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1. Surgery

2. Parent's death, pls clarify if both father and mother died.

 

I m sorry if i m going wrong, another discussion which risks truth of our vedic

roots is keeping me busy.

 

Regards,

Utkal

 

ancient_i,ndian_astrology , neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> Which two events are you talking about?

> Sorry could not get you!

> Could you please be a little more specific?

> Thanks.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

> 2009/10/29 utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

>

> >

> >

> > Neelam Ji,

> >

> > Query is still pending with you.

> >

> > Rgds,

> > Utkal

> >

> >

> > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Neelam Ji,

> > >

> > > Wish to know if both the events happend same day.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Utkal

> > > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoj-ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have gone thru' your earlier replies. I must confess here

> > > > that I could not fully absorb your explanations due to my

> > > > limitations.

> > > >

> > > > My question was for others who have missed. Those who try and

> > > > misses are sometimes in a better position to understand limitations

> > > > of average students like me.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, surgery was clear in hindsight. Even I somehow clicked that

> > > > part. But " removal of organ " is not clear. Please note that removal

> > > > of organ is even applicable for tonsilitis / Kidney / Lungs (partial)

> > > > Liver (partial) etc. And how do I find that ?

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I have not used aspect from Ketu. It was there with Saturn

> > > > in Rashi chart. In navamsa, it moved to Taurus (or may be Aries,

> > > > depending on Ayanamsa used).

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Chakraborty

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > >

<%40.\

com>[

> >

<%40.\

com>]

> > On Behalf Of Manoj Chandran

> > > > Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:48 AM

> > > > To:

<%40.\

com>

> > > > Re: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chakraborty Ji,

> > > >

> > > > a) " removal of organ " and that too as " a part of treatment "

> > > > b) Very clear-cut indication of surgery. Although Mars-Ketu connection

> > > > has been discussed... was it so prominent ? (many of us missed

> > > > it)

> > > >

> > > > Surgery is very clear. In Rashi Mars aspects Venus. Mars is one of

> > those " special planets in the chart " . Specially malefic planets are those

> > > > a) In the 8H

> > > > b) Aspecting the 8H

> > > > c) 8th Lord

> > > > d) 22nd Drekkana Lord

> > > > e) 64th Navamsha Lord

> > > >

> > > > Mars is not only b) but also in the house of c) and d) and as Neelam Ji

> > so astutely pointed out, it also aspects LL Saturn.

> > > >

> > > > In transit Mars is transiting 7H.

> > > >

> > > > In Rashi, Ketu is aspecting Venus with a very close aspect, almost dead

> > ON. In transit also Ketu is aspecting Venus, from Venus's house. Any planet

> > aspecting another planet from that planet's house, is a powerful influence.

> > Same poweful influence also exists by Ketu on Saturn.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > c) The vim. dasha analysis.... almost everybody attempted it &

> > > > missed. Where are we going wrong ?

> > > >

> > > > I thought I clearly explained this but maybe I did not do a good enough

> > job. Where we all went wrong (Including me in my first answer) is picking

> > the wrong significations AND/OR in picking which Lordship will dominate.

> > > >

> > > > Me 5L/8L : Many picked 5L over 8L. Why? 8L is the MT sign of Me. So

> > should we not at the least Mix the two significations? I used another clue

> > from Iyer's technique where Leo is a Dagdha Rashi. Hence 5L being in a

> > " burnt " rashi gets burnt more than 8L. So I figured 8L might dominate.

> > Further with all the transit clues, negative event probably means more 8L

> > dominance.

> > > >

> > > > Ju: 2L/11L: Here we all are brainwashed to believe all great things

> > about the 11H and forget the fundamental Bhavath Bhavam principle that 11H

> > is 6th from the 6th. So it is equally capable of producing illness. It also

> > convenient to think about 11H in the same breath as 2H and hence assign

> > positive meanings to 2H instead of Marak.

> > > >

> > > > So in balance, Vim Dasha works. The Key was to figure whether this was

> > a positive or negative event. Once that is correctly figured out then the

> > different possible negative connotations come out.

