Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Dear KP Lovers, Thanks for making me a member of this group. I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system by reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from another KP Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups. First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP-software available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU ! I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File section. I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon were taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP would be 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus & ?? Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for other two left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP. I like to know how many of this group members agree to take Sublord also for RP. Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. Rangarajan Krishnamurthy: I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY Delivery of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still Mothers deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to any Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to the method used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so. As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child Birth/Delivery'' in the Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during that particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the method/methods effective or Correct. But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that the method is wrong!! Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time Rectification'' using the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / read those Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to check the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification. It would be better if this method too get varified. Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding fault with anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work. Please don't mistake me ! Thanks Best Wishes JaffnaMan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Dear Jaffman, I am not a expert on KP, just a lover. Too many cooks spoil the broth, So too many Rps will not suit to come to any conclusion, is what I feel. Because wheres the choice here from few ? here the choice remains from all the planets we know, so this makes no sense. Rps have to be applied to make the list short, and not add all the available planets with us to the list. If 7 Planets have to be taken ,then why do RP's at all, the list of 7 planets is already ready with us. I feel Ascendant Lord at time of Judgement, Star Lord of Moon, Sign Lord of Moon and Day Lord primarily. Ascendant star lord may be taken secondarily,and Rahu and Ketu if connected to the above RP Lords, I do not think Sublord should be taken as RP,on the contrary the RPs should be connected to fix the Sub Lord. Taking Sublord of Lagna as the pointer,to match from the available Rps, to rectify the Birth time, is I believe a very old method, and nothing new. The above are my personal comments, not sure what the experts feel about it. regards, Bhaskar. , " jaffnaman23 " <jaffnaman23 wrote: > > > Dear KP Lovers, > > Thanks for making me a member of this group. > > I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system by > reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from another KP > Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups. > > First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP-software > available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU ! > > I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File section. > > I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon were > taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP would be > 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus & ?? > Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for other two > left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP. > > I like to know how many of this group members agree to take Sublord also > for RP. > > Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. Rangarajan > Krishnamurthy: > > I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY Delivery > of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still Mothers > deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to any > Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to the method > used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so. > > As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child Birth/Delivery'' in the > Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during that > particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the method/methods > effective or Correct. > > But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that the method > is wrong!! > > Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time Rectification'' using > the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / read those > Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to check > the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification. > > It would be better if this method too get varified. > > Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding fault with > anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work. > > Please don't mistake me ! > > Thanks > > Best Wishes > > JaffnaMan. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, Thanks for the reply. I too don't agree with taking Sublords to the List of RPs, and that was the reason I asked the opinion of this group members. I'm still waiting for the reply to my question about the ''Mr.Rangarajan's Studies''. Do you have any idea about that? It was not very clear for me whether he mentioned those Periods of ''No-Child-birth'' and checked with those hospitals for any Child-Birth during that periods. It would have been very clear had he mentioned whether he had actually varified with the Hospitals. If he hadn't checked with the Hospitals, what he tried to infer from his Study? I can't understand his point ! Can anyone explain me, I may be wrong/ ?misunderstood his Studies? Thanks Best Wishes JaffnaMan , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Dear Jaffman,> > I am not a expert on KP, just a lover. > Too many cooks spoil the broth,> So too many Rps will not suit to come to any > conclusion, is what I feel.> Because wheres the choice here from few ? here> the choice remains from all the planets we know,> so this makes no sense.> Rps have to be applied to make the list short,> and not add all the available planets> with us to the list.> If 7 Planets have to be taken ,then why do RP's at all,> the list of 7 planets is already ready with us.