Some Black Magic done on me.......

October 11, 2009

One Member from this Group has tried some black Magic on me last night. I warn the member not to do this again, because this time I will see to it that not even his two year old grandchild is spared, and his whole race is finished within 6 months, leaving no trace of his descendant or ancestry , for good. I assure you, I can better any type of Black Magic if I get down to contending it. And not even re-send it back to you, but also send some additional ghouls alongwith, for your discomfort and company.

Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my advise to the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so stay away please....before its too late to retrack my steps.

Bhaskar.

October 12, 2009

Bhaskar ji What happened , really you face such problem,What people get from black magic.RegardsDr Mishra--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Some Black Magic done on me....... Received: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 7:01 PM

One Member from this Group has tried some black Magic on me last night. I warn the member not to do this again, because this time I will see to it that not even his two year old grandchild is spared, and his whole race is finished within 6 months, leaving no trace of his descendant or ancestry , for good. I assure you, I can better any type of Black Magic if I get down to contending it. And not even re-send it back to you, but also send some additional ghouls alongwith, for your discomfort and company.

Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my advise to the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so stay away please....before its too late to retrack my steps.

Bhaskar.

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October 12, 2009

Dear Mishra ji,

Jo jaise karega waise bharega aur payega. Apne ko kya karna hai. We must

always be protected with good Karmas and the power of God and not

indulge in such things, lest we fall down from our spiritual states. But

some people are after temporary pleasures to their " chit " which gets

excited only by giving trouble to others. They need to be taught a

lesson coz otherwise they do not understand. And actually they get

nothing in return except some temporary happiness at suffering of others

whom they trouble, an instead in return take back bagfuls of " paap

karmas " on their heads for which they will have to pay back in

instalments for the next 1000 years. They do not understand the

implications which they will create on themselves.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Akhil Mishra

<astro6301 wrote:

>

> Bhaskar ji

>

> What happened , really you face such problem,What people get

from black magic.

> Regards

> Dr Mishra

>

> --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Some Black Magic done on me.......

>

> Received: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 7:01 PM

>

One Member from this Group has tried some black Magic on me last

night.. I warn the member not to do this again, because this time I will

see to it that not even his two year old grandchild is spared, and his

whole race is finished within 6 months, leaving no trace of his

descendant or ancestry , for good. I assure you, I can better any type

of Black Magic if I get down to contending it. And not even re-send it

back to you, but also send some additional ghouls alongwith, for your

discomfort and company.

>

> Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my

advise to the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so stay

away please.....before its too late to retrack my steps.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

________________

> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to

Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

>

October 12, 2009

Dear Doc,Do you believe in such practices as a research doctor?I am surprised and curious aswell.......Love and regards,gopi. , Akhil Mishra <astro6301 wrote:>> Bhaskar ji> > What happened , really you face such problem,What people get from black magic.> Regards> Dr Mishra> > --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Some Black Magic done on me.......> > Received: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 7:01 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Member from this Group has tried some black Magic on me last night.. I warn the member not to do this again, because this time I will see to it that not even his two year old grandchild is spared, and his whole race is finished within 6 months, leaving no trace of his descendant or ancestry , for good. I assure you, I can better any type of Black Magic if I get down to contending it. And not even re-send it back to you, but also send some additional ghouls alongwith, for your discomfort and company. > > Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my advise to the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so stay away please.....before its too late to retrack my steps. > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.>

October 12, 2009

One cannot but believe, if there are many such instances in his circle

of contacts or relatives or own house. One cannot help but believe in

these. It is very much a part of a of the Indian cultutal setup, and is

being used throughout India , which one cannot deny . Because a man on a

island has never seen the television, would not deny its existence. This

is quite normal and a regualr hapennings in small towns like Bikaner and

even big cities like Calcutta. If one actually wishes to see this, then

go to Mehandipur Balaji, a Hanuman temple in rajasthan, but go there

only if you have the strength of spirit or else if you see the cases

coming there for cure, you will fall unconscious out of fear.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " gopalakrishna "

<gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> Dear Doc,

> Do you believe in such practices as a research doctor?I am surprised

and

> curious aswell.......

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , Akhil Mishra

> astro6301@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar ji

> >

> > What happened , really you face such problem,What people get

> from black magic.

> > Regards

> > Dr Mishra

> >

> > --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > Some Black Magic done on

me.......

> >

> > Received: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 7:01 PM

> >

> > One Member from this Group has tried some black

> Magic on me last night.. I warn the member not to do this again,

because

> this time I will see to it that not even his two year old grandchild

is

> spared, and his whole race is finished within 6 months, leaving no

trace

> of his descendant or ancestry , for good. I assure you, I can better

any

> type of Black Magic if I get down to contending it. And not even

re-send

> it back to you, but also send some additional ghouls alongwith, for

your

> discomfort and company.

> >

> > Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my

> advise to the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so

stay

> away please.....before its too late to retrack my steps.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> ________________

> > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to

> Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

> >

>

October 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,How do you find out if any black magic is done and if done who has done it? Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Some Black Magic done on me....... Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:01 PM

One Member from this Group has tried some black Magic on me last night. I warn the member not to do this again, because this time I will see to it that not even his two year old grandchild is spared, and his whole race is finished within 6 months, leaving no trace of his descendant or ancestry , for good. I assure you, I can better any type of Black Magic if I get down to contending it. And not even re-send it back to you, but also send some additional ghouls alongwith, for your discomfort and company.

Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my advise to the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so stay away please....before its too late to retrack my steps.

Bhaskar.

October 12, 2009

Dear Sunil ji,

There are many ways it can manifest -

for ex. red Blood may appear from nowhere on your clothes and make your

shirt wet at many places.

In morning when you get up you may find needles in your pillow, or other

stuff under your pillow.

Your clothes inside the cupboard may start burning of no reasons.

Etc.

There are many such ways ...

What happened to me and how I found out who has done it is a too

personal and confidential affair if revealed then some techniques which

must not be commonly told would be used wantonly by unscruplous few.

hope this answers partly..

kind regards,

Bhaskar.

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> How do you find out if any black magic is done and if done who has

done it?

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

> --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Some Black Magic done on me.......

>

> Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:01 PM

>

One Member from this Group has tried some black Magic on me last

night. I warn the member not to do this again, because this time I will

see to it that not even his two year old grandchild is spared, and his

whole race is finished within 6 months, leaving no trace of his

descendant or ancestry , for good. I assure you, I can better any type

of Black Magic if I get down to contending it. And not even re-send it

back to you, but also send some additional ghouls alongwith, for your

discomfort and company.

>

> Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my

advise to the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so stay

away please....before its too late to retrack my steps.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

October 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar,

No Magic, be it black or white, shall ever effect a person who devotes himself to a righteous path and keeps virtues, so why do you worry.

bhoot pischach nikat nahin aave, mahabeer jab naam sunave

nashe rog hare sab peera, japat nirantar hanumat beera

best wishes,

Mouji--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Some Black Magic done on me....... Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 3:02 PM

Dear Sunil ji,There are many ways it can manifest -for ex. red Blood may appear from nowhere on your clothes and make yourshirt wet at many places.In morning when you get up you may find needles in your pillow, or otherstuff under your pillow.Your clothes inside the cupboard may start burning of no reasons.Etc.There are many such ways ...What happened to me and how I found out who has done it is a toopersonal and confidential affair if revealed then some techniques whichmust not be commonly told would be used wantonly by unscruplous few.hope this answers partly..kind regards,Bhaskar.

October 12, 2009

Respected Bhaskarji,

I donot know much about blackmagic,just a querry how can we makeout who has done the blackmagic upon us? in your case did you able to find the culprit?

Regards.

Vandana Mishra--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Some Black Magic done on me........ Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 5:06 AM

Dear Mishra ji,Jo jaise karega waise bharega aur payega. Apne ko kya karna hai. We mustalways be protected with good Karmas and the power of God and notindulge in such things, lest we fall down from our spiritual states. Butsome people are after temporary pleasures to their "chit" which getsexcited only by giving trouble to others. They need to be taught alesson coz otherwise they do not understand. And actually they getnothing in return except some temporary happiness at suffering of otherswhom they trouble, an instead in return take back bagfuls of "paapkarmas" on their heads for which they will have to pay back ininstalments for the next 1000 years. They do not understand theimplications which they will create on themselves.regards,Bhaskar..

October 12, 2009

what's this ... fun or a true complain.

regards,

Utkal.

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> How do you find out if any black magic is done and if done who has done it?

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

> --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> Some Black Magic done on me.......

>

> Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:01 PM

>

> One Member from this Group has tried some black Magic on me

last night. I warn the member not to do this again, because this time I will see

to it that not even his two year old grandchild is spared, and his whole race is

finished within 6 months, leaving no trace of his descendant or ancestry , for

good. I assure you, I can better any type of Black Magic if I get down to

contending it. And not even re-send it back to you, but also send some

additional ghouls alongwith, for your discomfort and company.

>

> Do not meddle in this evil, and do not force me into it. This is my advise to

the member. I am guarded by the fiercest of keepers , so stay away

please....before its too late to retrack my steps.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

October 12, 2009

Respected Bhaskarji,

astrologically how can we make out that the person is into doing some black magic.?or prone to get affected by it?

looking up for guidance.

Thanks.Regards.

Vandana Mishra--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Some Black Magic done on me........ Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 6:17 AM

One cannot but believe, if there are many such instances in his circleof contacts or relatives or own house. One cannot help but believe inthese. It is very much a part of a of the Indian cultutal setup, and isbeing used throughout India , which one cannot deny . Because a man on aisland has never seen the television, would not deny its existence. Thisis quite normal and a regualr hapennings in small towns like Bikaner andeven big cities like Calcutta. If one actually wishes to see this, thengo to Mehandipur Balaji, a Hanuman temple in rajasthan, but go thereonly if you have the strength of spirit or else if you see the casescoming there for cure, you will fall unconscious out of fear.regards/Bhaskar.

October 12, 2009

Dear Utpal ji, //> what's this ... fun or a true complain.// Don't bother. Try to see whether it can be used for an informative knowledge sharing session on the same subject. Here is a prayer - now proceed! Yo anthareekshena patitam divam yaschati sarpati Bhoomi yo manyate natham tam pisacham pradarsaya (Atharva Veda)[Oh! God! Show me those malefic demons (erroneous info) traveling through the air (as sound - from word to word, from mouth to mouth) thinking that all the three worlds (past-present-future) are under them! I dedicate my hardwork for that (let the capability to expose them come to me!)] Aradaratim niritim parograhim kravyadaH pisachan Raksho yat sarvam durbhutaH tat tamaivapahanmasi (Atharva Veda)[We the children of God, destory Niriti the goddess of sin, destroy the malefic demons (i.e. destroy the erroneous info). We kill the ignorance and tear away the curtain of darkness! (please provide us the power to continue doing the same!)]Love and regards,Sreenadh , "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi wrote:>> what's this ... fun or a true complain.> > regards,> Utkal.

