Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 To All List Members, Greetings. As a requirement for an accredited college program in which I am enrolled, I am committed to doing a serious astrological research thesis on Alzheimer's Disease. I would very much appreciate if members will share the birth data of anyone you know who is afflicted with the illness...I need PLACE, NAME and TIME of birth and if possible, the date of the first onset of symptoms or diagnosis. I do not need other personal information. I welcome any other information about Alzheimer's Disease that members will kindly share. Thanks, Juliana Swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 At 11:27 PM 6/29/05 -0000, Juliana wrote: >To All List Members, Greetings. > >As a requirement for an accredited college program in which I am >enrolled, I am committed to doing a serious astrological research >thesis on Alzheimer's Disease. I would very much appreciate if members >will share the birth data of anyone you know who is afflicted with the >illness...I need PLACE, NAME and TIME of birth and if possible, the >date of the first onset of symptoms or diagnosis. I do not need other >personal information. > >I welcome any other information about Alzheimer's Disease that members >will kindly share. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Juliana, There are probably a number of Alzheimer's people in the Rodden AstroDatabank. I'll try to find time to check. There is an excellent first-hand experience book on living with an Alzhiemer's patient: LOVE NEVER SLEEPS by Mary Summer Rain. My mother died of Alzheimers, but I have no birth time for her. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Dear Therese, Thanks very much but I already have the Rodden databank...but I need more...I want to study at least 100 charts. I have also accumulated some charts from just studying famous people with the illness who are not listed in the Rodden data bank, and I have been writing to Alzheimer's support groups. It is shocking to learn how many are being diagnosed very early these days. I am sorry your mother had to suffer Alzheimer's. Thanks for the book recommendation. Best regards, Juliana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 At 08:23 PM 7/2/05 -0000, Juliana wrote: > >Thanks very much but I already have the Rodden databank...but I need >more...I want to study at least 100 charts. I have also accumulated >some charts from just studying famous people with the illness who are >not listed in the Rodden data bank, and I have been writing to >Alzheimer's support groups. It is shocking to learn how many are being >diagnosed very early these days. Hi Juliana, Yes, Alzheimers seems to be epidemic now. Both my husband's parents developed the disease, but they were in their 80s as was my mother. The early onset cases are puzzling and shocking. Are you using the sidereal zodiac in your study? Or both zodiacs? When your study is finished, I hope you'll give us a summary here. I can't think of any way of timing the onset of Alzheimers except with the Jyotish Dasa system. I suppose the slow transits might play a part. Sometimes the onset is so slow and drawn out that timing can be a problem. I've wondered if there are side effects of the medications older people take that we aren't aware of. Sincerely, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Dear Therese, For natal charts, I only use the Sidereal zodiac, usually the Lahiri Ayanamsha. OK I will share my research if I can get enough charts to study. Yes, everything can be timed with the Vimshottari Dasa and transits in conjunction with it. Alzheimer's is a great mystery. Thanks, Juliana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Dear Therese, For natal charts, I only use the Sidereal zodiac, usually the Lahiri Ayanamsha. OK I will share my research if I can get enough charts to study. Yes, everything can be timed with the Vimshottari Dasa and transits in conjunction with it. Alzheimer's is a great mystery. Thanks, Juliana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 A far greater mystery is Vimshottari Dasa. Male Alzheimer's April 9, 1938 1:30 pm EST Philadelphia, Pa. ....bc, himself...now dead, no details Three Alzheimer's heartfully understood are better than 100 'scientifically' taken apart to catalogue their elements only to end up with no meaningful conclusions. Even 500 aren't enough for that routine. ________________________________ Juliana Swanson wrote: > Alzheimer's is a great mystery. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Hi, We might start out with the good doctor himself: Alois Alzheimer June 14, 1864 4 am LMT Markbreit Germany ....as published There is a protocol for reversing alzheimer's at: garynull.com Dark*Star ________________________________ Juliana Swanson wrote: > To All List Members, Greetings. > > As a requirement for an accredited college program in which I am > enrolled, I am committed to doing a serious astrological research > thesis on Alzheimer's Disease. I would very much appreciate if members > will share the birth data of anyone you know who is afflicted with the > illness...I need PLACE, NAME and TIME of birth and if possible, the > date of the first onset of symptoms or diagnosis. I do not need other > personal information. > > I welcome any other information about Alzheimer's Disease that members > will kindly share. > > Thanks, > Juliana Swanson > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Le Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:00 PM [GMT-4=EDT], <pansophia écrivit: > We might start out with the good doctor himself: > > Alois Alzheimer > June 14, 1864 > 4 am LMT > Markbreit > Germany > ...as published Hello Dark Star, Do you have longitude and latitude, and whether if Markbreit was in the Old East or West Germany (although the distinction does not exists anymore)? Thank you!... -- Regards, François Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Thanks very much for the data. You " dark star " certainly do not know me, so why would you insinuate so inexorably that my analysis won't be heartfelt or that my conclusions will be devoid of meaning? No matter how many charts I choose to study, my intention is to bring light to a subject that remains mysterious to many. Again, thank you for sharing your data. I shall pass on the rest. , Dark Star <pansophia@e...> wrote: > > A far greater mystery is Vimshottari Dasa. > > Male Alzheimer's > April 9, 1938 > 1:30 pm EST > Philadelphia, Pa. > ...bc, himself...now dead, no details > > Three Alzheimer's heartfully understood are better than 100 > 'scientifically' taken apart > to catalogue their elements only to end up with no meaningful conclusions. > Even 500 aren't enough for that routine. > ________________________________ > > Juliana Swanson wrote: > > > Alzheimer's is a great mystery. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Again, I very much appreciate your sharing the data. This one I already have from the Rodden databank. There are also Ayurvedic herbal protocols for reversing Alzheimer's though I have not explored their success rates. Thank you. , Dark Star <pansophia@e...> wrote: > > Hi, > > We might start out with the good doctor himself: > > Alois Alzheimer > June 14, 1864 > 4 am LMT > Markbreit > Germany > ...as published > > There is a protocol for reversing alzheimer's at: > garynull.com > > Dark*Star > ________________________________ > > Juliana Swanson wrote: > > > To All List Members, Greetings. > > > > As a requirement for an accredited college program in which I am > > enrolled, I am committed to doing a serious astrological research > > thesis on Alzheimer's Disease. I would very much appreciate if members > > will share the birth data of anyone you know who is afflicted with the > > illness...I need PLACE, NAME and TIME of birth and if possible, the > > date of the first onset of symptoms or diagnosis. I do not need other > > personal information. > > > > I welcome any other information about Alzheimer's Disease that members > > will kindly share. > > > > Thanks, > > Juliana Swanson > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > > > Post message: > > Subscribe: - > > Un: - > > List owner: -owner > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > / > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Juliana, Of course you would know Alois Alzheimer; I only put his data out for all those who never heard of him...and as a clue to investigating Alzheimer's. You are new to the list and would not know of my insistence in searching for the key to any disability in the very first chart we find it (for me, Alzheimer's in the Philadelphia chart I posted) rather than putting the whole process off 'until we have enough charts.' That means THIS chart NOW...micro to macro. It is called Discovery. Finding it in the 2nd chart is Duplication, and the 3rd, Verification. Chart 4 :: Eureka! I once wandered, a lone male, into a class at an AFA convention of what appeared to be its own convention of female gym teachers discussing 500 lesbian charts. When I inquired as to the dynamics of lesbianism in a chart, I was frostily told... " we need more charts. " They did indeed! An example of macro to micro. Doesn't work. For a hundred years Alzheimer's was an obscure disorder. It has so suddenly mushroomed (like autism from the mercury in vaccinations) that it is only scantily found in astrologers files. It will be hard for you to get much more than thirty, a number far below the number required by your school's mindset for testing and we may all have to go home none the wiser. I'm sorry, but despite my moniker, 'pansophia' (who should have a better right?)...the Universe seems perfectly pleased in not revealing to me the greater mysteries of Vimshottari Dasa. Dark*Star ________________________________ Juliana Swanson wrote: > Thanks very much for the data. > > You " dark star " certainly do not know me, so why would you insinuate > so inexorably that my analysis won't be heartfelt or that my > conclusions will be devoid of meaning? No matter how many charts I > choose to study, my intention is to bring light to a subject that > remains mysterious to many. Again, thank you for sharing your data. > I shall pass on the rest. > > , Dark Star > <pansophia@e...