> > > >

> > > > d) Does the Application of Varga-charts helps anyway in focussing ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Defenitely. I hope my long explanations atleast proved this. Especially

> > when we see Jupiter being in trines to both Lagna of Rashi and Lagna of

> > Navamsha and Vargottam on one hand and the same Jupiter being in the Amsha

> > of Me in Drekkana and Me being in the Amsha of Jupiter in the same Drekkana,

> > clearly indicates this period as one of danger healthwise. Project Ju back

> > to the Rashi from the Drekkana and you get back to Gemini in the Rashi

> > chart. This is ominous because it is still Mercury's sign. Similarly you can

> > do the exercise in each domain and obtain confluent results. I also

> > experiemented with Ashtamsha and got good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1) While looking at Transits, the natural signification of planets are

> > > >

> > > > more important. Many of us looked at the transit of Mars in 7H.

> > > > However, initially I took it as 3rd 7 10th lord only. When I looked

> > > > it as 'significator of 'Surgery', things became clearer.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, but both are important. Mercury's transit is mightily critical

> > because of his potent malefic nature (functionally).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2) While checking Dasha, it is important to look at the preceeding

> > > > AD too. Neelam-ji's explanation about fibroid in Rahu & Jup AD

> > > > is self-explanatory

> > > >

> > > > Yes, this was a big clue for me too. Rahu being in the 6H sets it up

> > with the help of Moon the 6L and then Jupiter brings it to frution. Dasha

> > sequence is critical.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > -Manoj

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@>

> > > > To:

" <%40\

..com> "

> >

< <%40\

..com>

> > >

> > > > Wed, October 28, 2009 9:29:38 PM

> > > > RE: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelam-ji & forum,

> > > >

> > > > Before we move away from this quiz, I need to learn something.

> > > > This is important as the focus was more on Methodology than

> > > > on accuracy of the results.

> > > >

> > > > The quiz was about finding " removal of disease & organ " through

> > > > " surgery " in a particular area (7H here).

> > > >

> > > > The involvement of 7H was easiliy detectable. Almost everybody

> > > > detected it.

> > > >

> > > > But among many significations, how do we pick on

> > > >

> > > > a) " removal of organ " and that too as " a part of treatment "

> > > > b) Very clear-cut indication of surgery. Although Mars-Ketu connection

> > > > has been discussed... was it so prominent ? (many of us missed

> > > > it).

> > > > c) The vim. dasha analysis.... almost everybody attempted it &

> > > > missed. Where are we going wrong ?

> > > > d) Does the Application of Varga-charts helps anyway in focussing ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Observations/ learning that I picked up :

> > > >

> > > > 1) While looking at Transits, the natural signification of planets are

> > > > more important. Many of us looked at the transit of Mars in 7H.

> > > > However, initially I took it as 3rd 7 10th lord only. When I looked

> > > > it as 'significator of 'Surgery', things became clearer.

> > > > 2) While checking Dasha, it is important to look at the preceeding

> > > > AD too. Neelam-ji's explanation about fibroid in Rahu & Jup AD

> > > > is self-explanatory.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chakraborty

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

[ ] On Behalf Of neelam gupta

> > > > Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:54 PM

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Finally the result :-)

> > > >

> > > > Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

> > > > Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004

> > > >

> > > > The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal

> > of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of

> > becoming malignant.

> > > >

> > > > I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about

> > winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)

> > > >

> > > > As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest

> > congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but

> > also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It

> > was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all would agree with me. have not

> > been able to read how he got parent's death, so cannot comment right now.

> > Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The

> > sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and

> > this made his whole exercise so meaningful.

> > > > //Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a

> > heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of

> > a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast

> > hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the " other " result

> > for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar

> > sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close

> > involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery.//

> > > >

> > > > Chakraborty ji's correct reading came a little late after he was

> > influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his

> > earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and

> > removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope

> > Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji

> > though his reading is more accurate!

> > > > // Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//

> > > >

> > > > Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with

> > hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the

> > husband's death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them

> > for their good readings.

> > > >

> > > > Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could

> > only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for

> > them because there are many other things in the 7H.

> > > >

> > > > Some comments if I may:

> > > > It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please

> > read Manoj ji's excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd

> > DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil

> > for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the

> > dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury's other sign virgo and also

> > the LL Saturn in 12H.

> > > >

> > > > The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital

> > which is fairly clear. The fibroids increased in Jupiter's antar and Mer PD.

> > Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.

> > > >

> > > > I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be

> > listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative

> > organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is

> > represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in

> > 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband

> > Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which

> > is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature

> > of event (for those who use them).

> > > >

> > > > I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is

> > any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

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Dear Utkal ji,There was only surgery on that date. The parents of the native are still alive.RegardsNeelam2009/10/29 utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Surgery

2. Parent's death, pls clarify if both father and mother died.

 

I m sorry if i m going wrong, another discussion which risks truth of our vedic roots is keeping me busy.

 

Regards,

Utkal

 

ancient_i,ndian_astrology , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> Which two events are you talking about?

> Sorry could not get you!

> Could you please be a little more specific?

> Thanks.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

> 2009/10/29 utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

>

> >

> >

> > Neelam Ji,

> >

> > Query is still pending with you.

> >

> > Rgds,

> > Utkal

> >

> >

> > <%40>,

 

> > " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Neelam Ji,

> > >

> > > Wish to know if both the events happend same day.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Utkal

> > > <%40>,

 

> > " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoj-ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have gone thru' your earlier replies. I must confess here

> > > > that I could not fully absorb your explanations due to my

> > > > limitations.

> > > >

> > > > My question was for others who have missed. Those who try and

> > > > misses are sometimes in a better position to understand limitations

> > > > of average students like me.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, surgery was clear in hindsight. Even I somehow clicked that

> > > > part. But " removal of organ " is not clear. Please note that removal

> > > > of organ is even applicable for tonsilitis / Kidney / Lungs (partial)

> > > > Liver (partial) etc. And how do I find that ?

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I have not used aspect from Ketu. It was there with Saturn

> > > > in Rashi chart. In navamsa, it moved to Taurus (or may be Aries,

> > > > depending on Ayanamsa used).

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Chakraborty

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > <%40>[

> > <%40>]

 

> > On Behalf Of Manoj Chandran

> > > > Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:48 AM

> > > > <%40>

 

> > > > Re: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chakraborty Ji,

> > > >

> > > > a) " removal of organ " and that too as " a part of treatment "

> > > > b) Very clear-cut indication of surgery. Although Mars-Ketu connection

> > > > has been discussed... was it so prominent ? (many of us missed

> > > > it)

> > > >

> > > > Surgery is very clear. In Rashi Mars aspects Venus. Mars is one of

> > those " special planets in the chart " . Specially malefic planets are those

> > > > a) In the 8H

> > > > b) Aspecting the 8H

> > > > c) 8th Lord

> > > > d) 22nd Drekkana Lord

> > > > e) 64th Navamsha Lord

> > > >

> > > > Mars is not only b) but also in the house of c) and d) and as Neelam Ji

> > so astutely pointed out, it also aspects LL Saturn.

> > > >

> > > > In transit Mars is transiting 7H.

> > > >

> > > > In Rashi, Ketu is aspecting Venus with a very close aspect, almost dead

> > ON. In transit also Ketu is aspecting Venus, from Venus's house. Any planet

> > aspecting another planet from that planet's house, is a powerful influence.

> > Same poweful influence also exists by Ketu on Saturn.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > c) The vim. dasha analysis.... almost everybody attempted it &

> > > > missed. Where are we going wrong ?

> > > >

> > > > I thought I clearly explained this but maybe I did not do a good enough

> > job. Where we all went wrong (Including me in my first answer) is picking

> > the wrong significations AND/OR in picking which Lordship will dominate.

