Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Oh, O.K., Bert, sorry for my last post. I replied to your notice before scrolling down to your explanaton. Yes, you have an interesting concept here. How did you determine this particular crescent Moon phase since you mentioned several that can be selected? An interesting question: New Moon or visible Crescent Phase? Therese At 10:30 AM 11/13/04 -0800, you wrote: > > > I have been experimenting with the Crescent Moon (Best Observation) >using Dr. Monzur Ahmet's program Moon Calculator 6.0. I have posted the >results for November over Washington DC. There is an automatic notice to >inform you where. (Mandane charts) > I'm not sure, but I think that there may be something to theses >sorts of charts. The Priests of Ancient Israel used to use this sort of >chart as a prognosticator. It is not for nothing that both the Jewish >and the Islamic months began with the first sight of the crescent Moon >at or near Sundown. The program I used is set to the ancient Babylon >criteria for observation. There are several such that can be selected. > The most interesting thing about this chart is the paran of Neptune >on the MC and Mercury setting. I think that and the fact that it is set >for Washington DC speak for itself. > >Sidereally, >Bert Fannin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Therese Hamilton wrote: >Oh, O.K., Bert, sorry for my last post. I replied to your notice before >scrolling down to your explanation. Yes, you have an interesting concept >here. How did you determine this particular crescent Moon phase since you >mentioned several that can be selected? > >An interesting question: New Moon or visible Crescent Phase? >_______________ Therese: > Its ok. Understandable mistake. We are not mind readers and we all need to be sure to label the charts. What I selected was the program's criteria for observation. I chose the ancient Babylonian, because it was they who first observed and made use of the crescent Moon. The first appearance of the crescent depends on the Solar depression below the western Horizon as well as the elongation of the Moon/Sun. That was what the Babylonian based their calculations on. They calculated when the weather was bad. Mostly they went outside and looked up. More of us Siderealists, including myself should emulate our distant forefathers. :-) Bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hmmmm I wonder if some of the astronomy (sky) programs would be able to tell when the Moon's crescent first becomes visible? T. At 12:40 PM 11/13/04 -0800, Bert wrote: > What I selected was the program's criteria for observation. I chose >the ancient Babylonian, because it was they who first observed and made >use of the crescent Moon. The first appearance of the crescent depends >on the Solar depression below the western Horizon as well as the >elongation of the Moon/Sun. That was what the Babylonian based their >calculations on. They calculated when the weather was bad. Mostly they >went outside and looked up. More of us Siderealists, including myself >should emulate our distant forefathers. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Therese Hamilton wrote: >Hmmmm I wonder if some of the astronomy (sky) programs would be able to >tell when the Moon's crescent first becomes visible? > >T. > > > So far the Moon Cal 6.0 is the only one that I have found. Bert --\ ---------------------- >At 12:40 PM 11/13/04 -0800, Bert wrote: > > > >> What I selected was the program's criteria for observation. I chose >>the ancient Babylonian, because it was they who first observed and made >>use of the crescent Moon. The first appearance of the crescent depends >>on the Solar depression below the western Horizon as well as the >>elongation of the Moon/Sun. That was what the Babylonian based their >>calculations on. They calculated when the weather was bad. Mostly they >>went outside and looked up. More of us Siderealists, including myself >>should emulate our distant forefathers. :-) >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 At 03:37 PM 11/13/04 -0800, Bert wrote: > >So far the Moon Cal 6.0 is the only one that I have found. Bert, This looks like a terrific program with lots of documentation. I haven't tried to run it yet because my computer told me I needed more memory (other programs running). It downloaded in less than a minute on my computer. Here's an interesting article on crescent moons someone on the SkyMap list mentioned: http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/moon/article_1173_1.asp http://skyandtelescope.com/printable/observing/objects/moon/article_1176.asp Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Therese Hamilton wrote: >At 03:37 PM 11/13/04 -0800, Bert wrote: > >>So far the Moon Cal 6.0 is the only one that I have found. > > >Bert, > >This looks like a terrific program with lots of documentation. I haven't >tried to run it yet because my computer told me I needed more memory (other >programs running). It downloaded in less than a minute on my computer. > >Here's an interesting article on crescent moons someone on the SkyMap list >mentioned: > >http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/moon/article_1173_1.asp > >http://skyandtelescope.com/printable/observing/objects/moon/article_1176.asp >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\ +++++ >Therese: > Thanks for the links to the crescent Moon article. That was most interesting and informative. As for the program, it should run ok. It is a simple dos program. Bert > > > > > >. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 At 08:45 PM 11/13/04 -0800, Bert wrote: > > Thanks for the links to the crescent Moon article. That was most >interesting and informative. As for the program, it should run ok. It is >a simple dos program. Bert, I'm sure it will run fine. I just happened to have some heavy duty programs running tonight. My web program is old and gobbles lots of memory. Same with my word processing program. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Hi Therese, Thanks for the link. They attribute the earliest naked eye crescent observation of 15hr32mn to May 1990. But I thought I once read that the record was held by two maiden sisters in England from early in the last century at less than 15hrs. Dark*Star ________________________________ Therese Hamilton wrote: > Here's an interesting article on crescent moons someone on the SkyMap list > mentioned: > > http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/moon/article_1173_1.asp > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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