Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage

November 9, 2009

ï»¿Dear Vandana-ji, Thanks again. BTW, the role of Ketu and marriage was not known to me. Is there any other connections between planets & importanthappenings as above ? regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of Vandna MisraMonday, November 09, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage yes,chakrabortyji,it is ketu;s dispositor and 7 from it plus ketu itself and 7 from it is determining factor in deciding exact year of marriage.Regards.Vandana Mishra--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 (AT) iocl (DOT) co.in> wrote:Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 (AT) iocl (DOT) co.in>RE: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage"' '" Monday, November 9, 2009, 6:10 AM ï»¿ Dear Vandana-ji, I am trying to understand the system. From Ketu's dispositor, counting to be started.From this system, marriage age will come in multipleof 12 years only. Marriage may also come from 7th of Ketu's dispositor.So, marriage may come in 19/31/38years and so on. If marraige comes from Ketu, then year of marriagewill depend on distance between Ketu & it's dispositor Similarly for 7th from Ketu. So, looking at the probability of early/delayed/ very delayedmarriage, one has to pick up a suitable year. Thanks for this gem of technique. Regards Chakraborty PS..... I do wonder why Ketu is deciding marriage. ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of vijay.goelMonday, November 09, 2009 11:20 AMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage Dear Vandana Ji,The use of ketu dispositer as your have explained is totally new to me.Thankyou for sharing this info, and regards to your generous teachers.Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_ 91 wrote:>> Respected Bhaskarji,> while judging a chart few things which we keep in mind is Desh, kal ,and patra.then we try to findout wheather the chart is of early marriage,or delay marriage. i don't think it isÃ‚ very difficult to find out.> Now you can apply the rules,it goes like that,check ketu's dispositor in the chart,in your chart it is saturn placed in sixth houseÃ‚ ,note the saturn and seventh from it,we have to start counting from saturn ,to complete the circle when we reachÃ‚ saturn again 12 years completed.since twelve years is not the age of getting married we have to move further next time when we reached saturn it would be 24 years, crucial age to get married.in your caseÃ‚ I don't see much delay in your marriage so i decided thatÃ‚ 24Ã‚ has to beÃ‚ expected age of getting married.note that it is not just saturnÃ‚ and 7 from it but also,,ketu and 7 from it which can decide the exact age.for instance if it would have been delayed marriage I would have suggested 30Ã‚ {7 from saturn}Ã‚ or 31{7 from ketu}Ã‚ age for marriage.> while narrowing down the age group it is essential to note dasha pattern running at that time plus -minus six months will do as we all know it is dasha and transits which fructify the events.> Kindly don't ask me the source of this rule as these tested parameters are theÃ‚ nector poured by ourÃ‚ teachers who areÃ‚ devoting their lives in the devine service of astrology and selflessly distributing among their pupils.sharing the knowledge is my way of showing gratuitude towards them.> Ã‚ > Regards.> Vandana Mishra> Ã‚ > - On Sun, 11/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:41 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > Thank You for your inputs. My Date of marriage is 9th May 1984. Please> share the other method please. I am like a warrior who likes to learn> use of various weapons for warfare, and always curious to learn so. The> marriage timing part is very essential to be successful in field of> astrology. If one can do this then it does not take long for him to> become respected and well known in his circles. I consider that in fact> every astrologer must consider himself as an astrologer only if he is> able to overcome this Query in the beginning of his professional Career.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra> <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskarji,> > In my view the age 24,or 25 year 1985 is crucial forÃƒâ€š yourÃƒâ€š > marriage.this time i have neither checked dasha nor transits.kindly> confirm if it is correct i can further go ahead and shared the forum> with another tool ofÃƒâ€š predicting correct year of marriage.> > Regards.> > Vandana Mishra> >> > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs> on Timing marriage> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:30 AM> >> >> > Ãƒâ€š> >> >> >> >> > Dear Vandana ji,> > Thanks.> > I understand that the double transit of these slow moving planets> triggers the marriage.> > To put in straight sentences, both Jupiter and Saturn in transit> should touch either of these-> > Ãƒâ€š> > From Lagna (Jupiter)> > Lagna Lord and 7th Lord or> > Lagna and 7th Lord or> > Lagna and 7th House or> > Lagna Lord and 7th house.> > Ãƒâ€š> > Repeat from Lagna (Saturn)> > Ãƒâ€š> > Repeat above 8 points from Moon Lagna.> > Ãƒâ€š> > I feel that aboveÃƒâ€š points being touched by Jupiter or Saturn, could> happen at several> > times in a persons Life, and this could be too confusing and leave one> with a headache> > by the time he finishes studying, noting and writing down above> transits on a piece of> > paper. Or does it not happen several times ? I am not sure. We will> have to check> > this on a number of Horoscopes to understand.> > Ãƒâ€š> > What is the easiest way to go through above process ?> > from where to begin ?> > How should one start checking ?> > Ãƒâ€š> > The second rule mentioned, about Sodya Pinda I have not tried, so> cannot comment. Need someone to help me here.> > Ãƒâ€š> > Shall await the illustrations, and thanks once again to take pains for> replying.Ãƒâ€š> > Ãƒâ€š> > You can also take my own chart if you wish, to illustrate.> > DOB 28th June 1961. 10.15amÃƒâ€š Eluru 16.45N 81.09E> > Ãƒâ€š> > regards/Bhaskar.Ãƒâ€š> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra> <vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Bhaskarji,> > > Yes,it is astrological truth that for fructification of any events> especially marriage double transit of jupiter and sat ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š is very> important.right now i am presenting only rules,but later i will> definitely explain with few examples.for sat its connection with 7h> 7l,either from lagna or moon sign is important in determining the year> of marriage of course dasha must promised.> > > since jupiter transits for 13 months it helps in narrow down the> date of marriage.its connection with 7h,7l further confirm nearest dates> of months.mars manglya karaka making any connection with marriage> related houses decides months.> > > so far BAV of venus goes there is one rule,if we multiply the> shodhya pind of venus by the bindus in 7 from venus,divide by 27 and> count the remainder from aswani.when jupiter passes over this nak,or its> trines marriage may takes place.> > > I Will definetely explain with example in my next mail.> > > Regards.> > > Vandana Mishra> > >> > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Looking for Practical inputs on> Timing marriage> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:25 AM> > >> > >> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > Dear Friends,> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > There are many dictums which teach us how to determine the timing of> > > marriage. But most of them are too confusing and require a good> number> > > of critical planets in the chart, to be touched in transits. The end> results is> > > that a astrologer lands up with several dates of marriage which does> not> > > conclusively tell actually when the marriage will really take place.> If> > > we give several dates of marriage to a native, he will either throw> > > us out of his house, or will stop visiting our house.> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > 1)Saturn transit (As he is Kaal the time keeper), Jupiter transit> > > (For blessings) and Mars transit (For Mangalya) are again the> indicators> > > of marriage. How do we use these transits effectively ?ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > 2) Sodhya Pinda of Venus, BAV of Venus, and determination of the> > > right point, on which Jupiter transits, will determine Nakshatra> over> > > which Jupiter transits will again determine timing of marriage .How> > > to do this ?> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > Can anybody explain this in simple language without too much theory> > > or presenting shlokas, but illustrate with 2 examples, how to do> > > this ?> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > Please do not bring inÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š Divisional charts, except maybe for> Navamsha,> > > and do not bring in KP too.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. 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November 9, 2009

