Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 >So much to study and learn--so little time!! I like this philosophy you have about learning. No wonder you have such a wealth of information. Thanks for taking the time to respond and advise. I'll try to digest and try out some of your recommended reading and will let you know how it goes... Have a wonderful weekend! Felicia Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote: At 12:20 PM 3/13/08 -0700, Felicia wrote: > > I have been studying western astrology for years, but have only started accepting clients for the past two years. I mostly apply the evolutionary astrology approach to help clients understand their evolutionary path. I also help folks identify career path options, coupling astrology with knowledge from my master's degree in organizational development. Felicia, this is quite a big responsibility. I've never worked with evolutionary astrology, and am not quite sure what it is. It's been discussed on some tropical forums. Career path options is a great way to go if you have a system that works. In this respect, you'll find sidereal rulerships more applicable than the tropical. >(...) One thing that I find most lacking in the books I've read so far is predicting death and health which are of primary concerns to my client base. There is some good information in Ernst Wilhelm's GRAHA SUTRAS on the planetary rulerships of the body's energy and health systems. I didn't know, for example, before studying that book, that Mars has to do with the nervous system because it's a 'hot' planet and related to the flow of electricity throught the body. Wilhelm translates ancient Sanskrit terms that describe the various ways that planets act. Most interesting and helpful. I have a shelf full of Jyotish texts on health and disease with titles like " The Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases, " but have never really studied these books. The Astrology Center of America has translated a few of the older western medical texts. They're quite interesting, but again, I've never really worked with health and disease. http://www.astroamerica.com/ >>I was told that eastern astrology has a better grasp of this subject. Am I wrong? Well, this is what I am hoping to find out by venturing over to eastern astrology. This site began as a forum for western sidereal astrologers, but they seem to be few and far between compared to newer students of Jyotish. Jyotish seems to have struck a chord in the minds of western astrologers, perhaps because some of the emphasis is similar to tropical astrology. Astrologers always shy away from predicting death, though I've noticed that in solar returns the 4th house generally comes into play, representing an 'ending.' Whereas astrologers can chart the progress of illness with transits and solar returns, becoming specific about health problems really belongs to practicing health professionals. This is why it would be very helpful for astrologers interested in this area to link up with someone in the health field who is sympathetic to astrology. This should really be a joint venture, and could be very productive. I have a book in my library, CASENOTES OF A MEDICAL ASTROLOGER by Dr. Margaret Millard, M.D., who was a personal friend of mine. She left us some years ago, but her book is still here. I have to confess that I'd have to read the book again to remember everything she wrote. It would be helpful to re-draw the charts in the sidereal zodiac. If your interest is in pinpointing health problems, you might want to find a copy of that book--published in 1980 by Samuel Weiser. I haven't checked the internet to see if it's available. My own particular interest is in finding signatures for those who are happy in their work, so that the patterns can be used to counsel parents to help provide the best situtions for their children to prepare for work that would make them happy. So much to study and learn--so little time!! Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Another thought on the subject of death: astrology is not the one and only factor operative in our lives. There is a certain amount of free will (whether or not to smoke, use drugs, drink too much, eat a lot of crap) and also some dependency on culture, nationality, technology, economic status, etc. For example, a child born in a technologically undeveloped country where state of the art medical treatments are not available might die of an infectious disease at an early age, whereas someone born to a well-to-do family (or one with good health insurance) in a technologically advanced country can beat even some cancers and other serious diseases. The rules of Vedic astrology are thousands of years old and predate modern life-saving medical techniques. Another example would be women who die in childbirth. That used to be very common in the US and western European countries but isn't any more. However, it still is in non-industrialized parts of the world. Some of the ancient rules state that a person born with the ascendant or Moon in 29 degrees of a water sign will die in infancy, but I've known some healthy adults with that in their horoscopes. As much as I love astrology and believe that it shows us many truths, it's not the only determining factor in our lives and we shouldn't use it as an excuse for a fatalistic mindset. That being said, I'd love to see a study of the charts of people who've lived to be over 100, or even 90. Of course it might be difficult to find a large body of correct data for that. My own grandmother lived to be 103 and from what I could figure out about her horoscope (she knew her approximate birth time) she had her 8th and asc rulers well aspected by Jupiter. My mother is now 90 and still in good health and she also has her asc and 8th ruler (Mars, as she has Aries rising) well aspected by Jupiter. ....Bettina _____ On Behalf Of Therese Hamilton Friday, March 14, 2008 10:56 PM Astrology and Health (was Newbie introduction) At 12:20 PM 3/13/08 -0700, Felicia wrote: > > I have been studying western astrology for years, but have only started accepting clients for the past two years. I mostly apply the evolutionary astrology approach to help clients understand their evolutionary path. I also help folks identify career path options, coupling astrology with knowledge from my master's degree in organizational development. Felicia, this is quite a big responsibility. I've never worked with evolutionary astrology, and am not quite sure what it is. It's been discussed on some tropical forums. Career path options is a great way to go if you have a system that works. In this respect, you'll find sidereal rulerships more applicable than the tropical. >(...) One thing that I find most lacking in the books I've read so far is predicting death and health which are of primary concerns to my client base. There is some good information in Ernst Wilhelm's GRAHA SUTRAS on the planetary rulerships of the body's energy and health systems. I didn't know, for example, before studying that book, that Mars has to do with the nervous system because it's a 'hot' planet and related to the flow of electricity throught the body. Wilhelm translates ancient Sanskrit terms that describe the various ways that planets act. Most interesting and helpful. I have a shelf full of Jyotish texts on health and disease with titles like " The Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases, " but have never really studied these books. The Astrology Center of America has translated a few of the older western medical texts. They're quite interesting, but again, I've never really worked with health and disease. http://www.astroame <http://www.astroamerica.com/> rica.com/ >>I was told that eastern astrology has a better grasp of this subject. Am I wrong? Well, this is what I am hoping to find out by venturing over to eastern astrology. This site began as a forum for western sidereal astrologers, but they seem to be few and far between compared to newer students of Jyotish. Jyotish seems to have struck a chord in the minds of western astrologers, perhaps because some of the emphasis is similar to tropical astrology. Astrologers always shy away from predicting death, though I've noticed that in solar returns the 4th house generally comes into play, representing an 'ending.' Whereas astrologers can chart the progress of illness with transits and solar returns, becoming specific about health problems really belongs to practicing health professionals. This is why it would be very helpful for astrologers interested in this area to link up with someone in the health field who is sympathetic to astrology. This should really be a joint venture, and could be very productive. I have a book in my library, CASENOTES OF A MEDICAL ASTROLOGER by Dr. Margaret Millard, M.D., who was a personal friend of mine. She left us some years ago, but her book is still here. I have to confess that I'd have to read the book again to remember everything she wrote. It would be helpful to re-draw the charts in the sidereal zodiac. If your interest is in pinpointing health problems, you might want to find a copy of that book--published in 1980 by Samuel Weiser. I haven't checked the internet to see if it's available. My own particular interest is in finding signatures for those who are happy in their work, so that the patterns can be used to counsel parents to help provide the best situtions for their children to prepare for work that would make them happy. 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