October 12, 2009

Dear Vandana ji,

This is a vast subject, and not our cup of tea. This must be left to the

Experts.

For us its better to have a Guru who can handle such matters (Like in my

case). I remember about 2oyears back too I suffered like this, and met a

Hindu who looks after a dargah in Delhi, who guided me to my problems. I

had suffered from some attacks from a old widow in our distant family,

and this Hindu Maulavi (WWhatever they call at Dargah), he told me that

" If You want to know this I will show the persons face in your own

hands). I was too scared that time to say " Yes " to him and did not wish

to be the part of any such rite. This same thing was confirmed by my

actual Mantra Guru 5 years later, who also told me the same thing, but

he forbade me to ever think of revenge. Yesterday too I got the clues

from my Guru itself. But was not afraid this time and prepared. (Like

Mouji Sahab said why must You worry- I actually stopped worrying since

few years)

The Kerala system is very much good to guide one through Prashna about

this. Usually the house where Mandi is situated, is involved. A weak

Saturn, and combination of Mandi with Saturn or Mars (Shakti Dieties

like Chamundi) or the Sun (Bhuta gana of Shiva) etc, give clues about

same.

The position of Gulika too gives inferences.

In Dev Prashnas, the Navamsha positions guide to the source of this with

use of amsas and sphutas.

Planets too offer inferences ( Sun- Snakes, Moon- Kinnaras, female

yakshas, Mars- evil spirits, gandharvas, Jupiter- Yakshas, Venus-

witches, female ghosts, Saturn- Goblins, etc.)

The Lagna and the 7th house must be afflicted.

There is another system in KP too, which I was taught by my Guru, but do

not wih to write about all this continously late in the night and then

have bad dreams. Let me do something else now.

regards,

Bhaskar.

October 12, 2009

Thanks Bhaskarji for all the information..even i don't want to you to fell prey to any bad dreams so no further discussion.

sweet dreams.

Vandana Mishra--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Some Black Magic done on me........ Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 5:20 PM

Dear Vandana ji,This is a vast subject, and not our cup of tea. This must be left to theExperts.For us its better to have a Guru who can handle such matters (Like in mycase). I remember about 2oyears back too I suffered like this, and met aHindu who looks after a dargah in Delhi, who guided me to my problems. Ihad suffered from some attacks from a old widow in our distant family,and this Hindu Maulavi (WWhatever they call at Dargah), he told me that"If You want to know this I will show the persons face in your ownhands). I was too scared that time to say "Yes" to him and did not wishto be the part of any such rite. This same thing was confirmed by myactual Mantra Guru 5 years later, who also told me the same thing, buthe forbade me to ever think of revenge. Yesterday too I got the cluesfrom my Guru itself. But was not afraid this time and prepared. (LikeMouji Sahab said why must You

worry- I actually stopped worrying sincefew years)The Kerala system is very much good to guide one through Prashna aboutthis. Usually the house where Mandi is situated, is involved. A weakSaturn, and combination of Mandi with Saturn or Mars (Shakti Dietieslike Chamundi) or the Sun (Bhuta gana of Shiva) etc, give clues aboutsame.The position of Gulika too gives inferences.In Dev Prashnas, the Navamsha positions guide to the source of this withuse of amsas and sphutas.Planets too offer inferences ( Sun- Snakes, Moon- Kinnaras, femaleyakshas, Mars- evil spirits, gandharvas, Jupiter- Yakshas, Venus-witches, female ghosts, Saturn- Goblins, etc.)The Lagna and the 7th house must be afflicted.There is another system in KP too, which I was taught by my Guru, but donot wih to write about all this continously late in the night and thenhave bad dreams. Let me do something else

now.regards,Bhaskar.

October 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,It is said that once somebody did some black magic on Adi Sankaracharya and he had an incurable illness. His disciple suspected black magic to be the cause. The disciple did "Om" japa and Adi Sankaracharya got cured. The man who did the black magic got the illness.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Some Black Magic done on me....... Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 10:20 AM

Dear Vandana ji,

This is a vast subject, and not our cup of tea. This must be left to the

Experts.

For us its better to have a Guru who can handle such matters (Like in my

case). I remember about 2oyears back too I suffered like this, and met a

Hindu who looks after a dargah in Delhi, who guided me to my problems. I

had suffered from some attacks from a old widow in our distant family,

and this Hindu Maulavi (WWhatever they call at Dargah), he told me that

"If You want to know this I will show the persons face in your own

hands). I was too scared that time to say "Yes" to him and did not wish

to be the part of any such rite. This same thing was confirmed by my

actual Mantra Guru 5 years later, who also told me the same thing, but

he forbade me to ever think of revenge. Yesterday too I got the clues

from my Guru itself. But was not afraid this time and prepared. (Like

Mouji Sahab said why must You worry- I actually stopped worrying since

few years)

The Kerala system is very much good to guide one through Prashna about

this. Usually the house where Mandi is situated, is involved. A weak

Saturn, and combination of Mandi with Saturn or Mars (Shakti Dieties

like Chamundi) or the Sun (Bhuta gana of Shiva) etc, give clues about

same.

