TIMING OF RAMAYANA

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Reproduced below is extract of a mail I saw during net

surfing.

 

" I would like to share a few factual details about the

life of Lord Rama through this mail. In case you are

interested in knowing about the actual dates of the

happening of various events during the life time of

Lord Rama - please continue to read. I have found the

precise dates of happening of various events during

the lifetime of Lord Ram from his birth to the age of

39 years when he returned from 14 year's exile.

Maharishi Valmiki, who wrote Ramayana, was

contemporary of Lord Ram. While narrating the events

of lifetime of Lord Ram, Valmiki has incidentally

mentioned the position of planets in the sky at

different places. For instance, the position of all

the planets (visible with unaided eye) has been

mentioned for the date of birth of Lord Ram. Later,

while mentioning that Lord Ram was sent to exile for

14 years on his 25th birthday, the position of planets

in the sky has been mentioned again for that day.

Moving forward, it has been stated that on the

amavasya (no moon day) of the 10th month of the 13th

year of his exile he fought a battle with Khar and

Dushan and on that day a solar eclipse was seen from

Panchwati. Not only a solar eclipse occurred but the

planets were arranged in the sky in a particular

manner. Going ahead, he mantions that six months later

when Ram killed Bali on the Amavasya of Ashad of the

14th year of exile, another solar eclipse was visible

in the morning sky and after five months when Hanuman

went to meet Sita at Lanka, a lunar eclipse was

witnessed in the evening. Besides these several other

planetary positions have also been mentioned at

different other places.

It is imporatant to know that planetary positions keep

changing every day in the sky and they do not repeat

for Lakhs of years!! Moreover, if we know the position

of all the planets in the sky, then they refer to one

and only one date in history.

The effort to provide dates to the planetary positions

mentioned in  Ramayana and other vedic literature

began with legendary Bal Gangadhar Tilak in his well

known book 'Orion'. However, the efforts made so far

were based on manual computations. Since one

revolution of these planets is completed in a highly

complex fractional number, it is difficult to arrive

at the accurate day and time in history. But in late

90s many software were developed to track the position

of planets in the sky and with these software,

planets' position at any given point of time in the

sky can be known.

By using a powerful planetarium software, I found that

the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana for the

date of birth of Lord Ram had occurred in the sky at

around 12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC. It was the

ninth day of the Shukla Paksh of Chaitra month too.

Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord

Ram, the position of planets in the sky tallies with

their description in Ramayana. Again, on the amavasya

of the 10th month of the 13th year of exile the solar

eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular

arrangement of planets in the sky was visible. ( Date

comes to 7th October 5077 BC). Even the occurrence of

subsequent two eclipses also tally with the respective

description in Valmiki Ramayan. (Date of Hanuman's

meeting Sita at Lanka was 12th September 5076 BC). In

this manner the entire sequence of the planetary

positions gets verified and all the dates can be

precisely determined.

The entire dating has been conducted objectively

because the software does not permit any manipulation

and the verses of Ramayana are also free of any

doubts. Leading scientists and those in this field

have appreciated this work. Since the entire sequence

tallies, it proves that all the observations in

theRamayana were actual recordings and not

conjectures.

The indologist suggested that I should have some

archaeological evidence in support of these dates

because for western historians these dates are too old

to be accepted! By god's grace I came across an

interesting  archaeological evidence also and I give

it's details in forthcoming paras.

About a few months back NASA had photographed an

ancient bridge like structure between India and Sri

Lanka and stated that it appeared to be manmade. Most

of our historians and theologists jumped on the story

and said it was related to Lord Ram. Later on NASA

denied having made any statement as to how the bridge

got built etc. The enthusiasm died soon and nothing

could be conculded since we were trying to prove that

it was built millions of years ago.

Just analyse the situation. Suppose you build your

house with stones, which are millions of years old -

Does your house also becomes millions of years

old?Answer is a clear 'No'.

