[VRI] Fwd: Fw: History of Varga Charts !!!

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Dear friends,

 

Have you seen this quote;

 

 

//This is evident from the following lines on top of the " Yavana Jataka " by

Yavanacharya, in the the above website, and I quote, " Page 1 Sage Yavana, who

belonged to the Alexander period, wrote Yavana Jataka. He was an astrologer in

the Greek court in India.//

 

What is the meaning of quoting this nonsense. The original write might have made

a genuine mistake but quoting this unproven statement here does not speak of

good intention. Where did the author or the quoter got evidence to show that the

sage Yavana belonged to the Alexander period and which Greek court in India are

they referring to? This type of propaganada to show that the indians learnt

Jyotish shastra from the Greeks is to be highly condemned. Can anybody show the

Greek version of the Yavana Jataka? Kalhana mentions about the Yona Brahmins and

Yavanacharya could very well have been one of the Yona Brahmin teacher from

Kashmir.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, Krishen <jyotirved wrote:

 

Krishen <jyotirved

[VRI] Fwd: Fw: Re: History of Varga Charts !!!

vedic_research_institute

Thursday, October 15, 2009, 2:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, AKKaul@@

 

wrote:

 

 

 

Shri Prashant Pandey ji,

 

 

 

Jai Shri Ram!

 

 

 

<It was really impossible to break the ice without showing the real

 

proof(though those are against Hindu astrology but facts are facts),

 

that Divisional charts are stand alone creativities and as much older as

 

Rashi charts.>

 

 

 

Regarding varga charts, we find their definition first of all in

 

Sphujidwaja' s yavanajatakam. Pl. see chapter 1, shlokas 30 to 58 at

 

 

 

http://www.astrojyo ti.com/yavanajat akamainpage. htm

 

<http://www.astrojyo ti.com/yavanajat akamainpage. htm>

 

 

 

Thus It is not only planetary astronomy in the form of Surya Sidhanta by

 

Maya the mlechha, the first so called indigenous astronomical work to

 

calculate planets vis-a-vis Mesha etc. rashis, that was imported from

 

the Greeks, but even phalita jyotisha!

 

 

 

This is evident from the following lines on top of the " Yavana Jataka "

 

by Yavanacharya, in the the above website, and I quote, " Page 1

 

Sage Yavana, who belonged to the Alexander period, wrote Yavana Jataka.

 

He was an astrologer in the Greek court in India. Because of this he was

 

called Yavanacharya or Greek Guru, and hence a lot of western

 

astrologers claim that Indians learned astrology from the Greeks!! There

 

are a few areas where his interpretations of results are different.

 

Because of this it is an important classic. The teachings of

 

Yavanacharya were recorded by a king called Sphujidhwaja " .

 

 

 

Interestingly, the above site has not been hosted by some " David

 

Pingree " but by

 

 

 

Pandit S.P.Tata

 

H-5/3, 3rd Floor

 

Malviya Nagar

 

New Delhi - 110017.

 

 

 

It is a moot point as to how Yavanacharya was an astrologer of the time

 

of Alexander and simultaneously " pontificated " in a Greek court in

 

India then! We must bear in mind that there were no Mesha etc. rashis

 

in Inida prior to the Surya Sidhanta in India, and that work is of a

 

later era i.e. around first century BCE/AD, whereas Alexander was

 

actually from Macedonia (Balkan Penninusual) , who conquered Greek states

 

and then invaded India in around 326 BCE!

 

 

 

If you go through this Yavanajataka, chapter 2 and other chapters, a

 

bit carefully and then compare the contents with that of Brihat Jatakam

 

by the greatest charlatan of the last two millenia, you will not see

 

much difference, especially in the description of Hora, Dreshkana etc.

 

 

 

If you can get hold of the original Yavana Jtakam in Sanskrit (Vol I and

 

Vol -II), edited by David Pingree and published by Harvard University

 

Press in 1970, you will see it for yourself that the names and

 

definitions of the Rashis in that work in Greek are more or less the

 

same in Brihat Jatakam by Varahamihira, and Varahamihira was around

 

fifth century AD, a " successor " to Yavanacharya!

 

 

 

I think that should put to rest the tug of war whether the divisional

 

charts and Mesha etc. rashis emanated from South India or North India!

 

They actually emanated from the Greeks!

