no unified zodiac

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In a message dated 9/6/2003 1:09:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, zqhelisabeth

<zqh_elisabeth writes:

 

> 4. So it seems to me that when Tropical

> astrologers, whose " zodiac " is centered on the

> Sun's path and the seasons, say the " Moon is in

> Aries " , they can only be saying something

> meaningless -- unless they call a specific stage

> in the Moon's cylce " Aries " . They might also do

> the same with the other planets. But what we

> would end up with by doing this is a separate

> " zodiac " for each planet, since they each follow

> a different cycle/path.

 

Yah. That's exactly what i do by approximation.

Further help for this is in the Interface material

at the Matrix website.

 

The tropical zodiac is about our local situation

pressured by seasons and that division of labor and

responsibility created by solar necessities.

 

The stellar zodiacs (Stahl-Allan is only one of them)

work very differently but are less social, and its

the social where pressures on clients tend to be

most felt.

 

Some very competent and unique people do order their

lives according to the true unequal constellatons,

either at their own latitudes or at the equator.

Each of these layers of operation has advantages which

differ from birthchart to birthchart.

 

Other than using a device such as the 22 system sorter

i've never managed to computerize, its nearly impossible

to consider all the layers coherently. And even with

the additional information much escapes us -- a result

of the overload.

 

We begin to see that competent professional astrologers

are selectors of information. Those at the leading edge

of PROFESSIONAL practice are beginning to use good

software to produce quantities of information in a few

minutes most of which is discarded. Not everything true

is relevant all the time.

 

For core personal use, sidereal and tropical are probably

first choices, unless you are someone whose chart

strongly resists these levels.

 

Jane A.

http://www.startiming.net

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, StarTiming@a... wrote:

 

>

> The tropical zodiac is about our local situation

> pressured by seasons and that division of labor and

> responsibility created by solar necessities.

>

 

I have no idea what you are talking about? Speak English woman or

I'll have every javalina knocking on your door. Tropical is a process

based on a fiducial of seasonal changes. It is a cyclical pattern

based on 1 realationship between the Sun and Earth. It is an

overworked and rapidly losing reality. Is a Gemini(Tropical)

described the same way as it was a thousand years ago?

 

 

> The stellar zodiacs (Stahl-Allan is only one of them)

> work very differently but are less social, and its

> the social where pressures on clients tend to be

> most felt.

>

 

Sidereal is no less or more social yet more accurate a tool than

Tropical for predictive purposes.

 

 

> Some very competent and unique people do order their

> lives according to the true unequal constellatons,

> either at their own latitudes or at the equator.

 

 

I suppose thats true.... The unfortunate thing for tropicalists is

their refusual or inability to understand/grasp sidereal.

 

>

> For core personal use, sidereal and tropical are probably

> first choices, unless you are someone whose chart

> strongly resists these levels.

>

> Jane A.

> http://www.startiming.net

 

The common ground between tropicalists and siderealists are the

planets and their relationships... The communication regarding cycles

and aspects creates a greater appreciation of what each has to offer.

 

Fiducials aside...

 

Do Solar winds carry with them a " sign " ? Does Sun Spot Activity

create a psychological cause and effect here on earth?

 

The answer to both those questions are in the next session of

jeapordy...

 

Juan