The position of Gulika too gives inferences.

In Dev Prashnas, the Navamsha positions guide to the source of this with

use of amsas and sphutas.

Planets too offer inferences ( Sun- Snakes, Moon- Kinnaras, female

yakshas, Mars- evil spirits, gandharvas, Jupiter- Yakshas, Venus-

witches, female ghosts, Saturn- Goblins, etc.)

The Lagna and the 7th house must be afflicted.

There is another system in KP too, which I was taught by my Guru, but do

not wih to write about all this continously late in the night and then

have bad dreams. Let me do something else now.

regards,

Bhaskar.

October 13, 2009

Pranams,Mr.Sreenadh ji,I under stand in some cases even in the absence of any chtru one may get succumbed to the evil effects of "Billu" , "Soonyam" etc due to their past 'Aakaami-karma'.I have seen experienced Astrologers like Mr.Bahaskarji cast predictions based on grhasthithi(bhadhaka,6th lord,Rahu and LL) in ones 'Apokilimam' 'panapara' and 'kendra'houses.I request the knower to share their knowledge.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Mon, 12/10/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:sreesog <sreesog Re: Some Black Magic done on me....... Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 10:30 PM

Dear Utpal ji, //> what's this ... fun or a true complain.// Don't bother. Try to see whether it can be used for an informative knowledge sharing session on the same subject. Here is a prayer - now proceed! Yo anthareekshena patitam divam yaschati sarpati Bhoomi yo manyate natham tam pisacham pradarsaya (Atharva Veda)[Oh! God! Show me

those malefic demons (erroneous info) traveling through the air (as sound - from word to word, from mouth to mouth) thinking that all the three worlds (past-present- future) are under them! I dedicate my hardwork for that (let the capability to expose them come to me!)] Aradaratim niritim parograhim kravyadaH pisachan Raksho yat sarvam durbhutaH tat tamaivapahanmasi (Atharva Veda)[We the children of God, destory Niriti the goddess of sin, destroy the malefic demons (i.e. destroy the erroneous info). We kill the ignorance and tear away the curtain of darkness! (please provide us the power to continue doing the same!)]Love

and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "utkal.panigrahi" <utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:>> what's this ... fun or a true complain.> > regards,> Utkal.

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October 13, 2009

Dear Sunil ji,

These hapennings are a part of Life one lives , for many.

I know of many such instances in my circle. The last case I heard was a

marriage where a bride on one day before her marriage, sat for having

lunch ( In such functions few ladies sit together to enjoy the dishes

and mithai as the bride herself feels shy with her face downwards and

not making much movements) . This ladyin our real story when begun

heloing herself with big morsels of the Meetha Pulao (Sweet Rice), and

asked for more than 4-5 big helpings, and ate all this, the ladies

sitting near her got shocked and in a quandary about what was hapenning,

and told one of the elders, andliofted her ghunghat to realise, that

some spirit had overpowered her being, and some good Tantrik was called

to do the needful. In marriage functions this is quite a normal thing,

which is why we Hindus are asked to carry certain objects (Both wife and

husband have to carry this each) like some supaari etc. which is a

detractor to such hapennings and they stay protected. In normal course

too, one is not allowed to eat meethai, or meetha pan and leave the

house late at night, and neither should one sleep after having milk,

without rinsing his mouth . Similarly one must not use hard itra or

perfumes after sunset.

The astral entities get attracted to perfumes and such items and they

get their food only by overpowering natives using these. Since they

cannot eat otherwise. In same way, these astral entities also get smell

of smoke from the Ghee used in Havans and Yagya which forms as a cushion

pad and does not allow them to come near the Pooja sthal.

The Gods too do not eat like we normal people do, they just eat through

their sense of smell when we offer some bhoga to them. Which is why the

elders say, that whatever you offer to the Lord, do not smell it.

regards/Bhaskar.

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> It is said that once somebody did some black magic on Adi

Sankaracharya and he had an incurable illness. His disciple suspected

black magic to be the cause. The disciple did " Om " japa and Adi

Sankaracharya got cured. The man who did the black magic got the

illness.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

> --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Some Black Magic done on

me.......

>

> Monday, October 12, 2009, 10:20 AM

>

Dear Vandana ji,

>

> This is a vast subject, and not our cup of tea. This must be left to

the

>

> Experts.

>

> For us its better to have a Guru who can handle such matters (Like in

my

>

> case). I remember about 2oyears back too I suffered like this, and met

a

>

> Hindu who looks after a dargah in Delhi, who guided me to my problems.

I

>

> had suffered from some attacks from a old widow in our distant family,

>

> and this Hindu Maulavi (WWhatever they call at Dargah), he told me

that

>

> " If You want to know this I will show the persons face in your own

>

> hands). I was too scared that time to say " Yes " to him and did not

wish

>

> to be the part of any such rite. This same thing was confirmed by my

>

> actual Mantra Guru 5 years later, who also told me the same thing, but

>

> he forbade me to ever think of revenge. Yesterday too I got the clues

>

> from my Guru itself. But was not afraid this time and prepared. (Like

>

> Mouji Sahab said why must You worry- I actually stopped worrying since

>

> few years)

>

> The Kerala system is very much good to guide one through Prashna about

>

> this. Usually the house where Mandi is situated, is involved. A weak

>

> Saturn, and combination of Mandi with Saturn or Mars (Shakti Dieties

>

> like Chamundi) or the Sun (Bhuta gana of Shiva) etc, give clues about

>

> same.

