Planetary Enemies (was Aquarian Astro Twins)

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--- On Mon, 8/24/09, Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote:

 

 

Therese Hamilton <eastwest

Planetary Enemies (was Re: Aquarian Astro Twins)

 

Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:30 PM

 

 

 

At 01:40 PM 8/23/09 -0700, liberator_9 wrote:

 

>>I see, yes, Mercury doesn't do well in Cancer, ruled by the Moon, but the

Moon has no problem in Gemini or Virgo, both signs ruled by Mercury.

 

>Hi Stephen,

 

>Actually there are two things going on here. Each planet has friends,

enemies and neutrals. Then secondly each ascendant sign has benefic and

malefic planets. These aren't the same thing.

 

Hi, Therese, of course they are not the same thing,

 

>The Moon can be in any sign and if aspecting Mercury, it's said to be bad

for Mercury. But how Mercury in Cancer acts depends on its house position

and aspects. It's true that Mercury is a malefic for Cancer rising, but

that's because Gemini is on the 12th cusp, so Mercury rules the 12th (and

3rd). Jyotish alwasys distinguishes between planetary aspects and planets

in signs.

 

But still, Jyotish often makes note when a planet is in an enemies' sign,

regardless what sign the ascendant is in. So, by itself, Mercury is in an

enemies' sign, and wouldn't do as well if it were in a friend's sign, like one

ruled by Venus or Saturn.

 

>The same principle applies to Jupiter and Mercury. In Jyotish the only

really bad sign for a planet is the sign of its fall (thus, Capricorn for

Jupiter and Pisces for Mercury) where it gets zero points (in the degree of

its fall) while gaining the maxium points in the degree of its exaltation.

However, there are other ways a planet can be well placed, so the sign

postion may not be so important. This is especially true for the slow

moving planets.

 

No, like I said, if a planet is in an enemies' sign, it is not so good. But, it

is not as bad as if it were in it's fallen sign. A planet can be well placed or

ill placed by sign, but the degree numbers do place an important emphasis. Many

times after a planet has past it's exaltation degree, it can be moolatrikona,

which is also good. If it is in it's friend's house it is called mitrasthana. I

forget what a planet in an enemies' sign is called..

 

>Western astrology, however considers a planet in detriment (opposite to its

own sign) to be poorly placed.

 

Jyotish likes it because it is aspecting it's own sign.

 

>I **still** keep tables of these positions on my desk when studying

horoscopes. Many years ago I was at one of James Braha's lectures, and he

was also using a " cheat sheet " for all those different sign and ascendant

positions.

 

Yeah, if one is in heavy duty research the head can fill up in time, and a cheat

sheet can become necessary.

 

Stephen