Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Respected Shukla ji, The 1942 ed is titled “ Ilm samudrik ki Lal Kitab, tarmeem shudaâ€. It declares that all the corrections have been incorporated and it is a corrected version. That was the reason no errata was issued for this book unlike the 1939 edition. If the 1942 edition is an already corrected edition, then the possibility of printing mistake is eliminated. That being so, the mistakes in the Faisala kundali must have already been there in the manuscript itself. It will be unreasonable to expect that Pt. Roopchand ji could not have made mistakes. He was a human being and like every one else he too could have erred. He was a prolific writer and quite possible that a mistake or two could have slipped in. With respect and regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Guruji, this is documentary proof and not mere hearsay. There are only > 2 possible wayouts. 1. Satisfactory logical answer as to why > sun+mercury were deleted in final kundali. Or 2. Accept it as printing > mistake. Regards. Kulbir. > > On 7/27/09, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > > Res Mr. Jain Im also aware about that tables at Page no. 72 & 73 of > > 1942 edition under headings DHOKEY KA 12 SAALAA CHAKKAR & AAM UMRA MAIN > > DHOKEY KA 12 SAALAA CHAKKAR.But I collected whole information from five > > editions & as result found the dhokey ka grah shud be Mars in that > > AKHIRI KUNDALI. Some of so called experts are sticky about " DHOKEY KA > > GRAH " & saying - " A perfectionist like Pundit ji cannot commit such > > mistake. " For those people Im revealing another mistake in same AKHIRI > > KUNDALI of Original Book. According to the rules of making AKHIRI > > KUNDALI at page no 384 of 1942 edition,the SUN & MERCURY aren't > > placed in khana No. 7. As per rule both planets shud have been > > there.Bcoz there has been written a rule in 1942 -EDITION AT PAGE NO. > > 384- PEHLEY GHARON MAIN VARSHFAL KE GRAH AUR BAAD KE GHARON MAIN JANAM > > KUNDALI KE GRAH AUR US KUNDALI KE NO.10 MAIN DHOKEY KA GRAH LIKHENGEY.If > > we follow this rule there is a crystal-clear mistake in original > > lalkitab about KHANA NO. 7 also. Now what will be the opinion of them > > who declare that " A perfectionist like Pundit ji cannot commit such > > mistake. U also can imagine their devotion for research in this > > subject. Main bhi sweekar kartaa hun ki Pandit ji aisi galati kabhi nahi > > kar saktey, lekin jabki mujhe yah maloom hai ki is kitaab ka kaam QATIB > > kar rahey they ,to galati honey ki gunjayish bhi ho jaati hai. " Bus > > yahi baat samajhne ka fark hai. Agar fir bhi koyee aalim AKHIRI > > KUNDALI main khaali khana - 7 ko theek mantaa hai to bara-e-meharaani > > ise kisi tarikey se theek saabit to karo.Agar main galat saabit hotaa > > hun to publically maafi maangne main mujhe koyee aitraaj nahi > > hogaa.Varnaa is galati ki hee tarah Dhokey ka grah bhi to misprint ka > > natijaa ho saktaa hai. Otherwise not accepting mistake is a solo > > soliloquy as - OX GIVES MILK. With regardsPt.LalkitabeeV.ShuklaMb.- > > 9812020001 , " mpj571 " > > <mpj571@> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Vipin Shukla ji, > >> > >> You had pointed out that the dhoke ka grah in faisala kundali has been > > written wrong. Some readers in another group do not find your statement > > as correct. They claim that a meticulous person like Pandit ji could not > > have made any mistake. Therefore the dhoke ka grah venus has been > > written correctly. I think you should set this controversy right for all > > time to come so that we know finally which is the dhoke ka grah in the > > faisala kundali for the 44th year. Thanking you in advance, > >> > >> MP Jain > >> > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Varun ji, Whatever may be the reason of mistake or not incorporating it in 1952 but one thing is sure that it was a very nice attempt to corelate the major concepts of analysis i.e. Natal. Varshphal and dhoke ka grah. Regards. Kulbir. On 7/28/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Shukla ji, > > The 1942 ed is titled “ Ilm samudrik ki