Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 jivio wrote Wednesday, January 12, 2005 Jaun: progressed moon huh? I agree with your astute observation but to read you suggest progressions made me laugh.... FYI.. The Progressed Moon in opposition to natal and progressed Mars occurs in Oct/05 when the transiting Sun is square to the natal(inaguration) Sun.... Expect a victory of sorts at that time... If you start with the opposition on the progressed date, and work from there to the Tx Right Ascension of the Apparent Sun, you will see that it does indeed bring the oppositions to maturation on the stated dates. Its the Progressed moon to natal and progressed Pluto that has the fireworks in Mar/06... yeow... Progressed Saturn will be rising and transiting Mars will conjunct the progressed Moon as it is in opposition with Pluto... Transiting Saturn will be moving back and forth in opposition with the natal and progressed Sun in 2005 & 2006. I think Dubya will be responsible for faliure in Iraq... That is a distinct possibility. I do not think that the administration will be as much a winner as it was the last time around. I also think that there is a possibility of domestic violence. I remember watching the National Guard at Kent State Ohio. Deep Doo Doo, I think was the term I used. We are in for it. The people have no reason for gratitude because we will have failed to win their " hearts and minds " . In this age of technology and very smart people how could such a poor effort of diplomacy have taken place.... Do you wonder why he(Dubya) failed as a businessman? Because he is a complete incompetent. Without others pulling his strings, he would simple be a puppet who resides at the bottom of the puppetries's trunk. The pullout from Iraq will take place and the US will be seen to have been nothing but an occupying force. We probably will leave the Iraqi's vulnerable and periled with civil war.I think that it is worse then that. We can not leave or we lose what little creditability we retain. On the other hand we can not stay, because of the cost in both live and monetary resources. What will happen is this will precipitate a domestic crises, most likely when the progressed Moon reaches the opposition to the progressed Pluto of the Shrub II chart. Remember, there is also the Washington Inaugural chart in play. This is the chart for the office of President of the United States. You should take a very close look at the transit to that chart. We will learn some of the same lessons that were learned in Vietnam. Unfortunately it seems we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes because some " leaders " fail to understand history. Agreed, we are not going to win this one. According to George Friedman (Founder and chairman of Strategic Forecasting Services), in his book America's Secret War, the original reason for the invasion of Iraq was to intimidate the neighboring nations such as Saudi Arabia into more active cooperation in Bush's fight against Al Qaeda. Mission drift and the incompetence of those around Bush, doomed that effort to being bogged down. Under the chart for second time around, there is no way that Dubya is going to come out a winner. Looking at the 11:53 am chart for inaguration sends up the red flag that Dubya's future is a bleak one... Careful what you wish for! In this, I could not agree more. Dubya's future is very bleak in deed. The problem is, so is that of the nation, for the remainder of the time that Bush is in office. Ironically, we had better hope and pray that nothing untoward happens to Shrub. Otherwise the power falls to the VP. That is not a comforting thought, having the power in Dick's hands. That is a Knight's Fork check. Sidereally, Wednesday, January 12, 2005 Jaun: progressed moon huh? I agree with your astute observation but to read you suggest progressions made me laugh.... FYI.. The Progressed Moon in opposition to natal and progressed Mars occurs in Oct/05 when the transiting Sun is square to the natal(inaguration) Sun.... Expect a victory of sorts at that time... If you start with the opposition on the progressed date, and work from there to the Tx Right Ascension of the Apparent Sun, you will see that it does indeed bring the oppositions to maturation on the stated dates. Its the Progressed moon to natal and progressed Pluto that has the fireworks in Mar/06... yeow... Progressed Saturn will be rising and transiting Mars will conjunct the progressed Moon as it is in opposition with Pluto... Transiting Saturn will be moving back and forth in opposition with the natal and progressed Sun in 2005 & 2006. I think Dubya will be responsible for faliure in Iraq... That is a distinct possibility. I do not think that the administration will be as much a winner as it was the last time around. I also think that there is a possibility of domestic violence. I remember watching the National Guard at Kent State Ohio. Deep Doo Doo, I think was the term I used. We are in for it. The people have no reason for gratitude because we will have failed to win their " hearts and minds " . In this age of technology and very smart people how could such a poor effort of diplomacy have taken place.... Do you wonder why he(Dubya) failed as a businessman? Because he is a complete incompetent. Without others pulling his strings, he would simple be a puppet who resides at the bottom of the puppetries's trunk. The pullout from Iraq will take place and the US will be seen to have been nothing but an occupying force. We probably will leave the Iraqi's vulnerable and periled with civil war. I think that it is worse then that. We can not leave or we lose what little creditability we retain. On the other hand we can not stay, because of the cost in both live and monetary resources. What will happen is this will precipitate a domestic crises, most likely when the progressed Moon reaches the opposition to the progressed Pluto of the Shrub II chart. Remember, there is also the Washington Inaugural chart in play. This is the chart for the office of President of the United States. You should take a very close look at the transit to that chart. We will learn some of the same lessons that were learned in Vietnam. Unfortunately it seems we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes because some " leaders " fail to understand history. Agreed, we are not going to win this one. According to George Friedman (Founder and chairman of Strategic Forecasting Services), in his book America's Secret War, the original reason for the invasion of Iraq was to intimidate the neighboring nations such as Saudi Arabia into more active cooperation in Bush's fight against Al Qaeda. Mission drift and the incompetence of those around Bush, doomed that effort to being bogged down. Under the chart for second time around, there is no way that Dubya is going to come out a winner. Looking at the 11:53 am chart for inaguration sends up the red flag that Dubya's future is a bleak one... Careful what you wish for! In this, I could not agree more. Dubya's future is very bleak in deed. The problem is, so is that of the nation, for the remainder of the time that Bush is in office. Ironically, we had better hope and pray that nothing untoward happens to Shrub. Otherwise the power falls to the VP. That is not a comforting thought, having the power in Dick's hands. That is a Knight's Fork check. Sidereally, Bert W. Fannin LTAstrology LTD www.ltastrology.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 , " Bert Fannin " <bwfannin@e...> wrote: > jivio wrote > > > > Wednesday, January 12, 2005 > > Jaun: > > progressed moon huh? I agree with your astute observation but to read > > you suggest progressions made me laugh.... FYI.. The Progressed Moon > > in opposition to natal and progressed Mars occurs in Oct/05 when the > > transiting Sun is square to the natal(inaguration) Sun.... > > Expect a victory of sorts at that time... > > If you start with the opposition on the progressed date, and work from there to the Tx Right Ascension of the Apparent Sun, you will see that it does indeed bring the oppositions to maturation on the stated dates. I know that... The idea of you bringing up progressions made me chuckle... That was was never an element of your sidereal toolbox I remember you having much faith in.... My memory is skewed in other ways so if I'm mistaken I stand corrected.. jivio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.