Fw: Fw: History of Varga Charts !!!

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--- On Tue, 13/10/09, Prashant <praspandey wrote:

Prashant <praspandeyRe: Fw: History of Varga Charts !!!"Vattem Krishnan" <bursar_99Tuesday, 13 October, 2009, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Shri Krishnan ji,

Namastay!

 

Many thanks for your response !

 

I just wanted to make point that Divisional charts and Rashi charts came in existence at same time when astrology was being shaped in very formitive times.

 

Basically Egyptians year was of 360 days and it was divided further in 36 decans of ten days each.And all decans were having 36 spirits as deities.

 

Indians since Vedic times were using 12 parts of a year and those were seasonal.

 

Egyptians 36 decans got shape of Deskkana and Indians 12 sections of a year got shape of Rashi(D-1) chart.Ceratinly 12 Rashis came in existance with Surya Sidhanta and name of Rashis were of constellation which was cretaed by Greeks, Romans and Babylonians but those were basically 13 in count(Ophiuchus was also one constellation which is now missing in Rashi names) and very far away from ecliptic(because in those constellation Sun doesnt go for arond 240 days of one solar year).Certainly ecliptic concept was also not much older and it also came in existence in 2 cent BCE, but yes some hints about it are given in VEDAS from which it has been emerged.But it was not exactly known in VEDIC times.

 

One thing i also want to add that basic thining of predictive gimmicks was basically of egyptian origin but those predictive gimmicks got proper shape with mathematical astronomy with Surya Sidhanta in India and no doubt Surya Sidhanta author was a scholar of 4-5 civilizations.As he took constellations names from Greeks works, Mathematics from Indian works (Theorem of circles means constant motion of planets in one one day and Trigonometry are totally of Indian origin which have been used in Surya Sidhanta)

 

Mess of Ayanamsha came in picture after some years of Surya Sidhanta original works(it was not created exactly by author of Surya Sidhanta) and which were later interpolated in Surya Sidhanta(might be 400-500 yrs later) as in VEDAS there is clear sign of seasonal calendar.

 

12 count is inferior than 36 count so 36 count had to be part of 12 count means 3 parts of Drekkana had to be part of 1 section of D-1.

 

12 Parts around ecliptic had 12 house system with 12 Rashis so those 36 parts had to be readjusted in only 12 parts.

 

Egyptians 36 decans concept is as much older as Indians 12 parts of a year.

 

Varahmihir in his works has enunciated about Drekkana chart in 5 AD. So, in this way D-Charts took birth.

 

D-9 had to be very popular as it deals with Dharma of all thins means fate.

 

So my point is that BPHS is the one of oldest work (ceratinly not 500 years older) with oldest conception of Divisional charts as Varahmihir also talked of Drekkana chart in 5'th Century AD.

 

So the works of B V Raman, K N Rao, Sanjay Rath, PVR, G K Goel, Santhanam etc etc are note worthy which have been dealt with Divisional charts.

 

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

--- On Tue, 13/10/09, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99Re: Fw: History of Varga Charts !!!"Prashant" <praspandeyTuesday, 13 October, 2009, 9:44 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear prashant Ji,

Timely informations as usage of D-Charts in Jyotish assmes lot of significance as jyotish through internet seems to have prsented jyotish as made easy and reference to D charts has become very cursory.

I'm afraid that the concepts given by wise people as well as seers of the importance of divisional they have certainly these historical references ath back of their minds and have thought of intricacies of jyotish and developed into a mature science for universalisation.When Jyotish as given status of vedanga,these consideration to see the birth chart in various perspective goes without saying and every one of need to recapitulate these principles from time to and deploy them in routine for hoilistic comprehension and utility of jyotish in daily life. we know that divisional make wider understanding of each and every activity in his otherwise routine.Ignoring these intricacies and making out delibeartions is no way present us in better perspectives.

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--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Prashant <praspandey wrote:

Prashant <praspandeyFw: History of Varga Charts !!!Monday, October 12, 2009, 1:43 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Varga Charts are one of the oldest creations and those are separate charts and it came in existence at same time when Rashi chart came…..1) Greeks came to India in 3'rd BCE with Egyptians thinking as their interactions were older then Indians...2) Egyptians were using 36 parts around the ecliptic(Not exactly there was ecliptic concept)and all parts had deities and those parts were known as Decante or one may say Drekkanna (This is at least 4000 yrs older astronomical fact of Egyptians).. ..If I am liar plz read that Drekkana also use to have deities….3) Indians were using 12 parts around ecliptic (not exactly around on ecliptic as there was no ecliptic concept in ancient time) as clear from VEDAS verses...4) Greeks and Babylonians created constellation in the name of Rashis in 4'th Century BCE sorry Vice-Versa.. .5) Now with attacks of Alexander on India (In 3'rd Cent BCE), things started flowing to India

or one may say 4-5 civilization got mixed up and and real astrology started caming in existence which we know now days around the world…Mathematics used in Suryasidhanta is of Indian origin but certainly views to get calculated things from 4-5 civilizations…5) When Rashi chart came in existence (means in 1'st BCE) at the same time Drekkana chart came in existence (because Drekkana was ancient Egyptian concept and Rashi was Indian) but Greeks clubbed those and after this ppl got the idea to partitioning thirty degrees in many divisions and those took separate separate charts and they clubbed it with Rashi chart...So D charts are originated at same time when Rashi chart originated.. .It is obvious thing if there are two sets, one is having 12 counts and other 36 then which could be division of what??6) Rashi and D-3 chart are the oldest creation of astrology or one may same came in existence at same time and those were

also separate chart…Clubbing of those separate charts gave thinking of separate separate Divisional charts of other harmonics but clubbing of D-Charts with Rashi chart was also one aspect as 12 counts of ecliptic is the lowest part of ecliptic…So BPHS is the oldest treatise which talks of D-Charts among all astrological books and other are off shoots of it, like Nadi etc etc...So My salutations to B V Raman, K N Rao, Santhanam, PVR, Sanjay Rath, GK Goel who propogated D Charts in India and in whole world…Thanks and Regards,Prashant Pandey

 

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