Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 It is really very difficult for me to understand how Bob can read a particular or specific thing in a chart, without using houses, nor I can understand how he uses a method of lunar progression that gives the same results for all the persons born in a span or period of 6 hours. Well, but like I said before, I have no intenton to promote debates nor to discuss his way of practicing astrology. I rather prefer to make some few remarks on Bush and USA charts. You already know that yesterday USA desires to be backed up by the UNO mission were curtailed since the inspectors do not have found evidence for nuclear weapons. This means that it is increasingly difficult for the States to find support for its attack to Irak, and quite contrary to that, there is a rising opposition in the whole world against any war and the bombing of Irak. In other words, the proposed attack has to be delayed(?) once more and USA is now supported only by 3 governments. Of course Bush has the hands free to do it, but it would be politically unwise to do it. The question is: is he a wise politician? For those who like to overrate jupiter`s role, let`s remember that this is happening despite Jupiter`s presence over Bush`s ascendant . And when it is in the first house, jupiter is aspecting the 7th house, which rules the alliances and public support, so necessary for the politician. So what does astrology has to say about this apparent anomaly? Because, according to the nature of the planet, these things should be enhanced and promoted, opposite to what is happening in the real world to him. But according to Hiindu astrology, in order to evaluate the promises or perspectives of the significates of a house, we have to look not only to the transits to that house but also to analyze the position and aspects of the ruler of the house. And since it is saturn, the ruler of his 7th house, we must take in account that saturn has been under the affliction of pluto and right in these days, Mars is joining the energies of Pluto, determing that his impatience for attacking and for receiving support has been blocked again. I suppose the impatience and frustration Bush must be feeling since things are not going in the way he thought. For USA, I had opted to work with the july 4th at around 4 pm. This is a plausible hour for me but in case you do not like this chart, please use other and let`s avoid sterile debates, specially if none of us can`t back up with with documents the hypothetical hours we had chosen. Well, this chart has scorpio ascendant and it happens that the 7th house is still visited by saturn, a planet not very propitious for increasing your friends. You all know that in mundane astrology, the 7th house has been always associated with international relations, alliances and wars. And right now mars is going to the oposition of saturn in the axis I-VII, which could lead to suppose it could be the moment for launching the attack against Irak. I want to believe that the effect will be the opposite, that saturn forces will be greater and consequently it will be delayed. But when saturn turns direct,in few weeks, it will pass over the moon and simultaneously square the neptune in the 11th house, not very confotable positions. The presence of saturn in the 8th house has been concomitant historically with recessions, if my memory does not betray me. On another day I will go back to the signals for recession. Alfonso Osorio Send Flowers for Valentine's Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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