Quiz-2 - RESULT

[Guest guest]

OH Neelamji, I feel like I am watching some popular mystery on the television - sitting on the edge of the seat.....krupa karke jaldi bataayiye!hari smaraNs,prANadAsa.

PS: where is Bhaskar-bhaiyya? no posts in quite a few days...On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All,I thank and congratulate all the 22 participants of this quiz. Only feel sorry for myself for not being able to participate! Nonetheless it has been a wonderful experience. I learnt much from each and every response.

So the results! NOT YET! Abhi barah nahin baje hain (for Renu ji: its not twelve yet!)Before declaring the results, I wish to highlight some points. Please feel free to agree or disagree.There has been an enthusiastic participation, but special bravery awards should go to Manoj ji, Balasubramaniam ji, Vijay Goel ji, Sreenadh ji, Gopu ji who have laboured hard to give us the excellent analysis and reasoning for their readings. It was great learning all the way. Chakraborty ji’s tire-less attempt needs a special mention in this regard.

Some of the members have given just one-liners without assigning any reason to their readings. Kansal ji, Mehta ji, Angelina ji, Sudhir ji, Radha ji, Sprakash ji, Pathi ji, to name some. They could do much better I am sure. We were sadly deprived of their good knowledge. I personally think that this practice may not work well if we are to hold regular quizzes. I would suggest that submission of some basic reasons must be mandatory for any reading. The entry should be disqualified if not accompanied with reasons. Members may give their opinion on this.

Some members like Sreenivas ji, Utkal ji, Dhananjayan ji, Renu ji, Ramesh Mishra ji, Sunder ji are surely capable of giving us a better deal. Hope they will type more and share some more next time.Some members gave multiple responses and covered an entire gamut of possibilities. ‘The more the merrier, as Chakraborty ji said’. I feel multiple readings should not be allowed. The reasoning must be given, but we may ourselves decide one best of the lot and offer that reading for final judgment. At the most one or two similar options may be given, not widely different. This is important to enhance our predictive skills and boost our own confidence. Offering many and varied possibilities does not serve the purpose of the quiz. This also may not be a fair practice, as some of the members have sincerely given their single reading. I leave this point open to discussion.

Different techniques were on display - Sreenadh ji’s CHA and 360 days ayanamsha, Goel ji and Sunder ji using KP, Manoj ji’s fine display of varga prowess, Gopi ji’s Jaimini dasha, etc. besides our normal Vimshottari. This made the quiz very interesting. Balasubramaniam ji has also given different approaches including PVR’s special lagna, though he got more inclined towards the spiritual angle. But his attempt is worth appreciating. We may look forward to many fresh approaches for future quizzes.

This particular quiz has been very interesting and rewarding for

astrology. Each member read the chart in his own way and we received

varied views. Some thought it would be a happy event while others read

a negative event. Interestingly, the event was related to 7H and most

of the members could identify 7H as the house of action. This is a good

achievement of astrology I would say. What was the event? Keep guessing for some more time!I am sure every one is waiting for the results and not ready to listen to this chattering from me. But after the result, I feel my chances of being heard on this are even less.

Now I will come back with the result! :-)RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji,

 

You make this task so very interesting that I don't mind waiting for results as

long as you keep on writing like this!

 

You have got so many of us involved and effortlessly kept the quiz absolutely

live! I wish Sunil Nair ji was here to share all this...

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> I thank and congratulate all the 22 participants of this quiz. Only feel

> sorry for myself for not being able to participate! Nonetheless it has been

> a wonderful experience. I learnt much from each and every response.

>

> So the results! NOT YET! Abhi barah nahin baje hain (for Renu ji: its not

> twelve yet!)

>

> *Before declaring the results, I wish to highlight some points. Please feel

> free to agree or disagree.*

>

> There has been an enthusiastic participation, but special bravery awards

> should go to Manoj ji, Balasubramaniam ji, Vijay Goel ji, Sreenadh ji, Gopu

> ji who have laboured hard to give us the excellent analysis and reasoning

> for their readings. It was great learning all the way. Chakraborty ji's

> tire-less attempt needs a special mention in this regard.

>

> Some of the members have given just one-liners without assigning any reason

> to their readings. Kansal ji, Mehta ji, Angelina ji, Sudhir ji, Radha ji,

> Sprakash ji, Pathi ji, to name some. They could do much better I am sure. We

> were sadly deprived of their good knowledge. I personally think that this

> practice may not work well if we are to hold regular quizzes. I would

> suggest that submission of some basic reasons must be mandatory for any

> reading. The entry should be disqualified if not accompanied with reasons.

> Members may give their opinion on this.

>

> Some members like Sreenivas ji, Utkal ji, Dhananjayan ji, Renu ji, Ramesh

> Mishra ji, Sunder ji are surely capable of giving us a better deal. Hope

> they will type more and share some more next time.

>

> Some members gave multiple responses and covered an entire gamut of

> possibilities. `The more the merrier, as Chakraborty ji said'. I feel

> multiple readings should not be allowed. The reasoning must be given, but we

> may ourselves decide one best of the lot and offer that reading for final

> judgment. At the most one or two similar options may be given, not widely

> different. This is important to enhance our predictive skills and boost our

> own confidence. Offering many and varied possibilities does not serve the

> purpose of the quiz. This also may not be a fair practice, as some of the

> members have sincerely given their single reading. I leave this point open

> to discussion.

>

> Different techniques were on display - Sreenadh ji's CHA and 360 days

> ayanamsha, Goel ji and Sunder ji using KP, Manoj ji's fine display of varga

> prowess, Gopi ji's Jaimini dasha, etc. besides our normal Vimshottari. This

> made the quiz very interesting. Balasubramaniam ji has also given different

> approaches including PVR's special lagna, though he got more inclined

> towards the spiritual angle. But his attempt is worth appreciating. We may

> look forward to many fresh approaches for future quizzes.

