Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Sir, Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then given, Fixed or Cardinal ? Regards, Bhaskar. , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl. > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality " . > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro wrote: > Dear Kanakji, > Thankyou for your clarification > Regards > Sankar > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Sankar ji, > > thanks for your opinion. > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers about multiple marriage: > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > (1) > Page no:83 > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping dual sign more > then one wife. > Page no: 181: > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is in dual sign or > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise. > Page no: 182. > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the only rule to be > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord is either MER > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the constellation of a planet in > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > page 165 > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > simultaneously satisfied: > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > marriage is denied. > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11. > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this chart indicate multipal marriage. > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > hope it help > regards > kanak > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro wrote: > Dear Kanakji, > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > For your kind information I will give a chart information > Please try to find dual action of virgo > This person 3 times married > Only Virgo given the results > > Details is > DOB:02.08.1965 > TOB:05.45.00 > POB:CHIRALA > > Regards > Sankar > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double body. > it is clear after this mail thanks. > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > regards > kanak > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > Regards, > > tw > > P.S. > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341 > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs. > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > Dual Signs > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > Double-bodied Signs > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, such > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is that > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow the > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two states > of weather. " > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera: " The > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > rule is applicable. " > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality. " > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > Reader-2. > > Any comment? > > > > regards > > kanak > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > FareChase > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual. It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on page 108 of " Horary Astrology " in classification of signs. The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away from the previous one. Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS to be a dual sign. > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir, > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > wrote: > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl. > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality " . > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > Dear Kanakji, > > Thankyou for your clarification > > Regards > > Sankar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > about multiple marriage: > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > (1) > > Page no:83 > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > dual sign more > > then one wife. > > Page no: 181: > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > in dual sign or > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise. > > Page no: 182. > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > only rule to be > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > is either MER > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > constellation of a planet in > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > page 165 > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > simultaneously satisfied: > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > marriage is denied. > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11. > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > hope it help > > regards > > kanak > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > Dear Kanakji, > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > This person 3 times married > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > Details is > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > TOB:05.45.00 > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > Regards > > Sankar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > body. > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > regards > > kanak > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > P.S. > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341 > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs. > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > Dual Signs > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > such > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > that > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow the > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > states > > of weather. " > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > man, > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera: " The > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality. " > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > Reader-2. > > > Any comment? > > > > > > regards > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > FareChase > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 dear frends just sharing my views all sign of zodiac are uniformely divide zodiac or kalapursha has 4 chara rashi, 4 sthira, and 4 dwiswabha rashi, we have 3 fiery sign, 3 earthy sign, 3 airy and watery signs. we have 6 even sign and 6 odd sign, if i m not wrong meaning of common sign is very similar to or equal to dual sign. well what we may adopt is kanya though a dual sign its effects may be less compared to other sign. that may happen. mesha is a chara, as well as fiery sign, leo is sthira but a fiery sign so though both are fiery sign being char and sthira in nature intesity of fieryness is different likewise wud like to share that kanya being common sign may have lesser dual sign effect compared to dhanu or mithuna. regards ramesh_379 , Bhaskar Maheswari <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri Kanakji, > > Thanks for your observation. I have not give or formed any opinion about Kanya being a Dual sign. Maybe if in future number of horoscopes checked with Kanya as saptam Bhava significator and if given dual results in marriages > (2 marriages) or 5th Bhava connection and twins born, if repeated results come in most cases, then only can a opinion be formed practically, is what I believe. > I am speaking right now with keeping KP system appraoch in mind. > thank You. > Bhaskar. > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Kanya is not a Dual sign as Hasmukhbhai give details in his last two mail. also i check some books but i am not found kanya as dual sign. > If you found good result as kanya rasi consider as dual rasi then go ahead astrology have no limit but as per old books Kanya is not dual rasi. > > hope it help. > > regards > kanak > > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir, > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > wrote: > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl. > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality " . > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > Dear Kanakji, > > Thankyou for your clarification > > Regards > > Sankar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > about multiple marriage: > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > (1) > > Page no:83 > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > dual sign more > > then one wife. > > Page no: 181: > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > in dual sign or > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise. > > Page no: 182. > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > only rule to be > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > is either MER > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > constellation of a planet in > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > page 165 > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > simultaneously satisfied: > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > marriage is denied. > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11. > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > hope it help > > regards > > kanak > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > Dear Kanakji, > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > This person 3 times married > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > Details is > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > TOB:05.45.00 > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > Regards > > Sankar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > body. > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > regards > > kanak > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > P.S. > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341 > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs. > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > Dual Signs > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double- bodied > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > such > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > that > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow the > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > states > > of weather. " > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double- bodied > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > man, > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera: " The > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality. " > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > Reader-2. > > > Any comment? > > > > > > regards > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > FareChase > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinikwrote:>Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself onpage 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorialrepresentation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs awayfrom the previous one.Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HASto be a dual sign.> Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in atleast in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it isa negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it isa barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has beengiven as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the lightcannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > Regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > wrote:> >> > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > Dear Kanakji,> > Thankyou for your clarification> > Regards> > Sankar> > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > about multiple marriage:> > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > (1)> > Page no:83> > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > dual sign more > > then one wife.> > Page no: 181:> > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > in dual sign or > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > Page no: 182.> > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > only rule to be > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > is either MER > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > constellation of a planet in > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > page 165> > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > simultaneously satisfied:> > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > marriage is denied.> > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > hope it help> > regards> > kanak> > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > Dear Kanakji,> > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > This person 3 times married> > Only Virgo given the results> > > > Details is> > DOB:02.08.1965> > TOB:05.45.00> > POB:CHIRALA> > > > Regards> > Sankar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > body.> > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > regards> > kanak> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > P.S.> > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > Dual Signs> > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > Double-bodied Signs> > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > such > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > that > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > states > > of weather."> > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > man, > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear all,> > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > Reader-2.> > > Any comment?> > > > > > regards> > > kanak > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > FareChase > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me. So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book " Horary Astrology " on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what to make of it: " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs. .... Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility, plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile, changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. " From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo. Any other explanations are welcome. I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: > > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti. > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > wrote: > > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual. > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on > page 108 of " Horary Astrology " in classification of signs. > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away > from the previous one. > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS > to be a dual sign. > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir, > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > > > Regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl. > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality " . > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > Thankyou for your clarification > > > Regards > > > Sankar > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > about multiple marriage: > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > > (1) > > > Page no:83 > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > dual sign more > > > then one wife. > > > Page no: 181: > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > in dual sign or > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise. > > > Page no: 182. > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > only rule to be > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > is either MER > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > constellation of a planet in > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > > page 165 > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > simultaneously satisfied: > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > marriage is denied. > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11. > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > > > hope it help > > > regards > > > kanak > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > > This person 3 times married > > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > > > Details is > > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > > TOB:05.45.00 > > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > > > Regards > > > Sankar > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > body. > > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > > > regards > > > kanak > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341 > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs. > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > > > Dual Signs > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > such > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > that > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow the > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > states > > > of weather. " > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > man, > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera: " The > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality. " > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > Reader-2. > > > > Any comment? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Dear enlightened ones, I feel,from my personal experience,(not strictly as per K.P.,though,),that a dual sign-pair, consists of two different signs whose owner is the same Planet...Aries/Scorpio - Mars; Taurus/Libra - Venus; Gemini/Virgo - Mercury ;Pisces/Saggittarius - Jupiter ;and Capricorn/Aquarius - Sat ...and each sign,having it's own distinct signature... I have,some time ago,in a discussion with the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati...mentioned this experience of mine... I invite more readers to contribute their own experiences,rather than going simply 'by the book'...In the meanwhile...A question please...Does Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp indicate a single,though delayed,marriage ? OR, more than one marriage..? Am looking forward to replies/clarifications from senior practitioners of K.P.... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao.Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me.So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book "Horary Astrology"on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide whatto make of it:" Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs....Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility,plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile,changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. "From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signswhich are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo.Any other explanations are welcome.I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions soI'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinikwrote:>> No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning ofdual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by lateProf. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dualsigns. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles ofAstrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti.> Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote:> , Hasmukhrai Mehta<astroclinik@>> wrote:> >> > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.> It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on> page 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.> > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial> representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away> from the previous one.> > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS> to be a dual sign.> > > Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at> least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is> a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is> a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been> given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light> cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir,> > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > > > Regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > wrote:> > >> > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanakji,> > > Thankyou for your clarification> > > Regards> > > Sankar> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > about multiple marriage:> > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > > (1)> > > Page no:83> > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > dual sign more > > > then one wife.> > > Page no: 181:> > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > in dual sign or > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > > Page no: 182.> > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > only rule to be > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > is either MER > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > constellation of a planet in > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > > page 165> > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > simultaneously satisfied:> > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > marriage is denied.> > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > > > hope it help> > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanakji,> > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > > This person 3 times married> > > Only Virgo given the results> > > > > > Details is> > > DOB:02.08.1965> > > TOB:05.45.00> > > POB:CHIRALA> > > > > > Regards> > > Sankar > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > body.> > > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > P.S.> > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > > > Dual Signs> > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > > > Double-bodied Signs> > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > such > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > that > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > states > > > of weather."> > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > man, > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > Reader-2.> > > > Any comment?> > > > > > > > regards> > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Nobody can do anything if someone insists to stick to his belief or opinion. I do agree that in most of the Vedic astrological literature, no difference has been seen in the meaning of the terms: Common, Mutable and Dual signs. Perhaps it was Guruji KSK who defined the “Dual” sign for the first time where Virgo was not included in his definition of “Dual Signs”. Another authority, Mr K Subramaniam, s/o Prof. KSK and author of several KP books repeats this fact in his book, “Astrology for Beginners, Vol.2.” Moreover, at least three online astrological dictionaries do not include Virgo in the definition of “Dual signs”. These can be verified at the following web pages. http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html http://www.gotohoroscope.com/dictionary/astrological-B.html Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me.So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book "Horary Astrology"on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide whatto make of it:" Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs....Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility,plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile,changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. "From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signswhich are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo.Any other explanations are welcome.I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions soI'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinikwrote:>> No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning ofdual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by lateProf. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dualsigns. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles ofAstrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti.> Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote:> , Hasmukhrai Mehta<astroclinik@>> wrote:> >> > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.> It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on> page 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.> > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial> representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away> from the previous one.> > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS> to be a dual sign.> > > Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at> least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is> a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is> a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been> given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light> cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir,> > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > > > Regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > wrote:> > >> > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanakji,> > > Thankyou for your clarification> > > Regards> > > Sankar> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > about multiple marriage:> > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > > (1)> > > Page no:83> > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > dual sign more > > > then one wife.> > > Page no: 181:> > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > in dual sign or > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > > Page no: 182.> > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > only rule to be > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > is either MER > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > constellation of a planet in > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > > page 165> > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > simultaneously satisfied:> > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > marriage is denied.> > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > > > hope it help> > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanakji,> > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > > This person 3 times married> > > Only Virgo given the results> > > > > > Details is> > > DOB:02.08.1965> > > TOB:05.45.00> > > POB:CHIRALA> > > > > > Regards> > > Sankar > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > body.> > > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > P.S.> > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > > > Dual Signs> > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > > > Double-bodied Signs> > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > such > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > that > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > states > > > of weather."> > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > man, > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > Reader-2.> > > > Any comment?> > > > > > > > regards> > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 1) KP Reader II (1983) page 75 Dual signs Gemni (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and Pisces (meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality. 2) V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18: dual signs such as Mithuna, Dhanush or Meena. 3) Udaychandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60: GEMINI, SAGITTARIUS AND PISCES are dual signs. , " Padmanabh " <light_of_erindir wrote: > > > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me. > So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book " Horary Astrology " > on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what > to make of it: > > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs. > ... > > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility, > plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile, > changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. " > > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs > which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo. > > Any other explanations are welcome. > > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so > I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > wrote: > > > > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of > dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late > Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual > signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of > Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti. > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote: > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual. > > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on > > page 108 of " Horary Astrology " in classification of signs. > > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial > > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away > > from the previous one. > > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS > > to be a dual sign. > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at > > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is > > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is > > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been > > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light > > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir, > > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl. > > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality " . > > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > Thankyou for your clarification > > > > Regards > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > > about multiple marriage: > > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > > > (1) > > > > Page no:83 > > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > > dual sign more > > > > then one wife. > > > > Page no: 181: > > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > > in dual sign or > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise. > > > > Page no: 182. > > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > > only rule to be > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > > is either MER > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > > > page 165 > > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > > simultaneously satisfied: > > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > > marriage is denied. > > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11. > > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > > > > > hope it help > > > > regards > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > > > This person 3 times married > > > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > > > > > Details is > > > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > > > TOB:05.45.00 > > > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > > body. > > > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341 > > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs. > > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > > > > > Dual Signs > > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double- bodied > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > > such > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > > that > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow the > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > > states > > > > of weather. " > > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double- bodied > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > > man, > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera: " The > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality. " > > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > Reader-2. > > > > > Any comment? > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Dear members, This issue has taken too much time of the learned members wherein they must have had to search various books and locate the passages in question. It is not a great issue to waste time about. Differences of opinion would always be there .Whatever each finds as per his individual experience and is able to use his knowledge of these individual findings to predict succesfully, is enough, dosent matter what others view are. I request all of You to please concentrate on other issues and more important ones wherein technical ineteraction of other members is required. regards, Bhaskar. , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > 1) KP Reader II (1983) page 75 > > Dual signs > > Gemni (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and Pisces (meena) are called > twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality. > > 2) V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18: dual signs such as > Mithuna, Dhanush or Meena. > > 3) Udaychandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60: GEMINI, > SAGITTARIUS AND PISCES are dual signs. > > > > , " Padmanabh " > <light_of_erindir@> wrote: > > > > > > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than > me. > > So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book " Horary > Astrology " > > on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide > what > > to make of it: > > > > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs. > > ... > > > > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility, > > plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, > versatile, > > changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. " > > > > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs > > which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo. > > > > Any other explanations are welcome. > > > > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions > so > > I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. > > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning > of > > dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by > late > > Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of > dual > > signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of > > Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti. > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote: > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinik@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual. > > > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy > himself on > > > page 108 of " Horary Astrology " in classification of signs. > > > > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the > pictorial > > > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 > signs away > > > from the previous one. > > > > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence > Virgo HAS > > > to be a dual sign. > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes > in at > > > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, > it is > > > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and > it is > > > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has > been > > > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the > light > > > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual > signs. > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir, > > > > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two > things in > > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in > another > > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is > not > > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be > then > > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinik@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means > double > > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have > two > > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) > contains a > > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two > bodies, i.e. > > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a > horse. > > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol > contains two > > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a > girl. > > > > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, > page 75 > > > > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius > (Dhanus) and > > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning > plurality " . > > > > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > > Thankyou for your clarification > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other > work and > > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in > readers > > > > about multiple marriage: > > > > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > > > > (1) > > > > > Page no:83 > > > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet > occuping > > > > dual sign more > > > > > then one wife. > > > > > Page no: 181: > > > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord > situated is > > > > in dual sign or > > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is > promise. > > > > > Page no: 182. > > > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said > that the > > > > only rule to be > > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th > sublord > > > > is either MER > > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > > > > page 165 > > > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two > conditions are > > > > > simultaneously satisfied: > > > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a > dual > > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then > second > > > > > marriage is denied. > > > > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in > 11. > > > > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL > RASI. > > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya > rasi this > > > > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject > and if > > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > > > > > > > hope it help > > > > > regards > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > > > > This person 3 times married > > > > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > > > > > > > Details is > > > > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > > > > TOB:05.45.00 > > > > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have > double > > > > body. > > > > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL > signs > > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II > page 75, > > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, > Rangarajan > > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page > 18, Uday > > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs > including > > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page > 341 > > > > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable > signs. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > > > > > > > Dual Signs > > > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual > signs) > > > > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the > Twins. > > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) > and > > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins > etc., when > > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on > the > > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double- > bodied > > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with > two > > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at > once, > > > > such > > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > Pisces (two > > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on > the cusp > > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant > or when > > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist > is > > > > that > > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow > the > > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are > between the > > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as > it > > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the > two > > > > states > > > > > of weather. " > > > > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double- > bodied > > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its > symbol, the > > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius > (part > > > > man, > > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th > pera: " The > > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius > & > > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the > same > > > > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning > plurality. " > > > > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > > Reader-2. > > > > > > Any comment? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying > << > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Dear Hasmukhbhai, There is no meaning of this discussion bcoz all have own experiance, and thay want to go with it. I totaly agree with you that only sign with two body in picture is only dual rasi. regards KanakHasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: Nobody can do anything if someone insists to stick to his belief or opinion. I do agree that in most of the Vedic astrological literature, no difference has been seen in the meaning of the terms: Common, Mutable and Dual signs. Perhaps it was Guruji KSK who defined the “Dual” sign for the first time where Virgo was not included in his definition of “Dual Signs”. Another authority, Mr K Subramaniam, s/o Prof. KSK and author of several KP books repeats this fact in his book, “Astrology for Beginners, Vol.2.” Moreover, at least three online astrological dictionaries do not include Virgo in the definition of “Dual signs”. These can be verified at the following web pages. http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html http://www.gotohoroscope.com/dictionary/astrological-B.html Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me.So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book "Horary Astrology"on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide whatto make of it:" Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs....Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility,plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile,changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. "From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signswhich are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo.Any other explanations are welcome.I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions soI'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinikwrote:>> No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning ofdual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by lateProf. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dualsigns. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles ofAstrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti.> Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote:> , Hasmukhrai Mehta<astroclinik@>> wrote:> >> > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.> It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on> page 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.> > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial> representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away> from the previous one.> > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS> to be a dual sign.> > > Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at> least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is> a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is> a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been> given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light> cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir,> > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > > > Regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > wrote:> > >> > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanakji,> > > Thankyou for your clarification> > > Regards> > > Sankar> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > about multiple marriage:> > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > > (1)> > > Page no:83> > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > dual sign more > > > then one wife.> > > Page no: 181:> > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > in dual sign or > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > > Page no: 182.> > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > only rule to be > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > is either MER > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > constellation of a planet in > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > > page 165> > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > simultaneously satisfied:> > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > marriage is denied.> > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > > > hope it help> > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanakji,> > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > > This person 3 times married> > > Only Virgo given the results> > > > > > Details is> > > DOB:02.08.1965> > > TOB:05.45.00> > > POB:CHIRALA> > > > > > Regards> > > Sankar > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > body.> > > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > > > regards> > > kanak> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > P.S.> > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > > > Dual Signs> > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > > > Double-bodied Signs> > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > such > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > that > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > states > > > of weather."> > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > man, > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > Reader-2.> > > > Any comment?> > > > > > > > regards> > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Dear Lajmi ji, Shri Raichur and the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati exnclude Virgo in dual sign as per KP. Without books or any standard creditials of publication of astrlogical articals and books, it looks like blind saying without any athority at all. As per KP, Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp has nothing to do with more than one marriage. Regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear enlightened ones, > I feel,from my personal experience,(not strictly as per K.P.,though,),that a dual sign-pair, consists of two different signs whose owner is the same Planet...Aries/Scorpio - Mars; Taurus/Libra - Venus; Gemini/Virgo - Mercury ;Pisces/Saggittarius - Jupiter ;and Capricorn/Aquarius - Sat ...and each sign,having it's own distinct signature... > I have,some time ago,in a discussion with the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati...mentioned this experience of mine... > I invite more readers to contribute their own experiences,rather than going simply 'by the book'...In the meanwhile...A question please...Does Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp indicate a single,though delayed,marriage ? OR, more than one marriage..? > Am looking forward to replies/clarifications from senior practitioners of K.P.... > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: > > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me. > So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book " Horary Astrology " > on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what > to make of it: > > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs. > ... > > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility, > plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile, > changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. " > > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs > which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo. > > Any other explanations are welcome. > > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so > I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > wrote: > > > > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of > dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late > Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual > signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of > Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti. > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote: > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual. > > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on > > page 108 of " Horary Astrology " in classification of signs. > > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial > > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away > > from the previous one. > > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS > > to be a dual sign. > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at > > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is > > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is > > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been > > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light > > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir, > > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl. > > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality " . > > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > Thankyou for your clarification > > > > Regards > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > > about multiple marriage: > > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > > > (1) > > > > Page no:83 > > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > > dual sign more > > > > then one wife. > > > > Page no: 181: > > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > > in dual sign or > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise. > > > > Page no: 182. > > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > > only rule to be > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > > is either MER > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > > > page 165 > > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > > simultaneously satisfied: > > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > > marriage is denied. > > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11. > > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > > > > > hope it help > > > > regards > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > > > This person 3 times married > > > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > > > > > Details is > > > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > > > TOB:05.45.00 > > > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > > body. > > > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341 > > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs. > > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > > > > > Dual Signs > > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double- bodied > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > > such > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > > that > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow the > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > > states > > > > of weather. " > > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double- bodied > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > > man, > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera: " The > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality. " > > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > Reader-2. > > > > > Any comment? > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Dear Kanak, Thanks for the info...however, Aquarius & Capricorn do,each,have a different set of characteristics...isn't it ? Begining with, Airy and Earthy signs,Fixed and Moveable signs,,Human and bestial Signs,Fruitful and semi-fruitful signs,Human amd bestial signs,Positive and Negative signs...Cheerful refined,etc,and Premeditative,prudent,power,secretive etc...respectively, and so on... Thus,as per our revered Guruji,Sat posited in Aquarius should give different results,in keeping with their differing characteristics, compared to Sat posited in Capricorn...isn't it ? Precisely the reason for my serious question...as to why our revered Guruji has classified as above,but stalwarts still differentiate... This is the question arising to me,out of my humble and limited experience,and also in the face of what is quoted above..."why do our stalwarts continue to say what they say"...? Are we going only "by the book" ? Or, are we trying to be "more loyal than the King" ? That,Kanak,is my submission...looking forward to comments from ALL stalwarts please... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji,Shri Raichur and the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati exnclude Virgo in dual sign as per KP.Without books or any standard creditials of publication of astrlogical articals and books, it looks like blind saying without any athority at all. As per KP, Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp has nothing to do with more than one marriage. Regards,tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear enlightened ones,> I feel,from my personal experience,(not strictly as per K.P.,though,),that a dual sign-pair, consists of two different signs whose owner is the same Planet...Aries/Scorpio - Mars; Taurus/Libra - Venus; Gemini/Virgo - Mercury ;Pisces/Saggittarius - Jupiter ;and Capricorn/Aquarius - Sat ...and each sign,having it's own distinct signature...> I have,some time ago,in a discussion with the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati...mentioned this experience of mine...> I invite more readers to contribute their own experiences,rather than going simply 'by the book'...In the meanwhile...A question please...Does Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp indicate a single,though delayed,marriage ? OR, more than one marriage..?> Am looking forward to replies/clarifications from senior practitioners of K.P....> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote:> > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me.> So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book "Horary Astrology"> on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what> to make of it:> > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs.> ...> > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility,> plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile,> changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. "> > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs> which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo.> > Any other explanations are welcome.> > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so> I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace.> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>> wrote:> >> > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of> dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late> Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual> signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of> Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti.> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote:> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta> <astroclinik@>> > wrote:> > >> > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.> > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on> > page 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.> > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial> > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away> > from the previous one.> > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS> > to be a dual sign.> > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at> > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is> > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is> > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been> > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light> > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir,> > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Thankyou for your clarification> > > > Regards> > > > Sankar> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > > about multiple marriage:> > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > > > (1)> > > > Page no:83> > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > > dual sign more > > > > then one wife.> > > > Page no: 181:> > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > > in dual sign or > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > > > Page no: 182.> > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > > only rule to be > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > > is either MER > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > > > page 165> > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > > simultaneously satisfied:> > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > > marriage is denied.> > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > > > > > hope it help> > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > > > This person 3 times married> > > > Only Virgo given the results> > > > > > > > Details is> > > > DOB:02.08.1965> > > > TOB:05.45.00> > > > POB:CHIRALA> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > > body.> > > > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > > > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > P.S.> > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > > > > > Dual Signs> > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs> > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > > such > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > > that > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > > states > > > > of weather."> > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > > man, > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > Reader-2.> > > > > Any comment?> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Dear Hasmukh, Pl. peruse my detailed reply to Mr.KanakBosmia,and I am not insisting that you or the group,accept my views...but can you,or anybody explain convincingly,instead of simply quoting from books..written long ago,.and taking sides without quoting from one's own experience...or atleast giving some credible rationale... Our revered Guruji had then borrowed heavily from,and incorporated,a lot of Western ideas/thinking into K.P.,those days... Do we need to be die-hard and staunchly orthodox in thinking and close our minds to plain and simple logic...? The Group is requested to THINK...! With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: Nobody can do anything if someone insists to stick to his belief or opinion. I do agree that in most of the Vedic astrological literature, no difference has been seen in the meaning of the terms: Common, Mutable and Dual signs. Perhaps it was Guruji KSK who defined the “Dual” sign for the first time where Virgo was not included in his definition of “Dual Signs”. Another authority, Mr K Subramaniam, s/o Prof. KSK and author of several KP books repeats this fact in his book, “Astrology for Beginners, Vol.2.” Moreover, at least three online astrological dictionaries do not include Virgo in the definition of “Dual signs”. These can be verified at the following web pages. http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html http://www.gotohoroscope.com/dictionary/astrological-B.html Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta. Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me. So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book " Horary Astrology " on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what to make of it: " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs. .... Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility, plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile, changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. " From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo. Any other explanations are welcome. I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: > > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti. > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote: > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > wrote: > > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual. > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on > page 108 of " Horary Astrology " in classification of signs. > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away > from the previous one. > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS > to be a dual sign. > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir, > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > > > Regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl. > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality " . > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > Thankyou for your clarification > > > Regards > > > Sankar > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > about multiple marriage: > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > > (1) > > > Page no:83 > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > dual sign more > > > then one wife. > > > Page no: 181: > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > in dual sign or > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise. > > > Page no: 182. > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > only rule to be > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > is either MER > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > constellation of a planet in > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > > page 165 > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > simultaneously satisfied: > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > marriage is denied. > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11. > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > > > hope it help > > > regards > > > kanak > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > > This person 3 times married > > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > > > Details is > > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > > TOB:05.45.00 > > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > > > Regards > > > Sankar > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > body. > > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > > > regards > > > kanak > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341 > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs. > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > > > Dual Signs > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > such > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > that > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow the > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > states > > > of weather. " > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > man, > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera: " The > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality. " > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > Reader-2. > > > > Any comment? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Due to opinions of so many people, i rechecked various texts... Some texts mention Virgo as dual while some do not. But the more senior authorities in KP have NOT included Virgo as dual sign. I guess it's upto everyone's experience. I'll try to see if this approach works. , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > Shri Raichur and the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati > exnclude Virgo in dual sign as per KP. > > Without books or any standard creditials of publication of > astrlogical articals and books, it looks like blind saying without > any athority at all. > > As per KP, Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp has nothing to do with > more than one marriage. > > > Regards, > > tw > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > wrote: > > > > Dear enlightened ones, > > I feel,from my personal > experience,(not strictly as per K.P.,though,),that a dual sign-pair, > consists of two different signs whose owner is the same > Planet...Aries/Scorpio - Mars; Taurus/Libra - Venus; Gemini/Virgo - > Mercury ;Pisces/Saggittarius - Jupiter ;and Capricorn/Aquarius - > Sat ...and each sign,having it's own distinct signature... > > I have,some time ago,in a > discussion with the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu > Ganapati...mentioned this experience of mine... > > I invite more readers to > contribute their own experiences,rather than going simply 'by the > book'...In the meanwhile...A question please...Does Sat as the s/l > of the VIIth cusp indicate a single,though delayed,marriage ? OR, > more than one marriage..? > > Am looking forward to > replies/clarifications from senior practitioners of K.P.... > > With best wishes, > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote: > > > > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than > me. > > So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book " Horary > Astrology " > > on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide > what > > to make of it: > > > > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs. > > ... > > > > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility, > > plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, > versatile, > > changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. " > > > > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs > > which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo. > > > > Any other explanations are welcome. > > > > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions > so > > I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace. > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning > of > > dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by > late > > Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of > dual > > signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of > > Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti. > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote: > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta > > <astroclinik@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual. > > > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy > himself on > > > page 108 of " Horary Astrology " in classification of signs. > > > > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the > pictorial > > > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 > signs away > > > from the previous one. > > > > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence > Virgo HAS > > > to be a dual sign. > > > > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes > in at > > > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, > it is > > > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and > it is > > > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has > been > > > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the > light > > > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual > signs. > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir, > > > > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two > things in > > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in > another > > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is > not > > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be > then > > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta > <astroclinik@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means > double > > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have > two > > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) > contains a > > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two > bodies, i.e. > > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a > horse. > > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol > contains two > > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a > girl. > > > > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, > page 75 > > > > write about dual signs: " Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius > (Dhanus) and > > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning > plurality " . > > > > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts. > > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > > Thankyou for your clarification > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Sankar ji, > > > > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other > work and > > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you. > > > > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in > readers > > > > about multiple marriage: > > > > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage: > > > > > (1) > > > > > Page no:83 > > > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet > occuping > > > > dual sign more > > > > > then one wife. > > > > > Page no: 181: > > > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord > situated is > > > > in dual sign or > > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is > promise. > > > > > Page no: 182. > > > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said > that the > > > > only rule to be > > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th > sublord > > > > is either MER > > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage. > > > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition, > > > > > page 165 > > > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two > conditions are > > > > > simultaneously satisfied: > > > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a > dual > > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and > > > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11. > > > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then > second > > > > > marriage is denied. > > > > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in > 11. > > > > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL > RASI. > > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya > rasi this > > > > chart indicate multipal marriage. > > > > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject > and if > > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group. > > > > > > > > > > hope it help > > > > > regards > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kanakji, > > > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign > > > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information > > > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo > > > > > This person 3 times married > > > > > Only Virgo given the results > > > > > > > > > > Details is > > > > > DOB:02.08.1965 > > > > > TOB:05.45.00 > > > > > POB:CHIRALA > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign. > > > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have > double > > > > body. > > > > > it is clear after this mail thanks. > > > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji? > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kanak, > > > > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL > signs > > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II > page 75, > > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, > Rangarajan > > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page > 18, Uday > > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs > including > > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page > 341 > > > > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs. > > > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable > signs. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html > > > > > > > > > > Dual Signs > > > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs. > > > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs > > > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual > signs) > > > > > because it has two " bodies " in its symbol, the symbol of the > Twins. > > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) > and > > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins > etc., when > > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on > the > > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double- > bodied > > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with > two > > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at > once, > > > > such > > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs. > > > > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > Pisces (two > > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on > the cusp > > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant > or when > > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist > is > > > > that > > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they " follow > the > > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are > between the > > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as > it > > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the > two > > > > states > > > > > of weather. " > > > > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm > > > > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. > > > > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double- > bodied > > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two " bodies " in its > symbol, the > > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius > (part > > > > man, > > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th > pera: " The > > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius > & > > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the > same > > > > > rule is applicable. " > > > > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002) > > > > > > " Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces > > > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning > plurality. " > > > > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > > Reader-2. > > > > > > Any comment? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying > << > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Note: forwarded message attached. Find out what India is talking about on Answers India. Dear tw853, The s/l of the VIIth if it is a dual planet,more than one marriage is indicated...as per K.P. ! ? L.Y.Rao. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, Thanks for the info...however, Aquarius & Capricorn do,each,have a different set of characteristics...isn't it ? Begining with, Airy and Earthy signs,Fixed and Moveable signs,,Human and bestial Signs,Fruitful and semi-fruitful signs,Human amd bestial signs,Positive and Negative signs...Cheerful refined,etc,and Premeditative,prudent,power,secretive etc...respectively, and so on... Thus,as per our revered Guruji,Sat posited in Aquarius should give different results,in keeping with their differing characteristics, compared to Sat posited in Capricorn...isn't it ? Precisely the reason for my serious question...as to why our revered Guruji has classified as above,but stalwarts still differentiate... This is the question arising to me,out of my humble and limited experience,and also in the face of what is quoted above..."why do our stalwarts continue to say what they say"...? Are we going only "by the book" ? Or, are we trying to be "more loyal than the King" ? That,Kanak,is my submission...looking forward to comments from ALL stalwarts please... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji,Shri Raichur and the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati exnclude Virgo in dual sign as per KP.Without books or any standard creditials of publication of astrlogical articals and books, it looks like blind saying without any athority at all. As per KP, Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp has nothing to do with more than one marriage. Regards,tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear enlightened ones,> I feel,from my personal experience,(not strictly as per K.P.,though,),that a dual sign-pair, consists of two different signs whose owner is the same Planet...Aries/Scorpio - Mars; Taurus/Libra - Venus; Gemini/Virgo - Mercury ;Pisces/Saggittarius - Jupiter ;and Capricorn/Aquarius - Sat ...and each sign,having it's own distinct signature...> I have,some time ago,in a discussion with the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati...mentioned this experience of mine...> I invite more readers to contribute their own experiences,rather than going simply 'by the book'...In the meanwhile...A question please...Does Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp indicate a single,though delayed,marriage ? OR, more than one marriage..?> Am looking forward to replies/clarifications from senior practitioners of K.P....> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote:> > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me.> So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book "Horary Astrology"> on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what> to make of it:> > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs.> ...> > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility,> plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile,> changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. "> > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs> which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo.> > Any other explanations are welcome.> > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so> I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace.> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>> wrote:> >> > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of> dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late> Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual> signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of> Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti.> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote:> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta> <astroclinik@>> > wrote:> > >> > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.> > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on> > page 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.> > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial> > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away> > from the previous one.> > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS> > to be a dual sign.> > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at> > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is> > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is> > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been> > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light> > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir,> > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Thankyou for your clarification> > > > Regards> > > > Sankar> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > > about multiple marriage:> > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > > > (1)> > > > Page no:83> > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > > dual sign more > > > > then one wife.> > > > Page no: 181:> > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > > in dual sign or > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > > > Page no: 182.> > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > > only rule to be > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > > is either MER > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > > > page 165> > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > > simultaneously satisfied:> > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > > marriage is denied.> > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > > > > > hope it help> > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > > > This person 3 times married> > > > Only Virgo given the results> > > > > > > > Details is> > > > DOB:02.08.1965> > > > TOB:05.45.00> > > > POB:CHIRALA> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > > body.> > > > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > > > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > P.S.> > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > > > > > Dual Signs> > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs> > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > > such > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > > that > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > > states > > > > of weather."> > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > > man, > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > Reader-2.> > > > > Any comment?> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Dear Lajmi ji, 1) tha mail you have reply is not writen by me but it was from Tin Win ji, 2) About SAT in Kumbha and Makara , i want to say only that we have to check not in which sign but IN WHICH STAR AND SUB. and i follow only this. i never consider planet is in which sign. 3) you write: " This is the question arising to me,out of my humble and limited experience,and also in the face of what is quoted above..."why do our stalwarts continue to say what they say"...? Are we going only "by the book" ? Or, are we trying to be "more loyal than the King" ? " My answer is when i prove that Sanmugam's rule is not reliable at that time you say writen in so and so books, bcoz write by Senior KP Astrologer......etc. at that( Even today still even only for test you have not check it but you have to go with same rule still today.)I think we have to be open minded for new and if we found usefull without any hesitation. You are most experince KP astrologer and i am not mutch experiance like you . I am rely appolise if i heart you by any means. please do not misundestand me. 4) Rasi Picture is indicate Dual body autometic rasi give result of duality is not easy to digest for me. But all are use this !!. and to clear this impression about dual rasi I am start research under Tin Win ji and Raichur ji in my group on multipal marriage, when i do 100 chart of singal marriage data found in big amount of data indicte multiple marriage. after some time we will able to say anything on this subject with so work. I think i have to stop here. regards KanakYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, Thanks for the info...however, Aquarius & Capricorn do,each,have a different set of characteristics...isn't it ? Begining with, Airy and Earthy signs,Fixed and Moveable signs,,Human and bestial Signs,Fruitful and semi-fruitful signs,Human amd bestial signs,Positive and Negative signs...Cheerful refined,etc,and Premeditative,prudent,power,secretive etc...respectively, and so on... Thus,as per our revered Guruji,Sat posited in Aquarius should give different results,in keeping with their differing characteristics, compared to Sat posited in Capricorn...isn't it ? Precisely the reason for my serious question...as to why our revered Guruji has classified as above,but stalwarts still differentiate... This is the question arising to me,out of my humble and limited experience,and also in the face of what is quoted above..."why do our stalwarts continue to say what they say"...? Are we going only "by the book" ? Or, are we trying to be "more loyal than the King" ? That,Kanak,is my submission...looking forward to comments from ALL stalwarts please... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji,Shri Raichur and the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati exnclude Virgo in dual sign as per KP.Without books or any standard creditials of publication of astrlogical articals and books, it looks like blind saying without any athority at all. As per KP, Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp has nothing to do with more than one marriage. Regards,tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear enlightened ones,> I feel,from my personal experience,(not strictly as per K.P.,though,),that a dual sign-pair, consists of two different signs whose owner is the same Planet...Aries/Scorpio - Mars; Taurus/Libra - Venus; Gemini/Virgo - Mercury ;Pisces/Saggittarius - Jupiter ;and Capricorn/Aquarius - Sat ...and each sign,having it's own distinct signature...> I have,some time ago,in a discussion with the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati...mentioned this experience of mine...> I invite more readers to contribute their own experiences,rather than going simply 'by the book'...In the meanwhile...A question please...Does Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp indicate a single,though delayed,marriage ? OR, more than one marriage..?> Am looking forward to replies/clarifications from senior practitioners of K.P....> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote:> > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me.> So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book "Horary Astrology"> on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what> to make of it:> > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs.> ...> > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility,> plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile,> changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. "> > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs> which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo.> > Any other explanations are welcome.> > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so> I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace.> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>> wrote:> >> > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of> dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late> Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual> signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of> Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti.> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote:> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta> <astroclinik@>> > wrote:> > >> > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.> > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on> > page 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.> > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial> > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away> > from the previous one.> > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS> > to be a dual sign.> > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at> > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is> > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is> > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been> > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light> > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir,> > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Thankyou for your clarification> > > > Regards> > > > Sankar> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > > about multiple marriage:> > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > > > (1)> > > > Page no:83> > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > > dual sign more > > > > then one wife.> > > > Page no: 181:> > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > > in dual sign or > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > > > Page no: 182.> > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > > only rule to be > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > > is either MER > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > > > page 165> > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > > simultaneously satisfied:> > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > > marriage is denied.> > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > > > > > hope it help> > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > > > This person 3 times married> > > > Only Virgo given the results> > > > > > > > Details is> > > > DOB:02.08.1965> > > > TOB:05.45.00> > > > POB:CHIRALA> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > > body.> > > > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > > > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > P.S.> > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > > > > > Dual Signs> > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs> > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > > such > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > > that > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > > states > > > > of weather."> > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > > man, > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > Reader-2.> > > > > Any comment?> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Dear Kanak, Allow me to remind you that in my reply to you at that time,I had said that The book Punarphoo,has given several different examples for different events etc...but I had never never questioned your experience...I had also written about my experiences Kar's rules for cancellation of Punarphoo,which quite a few of my personal experiences had endorsed... I agree with you and many other K.P. followers that we should apply K.P. rules in sufficient numbers of different cases,and only then arrive at any firm conclusion... I hope I have addressed your "misgivings"...satisfactorily,if not,pl. accept my apologies... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Lajmi ji, 1) tha mail you have reply is not writen by me but it was from Tin Win ji, 2) About SAT in Kumbha and Makara , i want to say only that we have to check not in which sign but IN WHICH STAR AND SUB. and i follow only this. i never consider planet is in which sign. 3) you write: " This is the question arising to me,out of my humble and limited experience,and also in the face of what is quoted above..."why do our stalwarts continue to say what they say"...? Are we going only "by the book" ? Or, are we trying to be "more loyal than the King" ? " My answer is when i prove that Sanmugam's rule is not reliable at that time you say writen in so and so books, bcoz write by Senior KP Astrologer......etc. at that( Even today still even only for test you have not check it but you have to go with same rule still today.)I think we have to be open minded for new and if we found usefull without any hesitation. You are most experince KP astrologer and i am not mutch experiance like you . I am rely appolise if i heart you by any means. please do not misundestand me. 4) Rasi Picture is indicate Dual body autometic rasi give result of duality is not easy to digest for me. But all are use this !!. and to clear this impression about dual rasi I am start research under Tin Win ji and Raichur ji in my group on multipal marriage, when i do 100 chart of singal marriage data found in big amount of data indicte multiple marriage. after some time we will able to say anything on this subject with so work. I think i have to stop here. regards KanakYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, Thanks for the info...however, Aquarius & Capricorn do,each,have a different set of characteristics...isn't it ? Begining with, Airy and Earthy signs,Fixed and Moveable signs,,Human and bestial Signs,Fruitful and semi-fruitful signs,Human amd bestial signs,Positive and Negative signs...Cheerful refined,etc,and Premeditative,prudent,power,secretive etc...respectively, and so on... Thus,as per our revered Guruji,Sat posited in Aquarius should give different results,in keeping with their differing characteristics, compared to Sat posited in Capricorn...isn't it ? Precisely the reason for my serious question...as to why our revered Guruji has classified as above,but stalwarts still differentiate... This is the question arising to me,out of my humble and limited experience,and also in the face of what is quoted above..."why do our stalwarts continue to say what they say"...? Are we going only "by the book" ? Or, are we trying to be "more loyal than the King" ? That,Kanak,is my submission...looking forward to comments from ALL stalwarts please... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Lajmi ji,Shri Raichur and the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati exnclude Virgo in dual sign as per KP.Without books or any standard creditials of publication of astrlogical articals and books, it looks like blind saying without any athority at all. As per KP, Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp has nothing to do with more than one marriage. Regards,tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear enlightened ones,> I feel,from my personal experience,(not strictly as per K.P.,though,),that a dual sign-pair, consists of two different signs whose owner is the same Planet...Aries/Scorpio - Mars; Taurus/Libra - Venus; Gemini/Virgo - Mercury ;Pisces/Saggittarius - Jupiter ;and Capricorn/Aquarius - Sat ...and each sign,having it's own distinct signature...> I have,some time ago,in a discussion with the more learned K.P.-stalwart Mr.Kuppu Ganapati...mentioned this experience of mine...> I invite more readers to contribute their own experiences,rather than going simply 'by the book'...In the meanwhile...A question please...Does Sat as the s/l of the VIIth cusp indicate a single,though delayed,marriage ? OR, more than one marriage..?> Am looking forward to replies/clarifications from senior practitioners of K.P....> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir wrote:> > Alright, I see many here are more aged and more experienced than me.> So I will give the passage by KSK sir in his book "Horary Astrology"> on page 108. And I leave it to the experienced people to decide what> to make of it:> > " Gemoni, Virgo, Saggitarius and Pisces are common signs.> ...> > Common (dual, mutable) signs: Dual, Fluctuating, flexibility,> plasticity, intellectual, sympathetical, sensitive, subtle, versatile,> changedul, inconstant, indecisive, vacillating and restless. "> > From this, my conclusion is that Common and Dual are the same signs> which are known as Dwisvabhava and which include Virgo.> > Any other explanations are welcome.> > I have also experienced the dual nature of Virgo in my predictions so> I'm pretty sure. So I'll leave it to each person to decide. Peace.> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>> wrote:> >> > No Sir, I never meant dual sign as Dwisvabhava sign. The meaning of> dual has clearly been mentioned as double-bodied or bicorporal by late> Prof. KSK himself. He has NOT included Virgo in his definition of dual> signs. Please refer to page no.75 of Fundamental Principles of> Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti.> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > Padmanabh <light_of_erindir@> wrote:> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta> <astroclinik@>> > wrote:> > >> > > > Virgo IS a dual sign...if Dwisvabhava is what you mean by dual.> > It has been mentioned in many texts and by KS Krishnamurthy himself on> > page 108 of "Horary Astrology" in classification of signs.> > > > The Char-Sthir-Dwisvabhava nature has nothing to do with the pictorial> > representation of the sign. Each sign of each category is 3 signs away> > from the previous one.> > > > Also, lord of Virgo is Mercury which is a dual planet hence Virgo HAS> > to be a dual sign.> > > > > Dear Mr Bhaskar,> > > > > > Dual sign is a totally different classification. Virgo comes in at> > least in six types of classifications, viz. It is a common sign, it is> > a negative sign, it is a Southern sign, it is an earthy sign and it is> > a barren sign, it is a human sign. The definition of dual has been> > given as bicorporal or double-bodied. The bundle of corn and the light> > cannot be said to be bodies. All the common signs are not dual signs. > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: Sir,> > > > > > Read your explanation. The Virgin in sign Virgo, hold two things in > > > her two hands, bundle of corn in one hand, and a light in another > > > hand. Without going deep in the meaning for this, if Virgo is not > > > dual then please identify,which characteristic would Virgo be then > > > given, Fixed or Cardinal ?> > > > > > Regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > No Sir, Virgo is not a dual sign. In astrology, dual means double > > > bodied. These signs are called dual signs because they have two > > > bodies in their symbols. The symbol for Gemini (Mithuna) contains a > > > couple (a man and a woman), Sagittarius (Dhanu) has two bodies, i.e. > > > upper half is that of a man and the lower half is that of a horse. > > > The third and the last one is Pisces (Meena). Its symbol contains two > > > fish. On the contrary, Virgo (Kanya) symbol has only one = a girl.> > > > > > > > Prof KSK in his book Fundamental Principles of Astrology, page 75 > > > write about dual signs: "Gemini (Mithuna), Sagittarius (Dhanus) and > > > Pisces (Meena) are called twin signs or dual signs meaning plurality".> > > > > > > > Hope, this should clear all doubts.> > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Thankyou for your clarification> > > > Regards> > > > Sankar> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Sankar ji,> > > > > > > > thanks for your opinion.> > > > > > > > I am sorry for late reply bcoz i am bussy with some other work and > > > i have to give you reply after cheking of chart mention by you.> > > > > > > > I check chart.first i want to give you what ruleas given in readers > > > about multiple marriage:> > > > > > > > Rules Given in Reader-4 For multipal marriage:> > > > (1)> > > > Page no:83> > > > (1)If thew sublord of 7th cusp is either MER or any planet occuping > > > dual sign more > > > > then one wife.> > > > Page no: 181:> > > > (2)If sublord of the constellation in which the sublord situated is > > > in dual sign or > > > > happens to be a dual planet then the second marriage is promise.> > > > Page no: 182.> > > > (3)For more then one Marriage Prof.Krishnamurty has said that the > > > only rule to be > > > > followed is to note the sublord of the 7th cusp,If the 7th sublord > > > is either MER > > > > or any planet occuping a dual sign or deposited in the > > > constellation of a planet in > > > > the dual sign will be more then one marriage.> > > > KP Reader VI, 1978 Edition,> > > > page 165> > > > (4)Second marriage is indicated if the following two conditions are > > > > simultaneously satisfied:> > > > (i) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is deposited in a > > > > dual sign or in the constellation of a planet in or owning a dual > > > > sign or if the sub-lord of the 7th cusp is Mercury; and> > > > (ii) The sub-lord of the 7th cusp is also a > > > > significator of either of the houses 2 or 11.> > > > If any of the above two conditions is not satisfied, then second > > > > marriage is denied.> > > > > > > > Now in chart 7th sublord is JUP(Dual Planet) and JUP is in 11.> > > > > > > > if we match with given rules and NOT COUNT KANYA AS A DUAL RASI. > > > rules no: 2,4(i)(ii) are work very well.. so without kanya rasi this > > > chart indicate multipal marriage.> > > > > > > > We are at present start some research work on this subject and if > > > and when we are able to give some report we will inform group.> > > > > > > > hope it help> > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Virgo aslo act as Dual sign> > > > For your kind information I will give a chart information> > > > Please try to find dual action of virgo> > > > This person 3 times married> > > > Only Virgo given the results> > > > > > > > Details is> > > > DOB:02.08.1965> > > > TOB:05.45.00> > > > POB:CHIRALA> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sankar > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > Only three sign is dual and no room for Kanya as dual sign.> > > > Dual means double bodied signs. and only three sign have double > > > body.> > > > it is clear after this mail thanks.> > > > any comment from Raichur ji and Lajmi ji?> > > > > > > > regards> > > > kanak> > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > > > As fur as I understand, in KP Virgo is not included in DUAL signs > > > > regarding plurality marriage as mentioned in KP Reader II page 75, > > > > confirmed by Sri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi through Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy in August last year, followed by you, Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamoorthy, C.V. Tyagarajan in KP Year Book 2000 page 18, Uday > > > > Chandra Vaidya in KP Year Book 2002 page 60 etc. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is confused with Common (dual, mutable) signs including > > > > Virgo in KP Reader II page 67 and 71.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > P.S.> > > > > > > > G.S. Agarwal: Practical Vedic Astrology, 2002 Edition, page 341> > > > > > > > Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces are double bodied signs.> > > > Common signs (including Virgo) are also called Dual, Mutable signs.> > > > > > > > http://www.astrologycom.com/glossd.html> > > > > > > > Dual Signs> > > > Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces. See Double-bodied Signs.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs> > > > Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied signs (dual signs) > > > > because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the symbol of the Twins. > > > > The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and > > > > Pisces (two fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when > > > > on the cusp of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the > > > > ascendant or when populated by many planets. Dual or double-bodied > > > > signs often love variety and are drawn to be involved with two > > > > people at a time, or have two or more things happening at once, > > > such > > > > as two jobs etc. See also Bi-corporal Signs.> > > > > > > > Bicorporeal (Double-bodied) Signs > > > > Gemini (twins), Sagittarius (part man, part beast) and Pisces (two > > > > fishes). They denote dual experiences, twins etc., when on the cusp > > > > of fifth or eleventh houses and especially on the ascendant or when > > > > populated by many planets. Ptolemy includes Virgo. His twist is > > > that > > > > these four signs are called bicorporeal because they "follow the > > > > solid [Fixed] signs, and are so called because they are between the > > > > solid and the solstitial and equinoctial signs and share, as it > > > > were, at end and beginning, the natural properties of the two > > > states > > > > of weather."> > > > > > > > http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/d-glossary.htm> > > > > > > > Dual Signs - Gemini; Sagittarius; Pisces.> > > > > > > > Double-bodied Signs - Gemini is known as one of the double-bodied > > > > signs (dual signs) because it has two "bodies" in its symbol, the > > > > symbol of the Twins. The other dual signs are Sagittarius (part > > > man, > > > > part beast) and Pisces (two fishes). > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > > In KP & Astrology 2006 Artical on second marriage by shri > > > > Vaikari Ramamurthy On page no: 8 authore mention in 5th pera:" The > > > > dual signs are Gemini & Virgo,Owned by Mercury & Sagittarius & > > > > Pisces Own by the Jupiter.For any number of mariage also the same > > > > rule is applicable."> > > > > > > > > > But in READER: 2 Page no:75(Edition 10th-2002)> > > > > "Dual Signs: Gemini(Mithuna), Sagittarius(Dahus) and Pisces> > > > (Meena) are called twins sign or dual signs meaning plurality."> > > > > > > > > > After this i have reffeer 3-4 books and found in all as in > > > > Reader-2.> > > > > Any comment?> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > kanak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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