ï»¿Dear Sir, If I remember correctly, Ash-ji (of KAS Sageasita forum, also a member of our AIA group) has done some statistical analysis about marriage androle of different MD/AD. What I remember, 90% correlation was not achieved by any MD/AD lord. I will search the same when I get some time. regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of Manoj KumarMonday, November 09, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage Over 90% of marriages shall take place in dasha of planets connected with Lagna/7th house of birth chart and navamsha. regards, Moujineelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 1:40:19 PMRe: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage Dear Gopu ji,If Rahu is karaka for marriage (some call him Rahu-Byahu in the northern Hindi belt), then how can one escape Ketu when he gets his seat in 7th from Rahu. If not Ketu, who else!But on a serious note, let us test this theory practically on some charts and ask Vandana ji to demonstrate it for us.RegardsNeelam2009/11/9 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > Dear Chakraborty ji and vandana jiHA,HA that's why astrology is wonderful super science.Sanivad Rahu;Kujavad ketu it is said.May be it has got something to do with it.Kuja is the L/L & 8L of natural zodiac.8th is 2nd(family) from 7th.May be Vandana ji can clarify..... ..Regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vandana-ji, > > I am trying to understand the system. > > From Ketu's dispositor, counting to be started. > From this system, marriage age will come in multiple > of 12 years only. > > Marriage may also come from 7th of Ketu's dispositor. > So, marriage may come in 19/31/38years and so on. > > If marraige comes from Ketu, then year of marriage > will depend on distance between Ketu & it's dispositor > > Similarly for 7th from Ketu. > > So, looking at the probability of early/delayed/ very delayed > marriage, one has to pick up a suitable year. > > Thanks for this gem of technique. > > > > Regards > > Chakraborty > > PS..... I do wonder why Ketu is deciding marriage. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of vijay.goel > Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 AM > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage > > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > The use of ketu dispositer as your have explained is totally new to me. > > Thankyou for sharing this info, and regards to your generous teachers. > > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>, Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > while judging a chart few things which we keep in mind is Desh, kal ,and patra.then we try to findout wheather the chart is of early marriage,or delay marriage. i don't think it isÃƒâ€š very difficult to find out. > > Now you can apply the rules,it goes like that,check ketu's dispositor in the chart,in your chart it is saturn placed in sixth houseÃƒâ€š ,note the saturn and seventh from it,we have to start counting from saturn ,to complete the circle when we reachÃƒâ€š saturn again 12 years completed.since twelve years is not the age of getting married we have to move further next time when we reached saturn it would be 24 years, crucial age to get married.in your caseÃƒâ€š I don't see much delay in your marriage so i decided thatÃƒâ€š 24Ãƒâ€š has to beÃƒâ€š expected age of getting married.note that it is not just saturnÃƒâ€š and 7 from it but also,,ketu and 7 from it which can decide the exact age.for instance if it would have been delayed marriage I would have suggested 30Ãƒâ€š {7 from saturn}Ãƒâ€š or 31{7 from ketu}Ãƒâ€š age for marriage. > > while narrowing down the age group it is essential to note dasha pattern running at that time plus -minus six months will do as we all know it is dasha and transits which fructify the events. > > Kindly don't ask me the source of this rule as these tested parameters are theÃƒâ€š nector poured by ourÃƒâ€š teachers who areÃƒâ€š devoting their lives in the devine service of astrology and selflessly distributing among their pupils.sharing the knowledge is my way of showing gratuitude towards them. > > Ãƒâ€š > > Regards. > > Vandana Mishra > > Ãƒâ€š > > - On Sun, 11/8/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com> > > Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:41 AM > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji, > > > > Thank You for your inputs. My Date of marriage is 9th May 1984. Please > > share the other method please. I am like a warrior who likes to learn > > use of various weapons for warfare, and always curious to learn so. The > > marriage timing part is very essential to be successful in field of > > astrology. If one can do this then it does not take long for him to > > become respected and well known in his circles. I consider that in fact > > every astrologer must consider himself as an astrologer only if he is > > able to overcome this Query in the beginning of his professional Career. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > In my view the age 24,or 25 year 1985 is crucial forÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ yourÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > marriage.this time i have neither checked dasha nor transits.kindly > > confirm if it is correct i can further go ahead and shared the forum > > with another tool ofÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ predicting correct year of marriage. > > > Regards. > > > Vandana Mishra > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs > > on Timing marriage > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:30 AM > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji, > > > Thanks. > > > I understand that the double transit of these slow moving planets > > triggers the marriage. > > > To put in straight sentences, both Jupiter and Saturn in transit > > should touch either of these- > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > From Lagna (Jupiter) > > > Lagna Lord and 7th Lord or > > > Lagna and 7th Lord or > > > Lagna and 7th House or > > > Lagna Lord and 7th house. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > Repeat from Lagna (Saturn) > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > Repeat above 8 points from Moon Lagna. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > I feel that aboveÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ points being touched by Jupiter or Saturn, could > > happen at several > > > times in a persons Life, and this could be too confusing and leave one > > with a headache > > > by the time he finishes studying, noting and writing down above > > transits on a piece of > > > paper. Or does it not happen several times ? I am not sure. We will > > have to check > > > this on a number of Horoscopes to understand. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > What is the easiest way to go through above process ? > > > from where to begin ? > > > How should one start checking ? > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > The second rule mentioned, about Sodya Pinda I have not tried, so > > cannot comment. Need someone to help me here. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > Shall await the illustrations, and thanks once again to take pains for > > replying.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > You can also take my own chart if you wish, to illustrate. > > > DOB 28th June 1961. 10.15amÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ Eluru 16.45N 81.09E > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > regards/Bhaskar.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > Yes,it is astrological truth that for fructification of any events > > especially marriage double transit of jupiter and sat ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ is very > > important.right now i am presenting only rules,but later i will > > definitely explain with few examples.for sat its connection with 7h > > 7l,either from lagna or moon sign is important in determining the year > > of marriage of course dasha must promised. > > > > since jupiter transits for 13 months it helps in narrow down the > > date of marriage.its connection with 7h,7l further confirm nearest dates > > of months.mars manglya karaka making any connection with marriage > > related houses decides months. > > > > so far BAV of venus goes there is one rule,if we multiply the > > shodhya pind of venus by the bindus in 7 from venus,divide by 27 and > > count the remainder from aswani.when jupiter passes over this nak,or its > > trines marriage may takes place. > > > > I Will definetely explain with example in my next mail. > > > > Regards. > > > > Vandana Mishra > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Looking for Practical inputs on > > Timing marriage > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > There are many dictums which teach us how to determine the timing of > > > > marriage. But most of them are too confusing and require a good > > number > > > > of critical planets in the chart, to be touched in transits. The end > > results is > > > > that a astrologer lands up with several dates of marriage which does > > not > > > > conclusively tell actually when the marriage will really take place. > > If > > > > we give several dates of marriage to a native, he will either throw > > > > us out of his house, or will stop visiting our house. > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > 1)Saturn transit (As he is Kaal the time keeper), Jupiter transit > > > > (For blessings) and Mars transit (For Mangalya) are again the > > indicators > > > > of marriage. How do we use these transits effectively ?ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > 2) Sodhya Pinda of Venus, BAV of Venus, and determination of the > > > > right point, on which Jupiter transits, will determine Nakshatra > > over > > > > which Jupiter transits will again determine timing of marriage .How > > > > to do this ? > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > Can anybody explain this in simple language without too much theory > > > > or presenting shlokas, but illustrate with 2 examples, how to do > > > > this ? > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > Please do not bring inÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ Divisional charts, except maybe for > > Navamsha, > > > > and do not bring in KP too.ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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November 9, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,

