Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear All, Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page No: 69 Last pera: " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict." Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication for Mars Dosha as per Kp? regards Kanak Bosmia>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 hello kanakji, "If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict"here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into consideration as mar is a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgrKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear All, Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page No: 69 Last pera: " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict." Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication for Mars Dosha as per Kp? regards Kanak Bosmia >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear Kanak, I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para of the same page 69. Regards, tw , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > hello kanakji, > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict " > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into consideration as mar is > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgr > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear All, > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page No: 69 Last pera: > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict. " > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication for Mars Dosha as per Kp? > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji, As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question. Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP? regards kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para of the same page 69.Regards,tw , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote:>> hello kanakji,> "If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict"> here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into consideration as mar is> a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgr> Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear All,> > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page No: 69 Last pera:> > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict."> > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication for Mars Dosha as per Kp?> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW>>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear Kanakbhai, Mars dosha has been explained in Sri KSK's book on Marriage Married Life and Children.Reader 4.pgs 51-69. The issue you are refering to is the separatitive nature of Mars and Saturn as planets.This should be read independently.this is on pg 69 The concept of Kuja Dosha has bee accepted in KP as explained in the above book. Regards, Satish , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji, > > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question. > > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP? > > regards > kanak Bosmia > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > of the same page 69. > > Regards, > > tw > > , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote: > > > > hello kanakji, > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict " > > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > consideration as mar is > > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgr > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > No: 69 Last pera: > > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict. " > > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > for Mars Dosha as per Kp? > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Dear Satish ji, I read all page 51 to 69. and this is the reson i have doubt about Mars Dosha. Please refer Page no: 52 2nd Pera: Please refer Most important writing from Shri KSK ji on : page no: 55 ParaThird: " Let me first of all reproduce the various rules and finally offer my opinion " and after this all page no: 55 to69 Shri KSK ji write all found rules about Mars dosha in verius books and then in at last on page no: 69 para no 4 to last pera Shri KSK ji give his Opnion. This is my understanding, and so i want to clear my doubt is i am clear what i write above?may be i am wrong. I strongly request you,Shri Raichur ji, Tin Win ji ,Lajmi ji and all other learned person, to refer again this pages(specialy page 55 third pera) and reply, your reply is important for me. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Kanakbhai,Mars dosha has been explained in Sri KSK's book on Marriage Married Life and Children.Reader 4.pgs 51-69.The issue you are refering to is the separatitive nature of Mars and Saturn as planets.This should be read independently.this is on pg 69The concept of Kuja Dosha has bee accepted in KP as explained in the above book.Regards,Satish , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji,> > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question.> > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP?> > regards> kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > of the same page 69.> > Regards,> > tw> > , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote:> >> > hello kanakji,> > "If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict"> > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > consideration as mar is> > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgr> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > No: 69 Last pera:> > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict."> > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > for Mars Dosha as per Kp?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.>>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Dear Kanak, After going through almost all the literature on "Mars Dosha", I am in complete agreement with the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,who says in the Chapter "New Horizons in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati"... and I quote...: " Mars in the star of Sun,or own star,and occupying the houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII or XII, alone causes Dosha" In my own experience also,I have found this to operate... Mr.Raichur's comments are awaited... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia Sent: Saturday, 28 October, 2006 11:09:53 AMRe: Re: Mangal Dosha and KP Dear Satish ji, I read all page 51 to 69. and this is the reson i have doubt about Mars Dosha. Please refer Page no: 52 2nd Pera: Please refer Most important writing from Shri KSK ji on : page no: 55 ParaThird: " Let me first of all reproduce the various rules and finally offer my opinion " and after this all page no: 55 to69 Shri KSK ji write all found rules about Mars dosha in verius books and then in at last on page no: 69 para no 4 to last pera Shri KSK ji give his Opnion. This is my understanding, and so i want to clear my doubt is i am clear what i write above?may be i am wrong. I strongly request you,Shri Raichur ji, Tin Win ji ,Lajmi ji and all other learned person, to refer again this pages(specialy page 55 third pera) and reply, your reply is important for me. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: Dear Kanakbhai,Mars dosha has been explained in Sri KSK's book on Marriage Married Life and Children.Reader 4.pgs 51-69.The issue you are refering to is the separatitive nature of Mars and Saturn as planets.This should be read independently. this is on pg 69The concept of Kuja Dosha has bee accepted in KP as explained in the above book.Regards,Satish@gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji,> > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question.> > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP?> > regards> kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > of the same page 69.> > Regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ > wrote:> >> > hello kanakji,> > "If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict"> > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > consideration as mar is> > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,.... .......vgr> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > No: 69 Last pera:> > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict."> > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > for Mars Dosha as per Kp?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.> >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Dear Kanak You could treat it as Mars Dosha, though the ruling given is in respect of the hapiness or otherwise of Married Life. KSK has also recognised the traditional Mangal Dosha and given his rulings in the Same Reader. This is specfic as Mars has to signify 6 0r ,8 or12, which are houses for seperation of married partners. I will not be available for next 10 daysKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear All, Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page No: 69 Last pera: " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict." Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication for Mars Dosha as per Kp? regards Kanak Bosmia >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Good LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609 Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Dear Kanak, 1. Yes, I'm saying there is no MARS DOSHA as per Guruji KSK's third last para (page 69 KP Reader IV) which N. Sarangan quoted in his article " Mars Dosha- A Myth " (KP Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by Mars from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does not suit our modern age. KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a house is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with suggestion for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire. As per " KP " it may be different by looking back at the old Msg# 1303 and related ones. Regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji, > > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question. > > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP? > > regards > kanak Bosmia > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > of the same page 69. > > Regards, > > tw > > , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote: > > > > hello kanakji, > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict " > > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > consideration as mar is > > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgr > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > No: 69 Last pera: > > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict. " > > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > for Mars Dosha as per Kp? > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I follow the traditional criteria as summarised in reader 4, and also the traditional rules for the dosha being mitigated in some cases. Where the Dosha is not mitigated, I have found the charts have Marriage Punarphoo, and/or the sub lords of 7th and 6th are the same.I also check the plurality of marriages, as per the rules now, more or less accepted.good luckYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, After going through almost all the literature on "Mars Dosha", I am in complete agreement with the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,who says in the Chapter "New Horizons in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati"... and I quote...: " Mars in the star of Sun,or own star,and occupying the houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII or XII, alone causes Dosha" In my own experience also,I have found this to operate... Mr.Raichur's comments are awaited... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > Sent: Saturday, 28 October, 2006 11:09:53 AMRe: Re: Mangal Dosha and KP Dear Satish ji, I read all page 51 to 69. and this is the reson i have doubt about Mars Dosha. Please refer Page no: 52 2nd Pera: Please refer Most important writing from Shri KSK ji on : page no: 55 ParaThird: " Let me first of all reproduce the various rules and finally offer my opinion " and after this all page no: 55 to69 Shri KSK ji write all found rules about Mars dosha in verius books and then in at last on page no: 69 para no 4 to last pera Shri KSK ji give his Opnion. This is my understanding, and so i want to clear my doubt is i am clear what i write above?may be i am wrong. I strongly request you,Shri Raichur ji, Tin Win ji ,Lajmi ji and all other learned person, to refer again this pages(specialy page 55 third pera) and reply, your reply is important for me. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: Dear Kanakbhai,Mars dosha has been explained in Sri KSK's book on Marriage Married Life and Children.Reader 4.pgs 51-69.The issue you are refering to is the separatitive nature of Mars and Saturn as planets.This should be read independently. this is on pg 69The concept of Kuja Dosha has bee accepted in KP as explained in the above book.Regards,Satish@gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji,> > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question.> > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP?> > regards> kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > of the same page 69.> > Regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ > wrote:> >> > hello kanakji,> > "If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict"> > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > consideration as mar is> > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,.... .......vgr> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > No: 69 Last pera:> > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict."> > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > for Mars Dosha as per Kp?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.