> I feel Ascendant Lord at time of Judgement, Star Lord> of Moon, Sign Lord of Moon and Day Lord primarily.> Ascendant star lord may be taken secondarily,and > Rahu and Ketu if connected to the above RP Lords,> > I do not think Sublord should be taken as RP,on the> contrary the RPs should be connected to fix the > Sub Lord. Taking Sublord of Lagna as the pointer,to> match from the available Rps, to rectify the > Birth time, is I believe a very old method, and> nothing new.> > The above are my personal comments, not sure> what the experts feel about it.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , "jaffnaman23" jaffnaman23@ > wrote:> >> > > > Dear KP Lovers,> > > > Thanks for making me a member of this group.> > > > I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system by> > reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from another > KP> > Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups.> > > > First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP-software> > available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU !> > > > I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File > section.> > > > I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon > were> > taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP > would be> > 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus & ??> > Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for > other two> > left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP.> > > > I like to know how many of this group members agree to take Sublord > also> > for RP.> > > > Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. > Rangarajan> > Krishnamurthy:> > > > I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY > Delivery> > of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still Mothers> > deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to any> > Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to the > method> > used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so.> > > > As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child Birth/Delivery'' in > the> > Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during that> > particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the > method/methods> > effective or Correct.> > > > But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that the > method> > is wrong!!> > > > Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time Rectification'' > using> > the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / read > those> > Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to > check> > the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification.> > > > It would be better if this method too get varified.> > > > Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding fault > with> > anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work.> > > > Please don't mistake me !> > > > Thanks> > > > Best Wishes> > > > JaffnaMan.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Dear Bhaskar KSK in his book, has taken only 5 as the RPS. 1.Day Lord, 2 Moon sign lord, 3 Moon starlord, 4. Asc. Sign Lord, 5. Asc Star Lord. rahu/ketu if in signs of any of these The sublords have been added by his disciples, later on. In 4th Step Method, only 4 are considered, eeven the Asc star-lord is omitted. In my work I use only 5 as originally stipulated. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Jaffman,I am not a expert on KP, just a lover. Too many cooks spoil the broth,So too many Rps will not suit to come to any conclusion, is what I feel.Because wheres the choice here from few ? herethe choice remains from all the planets we know,so this makes no sense.Rps have to be applied to make the list short,and not add all the available planetswith us to the list.If 7 Planets have to be taken ,then why do RP's at all,the list of 7 planets is already ready with us.I feel Ascendant Lord at time of Judgement, Star Lordof Moon, Sign Lord of Moon and Day Lord primarily.Ascendant star lord may be taken secondarily,and Rahu and Ketu if connected to the above RP Lords,I do not think Sublord should be taken as RP,on thecontrary the RPs should be connected to fix the Sub Lord. Taking Sublord of Lagna as the pointer,tomatch from the available Rps, to rectify the Birth time, is I believe a very old method, andnothing new.The above are my personal comments, not surewhat the experts feel about it.regards,Bhaskar. , "jaffnaman23" <jaffnaman23 wrote:>> > Dear KP Lovers,> > Thanks for making me a member of this group.> > I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system by> reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from another KP> Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups.> > First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP-software> available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU !> > I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File section.> > I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon were> taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP would be> 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus & ??> Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for other two> left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP.> > I like to know how many of this group members agree to take Sublord also> for RP.> > Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. Rangarajan> Krishnamurthy:> > I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY Delivery> of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still Mothers> deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to any> Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to the method> used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so.> > As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child Birth/Delivery'' in the> Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during that> particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the method/methods> effective or Correct.> > But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that the method> is wrong!!> > Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time Rectification'' using> the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / read those> Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to check> the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification.> > It would be better if this method too get varified.> > Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding fault with> anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work.> > Please don't mistake me !> > Thanks> > Best Wishes> > JaffnaMan.