Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hypothetically speaking, if the rotation pole of the earth where to shift rapidly, the equinox would not change, those are as they are do to the shape of the earth orbit around the earth. not its rotation motion. the relation of the rotation motion to the yearly motion about the sun produces the location of the tropics. technically speaking. the Sub Solar Point. the tropics would be displaced relative to the known topography of the earth. the angle with which the ecliptic meats the horizon would shift for all localities on earth. cartographically speaking, If a mercator chart of the sidereal sphere where drawn before and after the mythical event of Pole shift, a definite change would occur. the current undulation of the ecliptic, below and above the sidereal Equator would be more or less pronounced. Before We get side tracked, I will say that there the idea that the rotation pole could shift is very difficult to support. the amount of energy required to accomplish this is proportional to the weight of the entire planet. As the earth rotates it conserves its rotational moment. This is expressed as the velocity of rotation times the weight of the earth. This product points to a very large amount of energy embodied in the earths rotation as we know it now. The energy involved in the rotation of the planet can be redistributed very slowly. The the redistribution of mass over time, is Work. It can be accomplished in small increments over geologic time. It is imaginable but unreasonable to propose that a large shift in the rotational axis of the planet can occur over a generation. Physically it wold require an amount of energy that surpasses many times the energy already involved in the rotation of the earth as it is know. Where would the weight in motion be found to change the earth rotation if not in earth is self? thus geographical pole shift is a hallucination. Take Mars as an example: The rotation pole of Mars has been modeled with detailed mathematical models of its measured physical attributes. these models have been observed to tilt over millennia. mars rotation axis wonders over many millennia! Planetary geologist have deduced that it once lay, for long periods of time forty degrees or so, from its current location . Mars has a slightly erratic orbit. its sidereal period varies. Its orbital eccentricity is the highest in the solar system. nine times greater than Earth. It is also a third of Earths mass. Mars has a very large basin in its current southern hemisphere. Its an enormous impact crater. across the planetary center, on the opposite hemisphere we find the largest set of volcanic cones in the solar system. Mt. Olympus is part of it. An enormous amount of energy was pumped in to mars by a collision of planetary scale. that energy caused a slightly erratic behavior of the orbit of mars and the bulge and volcanoes on the opposite side. Cataclysmic eternal cause! Just as a thought experiment. try to imagine the proportions and the magnitude of the numbers involved! On the other hand, I have seen the reports in the scientific literature that point to the Earth having an inner and an outer core which rotate at slightly different rates below the mantel of the planet. The crust is above the mantel and it is what we climb and drive around. This compound core is only been indirectly observed through the measurement of arrival times of seismic waves. we can not be certain how this fact relates specifically to the magnetic dynamo of the planet. in actuality it may in deed be part of the mechanism that generates the magnetic field of the planet. this field does in dead shift and flip. there is a well studied record and reconstruction of the magnetic field reversals of planet earth. Currently the magnetic pole location, relative to the geography has been in greater rate of motion than ever observed. our observation are only little more than a century old. the considerations of mass and moment of rotation still hod here. I have also seen recent observations that have detected a tube of magnetic energy that stretched from the sun to the earth much like a gourd has a vine of its top. this is something that the very latest research using coordinated spacecraft flying sensitive magnetometers through and around the magnetosphere of the earth. We can not be certain how this affects the magnetic pole reversal of the earth. the magnetotail and magnetosphere of the earth is a energetic reality that astrologers do not track. this is a laps of consciousness in sidereal astrology that has to be remedied. If we are going to express our inner perceptions with the term " Energy " we should use it carefully and account for all the invisible energy incidents about observable human events. Another consequence of the mythical geographic pole shift would be an alteration the angle between the Ecliptic and the local horizon. in my research, this is a very significant thing. In natural terms this angle determines the climate for all localities on earth. it may score the souls of all earth born creatures. the astrological effect of this Planetary geometry is not observed because the ecliptic latitude of planets is not observed systematically along with its ecliptic longitude. This is an unsuspected flaw in sidereal astrology that must be remedied. Once again I call attention to this fact with the out most seriousness and concern. Another consequence of a mythical geographical pole shift is the alteration of the sub lunar point. the moon would continue to orbit as it does, regardless of the orientation of the earth rotation axis. the orbit of the moon hangs on the center of mass of the planet earth. the earth and the moon share a center of gravity that is not a the center of rotation of the earth. it is displaced. The pull of the moon over the eons at the earth has shifted the mantel and establishes a beaten path. Once the sub lunar point is shifted away from this establishes zone of stability a new zone of geological stability with in the mantle and crust would have to be worn in by countless lunar orbits along a new sub lunar swath. Many millions of years later and many, many earthquakes later things would calm down. but this is a silly hypothetical scenario. on the other hand the sublunar point and the co-center of mass of the Earth-Moon system is a true and dynamic phenomena that may affect the gravitational and magnetic environment of the earth. It may affect the earth magnetic Dynamo. this fact and the continuous interaction of the magneto-sheath of the Earth with the solar wind and the solar corona may be significant factors in the incarnation of human beings in to physical bodies. this to should be studied and clarified. there are a variety of astrological indicators which we have inherited from a historical period of dimmer physical science that may unsuspectingly track these geophysical and astrophysical realities. Ignacio ________________________________ Therese Hamilton <eastwest Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:25:15 PM The Zodiac and a Pole Shift Hi everyone, Just now I had an interesting phone conversation with my granddaughter who's a student at U.C. Santa Cruz on the California coast. She said there has been a lot of talk among students of the predicted geographic pole shift with a target date of 2012 or before. There are a number of books on this topic, the shift being predicted by Edgar Cayce and many others. One noted author who has much to say about the shift is Ruth Montgomery ('Strangers Among Us' and 'The World to Come'). Just supposing something like this would happen, would this change the dates of the equinoxes and solstices (that is, the start of the tropical zodiac) or only change the climate around the globe? The equator is supposed to shift its position during the predicted pole shift. Is there anyone on this forum well versed in astronomy who can answer this question? Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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