Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, //> Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research purposes and for learning through same.// Yes, those gone are gone; but yes their data is CERTAINLY useful for research purpose. So that once we are certain about the accuracy and usefulness of the method we can apply them on charts living ones as well, and thus make it useful and also possibly use it as a tool for objective verification of astrology. //I appreciate the burden Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable understanding in this longevity issue.// Thanks. //> In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to me as per their methods.// Even though the method is easy to apply/calculate. I won't suggest you should do it. For example, even I myself haven't yet tried the same on my chart. Even though in one sense it is good to know the maximum longevity indicated by our chart, it can have a negative effect as well. I have heard a story - Once a king asked his friend the court astrologer to calculate kings longevity. He denied, and suggested the king not to do so. But the king persisted. Then the astrologer said. " I will calculate my own longevity and write it down in a scroll, and will enclose it a box and will give it to you. That will contain both my own longevity as well as the king's longevity calculated and written on it. When I die you should open the box and verify whether the longevity of given for me - the court astrologer - is right or not. If it is ok, then you can be sure that the longevity provided for the king will also be right. Then it is all yours to decide whether to know it or not " . The king agreed. The astrologer calculated the longevity of himself and the king, wrote it in a scroll and enclosed in a box and given to the king to keep. The king kept his word and never opened that box. Years passed. One day the astrologer passed away. The king ordered to open the box, and found that the date provided by the astrologer is accurate - even to the date! He was stunned, his hands shivered and he was lot afraid to open the scroll in which his death-date/longevity is written. Who know what it would be! But then he gathered strength - curiosity is very difficult to stop - and decided to open it any way, and opened it! There it was! It read that the the king will die exactly 3 months after the astrologer's death. King was struck as if with a thunder bolt. He was then only an young man around 40 years. He shivered, frustration came in, peace of mind gone! What ever he did, the king couldn't concentrate - and as days goes by - he became mad... The mind is wild, uncontrolled, and after 3 months he died as fully mad man; a pathetic death. He could have avoided it, he could have lived 3 more months peacefully - but what he chose brought-in psychological issues for him. The court astrologer might have known it earlier itself; he must be aware about the spiritual weakness of the king and affinity to materialistic; and possibly he might have visualized that if the truth is revealed the king cannot stand it; and possibly it was the very reason the astrologer found a device/a story and an oath to hide it from the king as long as possible. But at the end, the scroll took its toll! Anyway, that is a story - Possibly a real one. We as human beings can have our own choices, but every choice has its own toll to give- Its own actions and impacts. When we take a choice, we should be ready to take its impact as well - whether good or bad. //> But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if you are interested. // Yes, now it is upto you to decide. If you still persist, I don't have anything against in doing the calculation and providing the result. But as I told you, I haven't tried the same in my own chart as well and don't intend to. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and friends, > > Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research > purposes and for learning through same. I appreciate the burden > Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable > understanding in this longevity issue. > > In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes > my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or > comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to > me as per their methods. (Yaar bhai log jindon ko bhi khush karo na. > Madhubala aur Geeta Dutt sab chale gaye, hame batao hame kab jaana hai > unke paas). > > My birth details once again. 28th June 1961 10.15am 16.45N 81-09E Eluru. > > Hope you will do this favour for me. (Ab jindagi mein bahut kuch lutf > nahin bacha . Magar kuch pleasures poore karne baaki hain. I wish to go > to Brazil first, and then Egypt and then Venice and many more places, > and with a new companion alongside at every place I visit. HaHa. Now > Dont feel zealous.) > > But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if > you are interested. > > Love n regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > , " sreesog " <sreesog@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kursija ji, > > If you try those suggestions in Rajiv Gandhi's chart you will find > that the Amshayu calculation method gives 46 years itself as maximum > longevity! Interesting! > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > sckursija@ wrote: > > > > > > sh.Sreenad ji. > > > Thanks for the pains you are taking for the Amshayu. I will try your > suggestions and revert back. > > > Love and Regards > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji, Please continue with the request. I am not bothered of the impact. I will still go to Brazil after 5 years... Love n regards, Bhaskar. , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > //> Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research purposes and for learning through same.