I'm delighted to learn your intimidating way of welcoming a student of

jyotish. It looks like that this forum is for " Experts Only " --I wish

it was marked so. If it is, I'll retract my membership right away. As

far as your personal way of welcoming someone is concerned, I'd not do

that to someone who's entering my field of expertise. I thought I'd

contribute to your post, but looks like I should stay away. I do NOT

consider myself an astrologer and do not practice it professionally

and neither will I in the future--I am merely interested in learning

jyotish and understanding my own self for for my family members!

What I posted, is from the notes I have taken by referring to various

sources. I started learning vedic astrology on my own because I was

tired of so-called astrologers who consider themselves 'experts' who

didn't give good advices for my own marriage.

Now, below are my answers to your questions:

1. To describe this, I would take my own chart: Gemini Lagna. 4H

(Virgo):Budh,Surya,Shani,Guru. Currently running Rahu MD, which ends

19/11/09. Shani is transiting over Shani at present in Kanya. During

Guru's MD, 7H will get activated and may lead to Marriage--That too

when Sani crosses natal Jupiter in 6H at 22 degrees. If marriage

doesn't occur at that time, there are chances when Guru enters Mesha

in 2011 which will aspect 7H during Guru's MD.

2. Definition of people who want to get married the most: One who

can't think of being a celibate or living life along--More like the

opposite of Pravajya Yoga. I also have Sanyasa Yoga so I am not very

anxious to get married. Hope that definition is enough.

3. " This was already talked about in the 8 points mentioned in

previous mails. This is a very basic tool. And not that you are the

first to notice this ? No discovery here. "

-- Didn't check that as couple of emails went to Spam box.

4. Certain dashas and bhuktis do not go well for a native based upon

the planets positioned in the lagna kundli of the native. For example,

I have Rahu+Mars in Cancer in 2H. I have had many good proposals in

the last 1 year, but there was always something that lacked in most of

them. I was suggested by someone that due to Rahu MD, I will get

proposals that will always lack something, but it may improve when

Guru MD starts. So, I am waiting to experience that myself. I have

many family members who have gotten married during Guru,Sukra and Rahu

MD's and I read somewhere about them to confirm it. So, I thought it

must be true.

5. Yes, I know that I have posted Muhurta for marriage, but I thought

that some student reading this post, might also find it of use.

6. I didn't want to generalize that just because Rahu is malefic, the

dasha is malefic and likewise for Guru. I should have clarified on

that in my first post.

I hope you have enjoyed " ajeeb baatein of ajeeb log. " At least I was

able to make you laugh.

Best regards,

Basant

November 9, 2009

Dear Basant Sahab,

Your mail was addressed to " Gurujans " let me again remind you. It was

not the narration of a student but clearly an attempt to teach or

establish dictums or " Teach " , which sends wrong signals to the actual

students and new comers here which cannot provide no learning instead

prove harmful to any newcomer who will begin applying those rules

immediately to his own chart, and family charts and suffer in

consequence. Teaching is not a wrong action and we are always ready to

learn but not just anything which does not make sense.

I was not aware that you are a new comer or entering my field of

expertise and neither was in the act of welcoming you. You wrote as if

you intended to teach the Gurujans here so I could never have guessed

that you are a newcomer except after going through the contents of your

whole mail.Since I am not the owner of the Forum, it does not seem right

about you mentioning of what you intend to do about your membership.

You are tired of so called Expert astrologers in the same way are we

tired of so called newcomers who start teaching without first learning

themselves.

I am not at all free to study your chart, and your comments on same and

reply because they still do not make sense to me I am sorry about that.

Your mail did not make me laugh but just made me smile . Thanks for

same.

I have nothing against You. Please continue teaching to those who wish

to learn from You. My part is over for the time being in your Life.

