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> Many thanks for this, Therese..!!!!.........Warmly, John

>

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> Therese Hamilton wrote:

>>

>> At 08:31 PM 5/27/08 -0400, John wrote:

>> >Hello You Two:

>> >

>> >Thank you both for the many and informative postings I've read from

>> each

>> >of you on various groups over a long period of time. I do not post too

>> >much, but having you both here on a topic of great interest to me -

>> well

>> >you've forced me to give up my 'lurker' status.

>> >

>> >Do either of you know why a precessed tropical SolRet comes out with

>> >different angles than a sidereal SolRet? I just cannot wrap my mind

>> >around there being three possible Solar Returns.

>> >

>> >Warmly, John

>> >========================

>>

>> Hello John,

>>

>> Welcome out of lurker-ville! There are only two kinds of solar return:

>>

>> (1) Tropical, which is *always* precessed because the tropical zodiac

>> is a

>> precessed zodiac.

>>

>> (2) Sidereal or precession-corrected tropical. These two charts are the

>> same in that the planets will be exactly the same in distance from the

>> angles. But of course the signs will be different since two zodiac

>> systems

>> are used. The precession corrected tropical chart removes the accumulated

>> precession, so the timing of the chart should be *exactly* the same

>> as the

>> sidereal return. Same time, different zodiac signs and degrees.

>>

>> Up until the latest version of Solar Fire (Solar Fire Gold), Solar Fire

>> mis-labeled return charts and called the precession corrected tropical

>> chart 'precessed.' After consultation with Astrolabe and Esoteric

>> Technologies, the parent company of Solar Fire, this labeling has been

>> corrected. The precession corrected tropical chart is now labeled as

>> such.

>> The corrected chart matches the sidereal.

>>

>> Hope this helps!

>>

>> Therese

>>

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Thanks for this D*S. I will admit it, you are stretching me out, here.

 

Warmly, John

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Dark Star wrote:

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> I do returns for birthplace and let the Relocates bleed through them.

> I've done much major Bush from his front porch at Crawford. You might

> have a look at his 911 solar return there. Last week I did a return that

> was brilliant to event at a location (not BP) where its owner hadn't

> lived for 50 years, but the terroir remembered.

>

> Dark*Star

> _____________________________

> " Dr. John D. Andre " wrote:

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> >

> > I have to ask you two, how much residual influence do you see from the

> >

> > natal birth place bleeding through onto the lives of people who have

> > moved from their birth place many years before?

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