This was the mistake we were making while trying to

claim the ancient bridge and the antiquity of Lord Ram

to millions of years ago. Actually, the remains of the

bridge, which Lord Ram had built are still available

at a place called ' Chedu Karai' in Tamil Nadu.

'Chedu' means 'Setu' ( bridge) and 'Karai' means

'corner'. Interestingly, these remains of the bridge

are available at the depth of about 10 feet below the

water and these are about 1.5  kilometer inside the

sea.

We are all aware that the rise of sea level, ever

since the end of the last ice age (about 16000 BC), is

a continuous phenomenon. There is scientific unanimity

today that at the end of the last Ice age (which

lasted about 1,20,000 Years) the sea level was about

120 meters below the present level. After that, earth

entered the warming phase and Ice started melting. The

level of sea started rising. The most interesting

thing here is that the depth of sea between India and

Sri Lanka is just 6-13 meters. It is not more than 13

meters deep at any place.  Hence, at the end of last

Ice age (16000 BC) India and Sri Lanka were connected

by land.

The sea level started to rise gradually and again the

scientific data suggests that it reached the level of

14 meters as late as 8000 Years ago. This clearly

means that what we call as Palk Strait today came into

existence only around 6000 BC. Water rose to a level

where it was seen above the shallow land between India

and Sri Lanka only around 6000 BC. The data is correct

to the extent of +/- 1500 years.

It is all available at the website of National

Geophysical Data Centre, USA.

Hence, if the narration in Ramayana is to be believed

that Rama's army crossed the sea to reach Lanka, it

has to be an event of Post 6000 BC era.

Further, the precise level at which the `remains of

the bridge' built by Lord Rama can be measured and

exact date of building the bridge can be ascertained

because the rate of rise of sea level is known now

very precisely.

All these findings have been published as a book

titled " Dating the era of Lord Ram " (By Rupa & Co,

Delhi). "

 

I do not wish to dispute the scientific corelation

with respect to Ice Age etc but want to draw attention

to Hindu division of Yugas. Duration of Kalyug is said

to be 4,32,000 years and earlier yugas were in the

ratio of 1:2:3:4 for Kalyug, Dwapar, Treta and Satyug

respectively. Under such circumstances, the timings do

not appear to be correct. Further, the four yugas

together (43,20,000 years) comprise of a Mahayuga

which happens to be the LCM of all planetary movement

through the cosmos.

 

If so, finally, what is the age of Vedas?

 

While I apologise for the length of this mail, views

of learned members are solicited.

 

Regards,

Amitabh

 

 

 

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Dear Mr. Amitabh, It is really a great job done. I am very delighted to read such an interesting and enlightening mail. I congratulate you on the good work done. Good wishes, AnurodhAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote: Reproduced below is extract of a mail I saw during net surfing. "I would like to share a few factual details about the life of Lord Rama through this mail. In case you are interested in knowing about the actual dates of the happening of various

events during the life time of Lord Rama - please continue to read. I have found the precise dates of happening of various events during the lifetime of Lord Ram from his birth to the age of 39 years when he returned from 14 year's exile. Maharishi Valmiki, who wrote Ramayana, was contemporary of Lord Ram. While narrating the events of lifetime of Lord Ram, Valmiki has incidentally mentioned the position of planets in the sky at different places. For instance, the position of all the planets (visible with unaided eye) has been mentioned for the date of birth of Lord Ram. Later, while mentioning that Lord Ram was sent to exile for 14 years on his 25th birthday, the position of planets in the sky has been mentioned again for that day. Moving forward, it has been stated that on the amavasya (no moon day) of the 10th month of the 13th year of his exile he fought a battle with Khar and Dushan and on that

day a solar eclipse was seen from Panchwati. Not only a solar eclipse occurred but the planets were arranged in the sky in a particular manner. Going ahead, he mantions that six months later when Ram killed Bali on the Amavasya of Ashad of the 14th year of exile, another solar eclipse was visible in the morning sky and after five months when Hanuman went to meet Sita at Lanka, a lunar eclipse was witnessed in the evening. Besides these several other planetary positions have also been mentioned at different other places. It is imporatant to know that planetary positions keep changing every day in the sky and they do not repeat for Lakhs of years!! Moreover, if we know the position of all the planets in the sky, then they refer to one and only one date in history. The effort to provide dates to the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana and other vedic literature began with legendary Bal

