Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 At 10:30 AM 2/8/04 -0000, Matthew wrote: >Before you blow Gary Duncan's statement too far out of proportion, I >think you need to understand the differences he was talking about. >Bradley favored using Geocentric latitude; Duncan favored using >Geographic latitude... Matthew and List, Looking thorough those early sidereal magazines from the 70s, it's obvious that was a special time in the history of sidereal astrology. There was a kind of joyous sense of discovery and community. As reflected in the articles, everyone was open to trying different techniques. It was common to read, " That didn't really work, so I tried this... " The pros disagreed on various points, and as Gary Duncan said in his article, the disagreement was always about issues and principles, and didn't involve personal attacks on those who disagreed with you. What seems to have happened between now and then is that the sidereal system has become rather crystalized and more dogmatic. This invariably happens with any system or organization. The attitude today is more " Well, this works for me. This is what Fagan (or Bradley or Stahl...) said, wo I'm not going to bother to look at anything else. " Needless to say, those early pioneering fathers of sidereal astrology would be the first to decry (strongly disapprove) of such an attitude. A word on mathematics and statistics: Everything now is much more sophisticated than it was in the 50s, 60s and 70s. This would hold for all the scientific areas including statistical procedures. Chances are that techniques and methods used in the 70s have developed greater sophistication as well. With our computers we are now able to test the anyanamsa or any other astrological factor in ways that weren't possible in the 50s to 70s. For the zodiac this includes testing the micro charts such as the novien and navamsa, midpoints, and various mathematical adjustments to the ayanamsa. When Cyril Fagan illustrated a technique such as the novien, he used only one or two example horoscopes. We know now that we could easily look at hundreds of similar charts to zero in on more precise factors. So (as I've said before) we can't rely on research that is 30 or 40 years old and unavailable for study for any one astrological principle or even for an ayanamsa. In a way it's kind of exciting. We have to be the new pioneers and explorers. We (or the future generation) will be the ones who might be able to isolate a precise zodiac. It's also possible that this precise zodiac may shift a little over the centuries due to the proper motion of stars or the evolution of humanity. We can only work with what we have today. Sincerely, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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