Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Respected Prashant ji, Superb article for who believe in D-charts linking wit whoch had history on it....--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Guru.nagarajan <guru_naga_astrologer wrote: Guru.nagarajan <guru_naga_astrologer Fw: Re: History of Varga Charts !!! Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:39 PM --- On Tue, 13/10/09, Prashant <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Prashant <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: History of Varga Charts !!!"Manoj Kumar" <mouji99 >Tuesday, 13 October, 2009, 4:16 PM Dear Shri Manoj ji, Thanks for your response ! It was really impossible to break the ice without showing the real proof(though those are against Hindu astrology but facts are facts), that Divisional charts are stand alone creativities and as much older as Rashi charts. I am sending one more link as third person's voice to get more clear cut idea about it.... In below link please try to reach on following heading :- "Appendix: Two Systems of Decan Rulership " and read the second column of lordships which is in accordace with lordship of D-1 charts (means in order like this Mars,Venus,Mercury, Moon, Sun .....) and leads to three different- different charts of D-3 and in accordance of it 3 parts of the body have been divided means if lagna is rising in first Dreskkana then what cycle would be taken of 3 charts and which part would be impacted on body.... http://www.bendykes .com/articles/ decans.htm If you want to read how much older this concept have been ie DECANS, then again please read third persons voice.... In below link please go to "History" heading and read about the Dendera Zodiac's age which was egyptian Zodiac and according to it they used to make calendar... http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dendera_zodiac Hope now everything is clear and one should keep in mind that Divisional charts are separate separate entity and Greeks try to club it with Indian D-1 Rashi concept in India and on the same theme other Divisional charts came in existence... . Nadi scriptures are only specialisation on D-1 with D-9 so those are off-shoots of BPHS which is bible of astrology around the globe now-a days..... I just push this mail as Giant's work were being abused by ONE ABUSER who use to abuse all... Regs, Prashant Pandey --- On Tue, 13/10/09, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >Re: History of Varga Charts !!!"Prashant" <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in>Tuesday, 13 October, 2009, 8:41 PM nice explanation but we have enough in hindu astrology than to be depending on civilizations which depended on hindus for their knowledge. Good effort. Congrats Prashant <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in>S.C. Kursija <sckursija >Tue, October 13, 2009 6:56:20 AMRe: History of Varga Charts !!! Dear Shri Kursijaji, Neither i am Pt nor Respected as i am not an astrologer (Jyotishi), yes i have deep interest in History of astronomy, astronomy and civilizations and political matters. Actually works of B V Raman, K N Rao, Sanjay Rath, PVR, G K Goel, Santhanam were being abused so i was forced to break the silence as truth is something different.I dont say you should get agree with me but at least read the truth.... I am saying again and again that D Charts are of very old creativities and those are separate charts and Greek did exercise of clubbing Rashi chart(Of indian origin) with D Charts(Basically D-3 of Egyptian) in India with Indian Mathematics. Varahmihir person of 5 cent AD has written in his works about D charts, so how D charts could be just 300 years older creativities. .. If i am wrong, plz read on your own, voice of third person about divisional chart :- http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Decans Number 108 is of indian origin and from there D-9 came in existence... .D-9 went to Nadi as D-9 deals with Dharma or one may say Fate of evrything..So in Nadi works there is complete exrcise of concepts with D-9 and D-1 For rest 2 queries which you have written in your mail like :- 1. The names of Rashi are available in Veda which is the accepted oldest literature available. 2. You yourself have accepted that the calculation used in Suryasidhant is origin of India. When you say that Syryasidhant is Indian origin, it means that we know the ecliptic path, rashi, ayanamsha and nakshtra etc.. I have answers with proofs to refute your points, but you are Vedic-Astrologer so i dont think you should come across of it.Hope you will mind if my language is aggressive any where and sorry in advance as i am aggressive writer. Regs, Prashant Pandey PS:- My request is not to abuse D charts even in dreams as those are ancient creativities and i have shown with proofs.--- On Tue, 13/10/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija > wrote: S.C. Kursija <sckursija >Re: History of Varga Charts !!!"Prashant" <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in>Tuesday, 13 October, 2009, 1:13 PM Respected Pt.Prashant ji, I am sorry that I can not agree with you so for the history of astrology is concerned. The names of Rashi are available in Veda which is the accepted oldest literature available. There are certainly some developments and mixing of two cultures and in astrology after the attack of Alexander, You yourself have accepted that the calculation used in Suryasidhant is origin of India. When you say that Syryasidhant is Indian origin, it means that we know the ecliptic path, rashi, ayanamsha and nakshtra etc. Regards--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Prashant <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Prashant <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in>History of Varga Charts !!!Monday, October 12, 2009, 11:00 PM Varga Charts are one of the oldest creations and those are separate charts and it came in existence at same time when Rashi chart came…..1) Greeks came to India in 3'rd BCE with Egyptians thinking as their interactions were older then Indians...2) Egyptians were using 36 parts around the ecliptic(Not exactly there was ecliptic concept)and all parts had deities and those parts were known as Decante or one may say Drekkanna (This is at least 4000 yrs older astronomical fact of Egyptians).. ..If I am liar plz read that Drekkana also use to have deities….3) Indians were using 12 parts around ecliptic (not exactly around on ecliptic as there was no ecliptic concept in ancient time) as clear from VEDAS verses...4) Greeks and Babylonians created constellation in the name of Rashis in 4'th Century BCE sorry Vice-Versa.. .5) Now with attacks of Alexander on India (In 3'rd Cent BCE), things started flowing to India or one may say 4-5 civilization got mixed up and and real astrology started caming in existence which we know now days around the world…Mathematics used in Suryasidhanta is of Indian origin but certainly views to get calculated things from 4-5 civilizations…5) When Rashi chart came in existence (means in 1'st BCE) at the same time Drekkana chart came in existence (because Drekkana was ancient Egyptian concept and Rashi was Indian) but Greeks clubbed those and after this ppl got the idea to partitioning thirty degrees in many divisions and those took separate separate charts and they clubbed it with Rashi chart...So D charts are originated at same time when Rashi chart originated.. .It is obvious thing if there are two sets, one is having 12 counts and other 36 then which could be division of what??6) Rashi and D-3 chart are the oldest creation of astrology or one may same came in existence at same time and those were also separate chart…Clubbing of those separate charts gave thinking of separate separate Divisional charts of other harmonics but clubbing of D-Charts with Rashi chart was also one aspect as 12 counts of ecliptic is the lowest part of ecliptic…So BPHS is the oldest treatise which talks of D-Charts among all astrological books and other are off shoots of it, like Nadi etc etc...So My salutations to B V Raman, K N Rao, Santhanam, PVR, Sanjay Rath, GK Goel who propogated D Charts in India and in whole world…Thanks and Regards,Prashant Pandey Try the new India Homepage. 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Dear Shri Sreenadh ji, There is no system in the entire world which is as rich as Hindu Astrology. I have had interaction with Avestian system of astrologers outside India and found them quite wanting in their knowledge. They can only give predictions like, your Sun energy is weak, strengthen it. Your ascendant is Taurus so you would short and stout and things like this which are pretty mundane when compared with the giant predictive skills of hindu astrology/astrologers. best wishes, Mouji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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