RE: Fahrenheit 9/11-Election 2004

[Guest guest]

HI Theresa

I'm biased here because I really wanted Edwards to be the Dem. nominee, I

don't know that I can really read the chart <grins>

 

Do we have a true time for Kerry? I know he said dawn, I just wonder how he

can appear so Saturnine with SAturn in the 8th in GE and Mars ruling the

1st, aspecting the 1st and the Sun on the 1st.

 

When I just look at the 7th house it makes perfect sense: More than 1

marriage, Moon in Taurus, he married a wealthy woman; Mars retro in the 7th

conjoined Uranus, he doesn't want details of his divorce public <who would?>

 

AND he really get help from his partner. I've said all year that regardless

of what he statistics show, whom he chooses as a running mate will make the

difference for this candidate because of that 7th. Still, I'm struggling

with all that angularity (not including SAturn) and his demeanor. I will

say that maybe it is Jyeshta on the ASC and Sun, it is pretty cautious.

 

Both Kerry and W. have Uranus strong in their return charts for 2004,

assuming that these are as powerful as y'all say, that should indicate a big

change for both. Teresa heinze-Kerry's chart shows success for her spouse

in January.

 

I'll have to wait and see how W. does after Saturn pulls off his Moon, he

has amazing resiliance to these heavy transits.

 

Did you know that Kerry was the 1st of the Dem contenders to have a SAturn

transit? Just as SAturn pulled away from his Mercury (ruler of the 8th and

other people's $$$) He put $6,000,000 of " private " funds into his campaign

and pulled ahead of the competition who were at that time having heavy

SAturn transits themselves. If history repeats itself in this campaign,

he'll pull ahead of W this month. BUT in Sep. I expect a big name in

AlQaeda to fall and give W. the advantage.

 

For my vote, I want to know that my president is going to finish what was

started in Iraq and allow the investigation into the UN corruption to move

forward. Kerry still has not shown me that he is strong enough to do this.

Kerry may be too weak for the job right now. I don't think I'll know until

Sept. For now, if W is still on the ticket in Nov I believe he will win.

The SAturn to Moon transit may indicate that he will lose someone

close....perhaps some of his advisers.

 

Sorry for rambling....BTW I'm watching that Cancer ingress chart. I have

heard folks use them in both zodiacs, just never trusted them. I'm ready to

learn, but hope your prediction of a terrorist attack is wrong.

 

c

 

 

Therese Hamilton [eastwest]

Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:48 AM

Fahrenheit 9/11-Election 2004

 

 

Hi everyone,

 

If you haven't yet seen Fahrenheit 9/11, go see it! It's an A++ movie,

very

clever, truthful, pathetic, and the early shots brought back all the

excitement and heartbreak of Election 2000.

 

Now that we have the timed charts of the four candidates (two prez and two

vice-prez), from the return charts, it looks like it will be

Kerry-Edwards.

Does anyone want to disagree?

 

Some of the return charts aren't so clear, so I want to check out a few of

Kerry's solar returns for past years. There seems to be general

astrological discomfort that his birth time may not be correct.

 

I know it's traditonal for sidereal astrologers to use the locale charts,

but I'm depending more on the birth place charts. There IS some

contradiction between the two sets of charts. I don't believe that

they

work seamlessly together. Cheney was born in Nebraska, and Kerry was born

in Colorado. The birth places of GW and Edwards are fairly close to D.C.,

so the locale charts aren't that different. I don't generally use

residence

charts, so I don't set up charts for Texas for GW, where he spends a fair

amount of time.

 

Aside from the angular planets in the (birthplace) charts, almost all the

charts have transiting Uranus/Pluto prominent. This will shake up the

status quo.

 

Therese

 

 

 

" How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " -----

 

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