Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Dear Bejoy, This is  nice that you asked this question.I will try to explain in a simple way. Each star in the sky has a proper motion. These stars are  moving in all direction but in very slow motion i.e about 0.002 sec per year. The motion of each star though very slow but vary star to star. As these star are very far in the sky ,they appear almost fixed at a given location . Each star has longitude and latitude. By continuous observation since ancient Vadic days , it was found that the longitudes of all stars are increasing at a constant rate, though their is no change in their latitudes. Astronomers considered two options: 1The stars are moving but the movement of all stars are mostly identical which was impossible. So this option was discarded 2. The first point of Tropical Aries (which is the intersection of ecliptic and celestial    equator) is shifting backwards .They also observed there was no appreciable change in the latitudes of the stars. So they came to the conclusions that celestial equator and first point of the Aeries were moving in such a way that the longitudes of the stars were increasing. It clarifies that the vernal equinox is moving backward. The precession of equinoxes is mainly due to the attraction of sun and moon on the protuberant portions of the earth at the equator. the result is that the earth has a slow 'wobbling' motion, so that the point in the heavens (the celestial pole) describes  a small circle of about 47degree angular diameter round the pole of the ecliptic. this results also in change in the identity of the Polar Star from one era to another.  When the attracting body reaches its greatest north or south declination, the disturbance is greatest and zero when they are on the celestial equator. the luni-solar precession is in the ratio of 7:3 i.e., effect of moon's attraction is more than twice that of sun i.e, two thirds of the whole. The total of the two effects amounts to about 50'.35 yearly while that of planetary precession if 0'.11 annually. The mean net annual precession which is also called general precession is about 50 " .24 each year, on the average.  As the distances of the attracting bodies i.e. Sun, Moon,Planets, Asteroids, Comets etc changes, the value of precession changes. The circle on the celestial sphere is of only 47 degree diameter and takes 25,800 years to complete.  Its effect are important. Due to shifting of poles, the celestial equator also moves and in turn the position of vernal equinox that is the first point of Aries changes.  NUTATION  the effect of Sun's and Moon's attraction are not constant. moons is sometimes above and sometimes below the ecliptic and therefore its pull on the equatorial bulge of the earth is not always in the same direction as that of sun which results in the nodding of the celestial pole to and from the pole of the ecliptic. This nodding is called the nutation. The result is that the precession is some  times more and at other times less than its mean value by about 9 seconds of arc to either side in a period of 18 years 220 days or say 18 2/3 years in which moon's nodes make complete revolution in the heavens. Thus True Ayanamsa of any epoch may be defined as under: True Ayanamsa=Mean Ayanamsa +/- Nutation in longitude As you may have seen in my article that modern Astronomy had recalculated the constants, the old basis has completely transformed. Regards,   G.K.GOEL Bejoy <bejoy_cs Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Sunday, 7 September, 2008 5:10:19 PM Re: Precession Hi Goel Saab, After reading your write up, some doubts remain. One theory says that the precession of equinox ( PoE ) is happening due to Luni Solar wobble - that the sun and the moon is exerting differential pull along the equatorial bulge and the poles causing the equinox to precess w.r.to back ground stars and as a result, the equinox - say if its happening in Aries in AD 2000 will precess to pisces and moves west ward since and will be back in Aries in 25920 earth years. But another theory proposed by Sri. Yukteswar says that our sun is orbiting another object with an orbital period of 25920 earth years deep in space and this is why the background stars shift. Which one will you endorse. Regards Bejoy. --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 > Re: Precession > bejoy_cs > Thursday, August 28, 2008, 11:18 AM > Dear Bejoy, >  I am  not able to understand your quetion > In Astronomy there are no assumptions , but a sound basis > is adopted > on factual observations as understood and known till now. > I am attaching my article which contains the reply. > After you will go through it , I will try to give further > clarifications as needed. > Regards, > >  G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > Bejoy <bejoy_cs > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 > Thursday, 28 August, 2008 4:02:19 PM > Re: Precession > > Dear Goel Saab, > > Which stream of thought would you endorse on the precession > of equinox - is it the luni solar wobble or that the Sun is > taking an orbit ? > > Regards > > Bejoy. > www.keraladarsan.com --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Gopal Goel > <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 > > Re: Axial and Geographic poles > > bejoy_cs > > Sunday, August 24, 2008, 5:29 AM > > Dear Bejoy, > > I may suggest you may read any preliminary book on > > Astronomy. > > This will enable you to understand terminology and > > significance of these words. > > We conceive a celestial sphere which expanded in the > sky > > and is replica of earth. > > All longitudinal angular distances are measured on > > celestial ecliptic plane. > > Similarly , a perpendicular is dropped on this plane > from > > celestial pole or any celestial body. > > Regards, > >  G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > Bejoy <bejoy_cs > > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 > > Sunday, 24 August, 2008 1:00:17 PM > > Re: Axial and Geographic poles > > > > Hi Goel Saab, > > > > Sorry for not communicating clearly. While at the > equator > > on the equinox of March 21, which part of the earth > aligns > > with the Sun .. is it the geographical pole or the > axial > > pole ? I know poles are at 90 degrees but if you draw > a > > perpendicular line from the pole ... is it the line > from the > > geographical pole or the line form the axial pole that > > touches the Sun ? > > > > Regards > > > > Bejoy. > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Gopal Goel > > <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > > > > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 > > > Re: Axial and Geographic poles > > > bejoy_cs > > > Saturday, August 23, 2008, 4:43 AM > > > Dear Bejo, y, > > > Equinoxes occur on celestal equator , Solstice > occor > > on > > > Line of cancer and Capricorn. > > > They do not occur on poles. > > > Regards, > > > > > >  G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bejoy <bejoy_cs > > > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 > > > Thursday, 21 August, 2008 8:24:30 PM > > > Axial and Geographic poles > > > > > > Hi Goel Saab, > > > > > > Thanks indeed. > > > > > > One more Question ... > > > > > > On March 21, on equjinox --- which point of earth > is > > > exactly aligning itself with the Sun ? > > > > > > Is it the geographical north pole ... > > > > > > or is it the Axial north pole which is tilted at > 23 > > degrees > > > ? > > > > > > Please advise. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bejoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Gopal Goel > > > <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > > > > > > Gopal Goel > <gkgoel1937 > > > > Re: Rahu & ketu > > > > bejoy_cs > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:52 AM > > > > Dear Bejoy, > > > > Definition of nodes : The two points on the > > celestial > > > > sphere at which the plane of an orbit of > any > > > rotating > > > > celestial object intersects a reference > plane ( > > > ecliptic). > > > > The axis of Moon is inclined by about 5 deg > on > > the > > > axis of > > > > Earth. Thus in respect of the Moon, > > > > these two points are known as Rahu > (Ascending > > Node) > > > and > > > > Ketu ( Descending Node). > > > > Like Equinoxes , these nodes also recede and > > complete > > > one > > > > round of the Zodiac in 18.60 sidereal years. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > >  G.K.GOEL > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bejoy <bejoy_cs > > > > gkgoel1937 > > > > Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 3:44:54 PM > > > > Rahu & ketu > > > > > > > > Hi Goel Saab, > > > > > > > > Bejoy with you again. Could you please > advise me > > how > > > Rahu > > > > & ketu are mathematically calculated. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Bejoy. > > > > > > > > > > > >   Connect with friends all over the > world. > > Get > > > > > > > India Messenger at > > > http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > >   Add more friends to your messenger and > enjoy! > > Go to > > > http://in.messenger./invite/ > > > > > >   Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it > now, on > > > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > > >   Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear Bejoy, Equinox always recede on ecliptic , thus its declination is always Zero deg. This is called V.E. point which recedes at a mean rate of 50'.3 sec every year. (This precession rate is without taking into account Nutation which vary year to year within +/-9sec) The present Obliquity of the eclipse is 23deg26'25 " .Latitude of Solstice's will be equivalent to obliquity of earth axis with the axis of Sun.This is not effected with the precession of Equinox's. The V.E.POINT always defined as first point of Tropical Aries. The initial point of Sidereal Zodiac ,which commences from the initial point of Nakshatra Aswani and most of the Astrologer believe that this point is at 180deg opposite to Star Chitra (Spica 16).When you say it will enter in over 6000 years from now in sign Capricorn , this only means that V.E . point will recede into Sidereal Capricorn. Regards   G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA Bejoy <bejoy_cs gkgoel1937 Monday, 8 September, 2008 5:22:01 PM Re: Precession Hi Goel Saab, Many thanks for this descriptive explanation. If precession completes 1 cycle in about 25920 years. In AD 2000,  If the equinox is in say Aries ( zero degree declination ) and the winter solistice is in Capricon ( -23 degree declination ) . So in AD 6480 ( 25920 / 4 ) , will the equinox be in Capricon ? If its in Capricon , in AD 6480 what will be the declination of the equinox point of earth - will it be zero degrees or -23 degrees ? Regards Bejoy. --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Re: Precession bejoy_cs Cc: " ancient indian astrology " Sunday, September 7, 2008, 11:07 AM Dear Bejoy, This is  nice