>

> This particular quiz has been very interesting and rewarding for astrology.

> Each member read the chart in his own way and we received varied views. Some

> thought it would be a happy event while others read a negative event.

> Interestingly, the event was related to 7H and most of the members could

> identify 7H as the house of action. This is a good achievement of astrology

> I would say. What was the event? Keep guessing for some more time!

>

> I am sure every one is waiting for the results and not ready to listen to

> this chattering from me. But after the result, I feel my chances of being

> heard on this are even less.

>

> Now I will come back with the result! :-)

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

How do you make the table? Do you use Excel?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam <neelamgupta07 Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 10:35:55 AM Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Giving below a compilation of all 22 responses in one place.

 

 

 

 

AIA Quiz 2 ResponsesBT: Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

Event Date for Analysis: 27-Aug-2004

 

 

1.

 

Name

 

Event

 

 

2. 1.

 

Shyam S Kansal

 

Something "very negative" happened related to the significations ruled by 7th house. Most probably, she lost her husband.

 

 

2.

 

Chiranjiv Mehta

 

Burglary or fatal attack on 7th house significators

 

 

3.

 

Angelina Jolie

 

She was attacked and injured, she could've avoided it but she provoked opponents

 

 

4.

 

Sreenadh

 

It was reward, award, getting a lottery or even a gain of power and position.

 

 

5.

 

Vijay Goel

 

Her children could get success in competition exam.Gain of property or children may shift to different place.Long distance travel \ some foreign travel.

Change of service and location

 

 

6.

 

K.Gopu

 

Awarded the highest honour from the govt.

 

 

7.

 

Sudhir

 

A very painful event has happened on that day. Event : death.

 

 

8.

 

S.R.Balasubramaniam

 

The incident should be that she might have some visions of her Ishta devatas or some unique spiritual vision. Initiated to any Mantra Upadesa in PANCHAKSHARI as the 12 th H from Vimsamsa Lagna is sagittarius and Sun is posited there. As Moon is the AK, any mantra relating to Sri Vidya is also possible. But as the native has her own physiological problems pertaining to womanhood, may not have become fit for the Mantra.

 

 

9.

 

Chakraborty

 

A sudden fame A work related activity taking the person for a long foreign stay

A sudden clarity about facts related to 7H..., changing the whole life of the person.

Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.

 

 

10.

 

Radha

 

Did a child get married? There could have been some new contact at this time.

Did she become a grandmother?

There could have been gain of wealth.

Opportunity for leadership, success or fame on that day.

 

 

11.

 

Sundar

 

The husband would have got expired.

 

 

12.

 

Suprakash

 

She faced an accident and was hospitalised. There is a possibility that her husband also died during the period.

 

 

13.

 

Gopi

 

Professional success/gain abroad for husband.

 

 

14.

 

Sheevani

 

Occasion of marriage of son, or some public recognition for self or husband. (this maybe a joyful surprise for native)

 

 

15.

 

Sreeram

 

Negative event and fatal for husband

 

 

16.

 

Dhananjayan

 

Spoil family life of the native and Guru being its Bodhak, it would have hastened her family separation / food poisoning, litigation

 

 

17.

 

Utkal

 

1. A delayed reward should come as period shows gains.2. A possibility to some negative happening to husband and children, but, do not have much clarity at the very moment. After the event (if negative), still time is very good, further gains.

 

 

18.

 

Manoj Chandran

 

DEATH of a parent, resulting in large inheritance for the lady. Since a married woman considers her husband's parents also as her parents, this could be either her or her husband's parent(s), death that resulted in a substantial inheritance.

Native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery.

 

 

19.

 

Renu

 

Marriage ended for this lady.

 

 

20.

 

Ramesh Mishra

 

This lady might have got divorce legally" from her husband due to disharmony in her married life? This lady does not have marital bliss in her life.

 

 

21.

 

Deepak Sharma

 

She lost her husband on 27th August 2004. Else at least some tragedy with husband is expected.

Probably end of marriage life

Accident / hospitalization on 24 Aug 04.

 

 

22.

 

AV Pathi

 

She died by fall from height on 27th August 2004.

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj ji,This one was done in word and a simple cut-paste on the rich text editor as web post.RegardsNeelam2009/10/28 Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

How do you make the table? Do you use Excel? 

Regards,

 -Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam <neelamgupta07

Wed, October 28, 2009 10:35:55 AM Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

 

Dear All,Giving below a compilation of all 22 responses in one place.

 

 

 

 

AIA Quiz 2 ResponsesBT: Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

Event Date for Analysis: 27-Aug-2004

 

 

 

1.         

 

 

Name

 

Event

 

 

2.       1.

 

 

Shyam S Kansal

 

Something " very negative " happened related to the significations ruled by 7th house. Most probably, she lost her husband.

 

 

 

2.

 

Chiranjiv Mehta

 

Burglary or fatal attack on 7th house significators

 

 

3.    

 

 

Angelina Jolie

 

She was attacked and injured, she could've avoided it but she provoked opponents

 

 

4.    

 

 

Sreenadh

 

It was reward, award, getting a lottery or even a gain of power and position.

 

 

5.    

 

 

Vijay Goel

 

Her children could get success in competition exam.Gain of property or children may shift to different place.Long distance travel \ some foreign travel.

Change of service and location

 

 

6.    

 

 

K.Gopu

 

Awarded the highest honour from the govt.

 

 

7.    

 

 

Sudhir

 

A very painful event has happened on that day. Event : death.

 

 

8.    

 

 

S.R.Balasubramaniam

 

The incident should be that she might have some visions of her Ishta devatas or some unique spiritual vision. Initiated to any Mantra Upadesa in PANCHAKSHARI  as the 12 th H from Vimsamsa Lagna is sagittarius and Sun is posited there.  As Moon is the AK, any mantra relating to Sri Vidya is also possible. But as the native has her own physiological problems pertaining to womanhood, may not have become fit for the Mantra.

