Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Chris, Scott's data: Oct 24, 1972 @ 9:36 AM PDT in San Diego, Ca. Here is the bio from Astrodatabank: Biography: " American accused of killing wife and son. His wife, Laci Peterson, who was eight months pregnant at the time, vanished between December 23 and Christmas Eve morning, 2002. Scott had reportedly been having an affair with another woman who herself went public on January 24, 2003. Scott had also taken out a life insurance policy on his wife prior to her disappearance. Police however could not arrest him without hard evidence. Four months after her disappearance, Laci's body and that of her unborn son washed up on the shore at Richmond, California. Scott was arrested and charged with murder of his wife and child the day the remains were identified, on April 18, 2003. Scott pleaded not guilty and his parents stand by him. Laci and Scott met in 1995 while both were undergraduates at California Polytechnic State University in San Luis Obispo, and they married on August 9, 1997, moving back to Modesto in 1999. Shortly afterward, they bought their own home. They had been trying to have a baby and she finally became pregnant in the spring of 2002. Scott worked as a fertilizer salesman. Scott is the youngest of seven children. The six older children are from his parents' earlier marriages, and Scott is the only child born to his parents, Jackie and Lee, after they married each other in 1971. Good looking and charming, he graduated from high school in 1990, a golf star who was twice named MVP. Reports about his personality are mixed, with some people describing him as a loner, capable of lying, and others calling him loving and caring " . Rodden Rating: AA Source: BC/BR in hand Source notes: Arlene DeAngelus sent copy of birth cert to PT Categories: Best, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Steve, Thanks for the data. I see that the jury has found him guilty so hearty congratulations are in order. Way to go! And very close to your time window as well. I'm travelling at the moment so I'm not fully attuned to what is happening astrologically or legally. Perhaps you or other members can fill in the blanks. When is the sentencing phase? Chris - " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara Friday, November 12, 2004 1:15 PM Re: Scott Peterson data > > > > Chris, > > > Scott's data: Oct 24, 1972 @ 9:36 AM PDT in San Diego, Ca. > > Here is the bio from Astrodatabank: > > Biography: " American accused of killing wife and son. His wife, Laci > Peterson, who was eight months pregnant at the time, vanished between > December 23 and Christmas Eve morning, 2002. Scott had reportedly been > having an affair with another woman who herself went public on January > 24, 2003. Scott had also taken out a life insurance policy on his wife > prior to her disappearance. Police however could not arrest him without > hard evidence. Four months after her disappearance, Laci's body and > that of her unborn son washed up on the shore at Richmond, California. > Scott was arrested and charged with murder of his wife and child the day > the remains were identified, on April 18, 2003. Scott pleaded not > guilty and his parents stand by him. > > Laci and Scott met in 1995 while both were undergraduates at California > Polytechnic State University in San Luis Obispo, and they married on > August 9, 1997, moving back to Modesto in 1999. Shortly afterward, they > bought their own home. They had been trying to have a baby and she > finally became pregnant in the spring of 2002. Scott worked as a > fertilizer salesman. > > Scott is the youngest of seven children. The six older children are > from his parents' earlier marriages, and Scott is the only child born to > his parents, Jackie and Lee, after they married each other in 1971. > Good looking and charming, he graduated from high school in 1990, a golf > star who was twice named MVP. Reports about his personality are > mixed, with some people describing him as a loner, capable of lying, and > others calling him loving and caring " . > > Rodden Rating: AA > Source: BC/BR in hand Source notes: Arlene DeAngelus sent copy of birth > cert to PT > > Categories: > > > Best, > > Steve > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Christopher Kevill wrote: > Steve, > > Thanks for the data. > > I see that the jury has found him guilty so hearty congratulations are > in > order. Way to go! And very close to your time window as well. > > I'm travelling at the moment so I'm not fully attuned to what is > happening > astrologically or legally. Perhaps you or other members can fill in > the > blanks. > > When is the sentencing phase? Hi Chris, Thanks! and happy journeying,,,,, I think the jurors will be back in court on the 22nd where the sentencing phase of the trial will be conducted. They will take a vote probably just after Thanksgiving on whether Scott will receive the death penalty or get life in prison. My original thought was the death penalty, after looking at the charts, and that is why I predicted the jury would vote for murder in the first degree. However, even if the death penalty is handed out, he may spend most or all of his life in prison on death row. Best, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Steve, I'm still working through the details of your correct Scott Peterson prediction. I'm kind of surprised that no one has bothered to discuss it further. Maybe prediction is going out of style in these parts. Given all the political speculation on the astrology lists these days (most with minimal astrological content), I think this prediction stands head and shoulders above it all. Not only did you get the outcome correct (not a huge deal, admittedly, although it's important