Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear friends, I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. 'Hope the forum would enjoy. Something significant happened to the person on today morning (16/10/2009). Persons name : MYB DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj ( Libra Lagna) The person is my senior colleague, an engr. Question is : What significant event happened ? If any other data is needed, please let me know. regards Chakraborty Bhaskar [bhaskar_jyotish] Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Black Magic Dear Sreenadh ji,Thanks for taking pains to put up a good write-up for the benefit of ourmembers.A point to be noted here, as Shri Dakshina ji mentioned, is that theBlack Magic done is actually Kriyaman Karma done by the Doer, and it wasactually not in the fate of the victim to suffer due to any of hisDridha or Adridha Prarabdha, but he is made to suffer out of line fromhis actual destiny. Yes one point is certain, that Black Magic willtouch a victim only when his stars are not favourbale, and when he ismost vulnerable.regards/Bhaskar.This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Sirs, Was he terminated from work , or asked to join another branch away from your city ? (Will present my analysis only if the answer is near the actual happenning). regards/Bhaskar. , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. > 'Hope the forum would enjoy. > > Something significant happened to the person on today > morning (16/10/2009). > > Persons name : MYB > > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj > ( Libra Lagna) > > The person is my senior colleague, an engr. > > Question is : What significant event happened ? > > > If any other data is needed, please let me know. > > regards > > Chakraborty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Namaskar,Jupiter/saturn period is going on currently to the native. He would have gone abroad. with regardsdhana--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 A blind chart"' '" Friday, October 16, 2009, 5:35 PM Dear friends, I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. 'Hope the forum would enjoy. Something significant happened to the person on today morning (16/10/2009) . Persons name : MYB DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj ( Libra Lagna) The person is my senior colleague, an engr. Question is : What significant event happened ? If any other data is needed, please let me know. regards Chakraborty Bhaskar [bhaskar_ jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 PMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Black Magic Dear Sreenadh ji,Thanks for taking pains to put up a good write-up for the benefit of ourmembers.A point to be noted here, as Shri Dakshina ji mentioned, is that theBlack Magic done is actually Kriyaman Karma done by the Doer, and it wasactually not in the fate of the victim to suffer due to any of hisDridha or Adridha Prarabdha, but he is made to suffer out of line fromhis actual destiny. Yes one point is certain, that Black Magic willtouch a victim only when his stars are not favourbale, and when he ismost vulnerable.regards/Bhaskar.This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Chakraborty ji, Thanks for the blind quiz - it is interesting. With all those usual confusions with BT, Ayanamsa, Year length and Dasa systems I am usually (just like almost all professional astrologers), very weak in pinpointing any event date even though providing a possible window is generally easy. Now coming to an event that happened on a specific day, good understanding of Transit techniques is also required which I lack. Anyway with my minimum tools, I will give it a try. I am using Surya Siddhanta (Chandra Hari) ayanamsa and 360 days savana year for this exercise. The Dasa at the time of event is : Ju-Sa-Sa-Ju-Ke-KeVimsottari Dasa: Jup MD: 2007-04-29 (4:41:08) - 2023-02-04 (4:41:08) Sat AD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2011-12-04 (4:41:08) Sat PD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) Jup SD: 2009-10-08 (8:12:20) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) Ket PAD: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-17 (19:23:42) Ket: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-16 (18:00:46)For the native Lagna is Libra and the dasa lord Jupiter the 6th lord (danger/accident/disease/wound) is placed in 2nd house. Antara lord Saturn is 4th lord (house/vehicle) placed in 3rd (12th from 4th). Paryantara lord Ketu is placed in 6th (danger/accident/disease/wound) itself. Plot set well for something bad like a fall or accident to happen - it seems. If we consider the transit position for the date of event, i.e. 16-10-2009, then - We have numerous planets (Su, Mo, Ve, Me, Sa) placed in Virgo (12th from lagna)! (I am tempted to consider transit from Lagna in this case than from Moon) It is interesting to note that the natal Lagna lord Ve is placed in debilitation in Virgo with the malefic in the transit chart. The result ascribed to Sun, Sa, Me placed in 12th from lagna is "Patita" (Fallen) - so a FALL due to some reason (at home, or from height, or due to accident) and hospitalization after that seems to be very much possible. I also notice that Sun's navamsa is in 6th (accident), and that Saturn's Navamsa is in 10th along with mars (fall from height). When I look at the Transit planetary position a Brihat Jatka sloka comes to my mind. i.e. "Parthonodayage ravou ravi sutau meenasthite daraha" (If Virgo is lagna and Sun is placed there and Saturn in 7th wife will die). I could see that this combination is partially correct in the transit planetary position. For thinking about the native, considering Virgo (sing in which Natal lagna lord Venus is placed), - i.e. treating Virgo as lagna - we have Sun in Virgo. But Saturn is NOT in Pisces (to cause danger to the wife) but instead in Virgo itself (i.e. to cause danger to the native itself). So considering Vigo as lagna for result derivation (since transit Venus the natal lagna lord is placed there), we find that it is Saturn the 6th lord who is causing the danger. Saturn is the 6th lord (accident/wound), afflicting Venus the natal lagna lord and significator of vehicle/barthroom etc in debilitation. I don't know a thing - and so shouldn't try much to narrow down the possibility and should stop here! So my conclusion would be - Most possibly it is a FALL. The reason for fall could be a vehicle accident, fall from height or even a fall in bathroom or some other similar watery place. Note: I wonder, If I could say such things with accuracy, who I would be! Then I would be a mastro astrologer than an astro student! I may be write or wrong, but I loved this exercise and congrats for posting such a quiz. Love and regards,Sreeandh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear friends,> > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis.> 'Hope the forum would enjoy.> > Something significant happened to the person on today> morning (16/10/2009).> > Persons name : MYB> > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj> ( Libra Lagna)> > The person is my senior colleague, an engr.> > Question is : What significant event happened ?> > > If any other data is needed, please let me know.> > regards> > Chakraborty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Chakraborty ji,can you please tell if it is male /female?Love and regards,gopi. , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear friends,> > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis.> 'Hope the forum would enjoy.> > Something significant happened to the person on today> morning (16/10/2009).> > Persons name : MYB> > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj> ( Libra Lagna)> > The person is my senior colleague, an engr.> > Question is : What significant event happened ?> > > If any other data is needed, please let me know.> > regards> > Chakraborty> > ________________________________> Bhaskar [bhaskar_jyotish]> Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 PM> > Re: Black Magic> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > Thanks for taking pains to put up a good write-up for the benefit of our> members.> > A point to be noted here, as Shri Dakshina ji mentioned, is that the> Black Magic done is actually Kriyaman Karma done by the Doer, and it was> actually not in the fate of the victim to suffer due to any of his> Dridha or Adridha Prarabdha, but he is made to suffer out of line from> his actual destiny. Yes one point is certain, that Black Magic will> touch a victim only when his stars are not favourbale, and when he is> most vulnerable.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Chakrabortyji, There are three possibilities, 1.He got the news that his child have got the success in a competition which is eagerly awaited. 2.He purchase something and got prize of any electronics item free. 3.He got the message for which he was waiting anxiously. Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Chakraborty ji, > Thanks for the blind quiz - it is interesting. With all those usual > confusions with BT, Ayanamsa, Year length and Dasa systems I am usually > (just like almost all professional astrologers), very weak in > pinpointing any event date even though providing a possible window is > generally easy. Now coming to an event that happened on a specific day, > good understanding of Transit techniques is also required which I lack. > Anyway with my minimum tools, I will give it a try. [] > I am using Surya Siddhanta (Chandra Hari) ayanamsa and 360 days savana > year for this exercise. The Dasa at the time of event is : > Ju-Sa-Sa-Ju-Ke-Ke > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > Jup MD: 2007-04-29 (4:41:08) - 2023-02-04 (4:41:08) > Sat AD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2011-12-04 (4:41:08) > Sat PD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) > Jup SD: 2009-10-08 (8:12:20) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) > Ket PAD: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-17 (19:23:42) > Ket: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-16 (18:00:46) > > For the native Lagna is Libra and the dasa lord Jupiter the 6th lord > (danger/accident/disease/wound) is placed in 2nd house. Antara lord > Saturn is 4th lord (house/vehicle) placed in 3rd (12th from 4th). > Paryantara lord Ketu is placed in 6th (danger/accident/disease/wound) > itself. Plot set well for something bad like a fall or accident to > happen - it seems. > If we consider the transit position for the date of event, i.e. > 16-10-2009, then - > We have numerous planets (Su, Mo, Ve, Me, Sa) placed in Virgo (12th > from lagna)! (I am tempted to consider transit from Lagna in this case > than from Moon) It is interesting to note that the natal Lagna lord Ve > is placed in debilitation in Virgo with the malefic in the transit > chart. The result ascribed to Sun, Sa, Me placed in 12th from lagna is > " Patita " (Fallen) - so a FALL due to some reason (at home, or from > height, or due to accident) and hospitalization after that seems to be > very much possible. I also notice that Sun's navamsa is in 6th > (accident), and that Saturn's Navamsa is in 10th along with mars (fall > from height). > When I look at the Transit planetary position a Brihat Jatka sloka > comes to my mind. i.e. " Parthonodayage ravou ravi sutau meenasthite > daraha " (If Virgo is lagna and Sun is placed there and Saturn in 7th > wife will die). I could see that this combination is partially correct > in the transit planetary position. For thinking about the native, > considering Virgo (sing in which Natal lagna lord Venus is placed), - > i.e. treating Virgo as lagna - we have Sun in Virgo. But Saturn is NOT > in Pisces (to cause danger to the wife) but instead in Virgo itself > (i.e. to cause danger to the native itself). So considering Vigo as > lagna for result derivation (since transit Venus the natal lagna lord is > placed there), we find that it is Saturn the 6th lord who is causing the > danger. Saturn is the 6th lord (accident/wound), afflicting Venus the > natal lagna lord and significator of vehicle/barthroom etc in > debilitation. > I don't know a thing - and so shouldn't try much to narrow down the > possibility and should stop here! So my conclusion would be - Most > possibly it is a FALL. The reason for fall could be a vehicle accident, > fall from height or even a fall in bathroom or some other similar watery > place. > Note: I wonder, If I could say such things with accuracy, who I would > be! Then I would be a mastro astrologer than