>Good LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609 Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, What matter is which systems works.In any case the success factor does not statistically exceed over 81-83 %.We all can argue till the cows come home as was done 2 years ago,with no final conclusion. The general practice is RPs at the TOJ should match RPs at Birth.If not correction to be done.When there is a basic issue of what constitutes a correct birth time,which remains unresolved as on date, Corrections will all remain an area of discussion. In short each one to himself. Regards, Satish , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar > KSK in his book, has taken only 5 as the RPS. 1.Day Lord, 2 Moon sign lord, 3 Moon starlord, 4. Asc. Sign Lord, 5. Asc Star Lord. rahu/ketu if in signs of any of these > The sublords have been added by his disciples, later on. > In 4th Step Method, only 4 are considered, eeven the Asc star-lord is omitted. > In my work I use only 5 as originally stipulated. > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Jaffman, > > I am not a expert on KP, just a lover. > Too many cooks spoil the broth, > So too many Rps will not suit to come to any > conclusion, is what I feel. > Because wheres the choice here from few ? here > the choice remains from all the planets we know, > so this makes no sense. > Rps have to be applied to make the list short, > and not add all the available planets > with us to the list. > If 7 Planets have to be taken ,then why do RP's at all, > the list of 7 planets is already ready with us. > I feel Ascendant Lord at time of Judgement, Star Lord > of Moon, Sign Lord of Moon and Day Lord primarily. > Ascendant star lord may be taken secondarily,and > Rahu and Ketu if connected to the above RP Lords, > > I do not think Sublord should be taken as RP,on the > contrary the RPs should be connected to fix the > Sub Lord. Taking Sublord of Lagna as the pointer,to > match from the available Rps, to rectify the > Birth time, is I believe a very old method, and > nothing new. > > The above are my personal comments, not sure > what the experts feel about it. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " jaffnaman23 " <jaffnaman23@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear KP Lovers, > > > > Thanks for making me a member of this group. > > > > I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system by > > reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from another > KP > > Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups. > > > > First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP-software > > available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU ! > > > > I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File > section. > > > > I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon > were > > taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP > would be > > 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus & ?? > > Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for > other two > > left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP. > > > > I like to know how many of this group members agree to take Sublord > also > > for RP. > > > > Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. > Rangarajan > > Krishnamurthy: > > > > I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY > Delivery > > of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still Mothers > > deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to any > > Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to the > method > > used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so. > > > > As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child Birth/Delivery'' in > the > > Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during that > > particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the > method/methods > > effective or Correct. > > > > But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that the > method > > is wrong!! > > > > Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time Rectification'' > using > > the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / read > those > > Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to > check > > the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification. > > > > It would be better if this method too get varified. > > > > Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding fault > with > > anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work. > > > > Please don't mistake me ! > > > > Thanks > > > > Best Wishes > > > > JaffnaMan. > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Sir, I personally use only 4 and dont include asc. starlord unless necessary., and of course Rahu/Ketu if attached to these Lords. regards, Bhaskar. -- In , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar > KSK in his book, has taken only 5 as the RPS. 1.Day Lord, 2 Moon sign lord, 3 Moon starlord, 4. Asc. Sign Lord, 5. Asc Star Lord. rahu/ketu if in signs of any of these > The sublords have been added by his disciples, later on. > In 4th Step Method, only 4 are considered, eeven the Asc star- lord is omitted. > In my work I use only 5 as originally stipulated. > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Jaffman, > > I am not a expert on KP, just a lover. > Too many cooks spoil the broth, > So too many Rps will not suit to come to any > conclusion, is what I feel. > Because wheres the choice here from few ? here > the choice remains from all the planets we know, > so this makes no sense. > Rps have to be applied to make the list short, > and not add all the available planets > with us to the list. > If 7 Planets have to be taken ,then why do RP's at all, > the list of 7 planets is already ready with us. > I feel Ascendant Lord at time of Judgement, Star Lord > of Moon, Sign Lord of Moon and Day Lord primarily. > Ascendant star lord may be taken secondarily,and > Rahu and Ketu if connected to the above RP Lords, > > I do not think Sublord should be taken as RP,on the > contrary the RPs should be connected to fix the > Sub Lord. Taking Sublord of Lagna as the pointer,to > match from the available Rps, to rectify the > Birth time, is I believe a very old method, and > nothing new. > > The above are my personal comments, not sure > what the experts feel about it. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " jaffnaman23 " <jaffnaman23@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear KP Lovers, > > > > Thanks for making me a member of this group. > > > > I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system by > > reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from another > KP > > Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups. > > > > First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP- software > > available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU ! > > > > I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File > section. > > > > I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon > were > > taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP > would be > > 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus & ?? > > Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for > other two > > left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP. > > > > I like to know how many of this group members agree to take Sublord > also > > for RP. > > > > Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. > Rangarajan > > Krishnamurthy: > > > > I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY > Delivery > > of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still Mothers > > deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to any > > Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to the > method > > used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so. > > > > As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child Birth/Delivery'' in > the > > Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during that > > particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the > method/methods > > effective or Correct. > > > > But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that the > method > > is wrong!! > > > > Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time Rectification'' > using > > the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / read > those > > Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to > check > > the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification. > > > > It would be better if this method too get varified. > > > > Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding fault > with > > anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work. > > > > Please don't mistake me ! > > > > Thanks > > > > Best Wishes > > > > JaffnaMan. > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Sir, Yes, to each his own. Yes very true. No system would give 100%. About what is the right birth time You may view my postings in " Jyotish Group " . Neither the first cry neither the cutting of Umblical chord or placenta, but only the first breath inhaled can constitute the birth time. If the cutting of the chord or first cry corresponds within a few seconds with these, then well and good, otherwise the first inhalation is only to be considered as the right birth time. regards, Bhaskar. , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > What matter is which systems works.In any case the > success factor does not statistically exceed over 81-83 %.We all can > argue till the cows come home as was done 2 years ago,with no final > conclusion. > > The general practice is RPs at the TOJ should match > RPs at Birth.If not correction to be done.When there is a basic issue > of what constitutes a correct birth time,which remains unresolved as > on date, Corrections will all remain an area of discussion. > > In short each one to himself. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar > > KSK in his book, has taken only 5 as the RPS. 1.Day Lord, 2 Moon > sign lord, 3 Moon starlord, 4. Asc. Sign Lord, 5. Asc Star Lord. > rahu/ketu if in signs of any of these > > The sublords have been added by his disciples, later on. > > In 4th Step Method, only 4 are considered, eeven the Asc star- lord > is omitted. > > In my work I use only 5 as originally stipulated. > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear Jaffman, > > > > I am not a expert on KP, just a lover. > > Too many cooks spoil the broth, > > So too many Rps will not suit to come to any > > conclusion, is what I feel. > > Because wheres the choice here from few ? here > > the choice remains from all the planets we know, > > so this makes no sense. > > Rps have to be applied to make the list short, > > and not add all the available planets > > with us to the list. > > If 7 Planets have to be taken ,then why do RP's at all, > > the list of 7 planets is already ready with us. > > I feel Ascendant Lord at time of Judgement, Star Lord > > of Moon, Sign Lord of Moon and Day Lord primarily. > > Ascendant star lord may be taken secondarily,and > > Rahu and Ketu if connected to the above RP Lords, > > > > I do not think Sublord should be taken as RP,on the > > contrary the RPs should be connected to fix the > > Sub Lord. Taking Sublord of Lagna as the pointer,to > > match from the available Rps, to rectify the > > Birth time, is I believe a very old method, and > > nothing new. > > > > The above are my personal comments, not sure > > what the experts feel about it. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " jaffnaman23 " <jaffnaman23@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear KP Lovers, > > > > > > Thanks for making me a member of this group. > > > > > > I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system by > > > reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from another > > KP > > > Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups. > > > > > > First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP- software > > > available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU ! > > > > > > I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File > > section. > > > > > > I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon > > were > > > taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP > > would be > > > 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus & ?? > > > Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for > > other two > > > left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP. > > > > > > I like to know how many of this group members agree to take Sublord > > also > > > for RP. > > > > > > Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. > > Rangarajan > > > Krishnamurthy: > > > > > > I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY > > Delivery > > > of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still Mothers > > > deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to any > > > Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to the > > method > > > used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so. > > > > > > As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child Birth/Delivery'' in > > the > > > Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during that > > > particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the > > method/methods > > > effective or Correct. > > > > > > But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that the > > method > > > is wrong!! > > > > > > Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time Rectification'' > > using > > > the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / read > > those > > > Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to > > check > > > the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification. > > > > > > It would be better if this method too get varified. > > > > > > Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding fault > > with > > > anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work. > > > > > > Please don't mistake me ! > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > JaffnaMan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 dear sir The first cry of the child is the same when the ambilical chord is cut.This may be lesser than 2 seconds. This time should be taken as the exact birth time.Only 5 rps are enough. Lagna star lord is very powerful & this lord should be given much importance. He may be the lagna lord of the querent.Sub lords are not considered. If we do so we will all the 9 planets as RPs & there will be confusion in omitting the planets. B. Indira , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Sir, > > Yes, to each his own. > Yes very true. No system would give 100%. About what is the right > birth time You may view my postings in " Jyotish Group " . Neither > the first cry neither the cutting of Umblical chord or placenta, but > only the first breath inhaled can constitute the birth time. If the > cutting of the chord or first cry corresponds within a few seconds > with these, > then well and good, otherwise the first inhalation is only to be > considered as the right birth time. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > What matter is which systems works.In any case the > > success factor does not statistically exceed over 81-83 %.We all can > > argue till the cows come home as was done 2 years ago,with no final > > conclusion. > > > > The general practice is RPs at the TOJ should match > > RPs at Birth.If not correction to be done.When there is a basic > issue > > of what constitutes a correct birth time,which remains unresolved as > > on date, Corrections will all remain an area of discussion. > > > > In short each one to himself. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar > > > KSK in his book, has taken only 5 as the RPS. 1.Day Lord, 2 Moon > > sign lord, 3 Moon starlord, 4. Asc. Sign Lord, 5. Asc Star Lord. > > rahu/ketu if in signs of any of these > > > The sublords have been added by his disciples, later on. > > > In 4th Step Method, only 4 are considered, eeven the Asc star- > lord > > is omitted. > > > In my work I use only 5 as originally stipulated. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > Dear Jaffman, > > > > > > I am not a expert on KP, just a lover. > > > Too many cooks spoil the broth, > > > So too many Rps will not suit to come to any > > > conclusion, is what I feel. > > > Because wheres the choice here from few ? here > > > the choice remains from all the planets we know, > > > so this makes no sense. > > > Rps have to be applied to make the list short, > > > and not add all the available planets > > > with us to the list. > > > If 7 Planets have to be taken ,then why do RP's at all, > > > the list of 7 planets is already ready with us. > > > I feel Ascendant Lord at time of Judgement, Star Lord > > > of Moon, Sign Lord of Moon and Day Lord primarily. > > > Ascendant star lord may be taken secondarily,and > > > Rahu and Ketu if connected to the above RP Lords, > > > > > > I do not think Sublord should be taken as RP,on the > > > contrary the RPs should be connected to fix the > > > Sub Lord. Taking Sublord of Lagna as the pointer,to > > > match from the available Rps, to rectify the > > > Birth time, is I believe a very old method, and > > > nothing new. > > > > > > The above are my personal comments, not sure > > > what the experts feel about it. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " jaffnaman23 " <jaffnaman23@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear KP Lovers, > > > > > > > > Thanks for making me a member of this group. > > > > > > > > I am a ''Student of KP System'' - have been learning KP system > by > > > > reading KSK's books, Articles from ''KP year Books'' (from > another > > > KP > > > > Lover) and participating in few other Astrology-Groups. > > > > > > > > First of all I want to thank Mr. Raichur for making the KP- > software > > > > available free ,in this group file section. THANK YOU ! > > > > > > > > I spent some time in going through the ''Articles'' in the File > > > section. > > > > > > > > I found that in some articles, Sublords of the Lagna & The Moon > > > were > > > > taken for the RP, so with the Day-lord, the total Number of RP > > > would be > > > > 7. And, there are only 9 planets (not considering Nept, uranus > & ?? > > > > Pluto). The worst will be when Rahu/Ketu acts as an Agent for > > > other two > > > > left over planets, making All 9 planets as RP. > > > > > > > > I like to know how many of this group members agree to take > Sublord > > > also > > > > for RP. > > > > > > > > Regarding the studies on ''Birth Time Rectification'' by Mr. > > > Rangarajan > > > > Krishnamurthy: > > > > > > > > I like to know whether he checked that whether there were ANY > > > Delivery > > > > of Babies in the Hospitals he mentioned ( In India, still > Mothers > > > > deliver their Babies at their home without getting admitted to > any > > > > Hospitals ) during the Time period he mentioned (according to > the > > > method > > > > used in each study) as No Child-birth can happen or so. > > > > > > > > As I said there are Home-Deliveries, ''No Child > Birth/Delivery'' in > > > the > > > > Hospitals, does NOT mean that there were NO Child-BIRTH during > that > > > > particular time period ,and therefore, does not prove the > > > method/methods > > > > effective or Correct. > > > > > > > > But, a single Delivery in any of the Hospital will prove that > the > > > method > > > > is wrong!! > > > > > > > > Recently, I read about a Method for ''Birth Time > Rectification'' > > > using > > > > the SubSublord of Lagna instead of Sublord (I haven't got / > read > > > those > > > > Books yet, so I can't write the Method here). Also, a method to > > > check > > > > the Sex of the Native, for the Birth Time Rectification. > > > > > > > > It would be better if this method too get varified. > > > > > > > > Please note I am not criticizing anyone's Method or finding > fault > > > with > > > > anyone, I just want to know whether these methods really work. > > > > > > > > Please don't mistake me ! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > JaffnaMan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > > > > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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