// > Yes, those gone are gone; but yes their data is CERTAINLY useful for research purpose. So that once we are certain about the accuracy and usefulness of the method we can apply them on charts living ones as well, and thus make it useful and also possibly use it as a tool for objective verification of astrology. > //I appreciate the burden Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable understanding in this longevity issue.// > Thanks. > //> In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to me as per their methods.// > Even though the method is easy to apply/calculate. I won't suggest you should do it. For example, even I myself haven't yet tried the same on my chart. Even though in one sense it is good to know the maximum longevity indicated by our chart, it can have a negative effect as well. I have heard a story - > Once a king asked his friend the court astrologer to calculate kings longevity. He denied, and suggested the king not to do so. But the king persisted. Then the astrologer said. " I will calculate my own longevity and write it down in a scroll, and will enclose it a box and will give it to you. That will contain both my own longevity as well as the king's longevity calculated and written on it. When I die you should open the box and verify whether the longevity of given for me - the court astrologer - is right or not. If it is ok, then you can be sure that the longevity provided for the king will also be right. Then it is all yours to decide whether to know it or not " . The king agreed. The astrologer calculated the longevity of himself and the king, wrote it in a scroll and enclosed in a box and given to the king to keep. The king kept his word and never opened that box. Years passed. One day the astrologer passed away. The king ordered to open the box, and found that the date provided by the astrologer is accurate - even to the date! He was stunned, his hands shivered and he was lot afraid to open the scroll in which his death-date/longevity is written. Who know what it would be! But then he gathered strength - curiosity is very difficult to stop - and decided to open it any way, and opened it! There it was! It read that the the king will die exactly 3 months after the astrologer's death. King was struck as if with a thunder bolt. He was then only an young man around 40 years. He shivered, frustration came in, peace of mind gone! What ever he did, the king couldn't concentrate - and as days goes by - he became mad... The mind is wild, uncontrolled, and after 3 months he died as fully mad man; a pathetic death. He could have avoided it, he could have lived 3 more months peacefully - but what he chose brought-in psychological issues for him. The court astrologer might have known it earlier itself; he must be aware about the spiritual weakness of the king and affinity to materialistic; and possibly he might have visualized that if the truth is revealed the king cannot stand it; and possibly it was the very reason the astrologer found a device/a story and an oath to hide it from the king as long as possible. But at the end, the scroll took its toll! > Anyway, that is a story - Possibly a real one. We as human beings can have our own choices, but every choice has its own toll to give- Its own actions and impacts. When we take a choice, we should be ready to take its impact as well - whether good or bad. > //> But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if you are interested. // > Yes, now it is upto you to decide. If you still persist, I don't have anything against in doing the calculation and providing the result. But as I told you, I haven't tried the same in my own chart as well and don't intend to. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and friends, > > > > Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research > > purposes and for learning through same. I appreciate the burden > > Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable > > understanding in this longevity issue. > > > > In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes > > my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or > > comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to > > me as per their methods. (Yaar bhai log jindon ko bhi khush karo na. > > Madhubala aur Geeta Dutt sab chale gaye, hame batao hame kab jaana hai > > unke paas). > > > > My birth details once again. 28th June 1961 10.15am 16.45N 81-09E Eluru. > > > > Hope you will do this favour for me. (Ab jindagi mein bahut kuch lutf > > nahin bacha . Magar kuch pleasures poore karne baaki hain. I wish to go > > to Brazil first, and then Egypt and then Venice and many more places, > > and with a new companion alongside at every place I visit. HaHa. Now > > Dont feel zealous.) > > > > But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if > > you are interested. > > > > Love n regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " sreesog " <sreesog@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kursija ji, > > > If you try those suggestions in Rajiv Gandhi's chart you will find > > that the Amshayu calculation method gives 46 years itself as maximum > > longevity! Interesting! > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " S.C. Kursija " > > sckursija@ wrote: > > > > > > > > sh.Sreenad ji. > > > > Thanks for the pains you are taking for the Amshayu. I will try your > > suggestions and revert back. > > > > Love and Regards > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, Pranams. I was a bit worried why Shri Bhaskarji is eager to know his longevity. Any human soul would not stand the strain of knowing the DDay of his own unless he/she is a REALISED soul. The realised souls feel the burden of the body and life very heavily who have already dead as far as their bodies are concerned. You are right in saying with hesitation. God bless Shri Bhaskarji with long life. I had a strange idea when i read the mail of Shri Bhaskarji, how the skilled astrologers would feel about their own longevity. When it comes to realtime experience, it sends shocks into your system.With best regards,S.R.Balasubramaniam--- On Thu, 12/11/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:sreesog <sreesog Re: Amshayu - Bhaskar ji's request Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 4:17 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, //> Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research purposes and for learning through same.