Best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, Bill G <pythod

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> I'm delighted to learn your intimidating way of welcoming a student of

> jyotish. It looks like that this forum is for " Experts Only " --I wish

> it was marked so. If it is, I'll retract my membership right away. As

> far as your personal way of welcoming someone is concerned, I'd not do

> that to someone who's entering my field of expertise. I thought I'd

> contribute to your post, but looks like I should stay away. I do NOT

> consider myself an astrologer and do not practice it professionally

> and neither will I in the future--I am merely interested in learning

> jyotish and understanding my own self for for my family members!

>

> What I posted, is from the notes I have taken by referring to various

> sources. I started learning vedic astrology on my own because I was

> tired of so-called astrologers who consider themselves 'experts' who

> didn't give good advices for my own marriage.

>

> Now, below are my answers to your questions:

>

> 1. To describe this, I would take my own chart: Gemini Lagna. 4H

> (Virgo):Budh,Surya,Shani,Guru. Currently running Rahu MD, which ends

> 19/11/09. Shani is transiting over Shani at present in Kanya. During

> Guru's MD, 7H will get activated and may lead to Marriage--That too

> when Sani crosses natal Jupiter in 6H at 22 degrees. If marriage

> doesn't occur at that time, there are chances when Guru enters Mesha

> in 2011 which will aspect 7H during Guru's MD.

>

> 2. Definition of people who want to get married the most: One who

> can't think of being a celibate or living life along--More like the

> opposite of Pravajya Yoga. I also have Sanyasa Yoga so I am not very

> anxious to get married. Hope that definition is enough.

>

> 3. " This was already talked about in the 8 points mentioned in

> previous mails. This is a very basic tool. And not that you are the

> first to notice this ? No discovery here. "

> -- Didn't check that as couple of emails went to Spam box.

>

> 4. Certain dashas and bhuktis do not go well for a native based upon

> the planets positioned in the lagna kundli of the native. For example,

> I have Rahu+Mars in Cancer in 2H. I have had many good proposals in

> the last 1 year, but there was always something that lacked in most of

> them. I was suggested by someone that due to Rahu MD, I will get

> proposals that will always lack something, but it may improve when

> Guru MD starts. So, I am waiting to experience that myself. I have

> many family members who have gotten married during Guru,Sukra and Rahu

> MD's and I read somewhere about them to confirm it. So, I thought it

> must be true.

>

> 5. Yes, I know that I have posted Muhurta for marriage, but I thought

> that some student reading this post, might also find it of use.

>

> 6. I didn't want to generalize that just because Rahu is malefic, the

> dasha is malefic and likewise for Guru. I should have clarified on

> that in my first post.

>

> I hope you have enjoyed " ajeeb baatein of ajeeb log. " At least I was

> able to make you laugh.

>

> Best regards,

> Basant

>

November 9, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,

I am not all intending to teach anybody. Please excuse me for my weak

hindi as every new comer is addressing everyone as Gurujans, so I

wrote that way. I was trying to learn, and not make a smart-ass

comment to teach anyone. I would rather open up a school of astrology

if I wanted to teach, not to 'experts' like you--I'd be wasting my

time and in return I would get nothing but being humiliated.

I never asked you or anyone to study my chart. Did I? I have given you

an example to answer your question and I couldn't find any other chart

other than myself to answer it. And trust me, I'd rather pay someone

to read my chart than getting a free advise. Free advices are dime a

dozen. Being a professional, as I expect someone to respect my time,

and I do the same in return. If I wanted you to read my chart, I'd

personally come to Mumbai, take your appointment, and have you read

the chart (if you permit) and pay and thank you for reading my

chart--not discuss my chart openly in a public forum. And, thanks for

considering me a free-loader.

Yes, What I do with my membership is up to my discretion, and I said

that because I do not want to be a part of a group where I am

humiliated and neither do I write in a way to humiliate someone. You

will also notice that I have answered your questions, although the

answers may be wrong according to you, but at least I tried my best

and not run away remaining silent like others.

I'm very sorry if you or other members felt insulted, but I never

intended to " teach " any one from bottom of my heart, seriously!

Whether you want to talk to me or not, is upto you... I can't help it!

My Best Wishes to everyone,

Basant

[Moderator's Note: Let us move on with astrology now. There is no personal

grudge against anyone and Basant ji should not feel humiliated at all. We

welcome him to the group and look forward to his valuable knowledge sharing from

him.]

November 9, 2009

Respected Chakrabortyji,

counting has to be start from ketu's dispositor. in your case we will start the counting from venus.since it is placed in lagna,keep finger on venus it is our 1 year ,then 2h willbe 2year and so on so forth.in your chart marriage took place on 22 year .if you continue to count you will see that 22 year will fall in 10 h,one house before where ketu is placed. As i said plus minus six months will do as dasha and trasits are the ultimate deciding factor. now the rules are-

1}counting starts from ketu's dispositor,whereever it is placed.