> > > >

> > > > Me 5L/8L : Many picked 5L over 8L. Why? 8L is the MT sign of Me. So

> > should we not at the least Mix the two significations? I used another clue

> > from Iyer's technique where Leo is a Dagdha Rashi. Hence 5L being in a

> > " burnt " rashi gets burnt more than 8L. So I figured 8L might dominate.

> > Further with all the transit clues, negative event probably means more 8L

> > dominance.

> > > >

> > > > Ju: 2L/11L: Here we all are brainwashed to believe all great things

> > about the 11H and forget the fundamental Bhavath Bhavam principle that 11H

> > is 6th from the 6th. So it is equally capable of producing illness. It also

> > convenient to think about 11H in the same breath as 2H and hence assign

> > positive meanings to 2H instead of Marak.

> > > >

> > > > So in balance, Vim Dasha works. The Key was to figure whether this was

> > a positive or negative event. Once that is correctly figured out then the

> > different possible negative connotations come out.

> > > >

> > > > d) Does the Application of Varga-charts helps anyway in focussing ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Defenitely. I hope my long explanations atleast proved this. Especially

> > when we see Jupiter being in trines to both Lagna of Rashi and Lagna of

> > Navamsha and Vargottam on one hand and the same Jupiter being in the Amsha

> > of Me in Drekkana and Me being in the Amsha of Jupiter in the same Drekkana,

> > clearly indicates this period as one of danger healthwise. Project Ju back

> > to the Rashi from the Drekkana and you get back to Gemini in the Rashi

> > chart. This is ominous because it is still Mercury's sign. Similarly you can

> > do the exercise in each domain and obtain confluent results. I also

> > experiemented with Ashtamsha and got good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1) While looking at Transits, the natural signification of planets are

> > > >

> > > > more important. Many of us looked at the transit of Mars in 7H.

> > > > However, initially I took it as 3rd 7 10th lord only. When I looked

> > > > it as 'significator of 'Surgery', things became clearer.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, but both are important. Mercury's transit is mightily critical

> > because of his potent malefic nature (functionally).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2) While checking Dasha, it is important to look at the preceeding

> > > > AD too. Neelam-ji's explanation about fibroid in Rahu & Jup AD

> > > > is self-explanatory

> > > >

> > > > Yes, this was a big clue for me too. Rahu being in the 6H sets it up

> > with the help of Moon the 6L and then Jupiter brings it to frution. Dasha

> > sequence is critical.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > -Manoj

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@>

> > > > " <%40> "

> > < <%40>

 

> > >

> > > > Wed, October 28, 2009 9:29:38 PM

> > > > RE: Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelam-ji & forum,

> > > >

> > > > Before we move away from this quiz, I need to learn something.

> > > > This is important as the focus was more on Methodology than

> > > > on accuracy of the results.

> > > >

> > > > The quiz was about finding " removal of disease & organ " through

> > > > " surgery " in a particular area (7H here).

> > > >

> > > > The involvement of 7H was easiliy detectable. Almost everybody

> > > > detected it.

> > > >

> > > > But among many significations, how do we pick on

> > > >

> > > > a) " removal of organ " and that too as " a part of treatment "

> > > > b) Very clear-cut indication of surgery. Although Mars-Ketu connection

> > > > has been discussed... was it so prominent ? (many of us missed

> > > > it).

> > > > c) The vim. dasha analysis.... almost everybody attempted it &

> > > > missed. Where are we going wrong ?

> > > > d) Does the Application of Varga-charts helps anyway in focussing ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Observations/ learning that I picked up :

> > > >

> > > > 1) While looking at Transits, the natural signification of planets are

> > > > more important. Many of us looked at the transit of Mars in 7H.

> > > > However, initially I took it as 3rd 7 10th lord only. When I looked

> > > > it as 'significator of 'Surgery', things became clearer.