that you asked this question.I will try to explain in a simple way. Each star in the sky has a proper motion. These stars are  moving in all direction but in very slow motion i.e about 0.002 sec per year. The motion of each star though very slow but vary star to star. As these star are very far in the sky ,they appear almost fixed at a given location . Each star has longitude and latitude. By continuous observation since ancient Vadic days , it was found that the longitudes of all stars are increasing at a constant rate, though their is no change in their latitudes. Astronomers considered two options: 1The stars are moving but the movement of all stars are mostly identical which was impossible. So this option was discarded 2. The first point of Tropical Aries (which is the intersection of ecliptic and celestial    equator) is shifting backwards .They also observed there was no appreciable change in the latitudes of the stars. So they came to the conclusions that celestial equator and first point of the Aeries were moving in such a way that the longitudes of the stars were increasing. It clarifies that the vernal equinox is moving backward. The precession of equinoxes is mainly due to the attraction of sun and moon on the protuberant portions of the earth at the equator. the result is that the earth has a slow 'wobbling' motion, so that the point in the heavens (the celestial pole) describes  a small circle of about 47degree angular diameter round the pole of the ecliptic. this results also in change in the identity of the Polar Star from one era to another.  When the attracting body reaches its greatest north or south declination, the disturbance is greatest and zero when they are on the celestial equator. the luni-solar precession is in the ratio of 7:3 i.e., effect of moon's attraction is more than twice that of sun i.e, two thirds of the whole. The total of the two effects amounts to about 50'.35 yearly while that of planetary precession if 0'.11 annually. The mean net annual precession which is also called general precession is about 50 " .24 each year, on the average.  As the distances of the attracting bodies i.e. Sun, Moon,Planets, Asteroids, Comets etc changes, the value of precession changes. The circle on the celestial sphere is of only 47 degree diameter and takes 25,800 years to complete.  Its effect are important. Due to shifting of poles, the celestial equator also moves and in turn the position of vernal equinox that is the first point of Aries changes.  NUTATION  the effect of Sun's and Moon's attraction are not constant. moons is sometimes above and sometimes below the ecliptic and therefore its pull on the equatorial bulge of the earth is not always in the same direction as that of sun which results in the nodding of the celestial pole to and from the pole of the ecliptic. This nodding is called the nutation. The result is that the precession is some  times more and at other times less than its mean value by about 9 seconds of arc to either side in a period of 18 years 220 days or say 18 2/3 years in which moon's nodes make complete revolution in the heavens. Thus True Ayanamsa of any epoch may be defined as under: True Ayanamsa=Mean Ayanamsa +/- Nutation in longitude As you may have seen in my article that modern Astronomy had recalculated the constants, the old basis has completely transformed. Regards,   G.K.GOEL Bejoy <bejoy_cs > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sunday, 7 September, 2008 5:10:19 PM Re: Precession Hi Goel Saab, After reading your write up, some doubts remain. One theory says that the precession of equinox ( PoE ) is happening due to Luni Solar wobble - that the sun and the moon is exerting differential pull along the equatorial bulge and the poles causing the equinox to precess w.r.to back ground stars and as a result, the equinox - say if its happening in Aries in AD 2000 will precess to pisces and moves west ward since and will be back in Aries in 25920 earth years. But another theory proposed by Sri. Yukteswar says that our sun is orbiting another object with an orbital period of 25920 earth years deep in space and this is why the background stars shift. Which one will you endorse. Regards Bejoy. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear Bejoy, Equinox always recede on ecliptic , thus its declination is always Zero deg. This is called V.E. point which recedes at a mean rate of 50'.3 sec every year. (This precession rate is without taking into account Nutation which vary year to year within +/-9sec) The present Obliquity of the eclipse is 23deg26'25".Latitude of Solstice's will be equivalent to obliquity of earth axis with the axis of Sun.This is not effected with the precession of Equinox's. The V.E.POINT always defined as first point of Tropical Aries. The initial point of Sidereal Zodiac ,which commences from the initial point of Nakshatra Aswani and most of the Astrologer believe that this point is at 180deg opposite to Star Chitra (Spica 16).When you say it will enter in over 6000 years from now in sign Capricorn , this only means that V.E . point will recede into Sidereal Capricorn. Regards G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Bejoy <bejoy_csgkgoel1937Sent: Monday, 8 September, 2008 5:22:01 PMRe: Precession Hi Goel Saab, Many thanks for this descriptive explanation. If precession completes 1 cycle in about 25920 years. In AD 2000, If the equinox is in say Aries ( zero degree declination ) and the winter solistice is in Capricon ( -23 