2}note the rahu ketu axis those years are crucial. 3}also note the asc and 7h in deciding the year of marriage that axis will again play an imporant role.so in nutshell we have three axis 1-ketu's dispositor and 7 from it ,2-rah-ketu axis,3-lagna -7 h axis.

I hope i have made some sense.

Regards.

Vandana Mishra--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2RE: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage"' '" Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:33 AM

ï»¿ Dear Neelam-ji,

I have tried one chart...of my Better half.

She has Ketu in Taurus in 11th house. The dispositor venus is in 1st

house Cancer (but with parivartan with moon in Tula).

Marriage took place on 22nd year (21 year + 350 days). It appears that

the counting does not hold good exactly...more of a rough estimate.

But if we cound from the dispositor to Ketu....it can be a close match. Or

may be from Ascendant to Ketu...

regards

Chakraborty

ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of neelam guptaMonday, November 09, 2009 1:40 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage

Dear Gopu ji,If Rahu is karaka for marriage (some call him Rahu-Byahu in the northern Hindi belt), then how can one escape Ketu when he gets his seat in 7th from Rahu. If not Ketu, who else!But on a serious note, let us test this theory practically on some charts and ask Vandana ji to demonstrate it for us.RegardsNeelam

2009/11/9 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >

Dear Chakraborty ji and vandana jiHA,HA that's why astrology is wonderful super science.Sanivad Rahu;Kujavad ketu it is said.May be it has got something to do with it.Kuja is the L/L & 8L of natural zodiac.8th is 2nd(family) from 7th.May be Vandana ji can clarify..... ..Regards,gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vandana-ji, > > I am trying to understand the system. > > From Ketu's dispositor, counting to be started. > From this system, marriage age will come in multiple > of 12 years only. > > Marriage may also come from 7th of Ketu's dispositor. > So, marriage may come in 19/31/38years and so on. > > If marraige comes from Ketu, then year of marriage > will depend on distance between Ketu & it's dispositor > > Similarly for 7th from Ketu. > > So, looking at the probability of early/delayed/ very delayed > marriage, one

has to pick up a suitable year. > > Thanks for this gem of technique. > > > > Regards > > Chakraborty > > PS..... I do wonder why Ketu is deciding marriage. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of vijay.goel > Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 AM > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage > > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > The use of ketu dispositer as your have explained is totally new to me. > > Thankyou for sharing this info, and regards to your generous teachers. > > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. >

> ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>, Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > while judging a chart few things which we keep in mind is Desh, kal ,and patra.then we try to findout wheather the chart is of early marriage,or delay marriage. i don't think it isÃƒâ€š very difficult to find out. > > Now you can apply the rules,it goes like that,check ketu's dispositor in the chart,in your chart it is saturn placed in

sixth houseÃƒâ€š ,note the saturn and seventh from it,we have to start counting from saturn ,to complete the circle when we reachÃƒâ€š saturn again 12 years completed.since twelve years is not the age of getting married we have to move further next time when we reached saturn it would be 24 years, crucial age to get married.in your caseÃƒâ€š I don't see much delay in your marriage so i decided thatÃƒâ€š 24Ãƒâ€š has to beÃƒâ€š expected age of getting married.note that it is not just saturnÃƒâ€š and 7 from it but also,,ketu and 7 from it which can decide the exact age.for instance if it would have been delayed marriage I would have suggested 30Ãƒâ€š {7 from saturn}Ãƒâ€š or 31{7 from ketu}Ãƒâ€š age for marriage.

> > while narrowing down the age group it is essential to note dasha pattern running at that time plus -minus six months will do as we all know it is dasha and transits which fructify the events. > > Kindly don't ask me the source of this rule as these tested parameters are theÃƒâ€š nector poured by ourÃƒâ€š teachers who areÃƒâ€š devoting their lives in the devine service of astrology and selflessly distributing among their pupils.sharing the knowledge is my way of showing gratuitude towards them. > > Ãƒâ€š > > Regards. > > Vandana Mishra > > Ãƒâ€š

> > - On Sun, 11/8/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>

> > Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:41 AM > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji, > > > > Thank You for your inputs. My Date of marriage is 9th May 1984. Please > > share the other method please. I am like a warrior who likes to learn > > use of various weapons for warfare, and always curious to learn so. The > > marriage timing part is very essential to be successful in field of > > astrology. If one can do this then it does not take long for him to > > become respected and well known in his circles. I consider that in fact > > every astrologer must consider himself as an astrologer only if he is > > able to overcome this Query in the beginning of his professional Career. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@>

wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > In my view the age 24,or 25 year 1985 is crucial forÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ yourÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > marriage.this time i have neither checked dasha nor transits.kindly > > confirm if it is correct i can further go ahead and shared the forum > > with another tool ofÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ predicting correct year of marriage.

