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Hi Therese & Group

 

Apropos your last posting on EXIT POLL results. Here below is more of the story

of the Bush DECEPTION. As I indicated in November 2004 the relevant event date

of the U.S. elections was not November 2; but, in keeping with the legal

requirements of the U.S. constitutional republic, the December 13, 2004

electoral college vote. Between 11:49 am and 12:13 pm on December 13th the Sun

was exactly conjunct Pluto @ 27 " 14' Scorpio. Suggesting what did eventuate:

Bush's highly successful deception, the ballot box theft of the U.S. Presidency.

Also, In keeping with the astro-numerological DOUBLE-13 of that date: ie, Day

#13; Date #13 (12+13+2004=3+4+6= " 13 " )

 

 

Statistical analysis shows US election was fixedProminent

Statisticians Refute 'Explanation' of 2004 U.S. Exit Poll Discrepancies in New

Edison/ Mitofsky Report and Urge Investigation of U.S.

Presidential Election Results

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/1/emw203331.htm

 

 

 

President Bush won November's election by 2.5% yet exit polls showed Kerry

leading by 3%. Which was correct?

 

 

 

(PRWEB) January 31, 2005 -- " There are statistical indications that a

systematic, nationwide shift of 5.5% of the vote may have occurred, and that

we'll never get to the bottom of this, unless we gather the data we need for

mathematical analysis and open, robust scientific debate. " , says Bruce O'Dell,

USCountVotes' Vice President.

 

 

 

The study, ¡°Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report¡±, was

co-authored by a diverse group of academicians specializing in statistics and

mathematics affiliated with University of Notre Dame, University of

Pennsylvania, University of Utah, Cornell University, University of Wisconsin,

Southern Methodist University, Case Western Reserve University and Temple

University. Their study does not support claims made by Edison Media Research

and Mitofsky International that exit poll errors were to blame for the

unprecedented 5.5% discrepancy between exit polls and official 2004 election

results.

 

 

 

According to analysis by the group of senior statisticians, the new data just

released by the exit-pollsters shows that the possibility that the overall vote

count was substantially corrupted must be taken seriously. ¡°Now we have

statistical evidence that these reports were the tip of a national iceberg. The

hypothesis that the discrepancy between the exit polls and election results is

due to errors in the official election tally is a coherent theory that must be

explored,¡± said statistician Josh Mitteldorf.

 

 

 

Their paper titled " Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report "

notes that the Edison/Mitofsky report offers no evidence to support their

conclusion that Kerry voters ¡°participated in the exit polls at a higher rate

than Bush voters¡±. In fact, the data provided in the Edison/Mitofsky report

suggests that the opposite may have been true: Bush strongholds had slightly

higher response rates than Kerry strongholds.

 

 

 

The statisticians' study is available online at:

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/USCountVotes_Re_Mitofsky-Edison.pdf

 

 

 

The statisticians go on to note that precincts with hand-counted paper ballots

showed no statistical discrepancy between the exit polls and the official

results, but for other voting technologies, the overall discrepancy was far

larger than the polls¡¯ margin of error. The pollsters at Edison/Mitofsky agreed

that their 2004 exit polls, for whatever reason, had the poorest accuracy in at

least twenty years.

 

 

 

USCountVotes, a nonprofit, non-partisan Utah corporation was founded in December

2004. Its mission is to create and analyze a database containing precinct-level

election results for the entire United States; to do a thorough mathematical

analysis of the 2004 election results; and to fully investigate the 2004

Presidential election results. USCountVotes actively seeks volunteers and

accepts donations to help make this unprecedented civic project a reality ¨C

visit www.uscountvotes.org for further information.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We don't need these people :: George Bush's sidereal solar return showed this in

itself.

It isn't as if fraud falsified astrology. Astrology shows result and how

obtained. Astrology = all.

 

Dark*Star

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John T W B wrote:

 

> Hi Therese & Group

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I can't remember if the Democrats were as troubled by electoral

inconsistencies in 1960 when the Daley machine rigged the Illinois vote

for JFK?

