success in raja-yoga

November 2, 2009

Sir,

Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding the

combinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.

I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhist

system but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali]. Underwent

training for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100 days.

While most of the participants in my class started experiencing

vibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally impervious.

Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained person

& totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.

Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs, 19-Nov-1955,

Vijayawada].

Thanks & Regards,

Narayan

November 3, 2009

Dear KBV Narayanji,

Although not an expert but from my geneeral knowledge about yoga, I would like

you to do devotional service.If you are prone to have more function of the left

brain then you are more calculative and research oriented. To balance yourself

you may have to increase the activity of your right brain through devotional

activity, love , social work etc.

Please draw your inspirations from Ramayan and Mahabharat. Ramayan is said to be

sakar bhakti or Karma yoga and Mahabharat is said to be nirakar bhakti or Bhakti

yoga. They are comlementary.

these are only friendly tips.

Hari Malla

, " kbvnarayan " <kbvnarayan

wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding the

> combinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.

>

> I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhist

> system but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali]. Underwent

> training for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100 days.

> While most of the participants in my class started experiencing

> vibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally impervious.

>

> Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained person

> & totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.

>

> Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs, 19-Nov-1955,

> Vijayawada].

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Narayan

>

November 3, 2009

Dear Narayan Ji,

Shri Paramahansa Yogananda Ji had a wonderful comment for a very similar question. One of his disciples had practised Kriya Yoga for several years and he came to him with a similar question. His anwer was "The Road to the Divine is not a Circus. Don't measure your success in Meditation with Noises, and light flashes and hearing Voices in in your head. Measure it with the peace, tranquility and the Divine Love that Pours in to your heart. When you start radiating that Love, that Kindness around, your meditation is deepening.".

Regards,

-Manoj

kbvnarayan <kbvnarayan Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 2:31:24 AM success in raja-yoga

Sir,Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding thecombinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhistsystem but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali]. Underwenttraining for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100 days.While most of the participants in my class started experiencingvibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally impervious.Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained person & totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs, 19-Nov-1955,Vijayawada].Thanks & Regards,Narayan

November 4, 2009

Thank you very much, Sir.

I will surely try to get a guru upadesam of the Ganesh mantra and

recite.

Thanks & Regards,

Narayan

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

> Do you recognize you and your thoughts are different from each other,

Are you able to disassociate yourself from your likings and feelings,

watch it carefuly, understanding fabric of mind is must, once you are

able to do it, blockages to kundalini starts getting removed. Invoke

Lord ganesha's blessings, use a ganesha mantra with 'hum' and 'phat'.

>

> Utkal.

>

> , " kbvnarayan "

kbvnarayan@ wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding the

> > combinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.

> >

> > I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhist

> > system but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali].

Underwent

> > training for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100

days.

> > While most of the participants in my class started experiencing

> > vibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally

impervious.

> >

> > Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained

person

> > & totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.

> >

> > Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs,

19-Nov-1955,

> > Vijayawada].

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Narayan

> >

>

November 4, 2009

Thanks for the advice, Sir.

I can understand the importance of reading Ramayan. I made a beginning

last month and with continue with the reinforcement of confidence I got

from your message.

Apart from the urge to continue with raja-yoga, I am also curious [as an

amateur in the subject] of the astrological factors that aid / hinder a

person's progress in yoga.

Could it be based on the 5th house - connected to the intellect & purva

punya OR could it be the 8th house related to the occult?

Thanks & Regards,

Narayan

, " hari " <harimalla

wrote:

>

> Dear KBV Narayanji,

> Although not an expert but from my geneeral knowledge about yoga, I

would like you to do devotional service.If you are prone to have more

function of the left brain then you are more calculative and research

oriented. To balance yourself you may have to increase the activity of

your right brain through devotional activity, love , social work etc.

> Please draw your inspirations from Ramayan and Mahabharat. Ramayan is

said to be sakar bhakti or Karma yoga and Mahabharat is said to be

nirakar bhakti or Bhakti yoga. They are comlementary.

> these are only friendly tips.

> Hari Malla

> , " kbvnarayan "

kbvnarayan@ wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding the

> > combinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.

> >

> > I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhist

> > system but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali].

Underwent

> > training for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100

days.

> > While most of the participants in my class started experiencing

> > vibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally

impervious.

> >

> > Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained

person

> > & totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.

> >

> > Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs,

19-Nov-1955,

> > Vijayawada].