> > > Regards. > > > Vandana Mishra > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs > > on Timing marriage > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:30 AM > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji, > > > Thanks. > > > I understand that the double transit of these slow moving planets > > triggers the marriage. > > > To put in straight sentences, both Jupiter and Saturn in transit > > should touch either of these- > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > From Lagna (Jupiter) > > > Lagna Lord and 7th Lord or > > > Lagna and 7th Lord or > > > Lagna and 7th House or > > > Lagna Lord and 7th house. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > Repeat from Lagna (Saturn) > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > Repeat above 8 points from Moon Lagna. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > I feel that aboveÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ points being touched by Jupiter or Saturn, could

> > happen at several > > > times in a persons Life, and this could be too confusing and leave one > > with a headache > > > by the time he finishes studying, noting and writing down above > > transits on a piece of > > > paper. Or does it not happen several times ? I am not sure. We will > > have to check > > > this on a number of Horoscopes to understand. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > What is the easiest way to go through above process ? > > > from where to begin ? > > > How should one start checking ? > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > The second rule mentioned, about Sodya Pinda I have not tried, so > > cannot comment. Need someone to help me here. > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > Shall await the illustrations, and thanks once again to take pains for > > replying.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > You can also take my own chart if you wish, to illustrate. > > > DOB 28th June 1961. 10.15amÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ Eluru 16.45N 81.09E > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > regards/Bhaskar.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > Yes,it is astrological truth that for fructification of any events > > especially marriage double transit of jupiter and sat ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ is very

> > important.right now i am presenting only rules,but later i will > > definitely explain with few examples.for sat its connection with 7h > > 7l,either from lagna or moon sign is important in determining the year > > of marriage of course dasha must promised. > > > > since jupiter transits for 13 months it helps in narrow down the > > date of marriage.its connection with 7h,7l further confirm nearest dates > > of months.mars manglya karaka making any connection with marriage > > related houses decides months. > > > > so far BAV of venus goes there is one rule,if we multiply the > > shodhya pind of venus by the bindus in 7 from venus,divide by 27 and > > count the remainder from aswani.when jupiter passes over this nak,or its > > trines marriage may takes place. > > > > I Will definetely explain

with example in my next mail. > > > > Regards. > > > > Vandana Mishra > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Looking for Practical inputs on > > Timing marriage > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > There are many dictums which teach us how to determine the timing of > > > > marriage. But most of them are too confusing and require a good > > number > > > > of critical planets in the chart, to be touched in transits. The end > > results is > > > > that a astrologer lands up with several dates of marriage which does > > not > > > > conclusively tell actually when the marriage will really take place. > > If > > > > we give several dates of marriage to a native, he will either throw > > > > us out of his house, or will stop visiting our house. > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > 1)Saturn transit (As he is Kaal the time keeper), Jupiter transit > > > > (For blessings) and Mars transit (For Mangalya) are again the > > indicators > > > > of marriage. How do we use these transits effectively ?ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > 2) Sodhya Pinda of Venus, BAV of Venus, and determination of the > > > > right point, on which Jupiter transits, will determine Nakshatra > > over > > > > which Jupiter transits will again determine timing of marriage .How > > > > to do this ? > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > Can anybody explain this in simple language without too much theory > > > > or presenting shlokas, but illustrate with 2 examples, how to do > > > > this ? > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > Please do not bring inÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ Divisional charts, except maybe for > > Navamsha, > > > > and do not bring in KP too.ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

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November 9, 2009

Respected Vandana Ji,

Not only you have made sense, we are grateful to you for sharing this wonderful tid bit from your teachers.

I applied it exactly as you have indicated to my own chart:

June 8, 1970, 17:00 Tirrupattur, India (78 E 37, 10 N 08)

Scorpio Lagna, Ketu in Leo

Ketu's dispoistor Sun in 7H in Taurus

Chart shows multiple afflictions to 7H, 7L and Venus but Jupiter's aspect is there on all key parameters.

Favourable Dasha periods for marriage in correct age means no denial for marriage but may be delayed and difficult.

Start counting from Sun (Taurus). 12 years to Aries, 22 Years we arrive at Rahu in 4H.

We pause at Rahu since it is important Axis. However due to affliction, there is delay so we go on counting.

We come to Ketu in Leo and it is 28 years.

So approximate Age is 28 years. So let us check Dasha/Antar and Transit at that time.