 

 

 

9.    

 

 

Chakraborty

 

A sudden fame A work related activity taking the person for a long foreign stay

A sudden clarity about facts related to 7H..., changing the whole life of the person. 

Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.

 

 

10.  

 

 

Radha  

 

Did a child get married? There could have been some new contact at this time.

Did she become a grandmother?

There could have been gain of wealth.

Opportunity for leadership, success or fame on that day.

 

 

 

11.  

 

 

Sundar

 

The husband would have got expired.

 

 

12.  

 

 

Suprakash

 

She faced an accident and was hospitalised. There is a possibility that her husband also died during the period.

 

 

13.  

 

 

Gopi

 

Professional success/gain abroad for husband.

 

 

14.  

 

 

Sheevani

 

Occasion of marriage of son, or some public recognition for self or husband. (this maybe a joyful surprise for native)

 

 

15.  

 

 

Sreeram  

 

Negative event and fatal for husband

 

 

16.  

 

 

Dhananjayan

 

Spoil family life of the native and Guru being its Bodhak, it would have hastened her family separation / food poisoning, litigation

 

 

 

17.  

 

 

Utkal 

 

1. A delayed reward should come as period shows gains.2. A possibility to some negative happening to husband and children, but, do not have much clarity at the very moment. After the event (if negative), still time is very good, further gains.

 

 

 

18.  

 

 

Manoj Chandran 

 

DEATH of a parent, resulting in large inheritance for the lady. Since a married woman considers her husband's parents also as her parents, this could be either her or her husband's parent(s), death that resulted in a substantial inheritance.

Native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery.

 

 

 

19.  

 

 

Renu

 

Marriage ended for this lady.

 

 

20.            

 

 

Ramesh Mishra

 

This lady might have got divorce legally " from her husband due to disharmony in her married life? This lady does not have marital bliss in her life.

 

 

 

21.  

 

 

Deepak Sharma 

 

She lost her husband on 27th August 2004. Else at least some tragedy with husband is expected.

Probably end of marriage life

Accident / hospitalization on 24 Aug 04.

 

 

22.            

 

 

AV Pathi

 

She died by fall from height on 27th August 2004.

[Guest guest]

Dear All,Finally the result :-)Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.  Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming malignant. 

I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.:-)As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all would agree with me.  have not been able to read how he got parent’s death, so cannot comment right now. Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and this made his whole exercise so meaningful.

//Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the " other " result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery.//

Chakraborty ji’s correct reading came a little late after he was influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his reading is more accurate!

// Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband’s death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their good readings.

Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them because there are many other things in the 7H.

Some comments if I may:It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read Manoj ji’s excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.

The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which is fairly clear. The fibroids increased in Jupiter’s antar and Mer PD. Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.

I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of event (for those who use them).

I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Dhananjayan Ji,

 

Time is 11:30 AM in Tempe, Arizona where I work . If I sleep now they will Fire me . Which they will do any way if they find out I am spending company time sending Astro emails, BUT fortunately my Career Profile is one of the few strong areas in my chart

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 11:10:17 AMRe: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

 

 

 

 

Pranams,Mr.Manoj ji,Are you still woke-up ? You are declared brave and awarded too !I shall give you special congratulations wake-up call tomorrow at wee hours. joo joo kannurangai ~Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Wed, 28/10/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULTancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, 28 October, 2009, 11:18 PM

 

 

 

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

How do you make the table? Do you use Excel?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, October 28, 2009 10:35:55 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Giving below a compilation of all 22 responses in one place.

 

 

 

 

AIA Quiz 2 ResponsesBT: Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

Event Date for Analysis: 27-Aug-2004

 

 

1.

 

Name

 

Event

 

 

2. 1.

 

Shyam S Kansal

 

Something "very negative" happened related to the significations ruled by 7th house. Most probably, she lost her husband.

 

 

2.

 

Chiranjiv Mehta

 

Burglary or fatal attack on 7th house significators

 

 

3.

 

Angelina Jolie

 

She was attacked and injured, she could've avoided it but she provoked opponents

 

 

4.

 

Sreenadh

 

It was reward, award, getting a lottery or even a gain of power and position.

 

 

5.

 

Vijay Goel

 

Her children could get success in competition exam.Gain of property or children may shift to different place.Long distance travel \ some foreign travel.

Change of service and location

 

 

6.

 

K.Gopu

 

Awarded the highest honour from the govt.

 

 

7.

 

Sudhir

 

A very painful event has happened on that day. Event : death.

 

 

8.

 

S.R.Balasubramaniam

 

The incident should be that she might have some visions of her Ishta devatas or some unique spiritual vision. Initiated to any Mantra Upadesa in PANCHAKSHARI as the 12 th H from Vimsamsa Lagna is sagittarius and Sun is posited there. As Moon is the AK, any mantra relating to Sri Vidya is also possible. But as the native has her own physiological problems pertaining to womanhood, may not have become fit for the Mantra.

 

 

9.

 

Chakraborty

 

A sudden fame A work related activity taking the person for a long foreign stay

A sudden clarity about facts related to 7H..., changing the whole life of the person.

Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.

 

 

10.

 

Radha

 

Did a child get married? There could have been some new contact at this time.

Did she become a grandmother?

There could have been gain of wealth.

Opportunity for leadership, success or fame on that day.

 

 

11.

 

Sundar

 

The husband would have got expired.

 

 

12.

 

Suprakash

 

She faced an accident and was hospitalised. There is a possibility that her husband also died during the period.

 

 

13.

 

Gopi

 

Professional success/gain abroad for husband.

 

 

14.

 

Sheevani

 

Occasion of marriage of son, or some public recognition for self or husband. (this maybe a joyful surprise for native)

 

 

15.