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Narayan

> >

>

November 4, 2009

Thank you, Sir.

That's a very impressive & convincing way of putting it. Yes, I now

realize that we should not be looking for some thing like light. & .sound

effect.

I will re-start the practice, now looking more for peace & tranquility -

which I did not get on earlier attempts, especially with the mind

occupied in its effort to look for theatricals.

Sir, I am also curious [as a student of astrology] of the planetary

combinations that cause success / failure in yogic efforts. Shall be

grateful for any light on that aspect.

Thanks & Regards,

Narayan

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Narayan Ji,

>

> Shri Paramahansa Yogananda Ji had a wonderful comment for a very

similar question. One of his disciples had practised Kriya Yoga for

several years and he came to him with a similar question. His anwer was

" The Road to the Divine is not a Circus. Don't measure your success in

Meditation with Noises, and light flashes and hearing Voices in in your

head. Measure it with the peace, tranquility and the Divine Love that

Pours in to your heart. When you start radiating that Love, that

Kindness around, your meditation is deepening. " .

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

> ________________________________

> kbvnarayan kbvnarayan

>

> Mon, November 2, 2009 2:31:24 AM

> success in raja-yoga

>

> Sir,

>

> Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding the

> combinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.

>

> I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhist

> system but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali]. Underwent

> training for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100

days.

> While most of the participants in my class started experiencing

> vibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally impervious.

>

> Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained

person

> & totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.

>

> Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs,

19-Nov-1955,

> Vijayawada].

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Narayan

>

November 4, 2009

Dear Manoj ji,great and nice post.Congrats.Love and regards,gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Narayan Ji,> > Shri Paramahansa Yogananda Ji had a wonderful comment for a very similar question. One of his disciples had practised Kriya Yoga for several years and he came to him with a similar question. His anwer was "The Road to the Divine is not a Circus. Don't measure your success in Meditation with Noises, and light flashes and hearing Voices in in your head. Measure it with the peace, tranquility and the Divine Love that Pours in to your heart. When you start radiating that Love, that Kindness around, your meditation is deepening.". > > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> kbvnarayan kbvnarayan > Mon, November 2, 2009 2:31:24 AM> success in raja-yoga> > > Sir,> > Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding the> combinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.> > I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhist> system but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali]. Underwent> training for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100 days.> While most of the participants in my class started experiencing> vibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally impervious.> > Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained person> & totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.> > Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs, 19-Nov-1955,> Vijayawada].> > Thanks & Regards,> Narayan>

November 4, 2009

Dear Narayan, 5th house has nothing to do with your problems. Although it depicts scholastic abilities we have to see whether the right dasha is running or not. Further, for knowing about planetary combinations for success and failure in yogic abilities, please refer to your Vimsamsa (D-20) and analyse it with respect to 9H of your Navamsa.

best wishes, chetan anishOn Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM, kbvnarayan <kbvnarayan wrote:

Thank you, Sir.

That's a very impressive & convincing way of putting it. Yes, I now

realize that we should not be looking for some thing like light. & .sound

effect.

I will re-start the practice, now looking more for peace & tranquility -

which I did not get on earlier attempts, especially with the mind

occupied in its effort to look for theatricals.

Sir, I am also curious [as a student of astrology] of the planetary

combinations that cause success / failure in yogic efforts. Shall be

grateful for any light on that aspect.

Thanks & Regards,

Narayan

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Narayan Ji,

>

> Shri Paramahansa Yogananda Ji had a wonderful comment for a very

similar question. One of his disciples had practised Kriya Yoga for

several years and he came to him with a similar question. His anwer was

" The Road to the Divine is not a Circus. Don't measure your success in

Meditation with Noises, and light flashes and hearing Voices in in your

head. Measure it with the peace, tranquility and the Divine Love that

Pours in to your heart. When you start radiating that Love, that

Kindness around, your meditation is deepening. " .

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

> ________________________________

> kbvnarayan kbvnarayan

>

> Mon, November 2, 2009 2:31:24 AM

> success in raja-yoga

>

> Sir,

>

> Could the learned members of the group here advise me regarding the

> combinations required for success in the practice of raja yoga.

>

> I tried practicing vipassyana [primarily attributed to the Buddhist

> system but broadly a variant of the raja yoga of Patanjali]. Underwent

> training for about 10 days and there after practiced for about 100

days.

> While most of the participants in my class started experiencing

> vibrations & sensations in their body - I had been totally impervious.

