Guest guest Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Regulus: 5:06 Leo New Orleans Incorporation Sun and MC: 6:41 Aquarius (6:41 Leo IC) USA SR Hurricane Ascendant: 6:34 Leo USA LR Hurricane Descendant: 6:21 Leo USA SR Louisiana Purchase N.O. Ascendant: 1:21 Leo USA LR Louisiana Purchase N.O. Descendant: 8:37 Leo All angles are for New Orleans at 29N58 90W04. The USA chart used is Boyd. The ecliptic is Fagan-Bradley. I've used the year 2000 RA and Declination for Regulus, with closely approximate precession correction of those coordinates for 1802, 1803, and 1805. The Louisiana Purchase was April 30, 1803. New Orleans was incorporated on February 17, 1805, Noon LAT. Note that Aldebaran is partile on the August 2005 IC, and Antares is 2.4 degrees from that chart's MC. The Regulus/Aldebaran DSC/IC paran runs through 29N21. Defining " one degree " as " four minutes of RAMC, " Regulus is the following distances from the relevant angles in the above five charts, in their listed order: 1.3 degrees, 1.9, 0.5, 4.3, and 4.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 fimtinnegan wrote: >Regulus: 5:06 Leo > >New Orleans Incorporation Sun and MC: 6:41 Aquarius (6:41 Leo IC) > >USA SR Hurricane Ascendant: 6:34 Leo > >USA LR Hurricane Descendant: 6:21 Leo > >USA SR Louisiana Purchase N.O. Ascendant: 1:21 Leo > >USA LR Louisiana Purchase N.O. Descendant: 8:37 Leo > >All angles are for New Orleans at 29N58 90W04. The USA chart used is >Boyd. The ecliptic is Fagan-Bradley. I've used the year 2000 RA and >Declination for Regulus, with closely approximate precession >correction of those coordinates for 1802, 1803, and 1805. The >Louisiana Purchase was April 30, 1803. New Orleans was incorporated >on February 17, 1805, Noon LAT. > >Note that Aldebaran is partile on the August 2005 IC, and Antares is >2.4 degrees from that chart's MC. The Regulus/Aldebaran DSC/IC paran >runs through 29N21. > >Defining " one degree " as " four minutes of RAMC, " Regulus is the >following distances from the relevant angles in the above five >charts, in their listed order: 1.3 degrees, 1.9, 0.5, 4.3, and 4.2. This demonstrates that the correct zodiacal determination (Fagan/Bradley)to mark the return to the correct part of the sky. > >Bert Fannin > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Bert -- I don't understand your interesting comment -- could you please elaborate? (I mean, I literally don't understand the words and the meaning of the sentence -- I'm NOT saying " I don't understand how you could assert such a thing! " ) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 , " fimtinnegan " <kh1100@n...> wrote: > Bert -- > > I don't understand your interesting comment -- could you please > elaborate? (I mean, I literally don't understand the words and the > meaning of the sentence -- I'm NOT saying " I don't understand how you > could assert such a thing! " ) > > Thanks. Ditto that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Buz Overbeck wrote: > , " fimtinnegan " <kh1100@n...> >wrote: > > >>Bert -- >> >>I don't understand your interesting comment -- could you please >>elaborate? (I mean, I literally don't understand the words and the >>meaning of the sentence -- I'm NOT saying " I don't understand how you >>could assert such a thing! " ) >> >>Thanks. >> >> > > > It is when one is doing ingresses that the longitude must point to an exact point in the sky. In natal work, it does not matter as much difference, because all points are changed systematically. If all points are revalued at the same rate, there is little relative change. But an ingress (Capsolar for instances) is the return of a body to the same spot in the sky year after year. Therefore the Ayanamsa makes a much bigger difference. > Bert Fannin Location and Timing Astrology www.ltastrology.com > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Bert -- Thank you for clarifying. I think the concept of Capsolars and Caplunars is interesting, and I'm aware that Bradley's preliminary work on the fiducial was largely rooted in such charts. I should mention, though, that the research indicators I found that seem to suggest a tentative relation between Regulus and the current crisis (and yes, I deliberately over-qualified that!) do not involve the fiducial as such. Of course, they do depend on measuring longitude, a sidereal coordinate; and the idea of basing returns on " tropical " (a misnomer) versions of sidereal coordinates is so ridiculous as to need no further discussion. On the other hand, I sometimes wonder whether the ex-precessed RA should be used as the Moon's return coordinate. Because I believe conjuntions in RA and oppositions in RA, plus parans, are the strongest aspects (always ex-precessed if related to the radical chart), I've considered my inconsistency troublesome in using longitude for the return Moon's coordinate. But that's a completely different subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 fimtinnegan wrote: >Bert -- > >Thank you for clarifying. I think the concept of Capsolars and >Caplunars is interesting, and I'm aware that Bradley's preliminary work >on the fiducial was largely rooted in such charts. > >I should mention, though, that the research indicators I found that >seem to suggest a tentative relation between Regulus and the current >crisis (and yes, I deliberately over-qualified that!) do not involve >the fiducial as such. Of course, they do depend on measuring >longitude, a sidereal coordinate; and the idea of basing returns >on " tropical " (a misnomer) versions of sidereal coordinates is so >ridiculous as to need no further discussion. > >On the other hand, I sometimes wonder whether the ex-precessed RA >should be used as the Moon's return coordinate. Because I believe >conjuntions in RA and oppositions in RA, plus parans, are the strongest >aspects (always ex-precessed if related to the radical chart), I've >considered my inconsistency troublesome in using longitude for the >return Moon's coordinate. But that's a completely different subject. > > > > > > > > The jury is still out on that one. I did some work earlier on with the Idea of a RA return of Moon or Sun. It is true that conjunctions in RA are important. But I did not get the kind of results I would have expected. the Return of the Sun to a point in the sky (0 of the Cardinals) seems to be important, when measured along the Zodiacal circle, from the Sidereal fiducial. From the work of Bradley it can be seen how the right determination (I feel that Fagan/Bradley gives the best fit for events) would be critical. When I took a number of mundane event, Floods, Crashes and Fires, I found that the time of the ingresses, as determined by F/B gave a time that placed the proper Planets closer to the angles for the location of the event. Laheri was off by a noticeable amount. What is interesting is that when the ingress for Laheri is looked at en mundo, the difference between the RAMC of the ingress or its progressions (Neo-SQ) and the RAMCs for the malefic crossings, when converted to UT, is very near the difference between the UT for the ingress as calculated using F/A and Laheri. This suggests,, but by no mean proves, that the difference between a valid determination and one that is off is this difference. As I said, the jury is still out. Sidereally, Bert Fannin Location and Timing Astrology www.ltastrology.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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