>

> The position of Gulika too gives inferences.

>

> In Dev Prashnas, the Navamsha positions guide to the source of this

with

>

> use of amsas and sphutas.

>

> Planets too offer inferences ( Sun- Snakes, Moon- Kinnaras, female

>

> yakshas, Mars- evil spirits, gandharvas, Jupiter- Yakshas, Venus-

>

> witches, female ghosts, Saturn- Goblins, etc.)

>

> The Lagna and the 7th house must be afflicted.

>

> There is another system in KP too, which I was taught by my Guru, but

do

>

> not wih to write about all this continously late in the night and then

>

> have bad dreams. Let me do something else now.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

October 13, 2009

dear friends

as bhaskarji has mentioned rightly, black magic and evil eye is a dangerous

subject which is best if not pursued. to give an allegory it is like a plumber

who cleans the sewerage and dirty drain waters and sometimes he gets asphyxiated

and dies too dealing with the dirt.

during marriage ceremonies, generally from a day before the muhurat both the

bride and the groom are kept indoors in auspicious poojas and rituals and are

not permitted to go outside till marriage.

it is true that adi sankara was subjected to blackmagic, which was cured by one

of his disciples. even vivekananda was subjected to that once. mother teresa

was also exorcised once which is why she was denied sainthood.

however, this subject known as abhichara in vedas was mentioned elaborately

which was used even by some kings and demigods. creating white magic and

casting spells is also part of this subject.

either black or white, magic is a superimposition on the destiny or fate of the

native because of which reason the doer (tantrik or the magician) bears the full

brunt. so naturally if he causes negative suffering to others, he too suffers.

but in rare cases like jesus, shirdisaibaba, ramakrishna, they took the

suffering of others and gods would only be pleased by the superimposition of

making a native free from suffering. for such divine acts, the doer gets the

blessings and extra energies and strength from the god for their selfless

service to the world at large. white magic like vasikaran to get a woman by

deceit is akin to blackmagic and the doer gets negative results and is

unethical.

most practitioners of magic remain single and myself learnt this subject deeply

and as per the advise of gurus and common sense, stick only to healing (curing)

and rarely some white magic is done or spells cast to create a congenial

environment for a native.

bengal and kerala are the two states where there used to be the country's best

known magicians. mehandipur balaji (hanuman) temple in rajasthan and the

chotanikkara bhagawati temple in kerala are two places where any possessed

person or victim of black magic get cured easily. but these places are not

meant for visit by normal people and natives without any problem may refrain

from visiting them.

sea salt is the most simplest cost effective remedy which is used by the

traditional families to remove evil eye and also some red chillies put on coal

etc.

according to ancient scriptures, pratyangira homam is the best and most

effective remedy for evils and black magic.

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji,

>

> These hapennings are a part of Life one lives , for many.

>

> I know of many such instances in my circle. The last case I heard was a

> marriage where a bride on one day before her marriage, sat for having

> lunch ( In such functions few ladies sit together to enjoy the dishes

> and mithai as the bride herself feels shy with her face downwards and

> not making much movements) . This ladyin our real story when begun

> heloing herself with big morsels of the Meetha Pulao (Sweet Rice), and

> asked for more than 4-5 big helpings, and ate all this, the ladies

> sitting near her got shocked and in a quandary about what was hapenning,

> and told one of the elders, andliofted her ghunghat to realise, that

> some spirit had overpowered her being, and some good Tantrik was called

> to do the needful. In marriage functions this is quite a normal thing,

> which is why we Hindus are asked to carry certain objects (Both wife and

> husband have to carry this each) like some supaari etc. which is a

> detractor to such hapennings and they stay protected. In normal course

> too, one is not allowed to eat meethai, or meetha pan and leave the

> house late at night, and neither should one sleep after having milk,

> without rinsing his mouth . Similarly one must not use hard itra or

> perfumes after sunset.

>

> The astral entities get attracted to perfumes and such items and they

> get their food only by overpowering natives using these. Since they

> cannot eat otherwise. In same way, these astral entities also get smell

> of smoke from the Ghee used in Havans and Yagya which forms as a cushion

> pad and does not allow them to come near the Pooja sthal.

>

> The Gods too do not eat like we normal people do, they just eat through

> their sense of smell when we offer some bhoga to them. Which is why the

> elders say, that whatever you offer to the Lord, do not smell it.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> , Sunil Bhattacharjya

> <sunil_bhattacharjya@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> >

> > It is said that once somebody did some black magic on Adi

> Sankaracharya and he had an incurable illness. His disciple suspected

> black magic to be the cause. The disciple did " Om " japa and Adi

> Sankaracharya got cured. The man who did the black magic got the

> illness.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

> >

> > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > Re: Some Black Magic done on

> me.......

> >

> > Monday, October 12, 2009, 10:20 AM

> >

> > Dear Vandana ji,

> >

> > This is a vast subject, and not our cup of tea. This must be left to

> the

> >

> > Experts.

