Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dear friends, " Ayanamsha " is a sensitive issue of discussion between various astrologers who follow and have their own favourite ones. Any ayanamsha of ones choice must be left to the individual himself, and none should make the sensitive mistake of trying to advise the other astrologer which one to follow if he is already using one. This can again create heat and unnecessary build up of forceful arguments which we have to avoid at all costs if necessary to maintain a cordial atmosphere in the Group. My favourite Heroine may be " Raveena Tandon " and for you it may be " Katrina Kaif " . If I start explaining you about Raveena Tandon and try to bring out shortcomings in Katrinas persona, then you may obviously not savour this with relish. So lets keep out of advising each other what ayanamsha to use. This is certainly a taboo issue amongst astrologers to be recommended. This has to be experienced and percieved by each one on his own. The matter must be simple. You like Chivas Regal ? Okay Fine. I like Jack Daniells. You drink your brand and I drink mines. But at least we sit together and enjoy the dishes served on the table and the beautiful angels dancing on the floor. . Issue Closed. best wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dear BhaskarJi: The whole idea behind "ayanamsha" is to bring all the charts to the same datum point(0 degree Aries) to account for the percussion of the equinoxes so that predictions can be uniformly applied. I have no problem with astrologer's using different ayanamsas to suit their taste but the problem comes when you apply what they found in their charts to your case when you are using a different ayanamsa. For example, we all accept Dr. B.V. Raman is an expert- but he used a totally different ayanamsa and if we apply whatever conclusions that he has reached based on his experience to our charts based on "Chitra Paksha" ayanamsa - would it work all the time? It would certainly make a big difference especially when the Asc is on the 'sandhi" or very close to it. We all accept that Parasura is the Father of Astrology. Did he use ayanamsa at all or all his predictions were based on extra sense revelations with no link to ayanamsa. To clarify this- as you know in one of the slokas, he says that if the fifth Lord is in the fifth house and the eleventh Lord in the eleventh house, the native will be very rich. Now if we apply this dictum to our previous case, where the Asc is near the sandhi ( I am very sure of the birth time- to the minute assuming that the hospital watch is accurate) and even if the fifth Lord is in the fifth house and the eleventh Lord is in the eleventh house, I cannot say with 100% surety that the native will be rich because I do not know which ayanamsa Parasura used. Because if I change the ayanamsa in my chart, ASc changes, and now the fourth Lord is in the fourth house and tenth Lord in the tenth house giving a different scenario. This is an eternal problem and even if the astrologer is well versed (which by itself is rare) he or she cannot be correct all the time. Regards, anantha krishnan --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Ayanamsha - A sensitive issue Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 4:22 AM Dear friends, "Ayanamsha" is a sensitive issue of discussion between various astrologers who follow and have their own favourite ones. Any ayanamsha of ones choice must be left to the individual himself, and none should make the sensitive mistake of trying to advise the other astrologer which one to follow if he is already using one. This can again create heat and unnecessary build up of forceful arguments which we have to avoid at all costs if necessary to maintain a cordial atmosphere in the Group. My favourite Heroine may be "Raveena Tandon" and for you it may be "Katrina Kaif". If I start explaining you about Raveena Tandon and try to bring out shortcomings in Katrinas persona, then you may obviously not savour this with relish. So lets keep out of advising each other what ayanamsha to use. This is certainly a taboo issue amongst astrologers to be recommended. This has to be experienced and percieved by each one on his own. The matter must be simple. You like Chivas Regal ? Okay Fine. I like Jack Daniells. You drink your brand and I drink mines. But at least we sit together and enjoy the dishes served on the table and the beautiful angels dancing on the floor. . Issue Closed. best wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dear Sirs, What you are saying is very right. But the problem in Astrology is, that there is no ISO ROH, or UL certifications to which all astrologers must comply, and this will not even be possibe in India. Even the ex PM of India, Shri Jawaharlal Nehru once tried doing this, called a meeting of all the Panchang makers in India, but to no avail, as there was no consensus reached, and the meeting ended unconclusively. As regards to the great astrologers using different ayanasmhas and yet being successful, one must not forget that theyb were not only real Astrologers (What must a astrologer be by definition), but also Mini Yogis. Shri BV Raman was a expert in Mantra Shastra, so was Shri Krishnamurthy of KP System, and so was Sri Yukteshwar (A Full fledged Yogi). For them astrology was coupled with intuitions and which ever way they could have approached the chart they could have ended most of the times right in their predictions. Of course for Sri Yukteshwar ji, astrology was just a common mans tool, for he could go , where not even Ravi (the Sun) could reach. In the case of modern astrologers whichever way they approach the chart, in ost of the times, they fail in arriving at the truth or even near it. By the way, most of the astrologers are not aware,, that Shri BV Raman made extensive use of Nakshatras in his analysis, which one may not find written al over his books, but just subtle references given scarcely for the more catious reader to pick up. Astrology is more of a intuition game, rather than analysis of permutations and combinations, and more of Divine Grace available to the astrologer, and which is why its good that everybody cannot be well versed. Do You think that ayanamsha existed in Parasharas time ? best wishes, bhaskar. , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote: > > Dear BhaskarJi: > > The whole idea behind " ayanamsha " is to bring all the charts to the > same datum point(0 degree Aries) to account for the percussion of the equinoxes > so that predictions can be uniformly applied. > > I have no problem with astrologer's using different ayanamsas to suit their > taste but the problem comes when you apply what they found in their charts to > your case when you are using a different ayanamsa. > > For example, we all accept Dr. B.V. Raman is an expert- but he used a totally > different > > ayanamsa and if we apply whatever conclusions that he has reached based on his > experience to our charts based on " Chitra Paksha " ayanamsa - would it > work all the time? > > It would certainly make a big difference especially when the Asc is on the > 'sandhi " or very close to it. > > We all accept that Parasura is the Father of Astrology. Did he use ayanamsa at > all or all his predictions were based on extra sense revelations with no link > to ayanamsa. To clarify this- as you know in one of the slokas, he says that if > the fifth Lord is in the fifth house and the eleventh Lord in the eleventh > house, the native will be very rich. Now if we apply this dictum to our > previous case, where the Asc is near the sandhi ( I am very sure of the birth > time- to the minute assuming that the hospital watch is accurate) and even if > the fifth Lord is in the fifth house and the eleventh Lord is in the eleventh > house, I cannot say with 100% surety that the native will be rich because I do > not know which ayanamsa Parasura used. Because if I change the ayanamsa in my > chart, ASc changes, and now the fourth Lord is in the fourth house and tenth > Lord in the tenth house giving a different scenario. > > This is an eternal problem and even if the astrologer is well versed (which by > itself is rare) > > he or she cannot be correct all the time. > > Regards, > > anantha krishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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