// Yes, those gone are gone; but yes their data is CERTAINLY useful for research purpose. So that once we are certain about the accuracy and usefulness of the method we can apply them on charts living ones as well, and thus make it useful and also possibly use it as a tool for objective verification of astrology. //I appreciate the burden Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable understanding in this longevity issue.// Thanks. //> In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to me as per their methods.// Even though the method is easy to apply/calculate. I won't suggest you should do it. For example, even I myself haven't yet tried the same on my chart. Even though in one sense it is good to know the maximum longevity indicated by our chart, it can have a negative effect as well. I have heard a story - Once a king asked his friend the court astrologer to calculate kings longevity. He denied, and suggested the king not to do so. But the king persisted. Then the astrologer said. "I will calculate my own longevity and write it down in a scroll, and will enclose it a box and will give it to you. That will contain both my own longevity as well as the king's longevity calculated and written on it. When I die you should open the box and verify whether the longevity of given for me - the court astrologer - is right or not. If it is ok, then you can be sure that the longevity provided for the king will also be right. Then it is all yours to decide whether to know it or not". The king agreed. The astrologer calculated the longevity of himself and the king, wrote it in a scroll and enclosed in a box and given to the king to keep. The king kept his word and never opened that box. Years passed. One day the astrologer passed away. The king ordered to open the box, and found that the date provided by the astrologer is accurate - even to the date! He was stunned, his hands shivered and he was lot afraid to open the scroll in which his death-date/longevit y is written. Who know what it would be! But then he gathered strength - curiosity is very difficult to stop - and decided to open it any way, and opened it! There it was! It read that the the king will die exactly 3 months after the astrologer's death. King was struck as if with a thunder bolt. He was then only an young man around 40 years. He shivered, frustration came in, peace of mind gone! What ever he did, the king couldn't concentrate - and as days goes by - he became mad... The mind is wild, uncontrolled, and after 3 months he died as fully mad man; a pathetic death. He could have avoided it, he could have lived 3 more months peacefully - but what he chose brought-in psychological issues for him. The court astrologer might have known it earlier itself; he must be aware about the spiritual weakness of the king and affinity to materialistic; and possibly he might have visualized that if the truth is revealed the king cannot stand it; and possibly it was the very reason the astrologer found a device/a story and an oath to hide it from the king as long as possible. But at the end, the scroll took its toll! Anyway, that is a story - Possibly a real one. We as human beings can have our own choices, but every choice has its own toll to give- Its own actions and impacts. When we take a choice, we should be ready to take its impact as well - whether good or bad. //> But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if you are interested. // Yes, now it is upto you to decide. If you still persist, I don't have anything against in doing the calculation and providing the result. But as I told you, I haven't tried the same in my own chart as well and don't intend to. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and friends, > > Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research > purposes and for learning through same. I appreciate the burden > Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable > understanding in this longevity issue. > > In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes > my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or > comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to > me as per their methods. (Yaar bhai log jindon ko bhi khush karo na. > Madhubala aur Geeta Dutt sab chale gaye, hame batao hame kab jaana hai > unke paas). > > My birth details once again. 28th June 1961 10.15am 16.45N 81-09E Eluru. > > Hope you will do this favour for me. (Ab jindagi mein bahut kuch lutf > nahin bacha . Magar kuch pleasures poore karne baaki hain. I wish to go > to Brazil first, and then Egypt and then Venice and many more places, > and with a new companion alongside at every place I visit. HaHa. Now > Dont feel zealous.) > > But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if > you are interested. > > Love n regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" <sreesog@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kursija ji, > > If you try those suggestions in Rajiv Gandhi's chart you will find > that the Amshayu calculation method gives 46 years itself as maximum > longevity! Interesting! > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" > sckursija@ wrote: > > > > > > sh.Sreenad ji. > > > Thanks for the pains you are taking for the Amshayu. I will try your > suggestions and revert back. > > > Love and Regards > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Shri Balasubramanium ji, I appreciate your concern and thank you for the same. I have already calculated my longevity through 5 methods a decade back and have my age confirmed from My guru too. So actually I am not eager to know my longevity. I was just eager to check the efficacy of the method Shri Sreenadhji has employed whether it works on my chart or not. For me a dead man is one, who is able to work but does not (Karmaheena). For me a living man is one who may be terminally