> >

> > For us its better to have a Guru who can handle such matters (Like in

> my

> >

> > case). I remember about 2oyears back too I suffered like this, and met

> a

> >

> > Hindu who looks after a dargah in Delhi, who guided me to my problems.

> I

> >

> > had suffered from some attacks from a old widow in our distant family,

> >

> > and this Hindu Maulavi (WWhatever they call at Dargah), he told me

> that

> >

> > " If You want to know this I will show the persons face in your own

> >

> > hands). I was too scared that time to say " Yes " to him and did not

> wish

> >

> > to be the part of any such rite. This same thing was confirmed by my

> >

> > actual Mantra Guru 5 years later, who also told me the same thing, but

> >

> > he forbade me to ever think of revenge. Yesterday too I got the clues

> >

> > from my Guru itself. But was not afraid this time and prepared. (Like

> >

> > Mouji Sahab said why must You worry- I actually stopped worrying since

> >

> > few years)

> >

> > The Kerala system is very much good to guide one through Prashna about

> >

> > this. Usually the house where Mandi is situated, is involved. A weak

> >

> > Saturn, and combination of Mandi with Saturn or Mars (Shakti Dieties

> >

> > like Chamundi) or the Sun (Bhuta gana of Shiva) etc, give clues about

> >

> > same.

> >

> > The position of Gulika too gives inferences.

> >

> > In Dev Prashnas, the Navamsha positions guide to the source of this

> with

> >

> > use of amsas and sphutas.

> >

> > Planets too offer inferences ( Sun- Snakes, Moon- Kinnaras, female

> >

> > yakshas, Mars- evil spirits, gandharvas, Jupiter- Yakshas, Venus-

> >

> > witches, female ghosts, Saturn- Goblins, etc.)

> >

> > The Lagna and the 7th house must be afflicted.

> >

> > There is another system in KP too, which I was taught by my Guru, but

> do

> >

> > not wih to write about all this continously late in the night and then

> >

> > have bad dreams. Let me do something else now.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

>

October 13, 2009

Respected Pandit-ji,

You had mentioned that

//bengal and kerala are the two states where there used to be

the country's best known magicians.//

Following places may also be included....

Kamakhya, Mayang & Lanka of Assam.

I had personal experiences when my father was targetted by

black magic.

regards

Chakraborty

panditarjun2004 [panditarjun2004] Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Some Black Magic done on me.......