Lal Kitab, tarmeem shuda�� . It > declares that all the corrections have been incorporated and it is a > corrected version. That was the reason no errata was issued for this book > unlike the 1939 edition. > > If the 1942 edition is an already corrected edition, then the possibility of > printing mistake is eliminated. That being so, the mistakes in the Faisala > kundali must have already been there in the manuscript itself. > > It will be unreasonable to expect that Pt. Roopchand ji could not have made > mistakes. He was a human being and like every one else he too could have > erred. He was a prolific writer and quite possible that a mistake or two > could have slipped in. > > With respect and regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance > wrote: >> >> Guruji, this is documentary proof and not mere hearsay. There are only >> 2 possible wayouts. 1. Satisfactory logical answer as to why >> sun+mercury were deleted in final kundali. Or 2. Accept it as printing >> mistake. Regards. Kulbir. >> >> On 7/27/09, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: >> > Res Mr. Jain Im also aware about that tables at Page no. 72 & 73 of >> > 1942 edition under headings DHOKEY KA 12 SAALAA CHAKKAR & AAM UMRA MAIN >> > DHOKEY KA 12 SAALAA CHAKKAR.But I collected whole information from five >> > editions & as result found the dhokey ka grah shud be Mars in that >> > AKHIRI KUNDALI. Some of so called experts are sticky about " DHOKEY KA >> > GRAH " & saying - " A perfectionist like Pundit ji cannot commit such >> > mistake. " For those people Im revealing another mistake in same AKHIRI >> > KUNDALI of Original Book. According to the rules of making AKHIRI >> > KUNDALI at page no 384 of 1942 edition,the SUN & MERCURY aren't >> > placed in khana No. 7. As per rule both planets shud have been >> > there.Bcoz there has been written a rule in 1942 -EDITION AT PAGE NO. >> > 384- PEHLEY GHARON MAIN VARSHFAL KE GRAH AUR BAAD KE GHARON MAIN JANAM >> > KUNDALI KE GRAH AUR US KUNDALI KE NO.10 MAIN DHOKEY KA GRAH LIKHENGEY.If >> > we follow this rule there is a crystal-clear mistake in original >> > lalkitab about KHANA NO. 7 also. Now what will be the opinion of them >> > who declare that " A perfectionist like Pundit ji cannot commit such >> > mistake. U also can imagine their devotion for research in this >> > subject. Main bhi sweekar kartaa hun ki Pandit ji aisi galati kabhi nahi >> > kar saktey, lekin jabki mujhe yah maloom hai ki is kitaab ka kaam QATIB >> > kar rahey they ,to galati honey ki gunjayish bhi ho jaati hai. " Bus >> > yahi baat samajhne ka fark hai. Agar fir bhi koyee aalim AKHIRI >> > KUNDALI main khaali khana - 7 ko theek mantaa hai to bara-e-meharaani >> > ise kisi tarikey se theek saabit to karo.Agar main galat saabit hotaa >> > hun to publically maafi maangne main mujhe koyee aitraaj nahi >> > hogaa.Varnaa is galati ki hee tarah Dhokey ka grah bhi to misprint ka >> > natijaa ho saktaa hai. Otherwise not accepting mistake is a solo >> > soliloquy as - OX GIVES MILK. With regardsPt.LalkitabeeV.ShuklaMb.- >> > 9812020001 , " mpj571 " >> > <mpj571@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear Vipin Shukla ji, >> >> >> >> You had pointed out that the dhoke ka grah in faisala kundali has been >> > written wrong. Some readers in another group do not find your statement >> > as correct. They claim that a meticulous person like Pandit ji could not >> > have made any mistake. Therefore the dhoke ka grah venus has been >> > written correctly. I think you should set this controversy right for all >> > time to come so that we know finally which is the dhoke ka grah in the >> > faisala kundali for the 44th year. Thanking you in advance, >> >> >> >> MP Jain >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, Definitely yes, but only for selective cases.It will not apply in each and every case. Have a nice day. Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > Whatever may be the reason of mistake or not incorporating > it in 1952 but one thing is sure that it was a very nice attempt to > corelate the major concepts of analysis i.e. Natal. Varshphal and > dhoke ka grah. > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > On 7/28/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Shukla ji, > > > > The 1942 ed is titled “ Ilm samudrik ki Lal Kitab, tarmeem shuda�� . It > > declares that all the corrections have been incorporated and it is a > > corrected version. That was the reason no errata was issued for this book > > unlike the 1939 edition. > > > > If the 1942 edition is an already corrected edition, then the possibility of > > printing mistake is eliminated. That being so, the mistakes in the Faisala > > kundali must have already been there in the manuscript itself. > > > > It will be unreasonable to expect that Pt. Roopchand ji could not have made > > mistakes. He was a human being and like every one else he too could have > > erred. He was a prolific writer and quite possible that a mistake or two > > could have slipped in. > > > > With respect and regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Guruji, this is documentary proof and not mere hearsay. There are only > >> 2 possible wayouts. 1. Satisfactory logical answer as to why > >> sun+mercury were deleted in final kundali. Or 2. Accept it as printing > >> mistake. Regards. Kulbir. > >> > >> On 7/27/09, lalkitabee <lalkitabee@> wrote: > >> > Res Mr. Jain Im also aware about that tables at Page no. 72 & 73 of > >> > 1942 edition under headings DHOKEY KA 12 SAALAA CHAKKAR & AAM UMRA MAIN > >> > DHOKEY KA 12 SAALAA CHAKKAR.But I collected whole information from five > >> > editions & as result found the dhokey ka grah shud be Mars in that > >> > AKHIRI KUNDALI. Some of so called experts are sticky about " DHOKEY KA > >> > GRAH " & saying - " A perfectionist like Pundit ji cannot commit such > >> > mistake. " For those people Im revealing another mistake in same AKHIRI > >> > KUNDALI of Original Book. According to the rules of making AKHIRI > >> > KUNDALI at page no 384 of 1942 edition,the SUN & MERCURY aren't > >> > placed in khana No. 7. As per rule both planets shud have been > >> > there.Bcoz there has been written a rule in 1942 -EDITION AT PAGE NO. > >> > 384- PEHLEY GHARON MAIN VARSHFAL KE GRAH AUR BAAD KE GHARON MAIN JANAM > >> > KUNDALI KE GRAH AUR US KUNDALI KE NO.10 MAIN DHOKEY KA GRAH LIKHENGEY.If > >> > we follow this rule there is a crystal-clear mistake in original > >> > lalkitab about KHANA NO. 7 also. Now what will be the opinion of them > >> > who declare that " A perfectionist like Pundit ji cannot commit such > >> > mistake. U also can imagine their devotion for research in this > >> > subject. Main bhi sweekar kartaa hun ki Pandit ji aisi galati kabhi nahi > >> > kar saktey, lekin jabki mujhe yah maloom hai ki is kitaab ka kaam QATIB > >> > kar rahey they ,to galati honey ki gunjayish bhi ho jaati hai. " Bus > >> > yahi baat samajhne ka fark hai. Agar fir bhi koyee aalim AKHIRI > >> > KUNDALI main khaali khana - 7 ko theek mantaa hai to bara-e-meharaani > >> > ise kisi tarikey se theek saabit to karo.Agar main galat saabit hotaa > >> > hun to publically maafi maangne main mujhe koyee aitraaj nahi > >> > hogaa.Varnaa is galati ki hee tarah Dhokey ka grah bhi to misprint ka > >> > natijaa ho saktaa hai. Otherwise not accepting mistake is a solo > >> > soliloquy as - OX GIVES MILK. With regardsPt.LalkitabeeV.ShuklaMb.- > >> > 9812020001 , " mpj571 " > >> > <mpj571@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Dear Vipin Shukla ji, > >> >> > >> >> You had pointed out that the dhoke ka grah in faisala kundali has been > >> > written wrong. Some readers in another group do not find your statement > >> > as correct. They claim that a meticulous person like Pandit ji could not > >> > have made any mistake. Therefore the dhoke ka grah venus has been > >> > written correctly. I think you should set this controversy right for all > >> > time to come so that we know finally which is the dhoke ka grah in the > >> > faisala kundali for the 44th year. Thanking you in advance, > >> >> > >> >> MP Jain > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my mobile device > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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