ill yet is working day and night to the best of his ability to provide for his family. He may or may not believe in God does not matter as long as he is karmasheel. That is the material definition of Living and dead for me. As far as spiritual definition goes, for me a living man is one who knows that death is just next door, and the next moment and breath is a gift from God , who knows very well that all relatkions including his family members are temporary characters of a dream world and Life is but a memory. (Today what we are doing is soon going to turn into " what we did " and this will soon turn into memory). So he does not develop much attachment with anybody or anything. A dead man is one who is Full of Ego who does not consider Love as important, who does not care for hurting his close ones, who thinks that tomorrow will be there for him always, and who takes all his close ones and everything for granted, without a thought for their nature of temporance or permanence. Another point I would like to mention, that Life does not end with the death of this body and we have many bodies (Saptakosha) yet to cover and many planes (7 Astral planes) yet to cover. Adn who knows how many years and times we may have to be re-born here again on Earth till one completes his rinabandhans ? So what is there to get afraid of issues like longevity ? Who must desire for good longevity ? one who wants to enjoy more pleasures ? No. Because pleasures and the joy from same can never end. The one who must look for more longevity is one who is under debts, or one who has still to complete his filial duties, or one who has not taken Gods name to his hearts content. For the rest, longevity factor is nothing. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > >> > Dear Sreenadhji, > >                  Pranams. I was a bit worried why Shri Bhaskarji is eager to know his longevity. Any human soul would not stand the strain of knowing the DDay of his own unless he/she is a REALISED soul. The realised souls feel the burden of the body and life very heavily who have already dead as far as their bodies are concerned. You are right in saying with hesitation. God bless Shri Bhaskarji with long life. I had a strange idea when i read the mail of Shri Bhaskarji, how the skilled astrologers would feel about their own longevity. When it comes to realtime experience, it sends shocks into your system. > > With best regards, > S.R.Balasubramaniam > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, sreesog sreesog wrote: > > sreesog sreesog > Re: Amshayu - Bhaskar ji's request > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 4:17 PM >  > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > //> Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research purposes and for learning through same.// > > Yes, those gone are gone; but yes their data is CERTAINLY useful for research purpose. So that once we are certain about the accuracy and usefulness of the method we can apply them on charts living ones as well, and thus make it useful and also possibly use it as a tool for objective verification of astrology. > > //I appreciate the burden Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable understanding in this longevity issue.// > > Thanks. > > //> In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to me as per their methods.// > > Even though the method is easy to apply/calculate. I won't suggest you should do it. For example, even I myself haven't yet tried the same on my chart. Even though in one sense it is good to know the maximum longevity indicated by our chart, it can have a negative effect as well. I have heard a story - > > Once a king asked his friend the court astrologer to calculate kings longevity. He denied, and suggested the king not to do so. But the king persisted. Then the astrologer said. " I will calculate my own longevity and write it down in a scroll, and will enclose it a box and will give it to you. That will contain both my own longevity as well as the king's longevity calculated and written on it. When I die you should open the box and verify whether the longevity of given for me - the court astrologer - is right or not. If it is ok, then you can be sure that the longevity provided for the king will also be right. Then it is all yours to decide whether to know it or not " . The king agreed. The astrologer calculated the longevity of himself and the king, wrote it in a scroll and enclosed in a box and given to the king to keep. The king kept his word and never opened that box. Years passed. One day the astrologer passed away. The king ordered to open the box, > and found that the date provided by the astrologer is accurate - even to the date! He was stunned, his hands shivered and he was lot afraid to open the scroll in which his death-date/longevit y is written. Who know what it would be! But then he gathered strength - curiosity is very difficult to stop - and decided to open it any way, and opened it! There it was! It read that the the king will die exactly 3 months after the astrologer's death. King was struck as if with a thunder bolt. He was then only an young man around 40 years. He shivered, frustration came in, peace of mind gone! What ever he did, the king couldn't concentrate - and as days goes by - he became mad... The mind is wild, uncontrolled, and after 3 months he died as fully mad man; a pathetic death. He could have avoided it, he could have lived 3 more months peacefully - but what he chose brought-in psychological issues for him. The court astrologer might have known it earlier itself; he > must be aware about the spiritual weakness of the king and affinity to materialistic; and possibly he might have visualized that if the truth is revealed the king cannot stand it; and possibly it was the very reason the astrologer found a device/a story and an oath to hide it from the king as long as possible. But at the end, the scroll took its toll! > > Anyway, that is a story - Possibly a real one. We as human beings can have our own choices, but every choice has its own toll to give- Its own actions and impacts. When we take a choice, we should be ready to take its impact as well - whether good or bad. > > //> But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if you are interested. // > > Yes, now it is upto you to decide. If you still persist, I don't have anything against in doing the calculation and providing the result. But as I told you, I haven't tried the same in my own chart as well and don't intend to. