Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Dark Star, you are also correct in my opinion. This fits with what I am beginning to suspect after a decade pursuing the Tropical-Sidereal question: they both are valid but represent important differences in how we have to see and use them. Permit me to let my imagination run a bit wild here: ** The Sidereal Zodiac, as a term, is overly wrapped up in the Fagan mystic and crazy/multiplicity of charts advocated/experimented with by Fagan and now carried on by the slavish-focused Sidereal community (such as it still exists) that doesn't seem to think for itself. ** The sidereal environment is an " occult " condition where ideas create energy which creates physical situations. The star environment represents a collective and universal mind. We can see that through astrological (and other) symbolisms. We can use the outer planet conjunction cycles to map the major shifts in what the world will take on. These shifts can be said to be the consciousness of a few seed-minds (aka, people who do something extreme, people who are in position to create and initiate policy, people who represent nations and large groups who make decisions). They act as a means of bringing the universal flow of ideas and energy into the physical world. ** The Tropical Zodiac is a representation of the cultural mind-set of the world and larger communities of people. It shows us when and how the thoughts-energies-actions-policies-decisions made by an influential few emerge to bring change (and growth and development, hopefully) to us all. Therese's claim of a prior event/time/action that set things in motion is a possible example of the " physical starting point " of the current problems with finance and government. Your note that it all came to " light " with Pluto approaching and entering Capricorn fits well with the cultural/mass experience that we are all living with and adapting to today. I writing a hypothesis and outline for testing these ideas. They may need to be restated and heavily refined, but you can get the gist of my idea of how the two zodiacs seem to interact and may be used in a productive way --- eliminating the old my-way versus your-way argument. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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