to note that it was a minority view amongst media commentators, plus the jury uncertainty made a quick decision unlikely), but you were only off by one day! I agree that his natal Sun debilitated in the 12th certainly points to imprisonment (esp with the eclipse and the Ketu contact there now) but I think the extra nail in that coffin is that the 12th ruler Venus is closely aspected by Rahu. This adds an extra layer of affliction to the Sun and that 12th house situation. And clearly, the forward Saturn square to Venus isn't helping 12th house matters either. Just to add my little declinational take on things, tr Saturn 20S36 was applying to parallel natal 12th house Mercury 20S27 (depression and heavy thoughts ie.leaden prison bars and concrete walls), tr Mars 11S21 was parallel natal Sun 11S56. The latitudes also reveal the sudden shift in his fortunes: tr Mars 00S36 parallel natal Uranus 00S36'04 " . And depending on when the verdict came down on the 12th, this Mars may have been exact to within a few minutes of orb, which would be equivalent to a few hours of clock time. Chris - " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:46 PM Re: Re: Scott Peterson data > > > > Christopher Kevill wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > Thanks for the data. > > > > I see that the jury has found him guilty so hearty congratulations are > > in > > order. Way to go! And very close to your time window as well. > > > > I'm travelling at the moment so I'm not fully attuned to what is > > happening > > astrologically or legally. Perhaps you or other members can fill in > > the > > blanks. > > > > When is the sentencing phase? > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks! and happy journeying,,,,, > > I think the jurors will be back in court on the 22nd where the > sentencing phase of the trial will be conducted. They will take a vote > probably just after Thanksgiving on whether Scott will receive the death > penalty or get life in prison. > > My original thought was the death penalty, after looking at the charts, > and that is why I predicted the jury would vote for murder in the first > degree. However, even if the death penalty is handed out, he may spend > most or all of his life in prison on death row. > > > Best, > > Steve > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Christopher Kevill wrote: > > I'm still working through the details of your correct Scott Peterson > prediction. I'm kind of surprised that no one has bothered to discuss > it > further. Maybe prediction is going out of style in these parts. Thanks Chris, I think the timing of putting out a prediction is a factor also. In this case the Peterson verdict came at the same time people were focused on election voting fraud. The death of author Aldous Huxley for instance, went largely unnoticed, since he died on the same day as John F Kennedy--Nov 22, 1963 > Given all > the political speculation on the astrology lists these days (most with > > minimal astrological content), I think this prediction stands head and > > shoulders above it all. Not only did you get the outcome correct > (not a > huge deal, admittedly, although it's important to note that it was a > minority view amongst media commentators, plus the jury uncertainty > made a > quick decision unlikely), but you were only off by one day! I tried not to be affected by the press and pundits. Having two jurors leave and be replaced in the first few days of deliberation looked like a certain hung jury. The jury of course could have come back with 1 of four decisions: hung, acquittal, 2nd degree, or 1st degree. Special circumstances came into play as well, making Scott eligible for the death sentence. > > > I agree that his natal Sun debilitated in the 12th certainly points to > > imprisonment (esp with the eclipse and the Ketu contact there now) but > I > think the extra nail in that coffin is that the 12th ruler Venus is > closely > aspected by Rahu. I agree about Venus here as the dispositor of the Sun, getting the aspect of the nodes and the square of natal Saturn is a very negative factor and reflects on the condition of the 12th house, as well as the natal Sun. In addition, the mutual reception between the 10th and 12 lords (Venus and Sun) also leads one in the direction that the occupation or status is fallen somehow or that time will be spent in isolation or obscurity. Psychologically, the Sun occupying a Venus sign, while exchanging with Venus also adds to his narcissism. The natal Sun also sits on the 12th equal cusp, at the midpoint of Pluto and the Asc. When the once in a lifetime transit of Mars and Ketu came to the Sun, it was also sitting on the 12th cusp and activating this midpoint (and thereby also semi-sextile the Asc), as well as close to exact by quincunx to the natal Moon. Other transits of the day (the 12th) that brought the jury to it's conclusion were the tSun/Moon to the nMercury, tMercury to the MC and Venus to the natal Mars/Uranus. When Scott entered the court, just before the jury delivered it's verdict (at 1:05 PM PST), he was smiling with expectation. I think this was the expectation of freedom, brought about by this Venus to Mars/Uranus. The results of all transits have to be realized, even if there are conflicting testimonies. For instance, one may enjoy a wonderful evening out with friends, only to have the night end in tragedy. The Mars/Ketu to natal Sun to me equates with the death sentence. Mars/Ketu was sitting on the Asc at the time of the attack on 9/11. That the jury delivered the verdict at this time, implies that they will carry forward with a recommendation for death. At the very least, whether he gets the death sentence or not, his life is over as he knows it. He looks like a candidate for suicide