Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, Namaskar, //Further don't forget that KP system is based on some quotes in Prasnamarga where Prasnamarga describes the method as " Paramam Rahasyam " (Top secret). Thus KP is just an off shoot of the traditional astrology based on some important methods given in Prasnamarga // Kindly elaborate and produce the slokes that points to KP methodology. Please open the Rashayam Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Gopi ji, > Yes, but they are as good as we are and let us appreciate them for that. It is not the question of which method used, but rather - whether that method was effective and whether they were able to reach at least near the truth. Predicting everything 100% accurate is impossible for every one. > And scholars like Ramesh Mishra ji known many systems and mainly considered as well learned KAS scholars. Lajmi and Sudan used KP system for result derivation. My special regards to Lajmi ji providing detailed description of the methodology he used to arrive at the result. > Even though in this group we concentrate on traditional methods we don't have anything against people who follow other methodologies/techniques. As long as someone is able to arrive at correct or near correct result using any method, that should be appreciated - because " Jyotisha Phalamadesha " [Astrologer should be able to predict (correctly)] is the base purpose of any system used. If that purpose is achieved, and he is able to use it consistently to arrive at near correct results in at least 60% of the cases, then whatever system he used has a piece of truth in it - and we should appreciate that system as well as that persons mastery of that system without prejudice. > It is just like treatment methods such as Ayurveda, Allopathy, Homeopathy, Naturopathy etc. They may never agree upon on theoretical fundamentals and methods used - but if they cures the patients (i.e achieves their prime purpose effectively) then that is ok; and they have some truth in them - even if our partial views (from one of that perspective) was unable to capture it effectively. > Further don't forget that KP system is based on some quotes in Prasnamarga where Prasnamarga describes the method as " Paramam Rahasyam " (Top secret). Thus KP is just an off shoot of the traditional astrology based on some important methods given in Prasnamarga whether KPists - including Krishnamoorti - accepts it or not. > We discuss and this group is dedicated to ancient indian astrology; but that does not mean that we are against the modern off shoots of traditional astrology even though we may not be concentrating or discussing them much in this group. we are not against the modern off shoots of traditional astrology, some of which even goes against the fundamentals of traditional system, but the point is this group is not to concentrate or popularize them but instead concentrates on the ancient indian astrology (i.e. traditional system) and discusses and concentrates of the same. > When it comes to theoretical discussions we will blame/discard anything and everything that goes against the foundations of ancient indian astrology - but that DOES NOT mean that all the other methods/techniques are useless, or that there is no amount of truth in them. As Satya prakash ji puts in (in another context) truth CANNOT be comprehend through just one system/method/approach. Truth is usually beyond complete comprehension and all our tools and methodologies are just tools and nets to capture that fish! > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > //In my humble opinion the subject will mist probably meet with > > a life-threatening accident and survive...and be hospitalised for some > > length of time... > > With kind regards, > > Yogesh Lajmi// > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, Ha ha , we don't want any fight, nor do we need to prove anything for any other system. We are just understanding our ancient system in the better way. I recently met an astrologer who is progressing the chart in a very unique way under some nakshatra scheme. He said to me that his concept was originally produced by some bygone era astrologer based on some ancient concept\sloke and that research is not available to anyone. He somehow got that research and now he has tried that technique to more than 400-500 charts and is satisfied by it. [it is more simpler than KP, may be some day that system with his name gets populer like other ]. Since i discussed him the practical example of yogini dasa with nakshatra progression method on some finer points, he revealed to me his system. At nature i am too critic (to all system), i raised many doubts to him to do further research. Whatever system anyone is using , all are part and parcel to ancient astrology. Select the system which suits you best. Osho in his series on BOOK OF SECRETS ( commentary on Bharaiv Tantra) He says that all meditation method which can be possible on earth is told by Shiva to Parvati, it is upon the individual to select " any one " (out of approx. 110 methods) which will be enough to take him to moksha. We see today that many meditation method has been patented under different names by various Gurus, it does not mean that they had done anything new, it is part and parcel of Bhairav Tantra. Shri Ashok Uppadaya an astrologer from Ahmedabad, know for rare and uncanny prediction, uses only & only " Laghu parasari 42 slokes " from various angles, in all his chart analysis [no BHPS, no dasaadhayi, nothing]. He is one of the best astrologer of Gujarat, late C S Patel praised him the lot. [sunil John of Saprishi magazine knows him very closely.] Anyway, if you would had explained the Trisputha rashyam without relating it with KP, it would had been better for all. No worries, i will search it on my own. Some day i will have tea with my nice friend Ramesh Menon (he has all your published books ) here is in my neighbor to have discussion on it. This thread is closed from me . Thankyou, Love & Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > Do you want me to cause a new fight between me and the KPists or > what?!!! [] > Any way the info is - > ====== > The core of KP system based on 3 slokas that discuss 'Trisphuta > based prediction' in the good text 'Prasnamarga'. Applying Dasa- > Anther dasa to zodiac longitude is mentioned there in detail. That is > one of the two sections where Prasnamarga uses the words 'Paramam > Rahasyam' (Top Secret). This is indicates that the system is valid > and well approved by ancient astrological texts. This is an > advantage - and positive points about KP system. Even though > Krishnamoorti took this system, he never admitted from where he > actually took it. > ========== > The above statements are true only about Sub lord theories. The ruling > planets and importance of cusps etc he took from other places. > Note 1: Do you really want to know the 'Paramam Rahasyam' (Top secret) > quotes mean? Then open Prasnamarga and read those lines dealing with > Trisputa based prediction. > Note 2: Don't continue this thread - that will cause an unnecessary > friction; that could be avoided. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vijay.goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > //Further don't forget that KP system is based on some quotes in > Prasnamarga where Prasnamarga describes the method as " Paramam Rahasyam " > (Top secret). Thus KP is just an off shoot of the traditional astrology > based on some important methods given in Prasnamarga // > > > > Kindly elaborate and produce the slokes that points to KP methodology. > > > > Please open the Rashayam > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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