Evolutionary astrology / Parashara's Light

[Guest guest]

Felicia, you've stirred such interesting discussion here in the last few

days, thank you for that!

 

You asked:

 

> Have you used evolutionary astrology in your work?

 

Sari:

 

No. I've just read a couple of books a few years ago and psychological

approach is not my main priority. And I seldom see clients, I'm more an

research oriented astrologer.

 

Felicia wrote:

 

I purchased Parashara's Light 7.0 hoping that I could use the software to

help me learn vedic astrology.

 

When I opened the application, it was like looking at an ocean full of

potential discoveries, only that the maps are all in Greek, and there are

sooo many of them! So many features! I don't know where to begin.

 

Have any of you used the software and have you been happy with it?

 

Sari:

 

I too have Parashara's Light 7 and I used a lot that program a lot when I

studied jyotish more deeply. I like it. But nowadays, when my approach is

more Western, I look only Vimsottari dasha and sayanadi avasthas (an

advanced technique) from it and the rest I look from Solar Fire. But

Parashara's Light helps you to look for things that you will learn from

jyotish books, for example Indian dignities (that differ from the Western

ones), yogas etc. And there is Vedic astrology tutorial, so the program

teaches you too. The program contains also classic astrology texts so you

get a feeling what classical Indian astrology is like.

 

Best, Sari

[Guest guest]

Sari wrote:

Felicia, you've stirred such interesting discussion here in the last few

days, thank you for that!

 

Felicia:

Sari, I'm glad I stirred some interest in the newbie questions I asked. It

seems there is a huge amount of resource and experience in this forum. I

consider myself so lucky to be one of the beneficiary!

 

Being a 0 degree tropical Aries, I am used to view myself as a baby (in fact a

newborn), always thinking that there is so much for me to learn (how to eat,

talk, walk, run, make people smile and pick me up,...) and not afraid to ask. To

my pleasant surprise, the universe often respond in kind, giving me just what I

need to grow steadily -- very much like the way parents react to a baby.

 

I don't know if this is applicable from the Sidereal side. Does it, Sari?

 

If there is nothing from the sidereal side to support this, I think I will

keep the tropical Aries inheritance because this is one thing I like. :-)

 

Seriously, there is an eternal child within me that I cherish. You probably

cannot see that with my Saturn in the 4th house signature, which gave me

responsibilities very early in life (taking care of 5 younger siblings and being

single mom for many years), but from the tropical perspective, I have the Aries

stellium in the 5th house of children.

 

Now I see that sidereally, that stellium has moved to the 6th house! Does that

mean there is no fun side of me from the Jyotish perspective? As you said, 6th

house is seen as very boring in western astrology.

 

Thanks for the lessons, Sari!

I'm grasping some, while other pieces I'll still need to chew on for a little

bit before digesting them...

 

Felicia

 

Sari M <gerdapp wrote:

Felicia, you've stirred such interesting discussion here in the last

few

days, thank you for that!

 

You asked:

 

> Have you used evolutionary astrology in your work?

 

Sari:

 

No. I've just read a couple of books a few years ago and psychological

approach is not my main priority. And I seldom see clients, I'm more an

research oriented astrologer.

 

Felicia wrote:

 

I purchased Parashara's Light 7.0 hoping that I could use the software to

help me learn vedic astrology.

 

When I opened the application, it was like looking at an ocean full of

potential discoveries, only that the maps are all in Greek, and there are

sooo many of them! So many features! I don't know where to begin.

 

Have any of you used the software and have you been happy with it?

 

Sari:

 

I too have Parashara's Light 7 and I used a lot that program a lot when I

studied jyotish more deeply. I like it. But nowadays, when my approach is

more Western, I look only Vimsottari dasha and sayanadi avasthas (an

advanced technique) from it and the rest I look from Solar Fire. But

Parashara's Light helps you to look for things that you will learn from

jyotish books, for example Indian dignities (that differ from the Western

ones), yogas etc. And there is Vedic astrology tutorial, so the program

teaches you too. The program contains also classic astrology texts so you

get a feeling what classical Indian astrology is like.