Gangadhar Tilak in his well known book 'Orion'. However, the efforts made so far were based on manual computations. Since one revolution of these planets is completed in a highly complex fractional number, it is difficult to arrive at the accurate day and time in history. But in late 90s many software were developed to track the position of planets in the sky and with these software, planets' position at any given point of time in the sky can be known. By using a powerful planetarium software, I found that the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana for the date of birth of Lord Ram had occurred in the sky at around 12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC. It was the ninth day of the Shukla Paksh of Chaitra month too. Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord Ram, the position of planets in the sky tallies with their description in Ramayana. Again, on the amavasya of the 10th month of the 13th

year of exile the solar eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular arrangement of planets in the sky was visible. ( Date comes to 7th October 5077 BC). Even the occurrence of subsequent two eclipses also tally with the respective description in Valmiki Ramayan. (Date of Hanuman's meeting Sita at Lanka was 12th September 5076 BC). In this manner the entire sequence of the planetary positions gets verified and all the dates can be precisely determined. The entire dating has been conducted objectively because the software does not permit any manipulation and the verses of Ramayana are also free of any doubts. Leading scientists and those in this field have appreciated this work. Since the entire sequence tallies, it proves that all the observations in theRamayana were actual recordings and not conjectures. The indologist suggested that I should have some archaeological evidence in support of

these dates because for western historians these dates are too old to be accepted! By god's grace I came across an interesting archaeological evidence also and I give it's details in forthcoming paras. About a few months back NASA had photographed an ancient bridge like structure between India and Sri Lanka and stated that it appeared to be manmade. Most of our historians and theologists jumped on the story and said it was related to Lord Ram. Later on NASA denied having made any statement as to how the bridge got built etc. The enthusiasm died soon and nothing could be conculded since we were trying to prove that it was built millions of years ago. Just analyse the situation. Suppose you build your house with stones, which are millions of years old - Does your house also becomes millions of years old?Answer is a clear 'No'. This was the mistake we were making while trying to claim the

ancient bridge and the antiquity of Lord Ram to millions of years ago. Actually, the remains of the bridge, which Lord Ram had built are still available at a place called ' Chedu Karai' in Tamil Nadu. 'Chedu' means 'Setu' ( bridge) and 'Karai' means 'corner'. Interestingly, these remains of the bridge are available at the depth of about 10 feet below the water and these are about 1.5 kilometer inside the sea. We are all aware that the rise of sea level, ever since the end of the last ice age (about 16000 BC), is a continuous phenomenon. There is scientific unanimity today that at the end of the last Ice age (which lasted about 1,20,000 Years) the sea level was about 120 meters below the present level. After that, earth entered the warming phase and Ice started melting. The level of sea started rising. The most interesting thing here is that the depth of sea between India and Sri Lanka is just

6-13 meters. It is not more than 13 meters deep at any place. Hence, at the end of last Ice age (16000 BC) India and Sri Lanka were connected by land. The sea level started to rise gradually and again the scientific data suggests that it reached the level of 14 meters as late as 8000 Years ago. This clearly means that what we call as Palk Strait today came into existence only around 6000 BC. Water rose to a level where it was seen above the shallow land between India and Sri Lanka only around 6000 BC. The data is correct to the extent of +/- 1500 years. It is all available at the website of National Geophysical Data Centre, USA. Hence, if the narration in Ramayana is to be believed that Rama's army crossed the sea to reach Lanka, it has to be an event of Post 6000 BC era. Further, the precise level at which the `remains of the bridge' built by Lord Rama can be measured and exact date of