in my opinion, with ascendant lord Mars conjoined to Uranus and square the nodes, with Ketu occupying the whole sign 8th house. Saturn will activate this combination next March when it exactly stations on Ketu. > > > Just to add my little declinational take on things, tr Saturn 20S36 > was > applying to parallel natal 12th house Mercury 20S27 (depression and > heavy > thoughts ie.leaden prison bars and concrete walls), tr Mars 11S21 was > parallel natal Sun 11S56. The latitudes also reveal the sudden shift > in his > fortunes: tr Mars 00S36 parallel natal Uranus 00S36'04 " . And > depending on > when the verdict came down on the 12th, this Mars may have been exact > to > within a few minutes of orb, which would be equivalent to a few hours > of > clock time. Thanks for bringing in these extra factors, which I am usually prove to overlook. Best, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Predictions aren't my specialty, but I have noticed that Jupiter will be going R across SP's Virgo planets and then, of course, direct again, and then, over his Libra planets, and I think (have to check, not sure) R-ing over them too, and then his asc, so there will probably be appeals and that sort of thing. That Mark Garagos is such a so-and-so! Who knows what the final outcome will be. Different subject: At the risk of sounding macabre, I like to do people's SR's for the years of death. Usually they're pretty daunting (Laci's for example), but I did Chris Reeve's and it wasn't so bad. In fact ... SR Jupiter and transitting Jupiter were on his Sun. Mars was also on Sun, with a close quincunx from Uranus ... that could point to the cessation of physical life, but the J probably shows us that it was very pleasant and welcome. He can move around all he wants to now. I suppose it has to do with what leads up to the death, whether it's pain and suffering, whether it's expected or not, whether it's welcome or not. I suspect Laci had found out what was going on and experienced the trauma of knowing her husband was taking her life ... also of knowing, before that, that her marriage wasn't even a little bit like what she had idealized it as being. .... Bettina Christopher Kevill [christopher.kevill] Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:21 PM Re: Re: Scott Peterson data Steve, I'm still working through the details of your correct Scott Peterson prediction. I'm kind of surprised that no one has bothered to discuss it further. Maybe prediction is going out of style in these parts. Given all the political speculation on the astrology lists these days (most with minimal astrological content), I think this prediction stands head and shoulders above it all. Not only did you get the outcome correct (not a huge deal, admittedly, although it's important to note that it was a minority view amongst media commentators, plus the jury uncertainty made a quick decision unlikely), but you were only off by one day! I agree that his natal Sun debilitated in the 12th certainly points to imprisonment (esp with the eclipse and the Ketu contact there now) but I think the extra nail in that coffin is that the 12th ruler Venus is closely aspected by Rahu. This adds an extra layer of affliction to the Sun and that 12th house situation. And clearly, the forward Saturn square to Venus isn't helping 12th house matters either. Just to add my little declinational take on things, tr Saturn 20S36 was applying to parallel natal 12th house Mercury 20S27 (depression and heavy thoughts ie.leaden prison bars and concrete walls), tr Mars 11S21 was parallel natal Sun 11S56. The latitudes also reveal the sudden shift in his fortunes: tr Mars 00S36 parallel natal Uranus 00S36'04 " . And depending on when the verdict came down on the 12th, this Mars may have been exact to within a few minutes of orb, which would be equivalent to a few hours of clock time. Chris - " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:46 PM Re: Re: Scott Peterson data > > > > Christopher Kevill wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > Thanks for the data. > > > > I see that the jury has found him guilty so hearty congratulations are > > in > > order. Way to go! And very close to your time window as well. > > > > I'm travelling at the moment so I'm not fully attuned to what is > > happening > > astrologically or legally. Perhaps you or other members can fill in > > the > > blanks. > > > > When is the sentencing phase? > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks! and happy journeying,,,,, > > I think the jurors will be back in court on the 22nd where the > sentencing phase of the trial will be conducted. They will take a vote > probably just after Thanksgiving on whether Scott will receive the death > penalty or get life in prison. > > My original thought was the death penalty, after looking at the charts, > and that is why I predicted the jury would vote for murder in the first > degree. However, even if the death penalty is handed out, he may spend > most or all of his life in prison on death row. > > > Best, > > Steve > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ah! Now isn't that half the sense of life...knowing when not to die? Dark*Star _________________________________ Steven Stuckey wrote: > The death of author Aldous Huxley for instance, went largely unnoticed, > since he died on the same day as John F Kennedy--Nov 22, 1963 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Steve, - " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:15 PM Re: Re: Scott Peterson data > > > > Christopher Kevill wrote: > > > > > I'm still working through the details of your correct Scott Peterson > > prediction. I'm kind of surprised that no one has bothered to discuss > > it > > further. Maybe prediction is going out