>

> Many times I also find that I have become a totally left-brained

person

> & totally lost the functionality of the right-brain.

>

> Some thing not right with my 5th house ??? [born 22:55 hrs,

19-Nov-1955,

> Vijayawada].

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Narayan

>

November 4, 2009

I am sorry to poke in and be rude here. It was good to see a nice post on this thread at last, from Manoj ji. I would not even be tempted to this outburst otherwise. Yoga is thing of lives, of a whole evolution. Its effects are not for days or months. The whole being should evolve, and properly sought it will be driven by the divine Himself. The whole talk of "results" in weeks and months is funny to say the least. It reminds me of my childhood when we all used to do a few pushups every day and start measuring muscles. It also reminds of the joke we often play in our house - like a guy who chants a mantra thousand times and checks whether his face has gone brighter. Consciousness of deeper layers should descend into the being, and its effect on the outer layers is only

an apparent change indicating the deeper evolution. One should not look for symptoms and measure - how deep has one gone into his being, how much has one known his own self, how much did he win his mind, how many yards beyond the intellect has one gone, how much did he allow the deeper layers to guide his life and actions, is what matters. Meditation and breathing classes not withstanding, if the evolution of hundreds of thousands of lives can be put to an end with such sessions then we would be seeing liberated beings all around, instead of such rotten selfishness, ego, sin, curse, calamity everywhere. One out of a thousand seek really, to rid himself from these, without the temptation to derive the little moments of apparent joy in the midst of this rot. And one out of hundred such seekers really drives himself to do that. A few of them succeed, to different levels. People with all their selfish pujas and sadhanas hardly get themselves

to grow beyond their skin, beyond their petty ego. One might be seeing hundreds of sadhakas around, but hardly does one find a handful of them really growing beyond their skin, really loving God and the world created by Him. Hardly do you find someone weeping about how people are destroying themselves, instead of weeping why he lost a lakh in shares. Most of them you find to be pretending to love Him to appease Him and cover for their sins, to still give them all the pleasures of life inspite of their adharma. Where is yoga, when Isvara pranidhana is not there? Where is samadhi when yama is not there? Where is Ananda when there is swartha? Few are the blessed ones whose hearts do not suffer from the trivialities of their lives, and are ripe for the joy. After all as long as the struggle for skin is there the joy of something beyond skin cannot be there. Yoga is not a practice in itself, it is for elevating mind from its skin-binding.

Finally apologies again, for the rant. Shankar

November 4, 2009

Dear Narayan ji,your 9thL of Guru/God etc in 2nd(thought/speach) and the dispositor is in 5thH.of sadhana.Your 5thL in 4th in an airy H with mer karaka for 10th and hence you practice pranayama kind of sadhana with the breath.I also observed in many charts that when there are no planets in between jup,ven,mo and ketu in the zodiac (birth-chart) that person will be spiritual.There is a good exch bet 4th and 5th lords as well in your chart. AK with GK in 4th may give hicups like the one you experience but PK in 5th in a fixed sign while its dispositor is withAK in 4th is good for sadhana.In vimsamsa AK is asp by jup mutually is also good for spiritual practices.All the best,God bless,gopi.

November 4, 2009

Dear Narayanji,You have undergone Vipassana training for ten days. That is good but you have to keep in mind that the ten day course is just the beginning course and there are advanced courses in Vipassana too. In the ten day course they teach you to remain silent and meditate and observe the effects of past karma on the body ie. for one se type of sensation only. Please do not forget that there are five senses. If you want to pursue advanced courses of Vipassana that is open to you. Further the ten day practice is just an initaial training and lot of practice is required to achive the desired results. May be even more than one lifetime. t Vipassana is also a good and effective meditation technique but that is mainly suitable for the monks as you must have noticed that yourself. Goenkaji is popularising it for the last few decades. Before

the twentieth century no layman was trained in formal Vipassana course.Whichever course you take you have to have patience. Shri Aurobindo was told by his guru Shri Lele to meditate for three days and night in complete isolation and reject all thoughts as they come to mind as outside thoughts and he achieved complete control after three days of practice in isolation. You have several techniques but my suggestion will be that in any technique have patience and you will yourself know your progress by whatYoganandaji said Best wishes,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Mon, 11/2/09, kbvnarayan <kbvnarayan wrote:kbvnarayan <kbvnarayan success in raja-yoga Date:

Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:31 AM