25 AM

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> Place of birth : Patiala [ 76E24 ; 30N19]

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> Do you notice that the Faisal kundali will have only ONE planet drawn

> from the varsh phal and the janma kundali i.e. Rahu in the 7th. If we

> add Jupiter , the Dhoke ka grah, in the 10th house , then there will be

> just two planets in the entire kundali.

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> Would any astrologer ever consider a kundali consisting of only two

> planets as a representative kundali? I do not think so.

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> Lets take another example :

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> Prepare a Faisala kundali of the 29th year for the following details.

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> Date of birth : September 2 , 1981

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> Time of birth : 3: 20 AM

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> Place of birth : Jalandhar [ 75E34 ; 31N20 ]

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> In this case the faisala kundali will have only TWO planets drawn from

> the varshphal and the Janma kundali i.e. sun in the 3rd and ketu in the

> 7th. If we add Mars as the dhoke ka grah in the 10th house, then there

> will be only three planets in the entire kundali. Just 3 planets out of

> 9 planets is not a good score.

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> Thus there can be umpteen cases where we might get such unrepresentative

> placements of planets.

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> With this unrepresentative nature of the Faisala kundali, I am not

> surprised that Pt. Roopchand ji never took it up for any further

> discussion or application.

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> The first and the last mention of the Faisala kundali was done on the

> last page of the 1942 ed. The Faisala kundali was never mentioned again.

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> I seek the opinion of other Lal Kitab scholars on this issue, if they

> choose to speak.

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> Should we accept the faisala kundali as a tool of analysis, in spite of

> the fact that, at times, it may not be representative of the varsh phal

> and the janma kundali?

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> Bhooshan Priya

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