dear friendsas bhaskarji has mentioned rightly, black magic and evil eye is a dangerous subject which is best if not pursued. to give an allegory it is like a plumber who cleans the sewerage and dirty drain waters and sometimes he gets asphyxiated and dies too dealing with the dirt.during marriage ceremonies, generally from a day before the muhurat both the bride and the groom are kept indoors in auspicious poojas and rituals and are not permitted to go outside till marriage.it is true that adi sankara was subjected to blackmagic, which was cured by one of his disciples. even vivekananda was subjected to that once. mother teresa was also exorcised once which is why she was denied sainthood.however, this subject known as abhichara in vedas was mentioned elaborately which was used even by some kings and demigods. creating white magic and casting spells is also part of this subject.either black or white, magic is a superimposition on the destiny or fate of the native because of which reason the doer (tantrik or the magician) bears the full brunt. so naturally if he causes negative suffering to others, he too suffers. but in rare cases like jesus, shirdisaibaba, ramakrishna, they took the suffering of others and gods would only be pleased by the superimposition of making a native free from suffering. for such divine acts, the doer gets the blessings and extra energies and strength from the god for their selfless service to the world at large. white magic like vasikaran to get a woman by deceit is akin to blackmagic and the doer gets negative results and is unethical.most practitioners of magic remain single and myself learnt this subject deeply and as per the advise of gurus and common sense, stick only to healing (curing) and rarely some white magic is done or spells cast to create a congenial environment for a native.bengal and kerala are the two states where there used to be the country's best known magicians. mehandipur balaji (hanuman) temple in rajasthan and the chotanikkara bhagawati temple in kerala are two places where any possessed person or victim of black magic get cured easily. but these places are not meant for visit by normal people and natives without any problem may refrain from visiting them.sea salt is the most simplest cost effective remedy which is used by the traditional families to remove evil eye and also some red chillies put on coal etc.according to ancient scriptures, pratyangira homam is the best and most effective remedy for evils and black magic.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjun , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sunil ji,> > These hapennings are a part of Life one lives , for many.> > I know of many such instances in my circle. The last case I heard was a> marriage where a bride on one day before her marriage, sat for having> lunch ( In such functions few ladies sit together to enjoy the dishes> and mithai as the bride herself feels shy with her face downwards and> not making much movements) . This ladyin our real story when begun> heloing herself with big morsels of the Meetha Pulao (Sweet Rice), and> asked for more than 4-5 big helpings, and ate all this, the ladies> sitting near her got shocked and in a quandary about what was hapenning,> and told one of the elders, andliofted her ghunghat to realise, that> some spirit had overpowered her being, and some good Tantrik was called> to do the needful. In marriage functions this is quite a normal thing,> which is why we Hindus are asked to carry certain objects (Both wife and> husband have to carry this each) like some supaari etc. which is a> detractor to such hapennings and they stay protected. In normal course> too, one is not allowed to eat meethai, or meetha pan and leave the> house late at night, and neither should one sleep after having milk,> without rinsing his mouth . Similarly one must not use hard itra or> perfumes after sunset.> > The astral entities get attracted to perfumes and such items and they> get their food only by overpowering natives using these. Since they> cannot eat otherwise. In same way, these astral entities also get smell> of smoke from the Ghee used in Havans and Yagya which forms as a cushion> pad and does not allow them to come near the Pooja sthal.> > The Gods too do not eat like we normal people do, they just eat through> their sense of smell when we offer some bhoga to them. Which is why the> elders say, that whatever you offer to the Lord, do not smell it.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > , Sunil Bhattacharjya> <sunil_bhattacharjya@> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > It is said that once somebody did some black magic on Adi> Sankaracharya and he had an incurable illness. His disciple suspected> black magic to be the cause. The disciple did "Om" japa and Adi> Sankaracharya got cured. The man who did the black magic got the> illness.> >> > Regards,> >> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> >> >> > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: Some Black Magic done on> me.......> > > > Monday, October 12, 2009, 10:20 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Vandana ji,> >> >> >> > This is a vast subject, and not our cup of tea. This must be left to> the> >> > Experts.> >> >> >> > For us its better to have a Guru who can handle such matters (Like in> my> >> > case). I remember about 2oyears back too I suffered like this, and met> a> >> > Hindu who looks after a dargah in Delhi, who guided me to my problems.> I> >> > had suffered from some attacks from a old widow in our distant family,> >> > and this Hindu Maulavi (WWhatever they call at Dargah), he told me> that> >> > "If You want to know this I will show the persons face in your own> >> > hands). I was too scared that time to say "Yes" to him and did not> wish> >> > to be the part of any such rite. This same thing was confirmed by my> >> > actual Mantra Guru 5 years later, who also told me the same thing, but> >> > he forbade me to ever think of revenge. Yesterday too I got the clues> >> > from my Guru itself. But was not afraid this time and prepared. (Like> >> > Mouji Sahab said why must You worry- I actually stopped worrying since> >> > few years)> >> >> >> > The Kerala system is very much good to guide one through Prashna about> >> > this. Usually the house where Mandi is situated, is involved. A weak> >> > Saturn, and combination of Mandi with Saturn or Mars (Shakti Dieties> >> > like Chamundi) or the Sun (Bhuta gana of Shiva) etc, give clues about> >> > same.> >> >> >> > The position of Gulika too gives inferences.> >> >> >> > In Dev Prashnas, the Navamsha positions guide to the source of this> with> >> > use of amsas and sphutas.> >> >> >> > Planets too offer inferences ( Sun- Snakes, Moon- Kinnaras, female> >> > yakshas, Mars- evil spirits, gandharvas, Jupiter- Yakshas, Venus-> >> > witches, female ghosts, Saturn- Goblins, etc.)> >> >> >> > The Lagna and the 7th house must be afflicted.> >> >> >> > There is another system in KP too, which I was taught by my Guru, but> do> >> > not wih to write about all this continously late in the night and then> >> > have bad dreams. Let me do something else now.> >> >> >> > regards,> >> >> >> > Bhaskar.> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Hi,I read in the book "THE ELEVENTH HOUR", a biography of Swami Rama by his disciple Pandit Rajamani Trigunait that in the south, Madurai is the centre of right path tantra. This was quoted by Swami Rama himself in this book,Regards, Anita--- On Tue, 13/10/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2RE: Re: Some Black Magic done on me......."' '" Tuesday, 13 October, 2009, 6:41 AM

Respected Pandit-ji,

You had mentioned that

//bengal and kerala are the two states where there used to be

the country's best known magicians.//

Following places may also be included....

Kamakhya, Mayang & Lanka of Assam.

I had personal experiences when my father was targetted by

black magic.

regards

Chakraborty

panditarjun2004 [panditarjun 2004 ] Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:50 AMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Some Black Magic done on me.......