> > > > 2) While checking Dasha, it is important to look at the preceeding

> > > > AD too. Neelam-ji's explanation about fibroid in Rahu & Jup AD

> > > > is self-explanatory.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chakraborty

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology [ ] On Behalf Of neelam gupta

> > > > Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:54 PM

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Quiz-2 - RESULT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Finally the result :-)

> > > >

> > > > Female, 17 Aug 1962, 19:00 hrs, Delhi.

> > > > Event Date for Analysis: 27 August 2004

> > > >

> > > > The native underwent hysterectomy i.e. a surgical operation for removal

> > of uterus. She had active uterine fibroids which had the potential of

> > becoming malignant.

> > > >

> > > > I congratulate all the participants once again. The quiz was not about

> > winning or losing, but I must distribute some chocolates.: -)

> > > >

> > > > As everyone has already guessed, the first chocolate and my heartiest

> > congratulations to MANOJ JI, not only for reaching the right conclusion, but

> > also for his excellent and elaborate presentation of his thought process. It

> > was an excellent demonstration, I am sure all would agree with me. have not

> > been able to read how he got parent's death, so cannot comment right now.

> > Dwadshamsha chart should be read from Sun and Moon to check for parents. The

> > sickness part came to his mind a little later but it did come finally and

> > this made his whole exercise so meaningful.

> > > > //Hence my alternate conclusion to this is that the native had either a

> > heart attack or a stroke (Sun, Lagna, Mercury (nerves)) or even diagnosis of

> > a more terminal and serious disease. I am not a medical astrology enthusiast

> > hence unable to be more specific but this can easily be the " other " result

> > for the 8L/2L/11L scenario with 11L taking on the Role of the 6L. Rahu antar

> > sets it up for Guru (Maraka on Steroids) to bring it to fruition. Close

> > involvement of Ketu and Mars guarantees the need for surgery.//

> > > >

> > > > Chakraborty ji's correct reading came a little late after he was

> > influenced by other readings as he says. This was a total chakra from his

> > earlier stand. He came up with the exact event - surgical operation and

> > removal of uterus. I congratulate him for his accurate reading. I hope

> > Chakraborty ji will understand why I am giving more chocolate to Manoj ji

> > though his reading is more accurate!

> > > > // Surgical removal of cyst or Uterus.//

> > > >

> > > > Deepak Sharma ji and Suprakash ji were somewhat close with

> > hospitalisation part, but they were obviously wrong about an accident or the

> > husband's death. Dhananjaya ji also talked about Roga. I congratulate them

> > for their good readings.

> > > >

> > > > Interestingly, almost everyone connected the event to 7H, but could

> > only think of marriage and husband or death. So only half a chocolate for

> > them because there are many other things in the 7H.

> > > >

> > > > Some comments if I may:

> > > > It is quite understandable that the event may not be auspicious. Please

> > read Manoj ji's excellent reasoning on this. Briefly, Mercury as 8L, 22nd

> > DkNL in 7H aspected by 6L moon and 2L/11L retro Jupiter can only spell evil

> > for health in mer-jup-mer. Mercury is in 12H in navamsha and is the

> > dispositor of Mars who aspects 8H and mercury's other sign virgo and also

> > the LL Saturn in 12H.

> > > >

> > > > The disease had started in Mer-Rah and so did the rounds of hospital

> > which is fairly clear. The fibroids increased in Jupiter's antar and Mer PD.

> > Mars SD sent her down for surgery. Transits make it quite clear.

> > > >

> > > > I think once we identify the bhava, all its significations should be

> > listed and checked one by one with bhavesh and respective karaks. Generative

> > organs come strictly under 7H significations. For ladies uterus is

> > represented by 7H. Its karak Venus is debilitated in 8H of Mercury and 8L in

> > 7H causes harm to uterus. It is not bad for husband because karak of husband

> > Jupiter aspects both lord and the house. It is karak of uterus Venus which

> > is afflicted in D-1 and D-9. Varga charts may be used to confirm the nature

> > of event (for those who use them).

> > > >

> > > > I have tried my best to be fair and objective. I apologise if there is

> > any inadvertant error or misjudgment. Please feel free to bring it up.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

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