> wrote: > > > > A far greater mystery is Vimshottari Dasa. > > > > Male Alzheimer's > > April 9, 1938 > > 1:30 pm EST > > Philadelphia, Pa. > > ...bc, himself...now dead, no details > > > > Three Alzheimer's heartfully understood are better than 100 > > 'scientifically' taken apart > > to catalogue their elements only to end up with no meaningful > conclusions. > > Even 500 aren't enough for that routine. > > ________________________________ > > > > Juliana Swanson wrote: > > > > > Alzheimer's is a great mystery. > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Dark*Star, I do not believe we have to choose between one way of astro-research versus another. Last time I checked, there was more than one way to crack an egg. While we are on the topic of research, and since you brought up something about a supposed link between autism and vaccinations, the Danes did a significant study a few years back that provided strong evidence AGAINST a link between the two: http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/November2002/DanishStudy7.ht m Re: your false assumption about my " school's mindset for testing, " nobody is requiring me to collect any certain number of charts or even to do a research thesis, for that matter. This is my choice alone. Fortunately, I already have about 50 charts of Alzheimers' victims with AA data...20 more than your perceived limit of 30 and counting. Again, thanks for the data, but your supercilious judgments are not at all constructive or instructive to me. My request for research data obviously touched an unwelcoming nerve in you, and for that, I am truly sorry. Yes, I am " new " on this particular forum. Perhaps it is not where I belong, especially if you are the moderator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 At 03:42 PM 7/4/05 -0700, Dark*Star wrote: > >Juliana, >It will be hard for you to get much more than thirty [cases of Alzhimer's]... ADB4 has 41 cases of Alzheimer's. It shouldn't be so difficult to find additional cases as the disease is all too common now. >...the Universe seems perfectly pleased in not revealing >to me the greater mysteries of Vimshottari Dasa. D*S, I think I remember you saying that you prefer the 28-fold division of the lunar mansions? I've not been able to get Vimshottari to work well without reference to India's 27 nakshatras. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 , " Juliana Swanson " <omhamsa> wrote: > Dark*Star, > Again, thanks for the data, but your supercilious judgments are not > at all constructive or instructive to me. My request for research > data obviously touched an unwelcoming nerve in you, and for that, I > am truly sorry. Yes, I am " new " on this particular forum. Perhaps it > is not where I belong, especially if you are the moderator. You belong. He/she's not the moderator. Please stick around! Buz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 At 12:01 AM 7/5/05 -0000, Juliana wrote: >Yes, I am " new " on this particular forum. Perhaps it >is not where I belong, especially if you are the moderator. Juliana, please stay around! It's rare to find an astrologer who's doing research at the professional level. I'm the acting moderator, though the group is owned by a man who has moved on to other interests. The original aim of this group was to promote western sidereal astrology, but the forum has become very eclectic and includes a fair amount of Jyotish. Those of us who would like to see standards in astrology and among astrologers have a tough fight ahead of us. Are you going to be using Mark's FAR analysis? Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Juliana, This is not a rough and tumble line ~ for I am not the moderator That would be our Djwal Khul of Mt Shasta ~ of unfailing good manners. Again...garynull.com...gives protocol for reversing Alzheimer's with mega vitamins and supplements as well as much counters to the Danish study of autism~mercury. D.S. ________________________________ Juliana Swanson wrote: > > While we are on the topic of research, and since you brought up > something about a supposed link between autism and vaccinations, the > Danes did a significant study a few years back that provided strong > evidence AGAINST a link between the two: > http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/November2002/DanishStudy7.ht > m > > Re: your false assumption about my " school's mindset for testing, " > nobody is requiring me to collect any certain number of charts or > even to do a research thesis, for that matter. This is my choice > alone. > > Fortunately, I already have about 50 charts of Alzheimers' victims > with AA data...20 more than your perceived limit of 30 and counting. > > Again, thanks for the data, but your supercilious judgments are not > at all constructive or instructive to me. My request for research > data obviously touched an unwelcoming nerve in you, and for that, I > am truly sorry. Yes, I am " new " on this particular forum. Perhaps it > is not where I belong, especially if you are the moderator. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Therese, The good people over on the traditional lines fuss over their Firdaria in just the same manner as the Hindoo do with their Vimshottari, trying to get the little buggers to work in a dependable fashion. I do like the 28 royal courts of the moon. They seem to exude precedence and, of course, emanate from the number seven and start from 0*Taurus. Let's don't forget that it was all in the high worship of numbers that the Indians chopped back the exaltation degrees of a couple planets just so their grand total added together would yield a sacred number. But then, each to his own ~ It is all private mythology. Dark*Star ________________________________ therese hamilton wrote: > D*S, I think I remember you saying that you prefer the 28-fold division of > the lunar mansions? I've not been able to get Vimshottari to work well > without reference to India's 27 nakshatras. > > Therese > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Hi Dark Star, Nice to read you. Thank you for this message, it was very useful to me and other people. Of course I also study the chart of the medical discoverer or 1st researcher of an illness, to get some clues on the disease ... but then you speak about the statistical approach and other matters ... unbelievably, 2 hours after reading your message a suscriber of my Spanish list writes asking on how to investigate a skin disease, Vitiligo, which she also suffers. So I combined your opinions with mine and there was a long answer to her query. best wishes, man alhena casanova --- Dark Star <pansophia escribió: Juliana, Of course you would know Alois Alzheimer; I only put his data out for all those who never heard of him...and as a clue to investigating Alzheimer's. You are new to the list and would not know of my insistence in searching for the key to any disability in the very first chart we find it (for me, Alzheimer's in the Philadelphia chart I posted) rather than putting the whole process off 'until we have enough charts.' That means THIS chart NOW...micro to macro. It is called Discovery. Finding it in the 2nd chart is Duplication, and the 3rd, Verification. Chart 4 :: Eureka! I once wandered, a lone male, into a class at an AFA convention of what appeared to be its own convention of female gym teachers discussing 500 lesbian charts. When I inquired as to the dynamics of lesbianism in a chart, I was frostily told... " we need more charts. " They did indeed! An example of macro to micro. Doesn't work. For a hundred years Alzheimer's was an obscure disorder. It has so suddenly mushroomed (like autism from the mercury in vaccinations) that it is only scantily found in astrologers files. It will be hard for you to get much more than thirty, a number far below the number required by your school's mindset for testing and we may all have to go home none the wiser. I'm sorry, but despite my moniker, 'pansophia' (who should have a better right?)...the Universe seems perfectly pleased in not revealing to me the greater mysteries of Vimshottari Dasa. Dark*Star ________________________________ _________ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo , el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo..ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi Therese, I am also interested in medical cases. There are quite a few data concerning mentally deranged, schizophrenics, algoholics, etc., from CURA gathered by Gauquelin. What I have noticed is that all data have been rounded to 1/2-1 hr step which turn out to be completely useless. Even all twins are not the same. Can you upload some Alzheimer's symdrome data for me and lists as I cannot afford the ADB 4. It's too expensive for me? Regards, Harit =================================== , therese hamilton <eastwest@s...> wrote: > At 03:42 PM 7/4/05 -0700, Dark*Star wrote: > > > >Juliana, > >It will be hard for you to get much more than thirty [cases of Alzhimer's]... > > ADB4 has 41 cases of Alzheimer's. It shouldn't be so difficult to find > additional cases as the disease is all too common now. > > >...the Universe seems perfectly pleased in not revealing > >to me the greater mysteries of Vimshottari Dasa. > > D*S, I think I remember you saying that you prefer the 28-fold division of > the lunar mansions? I've not been able to get Vimshottari to work well > without reference to India's 27 nakshatras. > > Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Hello Harit, I'm sorry about the delay in your post appearing in the sidereal forum. All new posters are on moderation, and yesterday our mail server shut down resulting in my delay going on-line. You are no longer on moderation, so your posts should show up soon after you send them. (More below) At 07:09 AM 7/12/05 -0000, Harit wrote: >Hi Therese, > >I am also interested in medical cases. There are quite a few data >concerning mentally deranged, schizophrenics, algoholics, etc., from >CURA gathered by Gauquelin. What I have noticed is that all data have been rounded to 1/2-1 hr step which turn out to be completely useless. Yes, the Gauquelin data is not of much use for serious research. We need more exact birth times, especially for the varga charts. >Can you upload some Alzheimer's symdrome data for me and lists as I >cannot afford the ADB 4. It's too expensive for me. Two or three years ago I asked Mark McDonough about sharing data for research, and he approves. I'll see if there's a way to send you some data. It may be difficult extracting data from ADB. In looking over some of the charts in ADB, the Moon seemed to be the center of influences that can result in Alzheimer's. Sincerely, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 A recent survey by United Press found that autism is virtually unknown among Pennsylvania's Amish populations. ~ They DON'T do vaccinations. Dark*Star ________________________________ Juliana Swanson wrote: > While we are on the topic of research, and since you brought up > something about a supposed link between autism and vaccinations, the > Danes did a significant study a few years back that provided strong > evidence AGAINST a link between the two: > http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/November2002/DanishStudy7.ht > m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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