building the bridge can be ascertained because the rate of rise of sea level is known now very precisely. All these findings have been published as a book titled "Dating the era of Lord Ram" (By Rupa & Co, Delhi)." I do not wish to dispute the scientific corelation with respect to Ice Age etc but want to draw attention to Hindu division of Yugas. Duration of Kalyug is said to be 4,32,000 years and earlier yugas were in the ratio of 1:2:3:4 for Kalyug, Dwapar, Treta and Satyug respectively. Under such circumstances, the timings do not appear to be correct. Further, the four yugas together (43,20,000 years) comprise of a Mahayuga which happens to be the LCM of all planetary movement through the cosmos. If so, finally, what is the age of Vedas? While I apologise for the length of this mail, views of learned members are solicited. Regards, Amitabh

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Dear Anurodh,

 

Thanks for your views...in fact, so far, I personally

have not done any work on timing the Ramayana. I had

merely seen the mail while surfing one of the sites on

the net and was intrigued by the contents. Many

questions came to my mind.

 

The contents of the reproduced mail when related to

current developments of modern science (Darwin's

Theory of Evolution; Age of the planet we are living

on and development of human race as a whole,

metaphysics, theology etc etc)contradict one another.

 

The author of the mail for one dates the Ramayana

happennings to be only 8000 or so years old. If we

follow the Yugas advocated by our ancestors the

Ramayan must be traced back to around 870,000 years.

We are said to be around 5000 years into Kaliyug.

 

Following recent excavations off Dwarka coast in

Gujarat, these remains have been dated back to around

2500 - 3000 years.

 

Western science does not talk about anything

substantial about human life before the last Ice Age!

 

It would be great if learned members can share their

knowldege.

 

Regards,

Amitabh

 

--- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote:

 

> Dear All,

>

> I have found the mail worth reading about the job

> done by Mr. Amitabh to date the happenings of

> Ramayana.

>

> I am sharing with all you.

>

> regards,

>

> Anurodh

>

> Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote: To:

> K_P_System

> Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a

> Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:18:43 +0000 (GMT)

> TIMING OF RAMAYANA

>

> Reproduced below

> is extract of a mail I saw during net

> surfing.

>

> " I would like to share a few factual details about

> the

> life of Lord Rama through this mail. In case you

> are

> interested in knowing about the actual dates of the

> happening of various events during the life time of

> Lord Rama - please continue to read. I have found

> the

> precise dates of happening of various events during

> the lifetime of Lord Ram from his birth to the age

> of

> 39 years when he returned from 14 year's exile.

> Maharishi Valmiki, who wrote Ramayana, was

> contemporary of Lord Ram. While narrating the

> events

> of lifetime of Lord Ram, Valmiki has incidentally

> mentioned the position of planets in the sky at

> different places. For instance, the position of all

> the planets (visible with unaided eye) has been

> mentioned for the date of birth of Lord Ram. Later,

> while mentioning that Lord Ram was sent to exile

> for

> 14 years on his 25th birthday, the position of

> planets

> in the sky has been mentioned again for that day.

> Moving forward, it has been stated that on the

> amavasya (no moon day) of the 10th month of the

> 13th

> year of his exile he fought a battle with Khar and

> Dushan and on that day a solar eclipse was seen

> from

> Panchwati. Not only a solar eclipse occurred but

> the

> planets were arranged in the sky in a particular

> manner. Going ahead, he mantions that six months

> later

> when Ram killed Bali on the Amavasya of Ashad of

> the

> 14th year of exile, another solar eclipse was

> visible

> in the morning sky and after five months when

> Hanuman

> went to meet Sita at Lanka, a lunar eclipse was

> witnessed in the evening. Besides these several

> other

> planetary positions have also been mentioned at

> different other places.