degree declination ) . So in AD 6480 ( 25920 / 4 ) , will the equinox be in Capricon ? If its in Capricon , in AD 6480 what will be the declination of the equinox point of earth - will it be zero degrees or -23 degrees ? Regards Bejoy. --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Re: Precessionbejoy_csCc: "ancient indian astrology" Sunday, September 7, 2008, 11:07 AM Dear Bejoy,This is nice that you asked this question.I will try to explain in a simple way.Each star in the sky has a proper motion. These stars are moving in all directionbut in very slow motion i.e about 0.002 sec per year. The motion of each star though very slow but vary star to star. As these star are very far in the sky ,they appear almost fixed at a given location . Each star has longitude and latitude.By continuous observation since ancient Vadic days , it was found that the longitudes ofall stars are increasing at a constant rate, though their is no change in their latitudes.Astronomers considered two options:1The stars are moving but the movement of all stars are mostly identical which was impossible. So this option was discarded2. The first point of Tropical Aries (which is the intersection of ecliptic and celestial equator) is shifting backwards .They also observed there was no appreciable change in the latitudes of the stars. So they came to the conclusions that celestial equator and first point of the Aeries were moving in such a way that the longitudes of the stars were increasing. It clarifies that the vernal equinox is moving backward. The precession of equinoxes is mainly due to the attraction of sun and moon on the protuberant portions of the earth at the equator. the result is that the earth has a slow 'wobbling' motion, so that the point in the heavens (the celestial pole) describes a small circle of about 47degree angular diameter round the pole of the ecliptic. this results also in change in the identity of the Polar Star from one era to another. When the attracting body reaches its greatest north or south declination, the disturbance is greatest and zero when they are on the celestial equator. the luni-solar precession is in the ratio of 7:3 i.e., effect of moon's attraction is more than twice that of sun i.e, two thirds of the whole. The total of the two effects amounts to about 50'.35 yearly while that of planetary precession if 0'.11 annually. The mean net annual precession which is also called general precession is about 50".24 each year, on the average. As the distances of the attracting bodies i.e. Sun, Moon,Planets, Asteroids, Comets etc changes, the value of precession changes. The circle on the celestial sphere is of only 47 degree diameter and takes 25,800 years to complete. Its effect are important. Due to shifting of poles, the celestial equator also moves and in turn the position of vernal equinox that is the first point of Aries changes. NUTATION the effect of Sun's and Moon's attraction are not constant. moons is sometimes above and sometimes below the ecliptic and therefore its pull on the equatorial bulge of the earth is not always in the same direction as that of sun which results in the nodding of the celestial pole to and from the pole of the ecliptic. This nodding is called the nutation. The result is that the precession is some times more and at other times less than its mean value by about 9 seconds of arc to either side in a period of 18 years 220 days or say 18 2/3 years in which moon's nodes make complete revolution in the heavens.Thus True Ayanamsa of any epoch may be defined as under:True Ayanamsa=Mean Ayanamsa +/- Nutation in longitudeAs you may have seen in my article that modern Astronomy had recalculatedthe constants, the old basis has completely transformed.Regards, G.K.GOELBejoy <bejoy_cs >Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Sunday, 7 September, 2008 5:10:19 PMRe: PrecessionHi Goel Saab,After reading your write up, some doubts remain.One theory says that the precession of equinox ( PoE ) is happening due to Luni Solar wobble - that the sun and the moon is exerting differential pull along the equatorial bulge and the poles causing the equinox to precess w.r.to back ground stars and as a result, the equinox - say if its happening in Aries in AD 2000 will precess to pisces and moves west ward since and will be back in Aries in 25920 earth years.But another theory proposed by Sri. Yukteswar says that our sun is orbiting another object with an orbital period of 25920 earth years deep in space and this is why the background stars shift.Which one will you endorse.RegardsBejoy. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 At 05:28 AM 3/22/2010 -0400, Diana wrote: >Therese wrote: >I've become totally intrigued with the binary theory for our sun because it >means the equinoxes are stable (no precession) but the sidereal sky is >moving as our solar system curves through space. This has major >implications for the study of the stars and constellations in relation to >zodiac signs... > >Diana wrote: >It really all depends on your viewpoint - what's happening is not that the >equinoxes and solstices move, per se, it's just that they occur 50 seconds >of a degree >earlier each year in relation to the background of the stars. Actually, from the point of view of astronomers (not necessarily astrologers), the equinoxes precess along the ecliptic. The reason I'm staying with this topic is to highlight the difference between standard precessional theory and the binary model. From a U.C. Berkeley