dear friendsas bhaskarji has mentioned rightly, black magic and evil eye is a dangerous subject which is best if not pursued. to give an allegory it is like a plumber who cleans the sewerage and dirty drain waters and sometimes he gets asphyxiated and dies too dealing with the dirt.during marriage ceremonies, generally from a day before the muhurat both the bride and the groom are kept indoors in auspicious poojas and rituals and are not permitted to go outside till marriage.it is true that adi sankara was subjected to blackmagic, which was cured by one of his disciples. even vivekananda was subjected to that once. mother teresa was also exorcised once which is why she was denied sainthood.however, this subject known as abhichara in vedas was mentioned elaborately which was used even by some kings and demigods. creating white magic and casting spells is also part of this subject.either black or white, magic is a superimposition on the destiny or fate of the native because of which reason the doer (tantrik or the magician) bears the full brunt. so naturally if he causes negative suffering to others, he too suffers. but in rare cases like jesus, shirdisaibaba, ramakrishna, they took the suffering of others and gods would only be pleased by the superimposition of making a native free from suffering. for such divine acts, the doer gets the blessings and extra energies and strength from the god for their selfless service to the world at large. white magic like vasikaran to get a woman by deceit is akin to blackmagic and the doer gets negative results and is unethical.most practitioners of magic remain single and myself learnt this subject deeply and as per the advise of gurus and common sense, stick only to healing (curing) and rarely some white magic is done or spells cast to create a congenial environment for a native.bengal and kerala are the two states where there used to be the country's best known magicians. mehandipur balaji (hanuman) temple in rajasthan and the chotanikkara bhagawati temple in kerala are two places where any possessed person or victim of black magic get cured easily. but these places are not meant for visit by normal people and natives without any problem may refrain from visiting them.sea salt is the most simplest cost effective remedy which is used by the traditional families to remove evil eye and also some red chillies put on coal etc.according to ancient scriptures, pratyangira homam is the best and most effective remedy for evils and black magic.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Sunil ji,> > These hapennings are a part of Life one lives , for many.> > I know of many such instances in my circle. The last case I heard was a> marriage where a bride on one day before her marriage, sat for having> lunch ( In such functions few ladies sit together to enjoy the dishes> and mithai as the bride herself feels shy with her face downwards and> not making much movements) . This ladyin our real story when begun> heloing herself with big morsels of the Meetha Pulao (Sweet Rice), and> asked for more than 4-5 big helpings, and ate all this, the ladies> sitting near her got shocked and in a quandary about what was hapenning,> and told one of the elders, andliofted her ghunghat to realise, that> some spirit had overpowered her being, and some good Tantrik was called> to do the needful. In marriage functions this is quite a normal thing,> which is why we Hindus are asked to carry certain objects (Both wife and> husband have to carry this each) like some supaari etc. which is a> detractor to such hapennings and they stay protected. In normal course> too, one is not allowed to eat meethai, or meetha pan and leave the> house late at night, and neither should one sleep after having milk,> without rinsing his mouth . Similarly one must not use hard itra or> perfumes after sunset.> > The astral entities get attracted to perfumes and such items and they> get their food only by overpowering natives using these. Since they> cannot eat otherwise. In same way, these astral entities also get smell> of smoke from the Ghee used in Havans and Yagya which forms as a cushion> pad and does not allow them to come near the Pooja sthal.> > The Gods too do not eat like we normal people do, they just eat through> their sense of smell when we offer some bhoga to them. Which is why the> elders say, that whatever you offer to the Lord, do not smell it.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya> <sunil_bhattacharjy a@> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > It is said that once somebody did some black magic on Adi> Sankaracharya and he had an incurable illness. His disciple suspected> black magic to be the cause. The disciple did "Om" japa and Adi> Sankaracharya got cured. The man who did the black magic got the> illness.> >> > Regards,> >> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> >> >> > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Some Black Magic done on> me.......> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, October 12, 2009, 10:20 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Vandana ji,> >> >> >> > This is a vast subject, and not our cup of tea. This must be left to> the> >> > Experts.> >> >> >> > For us its better to have a Guru who can handle such matters (Like in> my> >> > case). I remember about 2oyears back too I suffered like this, and met> a> >> > Hindu who looks after a dargah in Delhi, who guided me to my problems.> I> >> > had suffered from some attacks from a old widow in our distant family,> >> > and this Hindu Maulavi (WWhatever they call at Dargah), he told me> that> >> > "If You want to know this I will show the persons face in your own> >> > hands). I was too scared that time to say "Yes" to him and did not> wish> >> > to be the part of any such rite. This same thing was confirmed by my> >> > actual Mantra Guru 5 years later, who also told me the same thing, but> >> > he forbade me to ever think of revenge. Yesterday too I got the clues> >> > from my Guru itself. But was not afraid this time and prepared. (Like> >> > Mouji Sahab said why must You worry- I actually stopped worrying since> >> > few years)> >> >> >> > The Kerala system is very much good to guide one through Prashna about> >> > this. Usually the house where Mandi is situated, is involved. A weak> >> > Saturn, and combination of Mandi with Saturn or Mars (Shakti Dieties> >> > like Chamundi) or the Sun (Bhuta gana of Shiva) etc, give clues about> >> > same.> >> >> >> > The position of Gulika too gives inferences.> >> >> >> > In Dev Prashnas, the Navamsha positions guide to the source of this> with> >> > use of amsas and sphutas.> >> >> >> > Planets too offer inferences ( Sun- Snakes, Moon- Kinnaras, female> >> > yakshas, Mars- evil spirits, gandharvas, Jupiter- Yakshas, Venus-> >> > witches, female ghosts, Saturn- Goblins, etc.)> >> >> >> > The Lagna and the 7th house must be afflicted.> >> >> >> > There is another system in KP too, which I was taught by my Guru, but> do> >> > not wih to write about all this continously late in the night and then> >> > have bad dreams. Let me do something else now.> >> >> >> > regards,> >> >> >> > Bhaskar.> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Dear Bhaskarji,In the case, which you cited, are you sure that the bride was not very hungry as it is the custom in our side that thebride and the bridegroom have to fast during marriage? Or is it not that she could not resist the good sweet dish? Sometimes there may be misjudgement also. However whatever be the symptoms it is always better to pray. As regards Adi Sankaracharya getting affected by Black magic and Padmapada doing the Om dhyana is given in one of the Sankara Digvijayas.As regards whether the deity eats or not there is a small book on Murti-puja, published by the Gta press. This book has given a Sanskrit verse, according to which the deity accepts the offerings with his/her eyes The deity gets the taste of the offerings only when the devotees eat the Prasad. That is why it is better to distribute the prasad to as many people as

possible. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Some Black Magic done on me....... Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:05 PM