 

Sreeram

 

Negative event and fatal for husband

 

 

16.

 

Dhananjayan

 

Spoil family life of the native and Guru being its Bodhak, it would have hastened her family separation / food poisoning, litigation

 

 

17.

 

Utkal

 

1. A delayed reward should come as period shows gains.2. A possibility to some negative happening to husband and children, but, do not have much clarity at the very moment. After the event (if negative), still time is very good, further gains.

 

 

18.

 

Manoj Chandran

 

DEATH of a parent, resulting in large inheritance for the lady. Since a married woman considers her husband's parents also as her parents, this could be either her or her husband's parent(s), death that resulted in a substantial inheritance.

Native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery.

 

 

19.

 

Renu

 

Marriage ended for this lady.

 

 

20.

 

Ramesh Mishra

 

This lady might have got divorce legally" from her husband due to disharmony in her married life? This lady does not have marital bliss in her life.

 

 

21.

 

Deepak Sharma

 

She lost her husband on 27th August 2004. Else at least some tragedy with husband is expected.

Probably end of marriage life

Accident / hospitalization on 24 Aug 04.

 

 

22.

 

AV Pathi

 

She died by fall from height on 27th August 2004.

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji,

 

Thanks so much for the quiz and the final result. Your involvement made it still

more interesting for which you too deserve chocolates from all of us:)

 

blessings,

 

Renu

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> *Finally the result :-)*

>

> Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

> Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004

>

> *The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of

> uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming

> malignant. *

>

> *I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about

> winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.:-)*

>

> As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest

> congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but

> also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It

> was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all would agree with me. have not

> been able to read how he got parent's death, so cannot comment right now.

> Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The

> sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and

> this made his whole exercise so meaningful.

> //Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a

> heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of

> a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast

> hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the " other "

> result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu

> antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to

> fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery

> .//

>

> Chakraborty ji's correct reading came a little late after he was influenced

> by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier

> stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of

> uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji

> will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his

> reading is more accurate!

> // Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//

>

> Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation

> part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband's

> death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their

> good readings.

>

> Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only

> think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them

> because there are many other things in the 7H.

> *

> Some comments if I may:*

> It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read

> Manoj ji's excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in

> 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for

> health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor

> of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury's other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn

> in 12H.

>

> The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which

> is fairly clear. The fibroids increased in Jupiter's antar and Mer PD. Mars

> SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.

>

> I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed

> and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs

> come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by

> 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm

> to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter

> aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is

> afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of

> event (for those who use them).

>

> *I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any

> inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.*

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam-ji & forums,

 

I was guessing (not predicting) that the event should involve self, 7H, 5H & 8H

& Rahu too...but was unsure about such an event which will involve all these

ifactors. So, I was beating around the bush by giving 3 guesses. After a mail

indicated possibility of roga & urinary problem, suddenly all clues of the

puzzle fell in place.

 

Anyway, I again re-iterate that my solving of the puzzle was more of a

guess-work or HUNCH... less to do with methodical astrological analyses.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> *Finally the result :-)*

>

> Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

> Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004

>

> *The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of

> uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming

> malignant. *

>

> *I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about

> winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.:-)*

>

> As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest

> congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but

> also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It

> was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all would agree with me. have not

> been able to read how he got parent's death, so cannot comment right now.

> Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The

> sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and

> this made his whole exercise so meaningful.

> //Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a

> heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of

> a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast

> hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the " other "

> result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu

> antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to

> fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery

> .//

>

> Chakraborty ji's correct reading came a little late after he was influenced

> by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier

> stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of

> uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji

> will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his

> reading is more accurate!

> // Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//

>

> Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation

> part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband's

> death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their

> good readings.

>

> Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only

> think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them

> because there are many other things in the 7H.

> *

> Some comments if I may:*

> It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read

> Manoj ji's excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in

> 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for

> health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor

> of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury's other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn

> in 12H.

>

> The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which

> is fairly clear. The fibroids increased in Jupiter's antar and Mer PD. Mars

> SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.

>

> I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed

> and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs

> come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by

> 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm

> to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter

> aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is

> afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of

> event (for those who use them).

>

> *I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any

> inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.*

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

Thank you for the wonderful quiz. While Venus (Karak for Uterus and 9L) and Sun(Karak for Father and for health in general) are afflicted, 7H cusp being afflicted is the clincher. On the other hand 9th house is not afflicted and made the other reasoning not to fructify.

 

It is also interesting to note that in Navamsha, Dwadashamsha and Saptamsha Ju-Me have a 6/8 relationship indicating a very stressful period for the entire family.

 

As Always the REAL winner is Jyotish and Ancient Indian Astrology !!!

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 11:24:21 AMRe: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Finally the result :-)Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi. Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming malignant. I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all

would agree with me. have not been able to read how he got parent’s death, so cannot comment right now. Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and this made his whole exercise so meaningful.//Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the "other" result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for

surgery.//Chakraborty ji’s correct reading came a little late after he was influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his reading is more accurate!// Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband’s death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their good readings. Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them because there are many other things in the 7H.Some comments if I may:It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read Manoj ji’s excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which is fairly clear. The fibroids increased

in Jupiter’s antar and Mer PD. Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of event (for those who use them).I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

//Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.//

 

That is a wonderful point !

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 11:24:21 AMRe: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Finally the result :-)Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi. Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming malignant. I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all

would agree with me. have not been able to read how he got parent’s death, so cannot comment right now. Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and this made his whole exercise so meaningful.//Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the "other" result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for

surgery.//Chakraborty ji’s correct reading came a little late after he was influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his reading is more accurate!// Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband’s death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their good readings. Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them because there are many other things in the 7H.Some comments if I may:It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read Manoj ji’s excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which is fairly clear. The fibroids increased

in Jupiter’s antar and Mer PD. Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of event (for those who use them).I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Neelam ji,

Thank you for your quiz, and congratulations to Manoj ji. Everyone is to be

commended for participating and offering their verdict. The dates of birth of

the children and the hysterectomy on August 24, leads me to believe that a

Capricorn ascendant is more appropriate than an Aquarius one. Could there have

been an eight minute error in time? Just my 2 paise.