site (Beth Napier): " The Earth's precession causes the Equinoxes to move with respect to he background constellations of the Zodiac. Because of the Earth's precession, the dates of the Equinoxes gradually change over a 26,000 year cycle... " >It is the Earth's slight wobble that leads to that effect, which we call > " precession " . You could say >that, from that point of view, it is the tropical zodiac that is " fixed " >and the sidereal zodiac that " moves " . This is what Walter Cruttenden and his supporters are questioning: they say that so-called " precession " isn't due to an earth wobble, but to the movement of the solar system through space. In that case, it would indeed be the sidereal system that is " precessing. " The inter-solar system (earth-Sun) would be stable and fixed except for a small amount of nutation with the binary theory. The equinoxes would not be creeping backward at all. It would just look like they were to us. Precession as it's understood now is a local Sun-earth system. Precession with the binary theory is a cosmic movement--the entire solar system is moving. So my question was, " If the binary model is correct, and the sidereal zodiac works in practice, then the influences must somehow be pinned to the stars and constellations. " The planets would be the carriers of the stellar influence. No one debates that the alignment of the equinoxes against the stars continues to change with the ages. The question is (according to Cruttenden and other proponents of the binary theory) is whether this continuing change is due to an earth wobble or the entire solar system curving through space. Both would look the same to us, but the two possibilities are radically different >The stars don't define the tropical signs. The stars define the sidereal >signs... >The tropics i.e. the solstices and equinoxes, define the tropical signs. In India they use the nakshatras to help define signs. At different times on this forum we've hashed over where sign influences might be coming from in either zodiac. I'm leaning toward the stars. But from the tropical point of view which does not consider the stars, what is the theoretical source of influence of the signs? We have the ecliptic and 30 degree sign divisions measured from the vernal equinox. Where do the various sign influences come from? Diana wrote: So, gradually over millennia, the tropical signs have been moving backward >over the the original sky-pictures. The tropical zodiac's signs just >happened to have >kept the names of the constellations they once lined up with, which as we >all know, has >ended up causing all sorts of confusion and consternation (and mockery >from astronomers). >Which, for instance, is the real Aries? The star pattern of the Ram? Or the >1st 30 degrees counting from the Vernal Equinox? And today some would say that both are fictional. I didn't mean to make this a zodiac discussion especially. But I am very interested in **what** causes the sky-equinox difference over the centuries. Earth wobble or solar system movement? That's the key question that eventually would have ramifications for astrology. Diana wrote: >I have discovered that putting the two systems together is dynamite, and >each combined sign (whether you call it Aries-Pisces or Pisces-Aries, for >instance) gives depth >and complexityto an individual's chart. I was born Apr 9, 1933, 10:13 AM >EST, New >Rochelle, NY; tropically I have a stellium in Aries in the 10th, >sidereally an even larger >stellium in Pisces.I have the Aries impulsiveness and fierce independence, >the Piscean >imagination, fearfulness and hypersensitivity. Sidereal signs have totally different meanings than their tropical counterparts, but that's another discussion. >Right now it's the Aries that is to the fore, because I have had to >battle doctors and family members who want me to go the route of radiation >and chemo, and at the same time fight people who want me to change my book. I'm very glad you haven't gone the radiaton/chemo route! No matter what the " powers that be " believe, that's not the way to be cured of anything in my opinion. >If I was all Pisces I don't think I'd have the strength to do that. I >have always needed to " do my own thing " >and that's Arian, not Piscean. Actually it is sidereal Piscean, as per the myths of Neptune, a total non-conformist and rebel against his brother, Zeus. There's a lot of mis-information out there about the sidereal signs. But you have Sun with Uranus which is most likely going to go its own way in any sign of the zodiac. >Yes, [my book] is three volumes - the index alone will take up most of the >3rd. I know >that this will make it costly, but I believe and hope that astrologers >will find it worth the >expense. It's 30 years of research, and goes way beyond anything >available - there are stars for every >degree (chosen froma base of more than 2,500), DSO's (Deep Space Objects >like black holes, >etc), new interpretations,a huge amount of mundane material (quakes, >volcanoes, battles, historical >events, etc etc), lunar mansions.... .....which alone would be valuable for any astrologer. Congratulations in finding a good graphics designer. Yes, I've seen the cover--very striking! I like it. >Oh - I forgot to mention - I have added the (Lahiri) sidereal degree of >each star to the book so siderealists >won't have to struggle with " translating " each position. That is really important. We thank you!!! 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