 

Best, Sari

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Felicia,

 

you wrote:

 

> Being a 0 degree tropical Aries, I am used to view myself as a baby (in

> fact a newborn), always thinking that there is so much for me to learn

> (how to eat, talk, walk, run, make people smile and pick me up,...) and

> not afraid to ask. To my pleasant surprise, the universe often respond in

> kind, giving me just what I need to grow steadily -- very much like the

> way parents react to a baby.

>

> I don't know if this is applicable from the Sidereal side. Does it, Sari?

 

Sari:

 

I would say that could be because of your ascendant ruler Venus is right on

your descendant. The 7th house represents everything that's opposite to us,

foreign and in that sense also interesting, attractive (like Aries, the sign

on your descendant, is to Libra, your ascending sign). So you're kind of

throwing yourself to new, unfamiliar situations where you're looking at a

foreign landscape. You're this charming Venus that finds herself in a fiery,

masculine environment, completely different than to what she's used to.

Venus is primarily about having fun (of course it's also about beauty, art,

love, romances, etc.). And you have a sanguine, airy ascendant - friendly,

human, curious, etc.

 

In fact, now I'm wondering if sidereal Libra as such has anything to do with

tropical Scorpio... maybe that it's the exaltation sign of Saturn, that

gives some seriousness to it. But actually this is something that I have to

think. Both your ascendant and moon are in airy signs, and if we believe

ancient Western astrologers (like I usually do), then air is a warm and

moist and sanguine element: sensitive, kind, social, getting easily excited,

etc.

 

I don't personally think that the latter signs would be more " evolved " or

mature than the early signs, someone else may think otherwise.

 

You wrote:

 

> Seriously, there is an eternal child within me that I cherish. You

> probably cannot see that with my Saturn in the 4th house signature, which

> gave me responsibilities very early in life (taking care of 5 younger

> siblings and being single mom for many years), but from the tropical

> perspective, I have the Aries stellium in the 5th house of children.

 

Sari:

 

Using Vehlow houses your Saturn is between the 4th and the 5th houses,

slightly more in the 5th house, if the birth time is exact. That might

explain the responsibilities regarding children - Saturn is also quite

strong being in its own sign Aquarius, therefore strong responsibilities.

Jupiter, the ruler of the 3rd equal house cusp of siblings is applying

Saturn in sextile, so you've had to take care of your younger siblings. But

maybe this fun-loving side and the eternal child could come from Venus that

represents you in the chart? Also the Moon in airy Gemini of course, and

with Rahu! The Moon and Venus are two planets that aspect your ascendant, so

they have a lot to say about your personality, and both are soft and

feminine planets by nature.

 

Best, Sari

[Guest guest]

Hi Sari,

 

Thanks for the explanation of how Venus can contribute to my love for

learning, stimulation, and fun.

 

Curiously, though, even with a Libra Asc and Venus conj Desc, I am not a

social butterfly. In fact, I hate parties and social (only) events, prefering to

spend time with friends on a one-on-one basis. I have a few good, close

relationships with friends, co-workers, family members, but most of them don't

know each other. I just seem to treat my relationships in a compartimentalized

way.

 

I can be totally unsociable in group or social situations. My interactions

usually serve some purpose other than just being social, usually having

something interesting to share, discuss, or to be of comfort to each other, or

to learn and help each other.

 

I have a strong feeling that when I walk among the crowd, I am not noticeable

at all! However, if there is reason for me and another person to meet up,

whether at work, at the store, at the doctor, etc., people tend to find me

pleasant and even charming.

 

I read somewhere that it is due to the effect of having Neptune in the first

house; sometimes you make a grand impression, other times you are totally

invisible.

 

What you said about Venus wanting to have fun through discoveries is so true.