 

--Radha

[Guest guest]

Dear Radha Ji,

 

From my perspective Capricon ascendant would have had a disastrous marriage and by now divorced. 7H Rahu, with direct Retro Saturn aspect, with neither the 7L nor the 7H getting the aspect of Jupiter, with 7L gone to the 2H conjunct 12L and 3L Jupiter. So just with this factor I feel it may not fit the events.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

aphoton47 <aphoton47 Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 4:32:11 PM Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Neelam ji,Thank you for your quiz, and congratulations to Manoj ji. Everyone is to be commended for participating and offering their verdict. The dates of birth of the children and the hysterectomy on August 24, leads me to believe that a Capricorn ascendant is more appropriate than an Aquarius one. Could there have been an eight minute error in time? Just my 2 paise.--Radha

[Guest guest]

Dear Dhananjayan Ji,

 

//Thanks to Astro -jambhavans / Kaliyuka Brahmas like Mr.Manoj ji who have exactly hammered on the nail's head and with whose participation have proved beyond doubt that blind squirrels will never succeed...//

 

I am only an Astro-Student, many many years from graduating even from that status. I may not be a blind squirrel but only a hard working Ant who builds things methodically one small bit at a time. Only credit I will take is I am open minded and willing to learn without preconceived notions or arrogance.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 4:53:29 PMRe: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

 

 

 

 

 

Pranams,Ms.Neelam ji,Thanks for your strenuous Herculean task of conducting quiz giving us all 'chockla' to the extent of our contributions.Even for my casual observations viz.,"Guru is Bodhak to Mercury.5th lord Mercury in the 7th house would spoil family life of the native and Guru being its Bodhak,it would have hastened her family separation / food poisoning.Gochar Guru in the 8th house would have given her rOgha,sOkha, vinnaasana. 5th house gochar Saturn would have given her Bhandhu-jena manusthaapa, litigation".You have magnanimously honored me with your gifts of moderation chocolate while my delineations were no where near reality. Thanks to Astro -jambhavans / Kaliyuka Brahmas like Mr.Manoj ji who have exactly hammered on the nail's head and with whose participation have proved beyond doubt that blind squirrels will never succeed... I wish them the best in their future predictions and wish them many more returns of the day!Regards/DhanajayanPS: Now I understand, removal of uterus in ladies in their yavana years would promote more and more 'kutumbha a_n-yonyam' and fulfillment of conjugal vows than spoiling family life..--- On Thu, 29/10/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULTancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, 29 October, 2009, 2:05 AM

 

 

 

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

//Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.//

 

That is a wonderful point !

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, October 28, 2009 11:24:21 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Finally the result :-)Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi. Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming malignant. I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all

would agree with me. have not been able to read how he got parent’s death, so cannot comment right now. Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and this made his whole exercise so meaningful.//Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the "other" result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for

surgery.//Chakraborty ji’s correct reading came a little late after he was influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his reading is more accurate!// Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband’s death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their good readings. Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them because there are many other things in the 7H.Some comments if I may:It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read Manoj ji’s excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which is fairly clear. The fibroids increased

in Jupiter’s antar and Mer PD. Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of event (for those who use them).I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.RegardsNeelam

 

 

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Respected Members,//Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi. Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming malignant.// I thanks Ms. Neelamji for providing and anchoring this quiz so nicely.\\For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of event (for those who use them).\\This point is always neglected by me (even before), my mind never goes to this aspect due to non-interest, a weakness of biased mind which should be overcome.She has disease prone body can be seen from many angles, and Rahu in 6th house protecting her by increasing immune power of body and by providing right treatment at right time, preventing from bad to worse. Incidentally at that time she was also running Rahu natural\maturity period at 42 years.I also thanks Manojji for the explanations pointing towards right conclusions, Use of Dagdha Rasi concept of Sri Iyer's at transit was most appealing and new to me.WONDERFUL ! Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Manoj ji,You are Sterling among the $ ,our group knows your worth.you are a simpleton of unassuming nature.. I wish you many more credits to follow in quick succession.Go in for 'mega million' cash value-ensuing bumper be yours!All the best,Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Thu, 29/10/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT Date: Thursday, 29 October, 2009, 6:08 AM

 

 

 

Dear Dhananjayan Ji,

 

//Thanks to Astro -jambhavans / Kaliyuka Brahmas like Mr.Manoj ji who have exactly hammered on the nail's head and with whose participation have proved beyond doubt that blind squirrels will never succeed...//

 

I am only an Astro-Student, many many years from graduating even from that status. I may not be a blind squirrel but only a hard working Ant who builds things methodically one small bit at a time. Only credit I will take is I am open minded and willing to learn without preconceived notions or arrogance.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya >ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, October 28, 2009 4:53:29 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

 

 

 

 

 

Pranams,Ms.Neelam ji,Thanks for your strenuous Herculean task of conducting quiz giving us all 'chockla' to the extent of our contributions.Even for my casual observations viz.,"Guru is Bodhak to Mercury.5th lord Mercury in the 7th house would spoil family life of the native and Guru being its Bodhak,it would have hastened her family separation / food poisoning.Gochar Guru in the 8th house would have given her rOgha,sOkha, vinnaasana. 5th house gochar Saturn would have given her Bhandhu-jena manusthaapa, litigation".You have magnanimously honored me with your gifts of moderation chocolate while my delineations were no where near reality. Thanks to Astro -jambhavans / Kaliyuka Brahmas like Mr.Manoj ji who have exactly hammered on the nail's head and with whose participation have proved beyond doubt that blind squirrels will never succeed... I wish them the best in their future predictions and wish them many more returns of the day!Regards/DhanajayanPS: Now I understand, removal of uterus in ladies in their yavana years would promote more and more 'kutumbha a_n-yonyam' and fulfillment of conjugal vows than spoiling family life..--- On Thu, 29/10/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULTancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, 29 October, 2009, 2:05 AM

 

 

 

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

//Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.//

 

That is a wonderful point !