 

 

 

And as is is an open secret by now, we are experts in calling evey

 

technique in predictive gimmicks of Indian origin, only to make a fool

 

of ourselves!

 

 

 

Jai Shri Ram!

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear friends,Have you seen this quote;

//This is evident from the following lines on top of the "Yavana Jataka" by Yavanacharya, in the the above website, and I quote, "Page 1 Sage Yavana, who belonged to the Alexander period, wrote Yavana Jataka. He was an astrologer in the Greek court in India.// What is the meaning of quoting this nonsense. The original write might have made a genuine mistake but quoting this unproven statement here does not speak of good intention. Where did the author or the quoter got evidence to show that the sage Yavana belonged to the Alexander period and which Greek court in India are they referring to? This type of propaganada to show that the indians learnt Jyotish shastra from the Greeks is to be highly condemned. Can anybody show the Greek version of the Yavana Jataka? Kalhana mentions about the Yona Brahmins and Yavanacharya could very well have been one of the Yona Brahmin teacher from Kashmir.Regards,Sunil K.

Bhattacharjya--- On Thu, 10/15/09, Krishen <jyotirved wrote:Krishen <jyotirved[VRI] Fwd: Fw: Re: History of Varga Charts !!!vedic_research_institute Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 2:29 AM

 

 

 

Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, AKKaul@@

wrote:

 

Shri Prashant Pandey ji,

 

Jai Shri Ram!

 

<It was really impossible to break the ice without showing the real

proof(though those are against Hindu astrology but facts are facts),

that Divisional charts are stand alone creativities and as much older as

Rashi charts.>

 

Regarding varga charts, we find their definition first of all in

Sphujidwaja' s yavanajatakam. Pl. see chapter 1, shlokas 30 to 58 at

 

http://www.astrojyo ti.com/yavanajat akamainpage. htm

<http://www.astrojyo ti.com/yavanajat akamainpage. htm>

 

Thus It is not only planetary astronomy in the form of Surya Sidhanta by

Maya the mlechha, the first so called indigenous astronomical work to

calculate planets vis-a-vis Mesha etc. rashis, that was imported from

the Greeks, but even phalita jyotisha!

 

This is evident from the following lines on top of the "Yavana Jataka"

by Yavanacharya, in the the above website, and I quote, "Page 1

Sage Yavana, who belonged to the Alexander period, wrote Yavana Jataka.

He was an astrologer in the Greek court in India. Because of this he was

called Yavanacharya or Greek Guru, and hence a lot of western

astrologers claim that Indians learned astrology from the Greeks!! There

are a few areas where his interpretations of results are different.

Because of this it is an important classic. The teachings of

Yavanacharya were recorded by a king called Sphujidhwaja" .

 

Interestingly, the above site has not been hosted by some "David

Pingree" but by

 

Pandit S.P.Tata

H-5/3, 3rd Floor

Malviya Nagar

New Delhi - 110017.

 

It is a moot point as to how Yavanacharya was an astrologer of the time

of Alexander and simultaneously "pontificated" in a Greek court in

India then! We must bear in mind that there were no Mesha etc. rashis

in Inida prior to the Surya Sidhanta in India, and that work is of a

later era i.e. around first century BCE/AD, whereas Alexander was

actually from Macedonia (Balkan Penninusual) , who conquered Greek states

and then invaded India in around 326 BCE!

 

If you go through this Yavanajataka, chapter 2 and other chapters, a

bit carefully and then compare the contents with that of Brihat Jatakam

by the greatest charlatan of the last two millenia, you will not see

much difference, especially in the description of Hora, Dreshkana etc.

 

If you can get hold of the original Yavana Jtakam in Sanskrit (Vol I and

Vol -II), edited by David Pingree and published by Harvard University

Press in 1970, you will see it for yourself that the names and

definitions of the Rashis in that work in Greek are more or less the

same in Brihat Jatakam by Varahamihira, and Varahamihira was around

fifth century AD, a "successor" to Yavanacharya!

 

I think that should put to rest the tug of war whether the divisional

charts and Mesha etc. rashis emanated from South India or North India!

They actually emanated from the Greeks!

 

And as is is an open secret by now, we are experts in calling evey

technique in predictive gimmicks of Indian origin, only to make a fool

of ourselves!

 

Jai Shri Ram!

 

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