> It is imporatant to know that planetary positions

> keep

> changing every day in the sky and they do not

> repeat

> for Lakhs of years!! Moreover, if we know the

> position

> of all the planets in the sky, then they refer to

> one

> and only one date in history.

> The effort to provide dates to the planetary

> positions

> mentioned in Ramayana and other vedic literature

> began with legendary Bal Gangadhar Tilak in his

> well

> known book 'Orion'. However, the efforts made so

> far

> were based on manual computations. Since one

> revolution of these planets is completed in a

> highly

> complex fractional number, it is difficult to

> arrive

> at the accurate day and time in history. But in

> late

> 90s many software were developed to track the

> position

> of planets in the sky and with these software,

> planets' position at any given point of time in the

> sky can be known.

> By using a powerful planetarium software, I found

> that

> the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana for

> the

> date of birth of Lord Ram had occurred in the sky

> at

> around 12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC. It was

> the

> ninth day of the Shukla Paksh of Chaitra month too.

> Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord

> Ram, the position of planets in the sky tallies

> with

> their description in Ramayana. Again, on the

> amavasya

> of the 10th month of the 13th year of exile the

> solar

> eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular

> arrangement of planets in the sky was visible. (

> Date

> comes to 7th October 5077 BC). Even the occurrence

> of

> subsequent two eclipses also tally with the

> respective

> description in Valmiki Ramayan. (Date of Hanuman's

> meeting Sita at Lanka was 12th September 5076 BC).

> In

> this manner the entire sequence of the planetary

> positions gets verified and all the dates can be

> precisely determined.

> The entire dating has been conducted objectively

> because the software does not permit any

> manipulation

> and the verses of Ramayana are also free of any

> doubts. Leading scientists and those in this field

> have appreciated this work. Since the entire

> sequence

> tallies, it proves that all the observations in

> theRamayana were actual recordings and not

> conjectures.

> The indologist suggested that I should have some

> archaeological evidence in support of these dates

> because for western historians these dates are too

> old

> to be accepted! By god's grace I came across an

> interesting archaeological evidence also and I

> give

> it's details in forthcoming paras.

> About a few months back NASA had photographed an

> ancient bridge like structure between India and Sri

> Lanka and stated that it appeared to be manmade.

> Most

> of our historians and theologists jumped on the

> story

> and said it was related to Lord Ram. Later on NASA

> denied having made any statement as to how the

> bridge

> got built etc. The enthusiasm died soon and nothing

> could be conculded since we were trying to prove

> that

> it was built millions of years ago.

> Just analyse the situation. Suppose you build your

> house with stones, which are millions of years old

> -

> Does your house also becomes millions of years

> old?Answer is a clear 'No'.

> This was the mistake we were making while trying to

> claim the ancient bridge and the antiquity of Lord

> Ram

> to millions of years ago. Actually, the remains of

> the

> bridge, which Lord Ram had built are still

> available

> at a place called ' Chedu Karai' in Tamil Nadu.

> 'Chedu' means 'Setu' ( bridge) and 'Karai' means

> 'corner'. Interestingly, these remains of the

> bridge

> are available at the depth of about 10 feet below

> the

> water and these are about 1.5 kilometer inside the

> sea.

> We are all aware that the rise of sea level, ever

> since the end of the last ice age (about 16000 BC),

> is

> a continuous phenomenon. There is scientific

> unanimity

> today that at the end of the last Ice age (which

> lasted about 1,20,000 Years) the sea level was

> about

> 120 meters below the present level. After that,

> earth

> entered the warming phase and Ice started melting.

> The

> level of sea started rising. The most interesting

> thing here is that the depth of sea between India

> and

> Sri Lanka is just 6-13 meters. It is not more than

> 13

> meters deep at any place. Hence, at the end of

> last

> Ice age (16000 BC) India and Sri Lanka were

> connected

> by land.

> The sea level started to rise gradually and again

> the

>

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