It is Ketu-Mercury in June 8 1998. Transit postions are Jupiter in Pisces and Saturn in Aries. We can see that Jupiter/Saturn do not influence any significant houses by double transit aspects. So Now let us try going back one year and check again:

June 8, 1997. Dasha is Ketu-Saturn. Transit position of Jupiter is Capricon and Saturn in Pisces. Now from this position we can see Jupiter and Saturn influence BOTH 7H and 11H by double transit aspects. So this year holds good promise. Further Ketu is with Sun in his own house in 2H of Navamsha. Saturn is exalted in 4H of Navamsha, conjunct Jupiter and aspecting Navamsha Lagna. So it looks promising.

Result: My actual date of Marriage was July 11, 1997 at Age 27 years in Ketu-Saturn.

So the method you have proposed works beautifully in my case.

Regards,

-Manoj

Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_91 Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 11:51:59 AMRE: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage

Respected Chakrabortyji,

counting has to be start from ketu's dispositor. in your case we will start the counting from venus.since it is placed in lagna,keep finger on venus it is our 1 year ,then 2h willbe 2year and so on so forth.in your chart marriage took place on 22 year .if you continue to count you will see that 22 year will fall in 10 h,one house before where ketu is placed. As i said plus minus six months will do as dasha and trasits are the ultimate deciding factor. now the rules are-

1}counting starts from ketu's dispositor,whereeve r it is placed.

2}note the rahu ketu axis those years are crucial. 3}also note the asc and 7h in deciding the year of marriage that axis will again play an imporant role.so in nutshell we have three axis 1-ketu's dispositor and 7 from it ,2-rah-ketu axis,3-lagna -7 h axis.

I hope i have made some sense.

Regards.

Vandana Mishra--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> wrote:

Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage"'ancient_indian_ astrology'" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:33 AM

ï»¿ Dear Neelam-ji,

I have tried one chart...of my Better half.

She has Ketu in Taurus in 11th house. The dispositor venus is in 1st

house Cancer (but with parivartan with moon in Tula).

Marriage took place on 22nd year (21 year + 350 days). It appears that

the counting does not hold good exactly...more of a rough estimate.

But if we cound from the dispositor to Ketu....it can be a close match. Or

may be from Ascendant to Ketu...

regards

Chakraborty

ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of neelam guptaMonday, November 09, 2009 1:40 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage

Dear Gopu ji,If Rahu is karaka for marriage (some call him Rahu-Byahu in the northern Hindi belt), then how can one escape Ketu when he gets his seat in 7th from Rahu. If not Ketu, who else!But on a serious note, let us test this theory practically on some charts and ask Vandana ji to demonstrate it for us.RegardsNeelam

2009/11/9 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >

Dear Chakraborty ji and vandana jiHA,HA that's why astrology is wonderful super science.Sanivad Rahu;Kujavad ketu it is said.May be it has got something to do with it.Kuja is the L/L & 8L of natural zodiac.8th is 2nd(family) from 7th.May be Vandana ji can clarify..... ..Regards,gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vandana-ji, > > I am trying to understand the system. > > From Ketu's dispositor, counting to be started. > From this system, marriage age will come in multiple > of 12 years only. > > Marriage may also come from 7th of Ketu's dispositor. > So, marriage may come in 19/31/38years and so on. > > If marraige comes from Ketu, then year of marriage > will depend on distance between Ketu & it's dispositor > > Similarly for 7th from Ketu. > > So, looking at the probability of early/delayed/ very delayed > marriage, one has to pick up a suitable year. > > Thanks for

this gem of technique. > > > > Regards > > Chakraborty > > PS..... I do wonder why Ketu is deciding marriage. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of vijay.goel > Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 AM > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on Timing

marriage > > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > The use of ketu dispositer as your have explained is totally new to me. > > Thankyou for sharing this info, and regards to your generous teachers. > > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. >

> ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>, Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > while judging a chart few things which we keep in mind is Desh, kal ,and patra.then we try to findout wheather the chart is of early marriage,or delay marriage. i don't think it isÃƒâ€š very difficult to find out. > > Now you can apply the rules,it goes like that,check ketu's dispositor in the chart,in your chart it is saturn placed in sixth houseÃƒâ€š ,note the saturn and seventh from it,we have to start counting from saturn ,to complete the circle when

we reachÃƒâ€š saturn again 12 years completed.since twelve years is not the age of getting married we have to move further next time when we reached saturn it would be 24 years, crucial age to get married.in your caseÃƒâ€š I don't see much delay in your marriage so i decided thatÃƒâ€š 24Ãƒâ€š has to beÃƒâ€š expected age of getting married.note that it is not just saturnÃƒâ€š and 7 from it but also,,ketu and 7 from it which can decide the exact age.for instance if it would have been delayed marriage I would have suggested 30Ãƒâ€š {7 from saturn}Ãƒâ€š or 31{7 from ketu}Ãƒâ€š age for marriage.