Planets turning around

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Therese wrote:

 

The old ruler of Aquarius is Saturn. In the old textbooks we find that

Saturn was linked to the occult. Sidereal Aquarius has always been

sensitive in a psychic way, just like the other sidereal signs of its

triplicity--Gemini and Libra.

 

Sari:

 

Therese, though I wouldn't go as far as to say that all the sidereal

signs are essentially the same than the following tropical signs, I

really like this thinking of yours. I can see how Neptune has taken some

of the qualities of the traditional Saturn - and how Uranus with his

cold, inhuman, scientific side has taken some of the qualities of Saturn

too, because most of the tropical Aquarius is sidereally Capricorn.

 

Note how Saturn, the traditional slave, has in the modern tropical

astrology become " The Great Teacher " as most of the tropical Capricorn

covers sidereally Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter! How traditionally quite

conservative and pompous Jupiter has become a freedom-loving, roaming

cowboy, because most of the planets in the tropical Sagittarius can be

found in the sidereal Scorpio ruled traditionally by Mars. Pluto has

become a sexual, manipulative planet, because the tropical Scorpio

covers for the most part the same degrees as the sidereal Libra ruled by

Venus. Venus has got more emphasis on her intellectual, perfection

striven side (which people interpret as " striving for balance " in modern

tropical astrology), because most of the tropical Libra becomes

sidereally Virgo ruled by Mercury.

 

With the tropical Virgo the tropicalists have not been able to solve the

problem, so they just say that " Virgo will find a suitable ruler, sooner

or later " unless they don't think that the real ruler of Virgo is

Chiron. Finally the heroic warlord Sun in his fiery cariot has become

" The Divine Child " (according to Liz Greene) because most of the

tropical Leo consists today of the sidereal Cancer ruled by the Moon.

 

Best, Sari

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At 08:28 PM 8/18/05 +0300, Sari wrote:

 

>Therese, though I wouldn't go as far as to say that all the sidereal

>signs are essentially the same than the following tropical signs, I

>really like this thinking of yours.

 

Hello Sari,

 

You've done a really good job of continuing along this line of

thought--that the sidereal signs are essentially the same as the following

Tropical signs. I'll bet you can't find a single Tropical sign that doesn't

make more sense as the preceding sidereal sign with its ruler and (if

applicable) its exalted planet!

 

May I put your comments on my web site under your name? If so, please post

your full name here.

 

I don't understand, however, how Neptune has taken on some of the

traditional qualities of Saturn, though Uranus seems to have absorbed the

more occult side of Saturn (as stated in the old books). It's interesting

that Edgar Cayce said in many, many readings that Saturn related very much

to change and the rubbing out of the past and leaving matters unfinished in

order to make way for new directions. You'll find in general that any truly

successful person who gains the admiration of the world (Jupiter) has

concentrated his/her energies in a single direction. And those on the lower

end of the social spectrum are prone to change occuptions and directions

often (Saturn). They get bored with one ordinary mundane job and move on to

another boring mundane job.

 

I especially like your comments on how Saturn, the traditional slave, has

metamorphized into " The Great Teacher " due to sidereal Sag lying beneath

Tropical Capricorn. Then the million dollar question: " Is there really a

Tropical Capricorn, or are only the sidereal signs for real? "

 

Thanks,

Therese

 

 

Sari wrote:

 

>I can see how Neptune has taken some

>of the qualities of the traditional Saturn - and how Uranus with his

>cold, inhuman, scientific side has taken some of the qualities of Saturn

>too, because most of the tropical Aquarius is sidereally Capricorn.

>

>Note how Saturn, the traditional slave, has in the modern tropical

>astrology become " The Great Teacher " as most of the tropical Capricorn

>covers sidereally Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter! How traditionally quite

>conservative and pompous Jupiter has become a freedom-loving, roaming

>cowboy, because most of the planets in the tropical Sagittarius can be

>found in the sidereal Scorpio ruled traditionally by Mars. Pluto has

>become a sexual, manipulative planet, because the tropical Scorpio

>covers for the most part the same degrees as the sidereal Libra ruled by

>Venus. Venus has got more emphasis on her intellectual, perfection

>striven side (which people interpret as " striving for balance " in modern

>tropical astrology), because most of the tropical Libra becomes

>sidereally Virgo ruled by Mercury.

>

>With the tropical Virgo the tropicalists have not been able to solve the

>problem, so they just say that " Virgo will find a suitable ruler, sooner

>or later " unless they don't think that the real ruler of Virgo is

>Chiron. Finally the heroic warlord Sun in his fiery cariot has become

> " The Divine Child " (according to Liz Greene) because most of the

>tropical Leo consists today of the sidereal Cancer ruled by the Moon.

>

>Best, Sari