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, October 28, 2009 11:24:21 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Finally the result :-)Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi. Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming malignant. I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It was an excellent demonstration,

I am sure all

would agree with me. have not been able to read how he got parent’s death, so cannot comment right now. Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and this made his whole exercise so meaningful.//Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the "other" result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for

surgery.//Chakraborty ji’s correct reading came a little late after he was influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his reading is more accurate!// Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband’s death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their good readings. Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them because there are many other things in the 7H.Some comments if I may:It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read Manoj ji’s excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which is

fairly clear. The fibroids increased

in Jupiter’s antar and Mer PD. Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of event (for those who use them).I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.RegardsNeelam

 

 

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Dear Mr. Manoj ji,My overwhelming enthuse totally made me to forget your Arizonan prominence.Error regretted.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Wed, 28/10/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT Date: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 11:58 PM

 

 

 

Dear Dhananjayan Ji,

 

Time is 11:30 AM in Tempe, Arizona where I work . If I sleep now they will Fire me . Which they will do any way if they find out I am spending company time sending Astro emails, BUT fortunately my Career Profile is one of the few strong areas in my chart

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya >ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, October 28, 2009 11:10:17 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

 

 

 

 

Pranams,Mr.Manoj ji,Are you still woke-up ? You are declared brave and awarded too !I shall give you special congratulations wake-up call tomorrow at wee hours. joo joo kannurangai ~Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Wed, 28/10/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULTancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, 28 October, 2009, 11:18 PM

 

 

 

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

How do you make the table? Do you use Excel?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, October 28, 2009 10:35:55 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Giving below a compilation of all 22 responses in one place.

 

 

 

 

AIA Quiz 2 ResponsesBT: Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

Event Date for Analysis: 27-Aug-2004

 

 

1.

 

Name

 

Event

 

 

2. 1.

 

Shyam S Kansal

 

Something "very negative" happened related to the significations ruled by 7th house. Most probably, she lost her husband.

 

 

2.

 

Chiranjiv Mehta

 

Burglary or fatal attack on 7th house significators

 

 

3.

 

Angelina Jolie

 

She was attacked and injured, she could've avoided it but she provoked opponents

 

 

4.

 

Sreenadh

 

It was reward, award, getting a lottery or even a gain of power and position.

 

 

5.

 

Vijay Goel

 

Her children could get success in competition exam.Gain of property or children may shift to different place.Long distance travel \ some foreign travel.

Change of service and location

 

 

6.

 

K.Gopu

 

Awarded the highest honour from the govt.

 

 

7.

 

Sudhir

 

A very painful event has happened on that day. Event : death.

 

 

8.

 

S.R.Balasubramaniam

 

The incident should be that she might have some visions of her Ishta devatas or some unique spiritual vision. Initiated to any Mantra Upadesa in PANCHAKSHARI as the 12 th H from Vimsamsa Lagna is sagittarius and Sun is posited there. As Moon is the AK, any mantra relating to Sri Vidya is also possible. But as the native has her own physiological problems pertaining to womanhood, may not have become fit for the Mantra.

 

 

9.

 

Chakraborty

 

A sudden fame A work related activity taking the person for a long foreign stay

A sudden clarity about facts related to 7H..., changing the whole life of the person.

Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.

 

 

10.

 

Radha

 

Did a child get married? There could have been some new contact at this time.

Did she become a grandmother?

There could have been gain of wealth.

Opportunity for leadership, success or fame on that day.

 

 

11.

 

Sundar

 

The husband would have got expired.

 

 

12.

 

Suprakash

 

She faced an accident and was hospitalised. There is a possibility that her husband also died during the period.

 

 

13.

 

Gopi

 

Professional success/gain abroad for husband.

 

 

14.

 

Sheevani

 

Occasion of marriage of son, or some public recognition for self or husband. (this maybe a joyful surprise for native)

 

 

15.

 

Sreeram

 

Negative event and fatal for husband

 

 

16.

 

Dhananjayan

 

Spoil family life of the native and Guru being its Bodhak, it would have hastened her family separation / food poisoning, litigation

 

 

17.

 

Utkal

 

1. A delayed reward should come as period shows gains.2. A possibility to some negative happening to husband and children, but, do not have much clarity at the very moment. After the event (if negative), still time is very good, further gains.

 

 

18.

 

Manoj Chandran

 

DEATH of a parent, resulting in large inheritance for the lady. Since a married woman considers her husband's parents also as her parents, this could be either her or her husband's parent(s), death that resulted in a substantial inheritance.

Native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery.

 

 

19.

 

Renu

 

Marriage ended for this lady.

 

 

20.

 

Ramesh Mishra

 

This lady might have got divorce legally" from her husband due to disharmony in her married life? This lady does not have marital bliss in her life.

 

 

21.

 

Deepak Sharma

 

She lost her husband on 27th August 2004. Else at least some tragedy with husband is expected.

Probably end of marriage life

Accident / hospitalization on 24 Aug 04.

 

 

22.

 

AV Pathi

 

She died by fall from height on 27th August 2004.

 

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Namaste Neelamji,

 

The exercise was a good one...... and revealing....

 

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Radha Ji,

 

I agree not always, but I thought in this case it might. But that aside, with Capricon Lagna, Venus is now in the 9H instead of 8H! So the Karak for Uterus is much stronger (even though deb he is in 9H). Why do you think this is more indicative of the illness?