Getting to know someone who is different from me is always a stimulating

experience for me. From the evolutionary astrology perspective, this is due to

the 5th house sun, making romances the thing that energizes me. Here, my

teacher explains that it doesn't mean having many romantic liassons. It simply

means getting to know someone I met on the plane (male or female) during that

one flight.

 

I also have a great love for humour, good, clean, real-life humour. I don't

know where that shows up in my chart, but it's another important part of the

child within me.

 

Thanks for reading and sharing Sari!

 

Felicia

 

Sari M <gerdapp wrote:

Hi Felicia,

 

you wrote:

 

> Being a 0 degree tropical Aries, I am used to view myself as a baby (in

> fact a newborn), always thinking that there is so much for me to learn

> (how to eat, talk, walk, run, make people smile and pick me up,...) and

> not afraid to ask. To my pleasant surprise, the universe often respond in

> kind, giving me just what I need to grow steadily -- very much like the

> way parents react to a baby.

>

> I don't know if this is applicable from the Sidereal side. Does it, Sari?

 

Sari:

 

I would say that could be because of your ascendant ruler Venus is right on

your descendant. The 7th house represents everything that's opposite to us,

foreign and in that sense also interesting, attractive (like Aries, the sign

on your descendant, is to Libra, your ascending sign). So you're kind of

throwing yourself to new, unfamiliar situations where you're looking at a

foreign landscape. You're this charming Venus that finds herself in a fiery,

masculine environment, completely different than to what she's used to.

Venus is primarily about having fun (of course it's also about beauty, art,

love, romances, etc.). And you have a sanguine, airy ascendant - friendly,

human, curious, etc.

 

In fact, now I'm wondering if sidereal Libra as such has anything to do with

tropical Scorpio... maybe that it's the exaltation sign of Saturn, that

gives some seriousness to it. But actually this is something that I have to

think. Both your ascendant and moon are in airy signs, and if we believe

ancient Western astrologers (like I usually do), then air is a warm and

moist and sanguine element: sensitive, kind, social, getting easily excited,

etc.

 

I don't personally think that the latter signs would be more " evolved " or

mature than the early signs, someone else may think otherwise.

 

You wrote:

 

> Seriously, there is an eternal child within me that I cherish. You

> probably cannot see that with my Saturn in the 4th house signature, which

> gave me responsibilities very early in life (taking care of 5 younger

> siblings and being single mom for many years), but from the tropical

> perspective, I have the Aries stellium in the 5th house of children.

 

Sari:

 

Using Vehlow houses your Saturn is between the 4th and the 5th houses,

slightly more in the 5th house, if the birth time is exact. That might

explain the responsibilities regarding children - Saturn is also quite

strong being in its own sign Aquarius, therefore strong responsibilities.

Jupiter, the ruler of the 3rd equal house cusp of siblings is applying

Saturn in sextile, so you've had to take care of your younger siblings. But

maybe this fun-loving side and the eternal child could come from Venus that

represents you in the chart? Also the Moon in airy Gemini of course, and

with Rahu! The Moon and Venus are two planets that aspect your ascendant, so

they have a lot to say about your personality, and both are soft and

feminine planets by nature.

 

Best, Sari

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I don't think Venus has to do with fun. Mars has more to do with group

activities like parties. Mars, 8th house, and the sign Scorpio have to do

with group energy. Venus has to do with one on one relationships.

 

 

....Bettina

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Felicia Hong

Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:15 PM

 

Re: Evolutionary astrology / Parashara's Light

 

 

 

Hi Sari,

 

Thanks for the explanation of how Venus can contribute to my love for

learning, stimulation, and fun.

 

Curiously, though, even with a Libra Asc and Venus conj Desc, I am not a

social butterfly. In fact, I hate parties and social (only) events,

prefering to spend time with friends on a one-on-one basis. I have a few

good, close relationships with friends, co-workers, family members, but most

of them don't know each other. I just seem to treat my relationships in a

compartimentalized way.

