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Therese wrote:

 

Well, the so-called 'earth' trigon in the sidereal zodiac is

> communicative, sociable and can be analytical. This is really the Stoic

> DRY

> category: algebraic, object oriented, clear, enhances distinctions,

> rational. (These are the tropical 'air' signs.)

 

Sari:

 

In fact I don't quite agree with this. I see it like this:

 

- Indians say that

a) Venus and the Moon are strong in North

b) Mercury is strong in East

c) Mars and the Sun are strong in South

d) Saturn in strong in West. I put these on a circle that's divided by four.

 

Then regardless of that it brings to mind tropical astrology, I think

- North is like winter, cold, increasingly moist

- East is like spring, moist, increasingly hot

- South is like summer, hot, increasingly dry

- West is like autumn, dry, increasingly cold.

 

So I get:

- according to the Vedic doctrine, Venus and the Moon are Water planets,

strong in North - so they are cold, increasingly moist

- Mercury is an Earth planet, strong in East - moist, increasingly hot

(representing mellow, fertile soil in the spring, sprouting new life, eager

to have fun)

- Mars and the Sun are fiery planets, strong in South - hot, increasingly

dry

- Saturn is an airy planet, strong in West - dry, increasingly cold.

 

This model doesn't correlate with Aristotle, but it describes the nature of

planets very well in my opinion. In the Vedic system Mercury is the prince

of the planetary cabinet, laying on divan, making tricks to driving away

boredom. I don't see much a dry intellectual here, but rather a funny, a bit

superficial figure, telling jokes, playing with words, trying different

ideas just to amuse himself.

 

Saturn is the dry intellectual in the planetary system, lost in his

theoretical models. That's why he's also the bureocratic, not Jupiter.

Saturn as a dry intellectual correlates well with Gauquelin key words, that

are perfectly useful in reading charts IMO, regardless that Gauquelin found

the strong planets in cadent houses.

 

One prominent consequence of this model is that we get a cycle divided in

two halves: the first half is the moist part, receptive, growing, gathering

new experiences; the second half is the dry part, contracting, assimilating,

putting things out. The Earth and Water signs are feminine = moist; the Fire

and Air signs are masculine = dry.

 

The " leakage theory " works well with some signs - for example with sidereal

Pisces/tropical Aries or with sidereal Libra/tropical Scorpio (because Venus

is the planet of strong emotions, authenticity and drama) - but it doesn't

work 100% with all the signs. Sidereal Sagittarius has quite much of the

dryness of tropical Capricorn, but it doesn't get the dry quality from the

" bureocratic " Jupiter but from it's fiery masculinity. Jupiter is more like

a shaman and a centaur with all the implications of the half a man - half a

horse myth, that is quite familiar to us now, when there has been so much

fuss about Chiron.

 

Sidereal Capricorn on the other hand is a moist, feminine sign and it's the

moist, feminine part of the otherwise dry Saturn. That's why Capricorn is

often quite eccentric, but also materialistic. Because it's an Earth sign,

it has some Mercurial quality, but Mercuriality here doesn't mean analytical

intellectualism, but swift liberality and orientation to sensual things.

 

Regards, Sari