 

Also 8H in my understanding would represent more of the outer organs, while 7H will represent the Uterus, Ovary, Kidney and Bladder etc. So doesn't the transit affliction to the 7H make it more likely to be in the Uterus?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

aphoton47 <aphoton47 Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:24:05 PM Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Manoj ji,With all due respect, I should say that it does not always indicate divorce. I have seen similar combinations in the charts of women who have had Cancer and a hysterectomy. All this could affect the quality of married life, but may not necessarily lead to divorce. Re. the chart being discussed, Gajakesari yoga involving the 7L could show a good husband.--Radha

[Guest guest]

Dear Chakraborty Ji,

 

 

a) "removal of organ" and that too as "a part of treatment"

b) Very clear-cut indication of surgery. Although Mars-Ketu connection

has been discussed... was it so prominent ? (many of us missed

it)

 

Surgery is very clear. In Rashi Mars aspects Venus. Mars is one of those "special planets in the chart". Specially malefic planets are those

a) In the 8H

b) Aspecting the 8H

c) 8th Lord

d) 22nd Drekkana Lord

e) 64th Navamsha Lord

 

Mars is not only b) but also in the house of c) and d) and as Neelam Ji so astutely pointed out, it also aspects LL Saturn.

 

In transit Mars is transiting 7H.

 

In Rashi, Ketu is aspecting Venus with a very close aspect, almost dead ON. In transit also Ketu is aspecting Venus, from Venus's house. Any planet aspecting another planet from that planet's house, is a powerful influence. Same poweful influence also exists by Ketu on Saturn.

 

 

c) The vim. dasha analysis.... almost everybody attempted it &

missed. Where are we going wrong ?

 

 

I thought I clearly explained this but maybe I did not do a good enough job. Where we all went wrong (Including me in my first answer) is picking the wrong significations AND/OR in picking which Lordship will dominate.

 

Me 5L/8L : Many picked 5L over 8L. Why? 8L is the MT sign of Me. So should we not at the least Mix the two significations? I used another clue from Iyer's technique where Leo is a Dagdha Rashi. Hence 5L being in a "burnt" rashi gets burnt more than 8L. So I figured 8L might dominate. Further with all the transit clues, negative event probably means more 8L dominance.

 

Ju: 2L/11L: Here we all are brainwashed to believe all great things about the 11H and forget the fundamental Bhavath Bhavam principle that 11H is 6th from the 6th. So it is equally capable of producing illness. It also convenient to think about 11H in the same breath as 2H and hence assign positive meanings to 2H instead of Marak.

 

So in balance, Vim Dasha works. The Key was to figure whether this was a positive or negative event. Once that is correctly figured out then the different possible negative connotations come out.

 

d) Does the Application of Varga-charts helps anyway in focussing ?

 

Defenitely. I hope my long explanations atleast proved this. Especially when we see Jupiter being in trines to both Lagna of Rashi and Lagna of Navamsha and Vargottam on one hand and the same Jupiter being in the Amsha of Me in Drekkana and Me being in the Amsha of Jupiter in the same Drekkana, clearly indicates this period as one of danger healthwise. Project Ju back to the Rashi from the Drekkana and you get back to Gemini in the Rashi chart. This is ominous because it is still Mercury's sign. Similarly you can do the exercise in each domain and obtain confluent results. I also experiemented with Ashtamsha and got good results.

 

1) While looking at Transits, the natural signification of planets are

more important. Many of us looked at the transit of Mars in 7H.

However, initially I took it as 3rd 7 10th lord only. When I looked

it as 'significator of 'Surgery', things became clearer.

 

Yes, but both are important. Mercury's transit is mightily critical because of his potent malefic nature (functionally).

 

 

2) While checking Dasha, it is important to look at the preceeding

AD too. Neelam-ji's explanation about fibroid in Rahu & Jup AD

is self-explanatory

 

Yes, this was a big clue for me too. Rahu being in the 6H sets it up with the help of Moon the 6L and then Jupiter brings it to frution. Dasha sequence is critical.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

"Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 Wed, October 28, 2009 9:29:38 PMRE: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

 

Dear Neelam-ji & forum,

 

Before we move away from this quiz, I need to learn something.

This is important as the focus was more on Methodology than

on accuracy of the results.

 

The quiz was about finding "removal of disease & organ" through

"surgery" in a particular area (7H here).

 

The involvement of 7H was easiliy detectable. Almost everybody

detected it.

 

But among many significations, how do we pick on

 

a) "removal of organ" and that too as "a part of treatment"

b) Very clear-cut indication of surgery. Although Mars-Ketu connection

has been discussed... was it so prominent ? (many of us missed

it).

c) The vim. dasha analysis.... almost everybody attempted it &

missed. Where are we going wrong ?

d) Does the Application of Varga-charts helps anyway in focussing ?

 

Observations/ learning that I picked up :

 

1) While looking at Transits, the natural signification of planets are

more important. Many of us looked at the transit of Mars in 7H.

However, initially I took it as 3rd 7 10th lord only. When I looked

it as 'significator of 'Surgery', things became clearer.

2) While checking Dasha, it is important to look at the preceeding

AD too. Neelam-ji's explanation about fibroid in Rahu & Jup AD

is self-explanatory.

