Triplicities

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I have a question for Therese and anyone else who wants to chime in. I've

been reading the snowcrest site, and was wondering whether triplicities are

still considered valid in sidereal astrology? On reading the trigon page, it

seems the attachment of fire, air, earth, and water is still valid, it's

just switched, re: the tropical earth triplicity is now attributed to Aries,

Leo and Sagittarius. Is this correct?

 

Andi

[Guest guest]

, " Andi Tobin "

<stardancer wrote:

 

>I have a question for Therese and anyone else who wants to chime in.

I've been reading the snowcrest site, and was wondering whether

triplicities are still considered valid in sidereal astrology? On

reading the trigon page, it seems the attachment of fire, air, earth,

and water is still valid, it's just switched, re: the tropical earth

triplicity is now attributed to Aries, Leo and Sagittarius. Is this

correct?

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Hi Andi,

 

Many western sidereal astrologers believe that Ptolemy invented the

triplicities, but they go back much futher to Mesopotamia. They were

considered to be important patterns in the zodiac and were associated

with the four winds. We don't know how they were used. (Mesopotamia

*didn't* have the square divisions of the signs--cardinal, fixed and

mutable.)

 

Either Ptolemy or Valens aligned the triplicites with the four

elements, and from then on they were called fire, earth, air and

water by Tropical astrologers. As I remember, Fagan and other early

sideralists dispensed with sign patterns altogether, blaming Ptolemy

for their false invention.

 

As has been pointed out by some writers, the Tropical characteristics

of the four triplicities don't match the ancient understanding of the

elements. (I have this in a file somewhere, and will have to look up

the astrologers who wrote about this. I know Rob Hand has discussed

the triplicities.)

 

As far as I'm concerned, the observations of the four triplicities by

Tropical astrologers do indeed move back one triplicity in the

sidereal zodiac. But they are no longer named for the four elements.

How this works is explained on the Lost Zodiac site in the first

three articles:

 

The Lost Zodiac, Part 1: Symbolism of the Sun and Moon

 

The Lost Zodiac, Part 2: Polarity of the Signs: Male and Female

 

The Lost Zodiac, Part 3: The Trigons (Triplicities: fire, earth, air,

water)

 

Reactions to those articles run all the way from, " Now I understand

the sidereal zodiac--thanks! " to " You're crazy! "

 

I believe Jyotish has blundered in assigning the tropical meanings of

the triplicities to the sidereal triplicities of the same name. You

can decide for yourself after considering the above articles in

relation to people with stelliums in zodiac signs. Feel free to print

the articles if you like.

 

Best wishes in your search for truth!

 

Therese