an astro student! [] I > may be write or wrong, but I loved this exercise and congrats for > posting such a quiz. [] > Love and regards, > Sreeandh > > , " Chakraborty, PL " > <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. > > 'Hope the forum would enjoy. > > > > Something significant happened to the person on today > > morning (16/10/2009). > > > > Persons name : MYB > > > > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj > > ( Libra Lagna) > > > > The person is my senior colleague, an engr. > > > > Question is : What significant event happened ? > > > > > > If any other data is needed, please let me know. > > > > regards > > > > Chakraborty > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Bohra ji, I appreciate this line of thinking. The 5th house is activated . So is the 3rd. You are using both of these possibilities with some logic. It may also mean that his child has left for studies somewhere away from the family. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Sudan " <msbohra62 wrote: > > Dear Chakrabortyji, > > There are three possibilities, > > 1.He got the news that his child have got the success in a competition which is eagerly awaited. > 2.He purchase something and got prize of any electronics item free. > 3.He got the message for which he was waiting anxiously. > > Thanks & regards, > > M.S.Bohra > , " sreesog " sreesog@ wrote: > > > > Dear Chakraborty ji, > > Thanks for the blind quiz - it is interesting. With all those usual > > confusions with BT, Ayanamsa, Year length and Dasa systems I am usually > > (just like almost all professional astrologers), very weak in > > pinpointing any event date even though providing a possible window is > > generally easy. Now coming to an event that happened on a specific day, > > good understanding of Transit techniques is also required which I lack. > > Anyway with my minimum tools, I will give it a try. [] > > I am using Surya Siddhanta (Chandra Hari) ayanamsa and 360 days savana > > year for this exercise. The Dasa at the time of event is : > > Ju-Sa-Sa-Ju-Ke-Ke > > > > Vimsottari Dasa: > > > > Jup MD: 2007-04-29 (4:41:08) - 2023-02-04 (4:41:08) > > Sat AD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2011-12-04 (4:41:08) > > Sat PD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) > > Jup SD: 2009-10-08 (8:12:20) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) > > Ket PAD: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-17 (19:23:42) > > Ket: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-16 (18:00:46) > > > > For the native Lagna is Libra and the dasa lord Jupiter the 6th lord > > (danger/accident/disease/wound) is placed in 2nd house. Antara lord > > Saturn is 4th lord (house/vehicle) placed in 3rd (12th from 4th). > > Paryantara lord Ketu is placed in 6th (danger/accident/disease/wound) > > itself. Plot set well for something bad like a fall or accident to > > happen - it seems. > > If we consider the transit position for the date of event, i.e. > > 16-10-2009, then - > > We have numerous planets (Su, Mo, Ve, Me, Sa) placed in Virgo (12th > > from lagna)! (I am tempted to consider transit from Lagna in this case > > than from Moon) It is interesting to note that the natal Lagna lord Ve > > is placed in debilitation in Virgo with the malefic in the transit > > chart. The result ascribed to Sun, Sa, Me placed in 12th from lagna is > > " Patita " (Fallen) - so a FALL due to some reason (at home, or from > > height, or due to accident) and hospitalization after that seems to be > > very much possible. I also notice that Sun's navamsa is in 6th > > (accident), and that Saturn's Navamsa is in 10th along with mars (fall > > from height). > > When I look at the Transit planetary position a Brihat Jatka sloka > > comes to my mind. i.e. " Parthonodayage ravou ravi sutau meenasthite > > daraha " (If Virgo is lagna and Sun is placed there and Saturn in 7th > > wife will die). I could see that this combination is partially correct > > in the transit planetary position. For thinking about the native, > > considering Virgo (sing in which Natal lagna lord Venus is placed), - > > i.e. treating Virgo as lagna - we have Sun in Virgo. But Saturn is NOT > > in Pisces (to cause danger to the wife) but instead in Virgo itself > > (i.e. to cause danger to the native itself). So considering Vigo as > > lagna for result derivation (since transit Venus the natal lagna lord is > > placed there), we find that it is Saturn the 6th lord who is causing the > > danger. Saturn is the 6th lord (accident/wound), afflicting Venus the > > natal lagna lord and significator of vehicle/barthroom etc in > > debilitation. > > I don't know a thing - and so shouldn't try much to narrow down the > > possibility and should stop here! So my conclusion would be - Most > > possibly it is a FALL. The reason for fall could be a vehicle accident, > > fall from height or even a fall in bathroom or some other similar watery > > place. > > Note: I wonder, If I could say such things with accuracy, who I would > > be! Then I would be a mastro astrologer than an astro student! [] I > > may be write or wrong, but I loved this exercise and congrats for > > posting such a quiz. [] > > Love and regards, > > Sreeandh > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " > > <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. > > > 'Hope the forum would enjoy. > > > > > > Something significant happened to the person on today > > > morning (16/10/2009). > > > > > > Persons name : MYB > > > > > > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj > > > ( Libra Lagna) > > > > > > The person is my senior colleague, an engr. > > > > > > Question is : What significant event happened ? > > > > > > > > > If any other data is needed, please let me know. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Chakraborty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The native is running Vimshottari Jup/Sat/Merc. Saturn is the Upapada lagna lord in Rasi and is placed in the Vyayapada A12 lagna in the Navamsa with Jupiter® and Mars. Jupiter is placed in the 2nd house of family kutumbasthana and Mercury is placed in the 7th from Jupiter (in the 8th house). Saturn is placed in the 2nd from dasa lord Jupiter. Though I could go on on these lines. The simple fact is that after a long delay, the Native got married on that day. Shrikanth , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. > 'Hope the forum would enjoy. > > Something significant happened to the person on today > morning (16/10/2009). > > Persons name : MYB > > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj > ( Libra Lagna) > > The person is my senior colleague, an engr. > > Question is : What significant event happened ? > > > If any other data is needed, please let me know. > > regards > > Chakraborty > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar [bhaskar_jyotish] > Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 PM > > Re: Black Magic > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > Thanks for taking pains to put up a good write-up for the benefit of our > members. > > A point to be noted here, as Shri Dakshina ji mentioned, is that the > Black Magic done is actually Kriyaman Karma done by the Doer, and it was > actually not in the fate of the victim to suffer due to any of his > Dridha or Adridha Prarabdha, but he is made to suffer out of line from > his actual destiny. Yes one point is certain, that Black Magic will > touch a victim only when his stars are not favourbale, and when he is > most vulnerable. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Chakraborty Ji, This chart seems unguarded to the disorders of respiratory systems / liver. Profits in business (if any) is unlikely. 16th Oct - Indications of good news related to Job like promotion / incentive. Warm Regards, Deepak Sharma , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. > 'Hope the forum would enjoy. > > Something significant happened to the person on today > morning (16/10/2009). > > Persons name : MYB > > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj > ( Libra Lagna) > > The person is my senior colleague, an engr. > > Question is : What significant event happened ? > > > If any other data is needed, please let me know. > > regards > > Chakraborty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Chakraborty Ji, MYB Ji is running Jupiter(3L/6L)/Saturn(4L/5L)/Mercury(9L/12L). Jupiter is also the Nakshatra Lord of the cusps of 1st house, 5th house and 9th house. The 5th house cusp falls in the Navamsha of Mithuna, which is the 9th house of the Rashi Chart whose Lord is Mercury. Saturn is the dispositor of the 5H of Rashi chart. Hence Jupiter/Saturn/Mercury seems indicative of strong possibility of 5th house events. When Rashi dispositor and Navamsha dispostiors become involved,events can fructify. Here not only Saturn/Mercury are Antar/Pratyantar, they are also conjunct via transit. Powered by the Dasha Lord Jupiter they are empowered to bring about 5H events. In the Saptamsha, Saturn (5L of Rashi) is in his own sign, Jupiter is the Lord of the 9th house placed in the 2H and Mercury is placed in the 8H indicating "change". Natuure of 8H change can be positive or negative. However since Mercury's dispositor Mars is exalted in Saptamsha and when project back to the Rashi chart Mercury falls in the 2nd house, positive "change" is indicated. So after considering the above (and more not mentioned to keep this brief) it is a positive event related to children/creativity/progeny (including grand children). Regards, -Manoj "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 Fri, October 16, 2009 5:05:20 AM A blind chart Dear friends, I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. 'Hope the forum would enjoy. Something significant happened to the person on today morning (16/10/2009) . Persons name : MYB DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj ( Libra Lagna) The person is my senior colleague, an engr. Question is : What significant event happened ? If any other data is needed, please let me know. regards Chakraborty Bhaskar [bhaskar_ jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 PMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Black Magic Dear Sreenadh ji,Thanks for taking pains to put up a good write-up for the benefit of ourmembers.A point to be noted here, as Shri Dakshina ji mentioned, is that theBlack Magic done is actually Kriyaman Karma done by the Doer, and it wasactually not in the fate of the victim to suffer due to any of hisDridha or Adridha Prarabdha, but he is made to suffer out of line fromhis actual destiny. Yes one point is certain, that Black Magic willtouch a victim only when his stars are not favourbale, and when he ismost vulnerable.regards/Bhaskar.This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Pranams,Mr.Chakraborty ji,Your Sr.Colleague is born in Libra Lagna.He experiences 10th lord Moon AD in 3rd and 6th lord Guru MD.AD Lord in the 2nd house to MD Lord.MD Lord aspected by SUN.Gochar Guru ,Sani in the 2nd and 10th house from Dhanur Moon.Your Sr.colleague would have won a victory succeed some one and attained vertical elevation in his udhyog.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Fri, 16/10/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 A blind chart"' '" Friday, 16 October, 2009, 5:35 PM Dear friends, I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis. 'Hope the forum would enjoy. Something significant happened to the person on today morning (16/10/2009) . Persons name : MYB DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj ( Libra Lagna) The person is my senior colleague, an engr. Question is : What significant event happened ? If any other data is needed, please let me know. regards Chakraborty Bhaskar [bhaskar_ jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 PMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Black Magic Dear Sreenadh ji,Thanks for taking pains to put up a good write-up for the benefit of ourmembers.A point to be noted here, as Shri Dakshina ji mentioned, is that theBlack Magic done is actually Kriyaman Karma done by the Doer, and it wasactually not in the fate of the victim to suffer due to any of hisDridha or Adridha Prarabdha, but he is made to suffer out of line fromhis actual destiny. Yes one point is certain, that Black Magic willtouch a victim only when his stars are not favourbale, and when he ismost vulnerable.regards/Bhaskar.This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. New Email addresses available on Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Its really a totally blind chart reading,there is no any feedback and any indications for confirmation. Its depends on our speculation that what will be possibly happens because so many things can be related to these houses which are seems to be activated. I have one more thought that might be he received the court order or any documents related to old properties. I am running my Ketu Mahadasha,Ketu in 11th in the star of Mars l/o 2,9 in 10 in closed orbit of Saturn l/o 11,12 in 10.So my 2,9,10and 11 are strongly activated which is good for Astrology.I hope i am near to fact on this blind chart. Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > I appreciate this line of thinking. The 5th house is activated . So is > the 3rd. You are using both of these possibilities with some logic. It > may also mean that his child has left for studies somewhere away from > the family. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Bohra Ji, Can i have privilage to ask something, In orrissa, Bohra is a well known community, do you belong to same state as ours. Regards, Utkal. , " Sudan " <msbohra62 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Its really a totally blind chart reading,there is no any feedback and any indications for confirmation. > > Its depends on our speculation that what will be possibly happens because so many things can be related to these houses which are seems to be activated. > > I have one more thought that might be he received the court order or any documents related to old properties. > > I am running my Ketu Mahadasha,Ketu in 11th in the star of Mars l/o 2,9 in 10 in closed orbit of Saturn l/o 11,12 in 10.So my 2,9,10and 11 are strongly activated which is good for Astrology.I hope i am near to fact on this blind chart. > > Thanks & regards, > > M.S.Bohra > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > I appreciate this line of thinking. The 5th house is activated . So is > > the 3rd. You are using both of these possibilities with some logic. It > > may also mean that his child has left for studies somewhere away from > > the family. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Utkalji, I am Pushkarna Brahman,Bhradwaj Gotra from Jodhpur(Rajasthan).Puskarna Brahman are populated in Jodhpur,Bikaner,Jaisalmer,Phalodi,Pokaran(The famous field for experiments of Atomic bomb devices). Our ancestor was Shri Jain Kapata,he came at Jaisalmer where Jaisalmer King have given him the " Upadhi " of " Bohra " after that they used Bohra as surname.Bohra are very famous in Punjabi also some Bohra surname i have seen in Muslims also. Basically Bohra were ,who were doing the business of 'money' on interest in old time.Our ancestor have financed to many Kings including Jaisalmer King,as i came to know from family history. We have no any relation with these Bohra who lives in orrissa as i know.Might be some were went there as Marwari are every where. It is little back ground of me as Bohra. Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > Dear Bohra Ji, > > Can i have privilage to ask something, In orrissa, Bohra is a well known community, do you belong to same state as ours. > > Regards, > Utkal. > > , " Sudan " <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Its really a totally blind chart reading,there is no any feedback and any indications for confirmation. > > > > Its depends on our speculation that what will be possibly happens because so many things can be related to these houses which are seems to be activated. > > > > I have one more thought that might be he received the court order or any documents related to old properties. > > > > I am running my Ketu Mahadasha,Ketu in 11th in the star of Mars l/o 2,9 in 10 in closed orbit of Saturn l/o 11,12 in 10.So my 2,9,10and 11 are strongly activated which is good for Astrology.I hope i am near to fact on this blind chart. > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > > > I appreciate this line of thinking. The 5th house is activated . So is > > > the 3rd. You are using both of these possibilities with some logic. It > > > may also mean that his child has left for studies somewhere away from > > > the family. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Bhai Bohra ji, Ancestors ki pari paaati ko chalate rahiye na.. Hame bhi 2 Karod tak finance kar deejiye. Baaki schemes hain mere paas, aap fikra na karen ki us paise ka kya hoga. Main bhi Marwadi hoon, Bikaner ka, woh bhi Chaudhary. Haamare yahan praan jaayen par vachan na jaaye. isliye betakaloof paise lekar mere paas aayen. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Dear Bikaneri Bhayala, " mai bhi dhundu hu ki mara puavaj va chabi kate rakh chhodi hai " (I am also in search that my ancestor where have kept that key).Ab the to Chaudhari ho,janu hu ki Chaudhari bada syana(chatur) hove hai to the hi koi rasto sujao(I know Chaudhari are very sharp,as a Chaudhari you can help me to search). We have some families who keeps the records of families as " Vanshawali " as like in " Punda " have in Haridwar and Gaya.These are authentic and can be use in judiciary purpose. Anyway I have this privilege that my Bohra surname have this glorious background as like India was once a " Golden's Bird " . Today is " Rama-Shayama " so to every one " Diwali ki Ram-Ram " . Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhai Bohra ji, > > Ancestors ki pari paaati ko chalate rahiye na.. > > Hame bhi 2 Karod tak finance kar deejiye. Baaki schemes hain mere paas, > aap fikra na karen ki us paise ka kya hoga. Main bhi Marwadi hoon, > Bikaner ka, woh bhi Chaudhary. > > Haamare yahan praan jaayen par vachan na jaaye. > > isliye betakaloof paise lekar mere paas aayen. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Bohra ji, Diwali ka Ram Ram bhaiyya. You made me smile. Toh thaune tijori ri chaabi milk koni paa rahi ? (So you cannot find the key to your Cash box?) Aero matlab the mane paisha deno koni chavo. (This means you do not wish to pay me). Koi baat koni. Thone mhaare andar chaturai deese (dosent matter. You notice sharpness in me) The mane chatur kahyo. Hoon bhi chaturayi dikhadesoon aur thonsu paisha re potli lekar hi dam lesun. (You called me clever. I will show my clevrness and certainly take a bag of money from you before I breath freely) Good to know that you have " Vanshawallis " . I too came to know about my 5th generation before me through these pandas only during the Chardham Yatra. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Sudan " <msbohra62 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Dear Bikaneri Bhayala, " mai bhi dhundu hu ki mara puavaj va chabi kate rakh chhodi hai " (I am also in search that my ancestor where have kept that key).Ab the to Chaudhari ho,janu hu ki Chaudhari bada syana(chatur) hove hai to the hi koi rasto sujao(I know Chaudhari are very sharp,as a Chaudhari you can help me to search). > > We have some families who keeps the records of families as " Vanshawali " as like in " Punda " have in Haridwar and Gaya.These are authentic and can be use in judiciary purpose. > > Anyway I have this privilege that my Bohra surname have this glorious background as like India was once a " Golden's Bird " . > > Today is " Rama-Shayama " so to every one " Diwali ki Ram-Ram " . > > Thanks & regards, > > M.S.Bohra > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > Bhai Bohra ji, > > > > Ancestors ki pari paaati ko chalate rahiye na.. > > > > Hame bhi 2 Karod tak finance kar deejiye. Baaki schemes hain mere paas, > > aap fikra na karen ki us paise ka kya hoga. Main bhi Marwadi hoon, > > Bikaner ka, woh bhi Chaudhary. > > > > Haamare yahan praan jaayen par vachan na jaaye. > > > > isliye betakaloof paise lekar mere paas aayen. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, Bohra ji,Beyond this I will pack you two off back stage!!:-)Otherwise not only Renu ji and others will should not fair, even astrology will say that!!RegardsNeelam 2009/10/18 Sudan <msbohra62 Dear Bhaskarji, Ab chaudhari to chaudhari hi hove vane chaudhari yuhi todi keve(Aftaer all Chaudhri is Chaudhari,why people are calling him Chaudhari ). Chaudhari means who always do final decisions in Panchayat(Shabha).It is not possible without any sharpness or cleverness. Bhayala,mai to bholo bhraman ho mane to the baksho,jab chabi mil jawagi to the to mara bhai ho thasu gureg kesi.(I am inocent Brahman please excuse me for the moment,when i will get the key than you are first because you are my brother). I have our Vanshawali from " Sanwat " 1515 with me,it is my father's efforts to collect it from our native place. My wife have organized " Ankut " (36 Bhoga to shree Krishana) today at home so now i have to join her. Nice day ! Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > Diwali ka Ram Ram bhaiyya. > > You made me smile. Toh thaune tijori ri chaabi milk koni paa rahi ? (So > you cannot find the key to your Cash box?) Aero matlab the mane paisha > deno koni chavo. (This means you do not wish to pay me). Koi baat koni. > Thone mhaare andar chaturai deese (dosent matter. You notice sharpness > in me) The mane chatur kahyo. Hoon bhi chaturayi dikhadesoon aur thonsu > paisha re potli lekar hi dam lesun. (You called me clever. I will show > my clevrness and certainly take a bag of money from you before I breath > freely) > > Good to know that you have " Vanshawallis " . I too came to know about my > 5th generation before me through these pandas only during the Chardham > Yatra. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Sudan " <msbohra62@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Dear Bikaneri Bhayala, " mai bhi dhundu hu ki mara puavaj va chabi kate > rakh chhodi hai " (I am also in search that my ancestor where have kept > that key).Ab the to Chaudhari ho,janu hu ki Chaudhari bada syana(chatur) > hove hai to the hi koi rasto sujao(I know Chaudhari are very sharp,as a > Chaudhari you can help me to search). > > > > We have some families who keeps the records of families as > " Vanshawali " as like in " Punda " have in Haridwar and Gaya.These are > authentic and can be use in judiciary purpose. > > > > Anyway I have this privilege that my Bohra surname have this glorious > background as like India was once a " Golden's Bird " . > > > > Today is " Rama-Shayama " so to every one " Diwali ki Ram-Ram " . > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhai Bohra ji, > > > > > > Ancestors ki pari paaati ko chalate rahiye na.. > > > > > > Hame bhi 2 Karod tak finance kar deejiye. Baaki schemes hain mere > paas, > > > aap fikra na karen ki us paise ka kya hoga. Main bhi Marwadi hoon, > > > Bikaner ka, woh bhi Chaudhary. > > > > > > Haamare yahan praan jaayen par vachan na jaaye. > > > > > > isliye betakaloof paise lekar mere paas aayen. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Chakraborty Ji, What is PSU? Sorry I have forgotten many Indian acronyms. Regards, -Manoj "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 Sun, October 18, 2009 7:56:47 PMRE: Re: A blind chart Dear Bhaskar-ji, No. Not related to Job. It is very difficult to terminate someone from a PSU. Although the persons is trying to switch jobs for last many years..without result. regards Chakraborty Bhaskar [bhaskar_ jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in] Friday, October 16, 2009 6:05 PMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: A blind chart Dear Sirs,Was he terminated from work , or asked to join another branch away fromyour city ? (Will present my analysis only if the answer is near theactual happenning).regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL"<CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:>> Dear friends,>> I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis.> 'Hope the forum would enjoy.>> Something significant happened to the person on today> morning (16/10/2009) .>> Persons name : MYB>> DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj> ( Libra Lagna)>> The person is my senior colleague, an engr.>> Question is : What significant event happened ?>>> If any other data is needed, please let me know.