 

regards,

Chris

 

--- John T W B <jtwbjakarta wrote:

 

>

> Hi Therese & Group

>

> Apropos your last posting on EXIT POLL results. Here below is more of

> the story of the Bush DECEPTION. As I indicated in November 2004 the

> relevant event date of the U.S. elections was not November 2; but, in

> keeping with the legal requirements of the U.S. constitutional republic,

> the December 13, 2004 electoral college vote. Between 11:49 am and 12:13

> pm on December 13th the Sun was exactly conjunct Pluto @ 27 " 14' Scorpio.

> Suggesting what did eventuate: Bush's highly successful deception, the

> ballot box theft of the U.S. Presidency. Also, In keeping with the

> astro-numerological DOUBLE-13 of that date: ie, Day #13; Date #13

> (12+13+2004=3+4+6= " 13 " )

>

>

> Statistical analysis shows US election was fixedProminent

> Statisticians Refute 'Explanation' of 2004 U.S. Exit Poll Discrepancies

> in New Edison/ Mitofsky Report and Urge Investigation

> of U.S. Presidential Election Results

> http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/1/emw203331.htm

>

>

>

> President Bush won November's election by 2.5% yet exit polls showed

> Kerry leading by 3%. Which was correct?

>

>

>

> (PRWEB) January 31, 2005 -- " There are statistical indications that a

> systematic, nationwide shift of 5.5% of the vote may have occurred, and

> that we'll never get to the bottom of this, unless we gather the data we

> need for mathematical analysis and open, robust scientific debate. " ,

> says Bruce O'Dell, USCountVotes' Vice President.

>

>

>

> The study, ¡°Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report¡±,

> was co-authored by a diverse group of academicians specializing in

> statistics and mathematics affiliated with University of Notre Dame,

> University of Pennsylvania, University of Utah, Cornell University,

> University of Wisconsin, Southern Methodist University, Case Western

> Reserve University and Temple University. Their study does not support

> claims made by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International that

> exit poll errors were to blame for the unprecedented 5.5% discrepancy

> between exit polls and official 2004 election results.

>

>

>

> According to analysis by the group of senior statisticians, the new data

> just released by the exit-pollsters shows that the possibility that the

> overall vote count was substantially corrupted must be taken seriously.

> ¡°Now we have statistical evidence that these reports were the tip of a

> national iceberg. The hypothesis that the discrepancy between the exit

> polls and election results is due to errors in the official election

> tally is a coherent theory that must be explored,¡± said statistician

> Josh Mitteldorf.

>

>

>

> Their paper titled " Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004

> Report " notes that the Edison/Mitofsky report offers no evidence to

> support their conclusion that Kerry voters ¡°participated in the exit

> polls at a higher rate than Bush voters¡±. In fact, the data provided in

> the Edison/Mitofsky report suggests that the opposite may have been

> true: Bush strongholds had slightly higher response rates than Kerry

> strongholds.

>

>

>

> The statisticians' study is available online at:

>

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/USCountVotes_Re_Mitofsky-Edison.pdf

>

>

>

> The statisticians go on to note that precincts with hand-counted paper

> ballots showed no statistical discrepancy between the exit polls and the

> official results, but for other voting technologies, the overall

> discrepancy was far larger than the polls¡¯ margin of error. The

> pollsters at Edison/Mitofsky agreed that their 2004 exit polls, for

> whatever reason, had the poorest accuracy in at least twenty years.

>

>

>

> USCountVotes, a nonprofit, non-partisan Utah corporation was founded in

> December 2004. Its mission is to create and analyze a database

> containing precinct-level election results for the entire United States;

> to do a thorough mathematical analysis of the 2004 election results; and

> to fully investigate the 2004 Presidential election results.

> USCountVotes actively seeks volunteers and accepts donations to help

> make this unprecedented civic project a reality ¨C visit

> www.uscountvotes.org for further information.

>

>

>

 

>

> Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

>

>

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That was in Chicago, and I've read that it would have made no difference in

the result if Chicago had gone to the Repubs. There was no electronic

voting then, just stuffing the ballot box as election 'helpers' went from

one polling place to another.

 

Therese

 

At 08:49 AM 2/3/05 -0800, you wrote:

>

>I can't remember if the Democrats were as troubled by electoral

>inconsistencies in 1960 when the Daley machine rigged the Illinois vote

>for JFK?

