Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Hi Juan, Patrice Guinard makes well the case you put forth, that astrology needs not be beholden to other disciplines, and he goes further to suggest that astrology needs to make up its own rules. His reasoning (I'm being simplistic here) is that astrology is a unique science, a " one off, " and in a class by itself. I find it hard to dismante his logic, but he's smarter than me. After all, it may be the case that the best way to judge 'astrologically' the aggressions/defenses of the USA is with a chart that preceeds in time the foundation of the entity known as the USA. It may also be the case that some future chart, such as March 2, 2258, is the best chart. No man is bigger than astrology, and possibilities are endless in a world where we are the music makers. However, I think that the document upon which this chart is based is not the moment of a declaration of a war. That had happened earlier. This document is an offer for the cessation of hostilities, with most of it dedicated to the justification of why arms had to be taken up. This " olive branch " motif is supported, I feel, by the co- rising of Luna and Spica on that date -- which symbolizes a desire for peace and good relations -- and Venus conjunct Regulus, which is a nod to the Monarchy. The Full Moon chart for May 15 is more warlike, and Anti-monarchy, with Mars rising as the luminaries are on the meridian. As for the dismissal of nomological considerations, I don't see how one can do so with a chart that is cast (apparently) for the signing of a legal device. Comparisons to other documents of a similar nature is good, and you make a good point there. However, we can easily trace the intentions of the Continental Congress, and this takes precedence over the comparison. Have you by chance done the transits to the six times when the USA Congress declared war, and when the Presidents signed those resolutions? This would seem to be the best test. Best regards, Ed K , " prec2nod <hylonome@r...> " <hylonome@r...> wrote: > <<No, it's part and parcel of the continuing lack of knowledge of nomology by astrologers. This chart is for a document, a " Declaration, " which is also an olive branch.>> > > I addressed these and other a-priory, non-astrological, prejudiced " nomological " arguments that you and others use against the Boyd chart in the compilation in my site. These arguments show in my opinion a very limited and contrived understanding of Astrology. > > Powerful symbolic moments, acts or documents like the " Declaration to take up arms " or like the moment of death of Lincoln will be so only for those who are sensitive enough to see their symbolical transcendence. Astrologers who depend on external nomological (read non-astrological) legalities will not be able to recognize them. > > ... but that is just an opinion, like yours and others to the contrary. We use different criteria of validity, a different logic for the establishment of the astrological significance of a moment in time. > > Juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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