>> regards>> ChakrabortyThis Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Forum, Please let me know that whether should I wait for some more analysis ... or I should post the actual event. regards Chakraborty sreesog [sreesog] Friday, October 16, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: Re: A blind chart Dear Chakraborty ji, Thanks for the blind quiz - it is interesting. With all those usual confusions with BT, Ayanamsa, Year length and Dasa systems I am usually (just like almost all professional astrologers), very weak in pinpointing any event date even though providing a possible window is generally easy. Now coming to an event that happened on a specific day, good understanding of Transit techniques is also required which I lack. Anyway with my minimum tools, I will give it a try. I am using Surya Siddhanta (Chandra Hari) ayanamsa and 360 days savana year for this exercise. The Dasa at the time of event is : Ju-Sa-Sa-Ju-Ke-KeVimsottari Dasa: Jup MD: 2007-04-29 (4:41:08) - 2023-02-04 (4:41:08) Sat AD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2011-12-04 (4:41:08) Sat PD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) Jup SD: 2009-10-08 (8:12:20) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) Ket PAD: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-17 (19:23:42) Ket: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-16 (18:00:46)For the native Lagna is Libra and the dasa lord Jupiter the 6th lord (danger/accident/disease/wound) is placed in 2nd house. Antara lord Saturn is 4th lord (house/vehicle) placed in 3rd (12th from 4th). Paryantara lord Ketu is placed in 6th (danger/accident/disease/wound) itself. Plot set well for something bad like a fall or accident to happen - it seems. If we consider the transit position for the date of event, i.e. 16-10-2009, then - We have numerous planets (Su, Mo, Ve, Me, Sa) placed in Virgo (12th from lagna)! (I am tempted to consider transit from Lagna in this case than from Moon) It is interesting to note that the natal Lagna lord Ve is placed in debilitation in Virgo with the malefic in the transit chart. The result ascribed to Sun, Sa, Me placed in 12th from lagna is "Patita" (Fallen) - so a FALL due to some reason (at home, or from height, or due to accident) and hospitalization after that seems to be very much possible. I also notice that Sun's navamsa is in 6th (accident), and that Saturn's Navamsa is in 10th along with mars (fall from height). When I look at the Transit planetary position a Brihat Jatka sloka comes to my mind. i.e. "Parthonodayage ravou ravi sutau meenasthite daraha" (If Virgo is lagna and Sun is placed there and Saturn in 7th wife will die). I could see that this combination is partially correct in the transit planetary position. For thinking about the native, considering Virgo (sing in which Natal lagna lord Venus is placed), - i.e. treating Virgo as lagna - we have Sun in Virgo. But Saturn is NOT in Pisces (to cause danger to the wife) but instead in Virgo itself (i.e. to cause danger to the native itself). So considering Vigo as lagna for result derivation (since transit Venus the natal lagna lord is placed there), we find that it is Saturn the 6th lord who is causing the danger. Saturn is the 6th lord (accident/wound), afflicting Venus the natal lagna lord and significator of vehicle/barthroom etc in debilitation. I don't know a thing - and so shouldn't try much to narrow down the possibility and should stop here! So my conclusion would be - Most possibly it is a FALL. The reason for fall could be a vehicle accident, fall from height or even a fall in bathroom or some other similar watery place. Note: I wonder, If I could say such things with accuracy, who I would be! Then I would be a mastro astrologer than an astro student! I may be write or wrong, but I loved this exercise and congrats for posting such a quiz. Love and regards,Sreeandh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear friends,> > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis.> 'Hope the forum would enjoy.> > Something significant happened to the person on today> morning (16/10/2009).> > Persons name : MYB> > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj> ( Libra Lagna)> > The person is my senior colleague, an engr.> > Question is : What significant event happened ?> > > If any other data is needed, please let me know.> > regards> > ChakrabortyThis Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Chakrabothy ji, I think ,the exercise is not over so hold on regds Suniljay sreesog <sreesog Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2009 8:41:47 Re: A blind chart Dear Chakraborty ji, Please proceed with posting the actual result. But don't depend on my suggestion alone - wait for others also to see their opinion on this - whether to post the actual result now or not- or to wait for a day or so. Even my wife was asking what happened to the 'What happened on that day?' exercise posted by Chakraborty ji? Ha..Ha.. Everybody must be impatient - awaiting the result. But you made such a beautiful and interesting exercise - thanks for the same. Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Forum,> > Please let me know that whether should I wait for some more> analysis ... or I should post the actual event.> > regards> > Chakraborty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Chakraborty ji,No need to say sorry,it happens.Sometimes mistaken identity gives a hearty lough which is healthy specially during hot discussions.Is it not so?Love and regards,gopi. , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Gopi-ji,> > Sorry for the oversight on my part. I know that Gopu-ji & > Gopi-ji are different members of this forum.> > regards> > Chakraborty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Chakraborty, Vimsottari dasa on 16th oct 09 is Vimsottari Dasa: Jup MD: 2006-12-03 - 2022-12-03 Sat AD: 2009-01-20 - 2011-08-03 Merc PD: 2009-06-16 - 2009-10-25 Rah SD: 2009-08-28 - 2009-09-16 Serious health problems to parents especially father. It could be death. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Neelam-ji & other members, > > I would post the result by 20th Morning. > > regards > > Chakraborty > > ________________________________ > neelam gupta [neelamgupta07] > Monday, October 19, 2009 10:04 AM > > Re: Re: A blind chart > > > > Kindly wait for a day Chakraborty ji if you do not mind. > > Thanks and Regards > Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Members, GU/SA/KE may have given injury to the knees of the native who had a fall due to slipping over a watery place. D. D. Trivedi--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2RE: Re: A blind chart"' '" Monday, 19 October, 2009, 10:38 AM Dear Neelam-ji & other members, I would post the result by 20th Morning. regards Chakraborty neelam gupta [neelamgupta 07 (AT) gmail (DOT) com] Monday, October 19, 2009 10:04 AMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: A blind chart Kindly wait for a day Chakraborty ji if you do not mind.Thanks and RegardsNeelam 2009/10/19 Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> Dear Forum, Please let me know that whether should I wait for some more analysis ... or I should post the actual event. regards Chakraborty sreesog [sreesog ] Friday, October 16, 2009 6:29 PM ancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: A blind chart Dear Chakraborty ji, Thanks for the blind quiz - it is interesting. With all those usual confusions with BT, Ayanamsa, Year length and Dasa systems I am usually (just like almost all professional astrologers) , very weak in pinpointing any event date even though providing a possible window is generally easy. Now coming to an event that happened on a specific day, good understanding of Transit techniques is also required which I lack. Anyway with my minimum tools, I will give it a try. I am using Surya Siddhanta (Chandra Hari) ayanamsa and 360 days savana year for this exercise. The Dasa at the time of event is : Ju-Sa-Sa-Ju- Ke-KeVimsottari Dasa: Jup MD: 2007-04-29 (4:41:08) - 2023-02-04 (4:41:08) Sat AD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2011-12-04 (4:41:08) Sat PD: 2009-06-05 (4:41:08) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) Jup SD: 2009-10-08 (8:12:20) - 2009-10-27 (14:17:08) Ket PAD: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-17 (19:23:42) Ket: 2009-10-16 (16:26:25) - 2009-10-16 (18:00:46)For the native Lagna is Libra and the dasa lord Jupiter the 6th lord (danger/accident/ disease/wound) is placed in 2nd house. Antara lord Saturn is 4th lord (house/vehicle) placed in 3rd (12th from 4th). Paryantara lord Ketu is placed in 6th (danger/accident/ disease/wound) itself. Plot set well for something bad like a fall or accident to happen - it seems. If we consider the transit position for the date of event, i.e. 16-10-2009, then - We have numerous planets (Su, Mo, Ve, Me, Sa) placed in Virgo (12th from lagna)! (I am tempted to consider transit from Lagna in this case than from Moon) It is interesting to note that the natal Lagna lord Ve is placed in debilitation in Virgo with the malefic in the transit chart. The result ascribed to Sun, Sa, Me placed in 12th from lagna is "Patita" (Fallen) - so a FALL due to some reason (at home, or from height, or due to accident) and hospitalization after that seems to be very much possible. I also notice that Sun's navamsa is in 6th (accident), and that Saturn's Navamsa is in 10th along with mars (fall from height). When I look at the Transit planetary position a Brihat Jatka sloka comes to my mind. i.e. "Parthonodayage ravou ravi sutau meenasthite daraha" (If Virgo is lagna and Sun is placed there and Saturn in 7th wife will die). I could see that this combination is partially correct in the transit planetary position. For thinking about the native, considering Virgo (sing in which Natal lagna lord Venus is placed), - i.e. treating Virgo as lagna - we have Sun in Virgo. But Saturn is NOT in Pisces (to cause danger to the wife) but instead in Virgo itself (i.e. to cause danger to the native itself). So considering Vigo as lagna for result derivation (since transit Venus the natal lagna lord is placed there), we find that it is Saturn the 6th lord who is causing the danger. Saturn is the 6th lord (accident/wound) , afflicting Venus the natal lagna lord and significator of vehicle/barthroom etc in debilitation. I don't know a thing - and so shouldn't try much to narrow down the possibility and should stop here! So my conclusion would be - Most possibly it is a FALL. The reason for fall could be a vehicle accident, fall from height or even a fall in bathroom or some other similar watery place. Note: I wonder, If I could say such things with accuracy, who I would be! Then I would be a mastro astrologer than an astro student! I may be write or wrong, but I loved this exercise and congrats for posting such a quiz. Love and regards,Sreeandh ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:>> Dear friends,> > I am posting a blind chart for post mortem analysis.> 'Hope the forum would enjoy.> > Something significant happened to the person on today> morning (16/10/2009) .> > Persons name : MYB> > DOB : 25 May 1959, TOB : 18:23 hrs, Bhuj> ( Libra Lagna)> > The person is my senior colleague, an engr.> > Question is : What significant event happened ?> > > If any other data is needed, please let me know.> > regards> > Chakraborty This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear SunilJay Ji, //Jupiter will confer recognition and increase in income// Could you please explain why? Why should Jupiter confer recognition and increase in income? Jupiter is the 3rd Lord and 6th Lord in the 2nd house (asper Rashi Chart). He in trines to two malefics Ketu and Mars (debilitated). So please convince me why Jupiter should confer recognition AND increase in income? I am also a learner only so this is just to urge discussion. I hope every one giving their answers would kindly give details as well. The whole point of this exercise is NOT whether we are right or wrong, but HOW we approach the problem and how we look at things. Regards, -Manoj sunilsantha jayasundera <suniljay123 Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 12:24:21 AMRe: Re: A blind chart Dear ChakrabortyJi, My findings are He is Jup-Sat-Me- till 25/10/69 Jup-Sat-ke after that Jupiter will confer recognition and increase in income. Something positively happened no doubt as per Jyotishya. But there is no way you can pin pointly say this is what happened.. anyway we will see on 20th morning from you. I would expect better reasoning from learned and experienced members to say something positively happened to him. I am only a bigginer regds to all sunilJay "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>"ancient_indian_ astrology" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Monday, 19 October, 2009 9:08:37RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: A blind chart Dear Neelam-ji & other members, I would post the result by 20th Morning. regards Chakraborty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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