 

Regards

 

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of neelam guptaWednesday, October 28, 2009 11:54 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear All,Finally the result :-)Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi. Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming malignant. I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all

would agree with me. have not been able to read how he got parent’s death, so cannot comment right now. Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and this made his whole exercise so meaningful.//Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the "other" result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for

surgery.//Chakraborty ji’s correct reading came a little late after he was influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his reading is more accurate!// Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband’s death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their good readings. Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them because there are many other things in the 7H.Some comments if I may:It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read Manoj ji’s excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury’s other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn in 12H.The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which is fairly clear. The fibroids increased

in Jupiter’s antar and Mer PD. Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of event (for those who use them).I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.RegardsNeelam

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Dear Manoj ji,

//they will Fire me . Which they will do any way if they find out I am spending

company time sending Astro emails, BUT fortunately my Career Profile is one of

the few strong areas in my chart :)//

Ha..Ha...The same is true for me as well.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Dhananjayan Ji,

>

> Time is 11:30 AM in Tempe, Arizona where I work . If I sleep now they will

Fire me . Which they will do any way if they find out I am spending company time

sending Astro emails, BUT fortunately my Career Profile is one of the few strong

areas in my chart

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya

>

> Wed, October 28, 2009 11:10:17 AM

> Re: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

>

>  

> Pranams,

>

> Mr.Manoj ji,

>

> Are you still woke-up ? You are declared brave and awarded too !

> I shall give you special congratulations wake-up call tomorrow at wee hours.

joo joo kannurangai ~

> Regards/Dhananjayan

[Guest guest]

True! Well said!

 

, " renunw " <renunw wrote:

>

>

> Dear Neelam ji,

>

> Thanks so much for the quiz and the final result. Your involvement made it

still more interesting for which you too deserve chocolates from all of us:)

>

> blessings,

>

> Renu

[Guest guest]

dear Chakraborthiji,

COngrats for ur correct analysis.

 

regards,

k.gopu --- On Thu, 10/29/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:

sreesog <sreesog Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 10:54 AM

Dear Neelam ji and all, My hearty congratulations especially to Manoj ji and Chakraborty ji for their correct readings. :)//> Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them because there are many other things in the 7H.////> I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter aspects both lord and the house.//Yes, this is important pointer which many of us overlooked.Love and regards,Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > *Finally the result :-)*> > Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.> Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004> > *The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal of> uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of becoming> malignant. *> > *I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about> winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)*> > As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest> congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but> also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process.

It> was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all would agree with me. have not> been able to read how he got parent's death, so cannot comment right now.> Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The> sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and> this made his whole exercise so meaningful.> //Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a> heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of> a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast> hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the "other"> result for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu> antar sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to> fruition. Close involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery>

..//> > Chakraborty ji's correct reading came a little late after he was influenced> by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his earlier> stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and removal of> uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope Chakraborty ji> will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji though his> reading is more accurate!> // Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//> > Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with hospitalisation> part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the husband's> death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them for their> good readings.> > Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could only> think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for them> because

there are many other things in the 7H.> *> Some comments if I may:*> It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please read> Manoj ji's excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd DkNL in> 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil for> health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the dispositor> of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury's other sign virgo and also the LL Saturn> in 12H.> > The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital which> is fairly clear. The fibroids increased in Jupiter's antar and Mer PD. Mars> SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.> > I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be listed> and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative organs> come strictly under

7H significations. For ladies uterus is represented by> 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in 7H causes harm> to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband Jupiter> aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which is> afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature of> event (for those who use them).> > *I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is any> inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.*> > Regards> Neelam>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chakraborty ji,

That is your humbleness. Intuition coupled with our unconscious

understanding of the subject has equal role to play like a conscious methodical

analysis. They are both sides of the same coin.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " chakrathewheel "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam-ji & forums,

>

> I was guessing (not predicting) that the event should involve self, 7H, 5H &

8H & Rahu too...but was unsure about such an event which will involve all these

ifactors. So, I was beating around the bush by giving 3 guesses. After a mail

indicated possibility of roga & urinary problem, suddenly all clues of the

puzzle fell in place.

>

> Anyway, I again re-iterate that my solving of the puzzle was more of a

guess-work or HUNCH... less to do with methodical astrological analyses.

>

> regards

>

> Chakraborty

[Guest guest]

Dear Chakraborty ji,

True. It is such learning points that make every exercise worthy.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam-ji & forum,

>

> Before we move away from this quiz, I need to learn something.

> This is important as the focus was more on Methodology than

> on accuracy of the results.

>

> The quiz was about finding " removal of disease & organ " through

> " surgery " in a particular area (7H here).

>

> The involvement of 7H was easiliy detectable. Almost everybody

> detected it.

>

> But among many significations, how do we pick on

>

> a) " removal of organ " and that too as " a part of treatment "

> b) Very clear-cut indication of surgery. Although Mars-Ketu connection

> has been discussed... was it so prominent ? (many of us missed

> it).

> c) The vim. dasha analysis....almost everybody attempted it &

> missed. Where are we going wrong ?

> d) Does the Application of Varga-charts helps anyway in focussing ?

>

>

> Observations/learning that I picked up :

>

> 1) While looking at Transits, the natural signification of planets are

> more important. Many of us looked at the transit of Mars in 7H.

> However, initially I took it as 3rd 7 10th lord only. When I looked

> it as 'significator of 'Surgery', things became clearer.

> 2) While checking Dasha, it is important to look at the preceeding

> AD too. Neelam-ji's explanation about fibroid in Rahu & Jup AD

> is self-explanatory.

>

>

> Regards

>

>

> Chakraborty

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh-ji,

 

Sir, it is your greatness. The problem with intuition is

'It is not reproducible'. And I am trying to learn the methodology

and it Correct Application everytime.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

On Behalf Of sreesogThursday, October 29, 2009 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

Dear Chakraborty ji, That is your humbleness. Intuition coupled with our unconscious understanding of the subject has equal role to play like a conscious methodical analysis. They are both sides of the same coin. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "chakrathewheel" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Neelam-ji & forums,> > I was guessing (not predicting) that the event should involve self, 7H, 5H & 8H & Rahu too...but was unsure about such an event which will involve all these ifactors. So, I was beating around the bush by giving 3 guesses. After a mail indicated possibility of roga & urinary problem, suddenly all clues of the puzzle fell in place. > > Anyway, I again re-iterate that my solving of the puzzle was more of a guess-work or HUNCH... less to do with methodical astrological analyses.> > regards> > ChakrabortyThis Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.