Capricorn and Aquarius

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At 08:46 PM 8/19/06 -0000, Bliss wrote:

>

>Someone mentioned that vedically saturn is considered an airy planet

>and mercury a grounded planet.

 

Hi Bliss,

 

The terms 'earth' and 'air' are misnomers. (We didn't use the word

'grounded.') The signs have been mis-labled from way back according to

Robert Schmidt (who has translated Ptolemy), Robert Hand and others. I

explained the probable correct labels in an earlier post today. Much of

India's astrology comes from the Hellenistic, and some of it has been

garbled in the translation.

 

>Would love to know about these

>confounds. How does vedic take differ on aquarious and capricorn

>anyway. Maybe there are some clues there...

 

India doesn't talk about the signs exept to note which planets are strong

in which signs. However, I've been writing about the signs on my web site

(Cap and Aqu aren't posted yet).

 

Sidereal CAPRICORN:

Assciated with Number 10

Aware of social and universal concerns, impartial in its reasoning (all

inclusive), emotionally detatched, tries to fit diverse ideas into its

mental viewpoint. May be too great a reliance on mental analysis...(sounds

like Tropical Aquarius--right!)

 

Saturn is the democrat--Saturn brought the frightened and antagonistic

tribes together in the area of Rome. The reign of Saturn was known as the

Golden Age because he taught the people to trust one another and to live

together in harmony. (...see the sidereal Capricorn connection here...the

wish for social equality?) The Saturnalia recalled the happy times of the

Golden Age. Capricorn is the sign of material science.

 

Sidereal AQUARIUS:

The opposite sign from Leo. The ego is weak here, but sympathy and

intuition strong, can be very much an introvert. Aquarius is the 11th sign,

number 11, a number of mystery, tends to have obscure meanings. Number

eleven is associated with peril and martydom. Note that Uranus was the

mythological victim being castrated by Saturn. (Victimization is now

associated with Tropical Pisces, but neither Neptune or Jupiter was ever a

victim, and Jupiter was king of the gods.)

 

Aquarius is often called upon to sacrifice or surrender something it values

or even sacrifice itself. Aquarius is the sign of the mystic. Ramakrishna

Paramahansa had a huge stellium in that sign. The metaphysical sciences

also come under Aquarius.

 

The myth of Uranus explains why the planet has been associated with

unexpected disasters and sudden events. In ancient times Uranus ruled the

invisible heavens beyond the world of form. Neither psychic impressions nor

electrical energies, which Uranus is said to rule, can be seen in the

conventional sense of the word.

 

Well, I have many pages on Capricorn and Aquarius, but the above snippets

give an idea of the differences between the two signs.

 

>BTW, what have the latest astronomical findings done lately, since I

>don't have the time to follow them. Is Pluto still a planet or is it no

>longer one being too small and having erratic orbits or something?

 

The vote of the astronomical union is on August 22, I believe. I might have

the date wrong. Don't worry. The results will be splashed all over the TV,

the internet, mags and newspapers.

 

Therese

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Pluto is considered a planet as well as 3 new ones.

 

 

 

 

 

Bettina

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of therese hamilton

Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:23 PM

 

Capricorn and Aquarius

 

 

 

At 08:46 PM 8/19/06 -0000, Bliss wrote:

>

>Someone mentioned that vedically saturn is considered an airy planet

>and mercury a grounded planet.

 

Hi Bliss,

 

The terms 'earth' and 'air' are misnomers. (We didn't use the word

'grounded.') The signs have been mis-labled from way back according to

Robert Schmidt (who has translated Ptolemy), Robert Hand and others. I

explained the probable correct labels in an earlier post today. Much of

India's astrology comes from the Hellenistic, and some of it has been

garbled in the translation.

 

>Would love to know about these

>confounds. How does vedic take differ on aquarious and capricorn

>anyway. Maybe there are some clues there...

 

India doesn't talk about the signs exept to note which planets are strong

in which signs. However, I've been writing about the signs on my web site

(Cap and Aqu aren't posted yet).

 

Sidereal CAPRICORN:

Assciated with Number 10

Aware of social and universal concerns, impartial in its reasoning (all

inclusive), emotionally detatched, tries to fit diverse ideas into its

mental viewpoint. May be too great a reliance on mental analysis...(sounds

like Tropical Aquarius--right!)

 

Saturn is the democrat--Saturn brought the frightened and antagonistic

tribes together in the area of Rome. The reign of Saturn was known as the

Golden Age because he taught the people to trust one another and to live

together in harmony. (...see the sidereal Capricorn connection here...the

wish for social equality?) The Saturnalia recalled the happy times of the

Golden Age. Capricorn is the sign of material science.

 

Sidereal AQUARIUS:

The opposite sign from Leo. The ego is weak here, but sympathy and

intuition strong, can be very much an introvert. Aquarius is the 11th sign,

number 11, a number of mystery, tends to have obscure meanings. Number

eleven is associated with peril and martydom. Note that Uranus was the

mythological victim being castrated by Saturn. (Victimization is now

associated with Tropical Pisces, but neither Neptune or Jupiter was ever a

victim, and Jupiter was king of the gods.)

 

Aquarius is often called upon to sacrifice or surrender something it values

or even sacrifice itself. Aquarius is the sign of the mystic. Ramakrishna

Paramahansa had a huge stellium in that sign. The metaphysical sciences

also come under Aquarius.

 

The myth of Uranus explains why the planet has been associated with

unexpected disasters and sudden events. In ancient times Uranus ruled the

invisible heavens beyond the world of form. Neither psychic impressions nor

electrical energies, which Uranus is said to rule, can be seen in the

conventional sense of the word.

 

Well, I have many pages on Capricorn and Aquarius, but the above snippets

give an idea of the differences between the two signs.

 

>BTW, what have the latest astronomical findings done lately, since I

>don't have the time to follow them. Is Pluto still a planet or is it no

>longer one being too small and having erratic orbits or something?

 

The vote of the astronomical union is on August 22, I believe. I might have

the date wrong. Don't worry. The results will be splashed all over the TV,

the internet, mags and newspapers.

 

Therese