 

I can be totally unsociable in group or social situations. My interactions

usually serve some purpose other than just being social, usually having

something interesting to share, discuss, or to be of comfort to each other,

or to learn and help each other.

 

I have a strong feeling that when I walk among the crowd, I am not

noticeable at all! However, if there is reason for me and another person to

meet up, whether at work, at the store, at the doctor, etc., people tend to

find me pleasant and even charming.

 

I read somewhere that it is due to the effect of having Neptune in the first

house; sometimes you make a grand impression, other times you are totally

invisible.

 

What you said about Venus wanting to have fun through discoveries is so

true. Getting to know someone who is different from me is always a

stimulating experience for me. From the evolutionary astrology perspective,

this is due to the 5th house sun, making romances the thing that energizes

me. Here, my teacher explains that it doesn't mean having many romantic

liassons. It simply means getting to know someone I met on the plane (male

or female) during that one flight.

 

I also have a great love for humour, good, clean, real-life humour. I don't

know where that shows up in my chart, but it's another important part of the

child within me.

 

Thanks for reading and sharing Sari!

 

Felicia

 

Sari M <gerdapp (AT) welho (DOT) <gerdapp%40welho.com> com> wrote:

Hi Felicia,

 

you wrote:

 

> Being a 0 degree tropical Aries, I am used to view myself as a baby (in

> fact a newborn), always thinking that there is so much for me to learn

> (how to eat, talk, walk, run, make people smile and pick me up,...) and

> not afraid to ask. To my pleasant surprise, the universe often respond in

> kind, giving me just what I need to grow steadily -- very much like the

> way parents react to a baby.

>

> I don't know if this is applicable from the Sidereal side. Does it, Sari?

 

Sari:

 

I would say that could be because of your ascendant ruler Venus is right on

your descendant. The 7th house represents everything that's opposite to us,

foreign and in that sense also interesting, attractive (like Aries, the sign

 

on your descendant, is to Libra, your ascending sign). So you're kind of

throwing yourself to new, unfamiliar situations where you're looking at a

foreign landscape. You're this charming Venus that finds herself in a fiery,

 

masculine environment, completely different than to what she's used to.

Venus is primarily about having fun (of course it's also about beauty, art,

love, romances, etc.). And you have a sanguine, airy ascendant - friendly,

human, curious, etc.

 

In fact, now I'm wondering if sidereal Libra as such has anything to do with

 

tropical Scorpio... maybe that it's the exaltation sign of Saturn, that

gives some seriousness to it. But actually this is something that I have to

think. Both your ascendant and moon are in airy signs, and if we believe

ancient Western astrologers (like I usually do), then air is a warm and

moist and sanguine element: sensitive, kind, social, getting easily excited,

 

etc.

 

I don't personally think that the latter signs would be more " evolved " or

mature than the early signs, someone else may think otherwise.

 

You wrote:

 

> Seriously, there is an eternal child within me that I cherish. You

> probably cannot see that with my Saturn in the 4th house signature, which

> gave me responsibilities very early in life (taking care of 5 younger

> siblings and being single mom for many years), but from the tropical

> perspective, I have the Aries stellium in the 5th house of children.

 

Sari:

 

Using Vehlow houses your Saturn is between the 4th and the 5th houses,

slightly more in the 5th house, if the birth time is exact. That might

explain the responsibilities regarding children - Saturn is also quite

strong being in its own sign Aquarius, therefore strong responsibilities.

Jupiter, the ruler of the 3rd equal house cusp of siblings is applying

Saturn in sextile, so you've had to take care of your younger siblings. But

maybe this fun-loving side and the eternal child could come from Venus that

represents you in the chart? Also the Moon in airy Gemini of course, and

with Rahu! The Moon and Venus are two planets that aspect your ascendant, so

 

they have a lot to say about your personality, and both are soft and

feminine planets by nature.

 

Best, Sari