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As the old adage goes, " if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

 

JFK won Illinois by 9000 votes. He won Daley's Chicago by 450,000.

 

After the election, the Republicans launched several judicial recounts and

investigations (in Illinois and in other close states like LBJ's Texas

which was known for notoriously crooked elections), but nothing

significant was found. That doesn't necessarily mean illinois was won fair

and square, just that no judge was willing or able to overturn the

results. A bit like this time maybe -- their are studies and critics out

there, but so far nothing real has come of it.

 

Chris

 

 

 

--- Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote:

 

> That was in Chicago, and I've read that it would have made no difference

> in

> the result if Chicago had gone to the Repubs. There was no electronic

> voting then, just stuffing the ballot box as election 'helpers' went

> from

> one polling place to another.

>

> Therese

>

> At 08:49 AM 2/3/05 -0800, you wrote:

> >

> >I can't remember if the Democrats were as troubled by electoral

> >inconsistencies in 1960 when the Daley machine rigged the Illinois vote

> >for JFK?

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm currently with Chris on this matter of the election.

 

What in the charts tells us that the election was rigged?

 

Who wanted to vote for Kerry when: He was asked at the Grand Canyon

whether the US should have gone into Iraq knowing that were no

Weapons of " Mass Destruction " and his reply was yes.....

 

I sure as hell didn't... but lets deal with charts.... we might learn

something... Please explain what you mean about the contents of his

PSSR... and actually what you wrote went over my head... like zip...

 

Go figure... I agree with Chris... The people spoke.. all less than

60% of registered voters.

 

Jivio

 

 

, Dark Star <pansophia@e...>

wrote:

>

> We don't need these people :: George Bush's sidereal solar return

showed this in itself.

> It isn't as if fraud falsified astrology. Astrology shows result

and how obtained. Astrology = all.

>

> Dark*Star

> _________________________________

>

> John T W B wrote:

>

> > Hi Therese & Group

> >

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Sounds like the Bush coup was karma returned from the JFK 'election.'

 

Therese

 

At 12:43 PM 2/3/05 -0800, Chris wrote:

>

>As the old adage goes, " if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

>

>JFK won Illinois by 9000 votes. He won Daley's Chicago by 450,000.

>

>After the election, the Republicans launched several judicial recounts and

>investigations (in Illinois and in other close states like LBJ's Texas

>which was known for notoriously crooked elections), but nothing

>significant was found. That doesn't necessarily mean illinois was won fair

>and square, just that no judge was willing or able to overturn the

>results...

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Actually I always thought the final shot from the grassy knoll was

karmically induced from the strings Joe Kennedy pulled back in '60.

 

 

--- Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote:

 

> Sounds like the Bush coup was karma returned from the JFK 'election.'

>

> Therese

>

> At 12:43 PM 2/3/05 -0800, Chris wrote:

> >

> >As the old adage goes, " if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

> >

> >JFK won Illinois by 9000 votes. He won Daley's Chicago by 450,000.

> >

> >After the election, the Republicans launched several judicial recounts

> and

> >investigations (in Illinois and in other close states like LBJ's Texas

> >which was known for notoriously crooked elections), but nothing

> >significant was found. That doesn't necessarily mean illinois was won

> fair

> >and square, just that no judge was willing or able to overturn the

> >results...

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ah...power and politics!!

 

At 04:14 PM 2/3/05 -0800, Chris wrote:

>

>Actually I always thought the final shot from the grassy knoll was

>karmically induced from the strings Joe Kennedy pulled back in '60.

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Jivio,

 

--- jivio <jivio wrote:

 

>

>

> I'm currently with Chris on this matter of the election.

>

> What in the charts tells us that the election was rigged?

 

I've yet to see a systematic and hence persuasive analysis of this

election being rigged. One would think there were enough previous

examples in history to compile a workable database to show the

astrological signature for it.

 

Rather than starting with the assumption that this one was rigged and

dredging up all sorts of portentous Plutonian hits, go back and find some

cases of verifiably fraudulent elections and see what they have in common.

The recent Ukrainian election would be a great data point in this regard

since it is now recognized by just about everyone as fraudulent. The 1986

election in the Philippines that sparked the People Power Revolution was

widely known to be faked.

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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