of style in these parts. > > Thanks Chris, > > I think the timing of putting out a prediction is a factor also. In this > case the Peterson verdict came at the same time people were focused on > election voting fraud. > The death of author Aldous Huxley for instance, went largely unnoticed, > since he died on the same day as John F Kennedy--Nov 22, 1963 Yeah, that's a good example of that. I wonder what configuration showed that in Huxley's chart? What are the factors for obscure death or 'sudden loss of social profile at death'? Karmically, I wonder if this was an indictment of his pro-drug books. Like the many who followed in his footsteps along the path of pharmaceutical enlightenment, he too was forgotten at that moment when the soul leaves the body. > > > > Given all > > the political speculation on the astrology lists these days (most with > > > > minimal astrological content), I think this prediction stands head and > > > > shoulders above it all. Not only did you get the outcome correct > > (not a > > huge deal, admittedly, although it's important to note that it was a > > minority view amongst media commentators, plus the jury uncertainty > > made a > > quick decision unlikely), but you were only off by one day! > > I tried not to be affected by the press and pundits. Having two jurors > leave and be replaced in the first few days of deliberation looked like > a certain hung jury. > The jury of course could have come back with 1 of four decisions: hung, > acquittal, 2nd degree, or 1st degree. Special circumstances came into > play as well, making Scott eligible for the death sentence. > > > > > > > > I agree that his natal Sun debilitated in the 12th certainly points to > > > > imprisonment (esp with the eclipse and the Ketu contact there now) but > > I > > think the extra nail in that coffin is that the 12th ruler Venus is > > closely > > aspected by Rahu. > > I agree about Venus here as the dispositor of the Sun, getting the > aspect of the nodes and the square of natal Saturn is a very negative > factor and reflects on the condition of the 12th house, as well as the > natal Sun. > In addition, the mutual reception between the 10th and 12 lords (Venus > and Sun) also leads one in the direction that the occupation or status > is fallen somehow or that time will be spent in isolation or obscurity. > Psychologically, the Sun occupying a Venus sign, while exchanging with > Venus also adds to his narcissism. > The natal Sun also sits on the 12th equal cusp, at the midpoint of Pluto > and the Asc. > When the once in a lifetime transit of Mars and Ketu came to the Sun, > it was also sitting on the 12th cusp and activating this midpoint (and > thereby also semi-sextile the Asc), as well as close to exact by > quincunx to the natal Moon. I agree that this natal configuration was the key. I hadn't noticed the Sun falling on the midpoint of Asc and Pluto -- definitely not a plus in this sort of situation. But having a deb Sun on one's 12th house cusp can't be a bowl of cherries either. Having Ketu Mars both come up on that point sealed his fate. > Other transits of the day (the 12th) that brought the jury to it's > conclusion were the tSun/Moon to the nMercury, tMercury to the MC and > Venus to the natal Mars/Uranus. > When Scott entered the court, just before the jury delivered it's > verdict (at 1:05 PM PST), he was smiling with expectation. I think this > was the expectation of freedom, brought about by this Venus to > Mars/Uranus. The results of all transits have to be realized, even if > there are conflicting testimonies. > For instance, one may enjoy a wonderful evening out with friends, only > to have the night end in tragedy. > > The Mars/Ketu to natal Sun to me equates with the death sentence. > Mars/Ketu was sitting on the Asc at the time of the attack on 9/11. That > the jury delivered the verdict at this time, implies that they will > carry forward with a recommendation for death. > At the very least, whether he gets the death sentence or not, his life > is over as he knows it. > He looks like a candidate for suicide in my opinion, with ascendant lord > Mars conjoined to Uranus and square the nodes, with Ketu occupying the > whole sign 8th house. Saturn will activate this combination next March > when it exactly stations on Ketu. > > > > > > > Just to add my little declinational take on things, tr Saturn 20S36 > > was > > applying to parallel natal 12th house Mercury 20S27 (depression and > > heavy > > thoughts ie.leaden prison bars and concrete walls), tr Mars 11S21 was > > parallel natal Sun 11S56. The latitudes also reveal the sudden shift > > in his > > fortunes: tr Mars 00S36 parallel natal Uranus 00S36'04 " . And > > depending on > > when the verdict came down on the 12th, this Mars may have been exact > > to > > within a few minutes of orb, which would be equivalent to a few hours > > of > > clock time. > > Thanks for bringing in these extra factors, which I am usually prove to > overlook. I don't think they were crucial but it's interesting to see how all these supporting factors pitch in to define a situation further. What's neat about Peterson's chart is the double duty tr Mars was pulling. Tr Mars conjoined natal Sun at the same time it paralleled his Uranus by latitude (Mars was only off precisely parallelling Uranus by two minutes or orb). This was a unique combination of Mars' transit this time around. By contrast, the last time tr Mars conjoined his natal Sun in Dec 2002, there was not corresponding parallel to Uranus. This may be one reason why some transits have more " bite " than others: they have corresponding parallel hits. Chris > > > Best, > > Steve > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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