> >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Good LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609 Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Daer Friends, As regards, Mars Dosha I will give my personal experience. I had to undergo this exercise for a family reason.My experience over 100 charts was, in 90% cases,Kuja Dosha was present in girls around 28 yrs to 30 yras age group.Invariably I found all girls were well qualified, most post graduates and over and above well employed.I think the present generation can be covered by the axiom, " If you are well qualified,well-employed(career), then Kuja dosha is present " How does this manifest? In the family less or no issues, disturbed family life due both partners working,moving in and out of cities.I think it goes beyond any Dosha.It is present life style.dosha or no dosha.Saturn Rahu or Ketu may create more havoc too. Hence excess importance to Kuja dosha need not be given.Other aspects like longevity, mental(moon) compatibilty,good health etc need to be given equal consideration.KP methods are applicable or for those who use Vedic systems.This is covered in KP books. Regards, Satish Regards, , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > I follow the traditional criteria as summarised in reader 4, and also the traditional rules for the dosha being mitigated in some cases. Where the Dosha is not mitigated, I have found the charts have Marriage Punarphoo, and/or the sub lords of 7th and 6th are the same. > I also check the plurality of marriages, as per the rules now, more or less accepted. > > good luck > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > After going through almost all the literature on " Mars Dosha " , I am in complete agreement with the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,who says in the Chapter " New Horizons in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati " ... > and I quote...: " Mars in the star of Sun,or own star,and occupying the houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII or XII, alone causes Dosha " > In my own experience also,I have found this to operate... > Mr.Raichur's comments are awaited... > With kind regards, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > > Saturday, 28 October, 2006 11:09:53 AM > Re: Re: Mangal Dosha and KP > > > Dear Satish ji, > > I read all page 51 to 69. and this is the reson i have doubt about Mars Dosha. > > Please refer Page no: 52 2nd Pera: > > Please refer Most important writing from Shri KSK ji on : page no: 55 ParaThird: > > " Let me first of all reproduce the various rules and finally offer my opinion " > > and after this all page no: 55 to69 Shri KSK ji write all found rules about Mars dosha in verius books and then in at last on page no: 69 para no 4 to last pera Shri KSK ji give his Opnion. > > This is my understanding, and so i want to clear my doubt is i am clear what i write above?may be i am wrong. > > I strongly request you,Shri Raichur ji, Tin Win ji ,Lajmi ji and all other learned person, to refer again this pages(specialy page 55 third pera) and reply, your reply is important for me. > > regards > kanak Bosmia > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: > Dear Kanakbhai, > > Mars dosha has been explained in Sri KSK's book on > Marriage Married Life and Children.Reader 4.pgs 51-69. > > The issue you are refering to is the separatitive > nature of Mars and Saturn as planets.This should be read > independently. this is on pg 69 > > The concept of Kuja Dosha has bee accepted in KP as > explained in the above book. > > Regards, > > Satish > > @gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji, > > > > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i > ask this question. > > > > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP? > > > > regards > > kanak Bosmia > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > > > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > > of the same page 69. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > @gro ups.com, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ > wrote: > > > > > > hello kanakji, > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict " > > > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > > consideration as mar is > > > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,.... .......vgr > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > > No: 69 Last pera: > > > > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict. " > > > > > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > > for Mars Dosha as per Kp? > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small > Business. > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > Low, Low, Low Rates! 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Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Dear lajmi ji, First i wnat to clear your deep impression that all three part of astrosecrat and Kp not writen by P.Sanmugam. Part one is writen by him but next part two & Three writen by many authores. Artical you have mention in your mail was writen by T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44Not by P.Sanmugam. Now my question is why author consider SUN? what is the reson behind ? regards' Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, After going through almost all the literature on "Mars Dosha", I am in complete agreement with the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,who says in the Chapter "New Horizons in Krishnamurthi Padhdhati"... and I quote...: " Mars in the star of Sun,or own star,and occupying the houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII or XII, alone causes Dosha" In my own experience also,I have found this to operate... Mr.Raichur's comments are awaited... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > Sent: Saturday, 28 October, 2006 11:09:53 AMRe: Re: Mangal Dosha and KP Dear Satish ji, I read all page 51 to 69. and this is the reson i have doubt about Mars Dosha. Please refer Page no: 52 2nd Pera: Please refer Most important writing from Shri KSK ji on : page no: 55 ParaThird: " Let me first of all reproduce the various rules and finally offer my opinion " and after this all page no: 55 to69 Shri KSK ji write all found rules about Mars dosha in verius books and then in at last on page no: 69 para no 4 to last pera Shri KSK ji give his Opnion. This is my understanding, and so i want to clear my doubt is i am clear what i write above?may be i am wrong. I strongly request you,Shri Raichur ji, Tin Win ji ,Lajmi ji and all other learned person, to refer again this pages(specialy page 55 third pera) and reply, your reply is important for me. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: Dear Kanakbhai,Mars dosha has been explained in Sri KSK's book on Marriage Married Life and Children.Reader 4.pgs 51-69.The issue you are refering to is the separatitive nature of Mars and Saturn as planets.This should be read independently. this is on pg 69The concept of Kuja Dosha has bee accepted in KP as explained in the above book.Regards,Satish@gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji,> > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question.> > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP?> > regards> kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > of the same page 69.> > Regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ > wrote:> >> > hello kanakji,> > "If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict"> > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > consideration as mar is> > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,.... .......vgr> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ > wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > No: 69 Last pera:> > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict."> > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > for Mars Dosha as per Kp?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.> >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Dear Tin Win ji, I come to conclusion that as per KP not necessory to chack Mangal Dosha when we do Melapak. but point mention bellow is important to consider in Melapak: 1) Life of both boy and girl. 2)Child Birth 3)financialy possition of both 4) last we have to check KPDP. If all this 4 point agree then we can say YES.How mutch important give to each point is depend upon the astrologers experince . sugetions well come on this 4 point. regards kaank Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,1. Yes, I'm saying there is no MARS DOSHA as per Guruji KSK's third last para (page 69 KP Reader IV) which N. Sarangan quoted in his article "Mars Dosha- A Myth" (KP Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by Mars from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does not suit our modern age. KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a house is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with suggestion for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire. As per "KP" it may be different by looking back at the old Msg# 1303 and related ones.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji,> > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i ask this question.> > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP?> > regards> kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak,> > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > of the same page 69.> > Regards,> > tw> > , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote:> >> > hello kanakji,> > "If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict"> > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > consideration as mar is> > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgr> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > No: 69 Last pera:> > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb-> sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict."> > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > for Mars Dosha as per Kp?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW> >> > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<> > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.>>> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Dear Kanak, I agree with you referring below. Msg#1311 Even Late Prof B.V.Raman expressed his disgust over this bug bear of Kuja dosham and said that there is per haps mention of this Kujadoasham only in Kerala litrature of astrology. Msg#1303 Referring Astrosecrets & K.P. Part 1, by K.Subramaniam, pp 39-45, Subramaniam's view (particularly page 43-44) is explained as per KP in 3 points. (In additon to this 6-12H analysis, taking the other important analysis like longevity, children, health etc will certainly offer a happy wedlock to the couple. page 44) Msg#1307 Critism but itseems different now. KPAstro 2.5 KPDP Matching Report NOTE: Marriage compatibility is just one aspect to check while considering the horoscopes of a boy and a girl. Other aspects to check include longevity, education, health, child birth, career prospects and financial status. This report does NOT cover these other aspects. Regards, tw P.S. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > I come to conclusion that as per KP not necessory to chack Mangal Dosha when we do Melapak. > but point mention bellow is important to consider in Melapak: > 1) Life of both boy and girl. > 2)Child Birth > 3)financialy possition of both > 4) last we have to check KPDP. > > If all this 4 point agree then we can say YES.How mutch important give to each point is depend upon the astrologers experince . > > sugetions well come on this 4 point. > > regards > kaank Bosmia > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > 1. Yes, I'm saying there is no MARS DOSHA as per Guruji KSK's third > last para (page 69 KP Reader IV) which N. Sarangan quoted in his > article " Mars Dosha- A Myth " (KP Year Book 2002, page 48) to > conclude that the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are > meaningless without taking into consideration of the beneficial > aspects received by Mars from other planets, its stellar position > etc, and Mars Dosha does not suit our modern age. > > KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a house is > in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with suggestion > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire. > > As per " KP " it may be different by looking back at the old Msg# 1303 > and related ones. > > Regards, > > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji and Pawan ji, > > > > As per third last pera there is no MAR dosha as per KP, and so i > ask this question. > > > > Can we say there is no MAR dosha in KP? > > > > regards > > kanak Bosmia > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > > > I agree with Vgr Pavan that it seems Mars's planet nature and not > > Mars Dosha which is explained to be unvalid in the third-last para > > of the same page 69. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote: > > > > > > hello kanakji, > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict " > > > here i think we hve to take the nature of the planet into > > consideration as mar is > > > a violent planet mode of seperation will be violent.if it is sat > > then coldwar so its not mars dosha as per kp but is the mode of > > separation if mars promises seperation its my opinion and learned > > members should comment.with pranams to guruji.,...........vgr > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Today i found in Reader no: 4 , 10th edition August 2002 Page > > No: 69 Last pera: > > > > > > " If the sublord is either Mars or if it is in the constelletion > > of MAR, and if it is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 ,there will > > be violence and separation. if it is SAT , silence and remain dumb- > > sit and strike. Thus we have to pridict. " > > > > > > > > > Can any leraned persoan clear this? this is clearly indication > > for Mars Dosha as per Kp? > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small > Business. > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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