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and friends, > > > > > > Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good for research > > > purposes and for learning through same. I appreciate the burden > > > Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable > > > understanding in this longevity issue. > > > > > > In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone else takes > > > my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or > > > comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given to > > > me as per their methods. (Yaar bhai log jindon ko bhi khush karo na. > > > Madhubala aur Geeta Dutt sab chale gaye, hame batao hame kab jaana hai > > > unke paas). > > > > > > My birth details once again. 28th June 1961 10.15am 16.45N 81-09E Eluru. > > > > > > Hope you will do this favour for me. (Ab jindagi mein bahut kuch lutf > > > nahin bacha . Magar kuch pleasures poore karne baaki hain. I wish to go > > > to Brazil first, and then Egypt and then Venice and many more places, > > > and with a new companion alongside at every place I visit. HaHa. Now > > > Dont feel zealous.) > > > > > > But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on my chart.....if > > > you are interested. > > > > > > Love n regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreesog " <sreesog@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kursija ji, > > > > If you try those suggestions in Rajiv Gandhi's chart you will find > > > that the Amshayu calculation method gives 46 years itself as maximum > > > longevity! Interesting! > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " S.C. Kursija " > > > sckursija@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sh.Sreenad ji. > > > > > Thanks for the pains you are taking for the Amshayu. I will try your > > > suggestions and revert back. > > > > > Love and Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, You have a long life ahead. As per Amsayu calculations your maximum longevity is 73 years 3 months and 5 days. Calculation details are pasted below (from the standard excel sheet I prepared) - Longevity Harana (Deduction) Bharana (Addition) Serial Planet Sign Degree Minute House Count Malefic Enemy house Exalted Retrograde Combust Vargottama Swakshetra Swamsa Swa-Drekkana Std. Longevity Satru keshetra Moudhya Drishyartha Divisor Drishyartha Amsadi Swatungadi Lagnayu 1 Asc 4 15 15 1 N N N N Y 4.542 4.542 4.542 0.000 4.542 0.000 0.000 4.508 2 Su 2 12 12 11 Y N N N N 9.660 9.660 9.660 2.000 4.830 4.606 4.606 0 3 Mo 8 7 38 5 N N N N N 2.290 2.290 2.290 1.000 2.290 2.184 2.184 0 4 Ma 4 5 29 1 Y N N N N 1.645 1.645 1.645 1.000 1.645 1.569 1.569 0 5 Me 2 11 5 11 N N Y N Y 9.325 9.325 9.325 4.000 6.994 6.670 20.010 0 6 Ju 9 11 24 6 N N Y N N 0.420 0.420 0.420 1.000 0.420 0.401 1.202 0 7 Ve 0 26 43 9 N N N N N 8.015 8.015 8.015 8.000 7.013 6.688 6.688 0 8 Sa 9 3 59 6 Y N Y N Y 10.195 10.195 10.195 1.000 10.195 9.723 29.169 0 9 Ra 4 5 51 1 Y N N N N 1.755 1.755 1.755 1.000 1.755 1.674 1.674 0 10 Ke 10 5 51 7 Y N N N N 7.755 7.755 7.755 6.000 6.463 6.163 6.163 0 55.602 55.602 55.602 46.146 39.678 73.265 Major Malefic in Lagna Y 73 3 5 Navamsa Count of Lagna 5 Maximum Expected Longevity = 73 Years 3 Months 5 Days Love and Regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > Please continue with the request. I am not bothered of the impact. I> will still go to Brazil after 5 years...> > Love n regards,> > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Pranams. Thank you for your nice post. Undoubtedly you are a man of grit and will power. Let God fulfill all your Mano Abhishtas. Thank you.With regardsS.R.Balasubramaniam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji, Thanks. So I can still enjoy the pleasures of the world what say ? Your longevity calculations and conclusion is much near to what I have been told. Rest God knows. I appreciate your commitment to the subject " astrology " and observe that you will go a long way ahead in time to come and not remain a " writer on astrology " but will yourself be an accomplished astrologer. The day is not far as I see it. You have been keeping awake late hours , which only a " lover " of any subject can do. I have been noticing this for quite some time and can grasp the potential in one when I see it. In the meanwhile all these attempts of labour must be collected, assembled and a folder made which should be filed in the Files Section, so that they are not lost in future. best wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, Thanks for the wishes. You have a long life ahead and much to accomplish. By the way, I have created an excel worksheet that will automatically calculate and display longevity with minimum inputs (such as planetary longitudes etc). I have uploaded the same in the files section already inside the folder named " Sreenadh OG " . Hope you will experiment with it and enjoy it. Please provide your feedback as well after experimenting with some known charts. I plan to prepare similar sheets for 'Pindayu' and 'Jeevasarmeeya' calculations as well. Love and regards, Sreeandh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > Thanks. So I can still enjoy the pleasures of the world what say ? Your > longevity calculations and conclusion is much near to what I have been > told. Rest God knows. I appreciate your commitment to the subject > " astrology " and observe that you will go a long way ahead in time to > come and not remain a " writer on astrology " but will yourself be an > accomplished astrologer. The day is not far as I see it. You have been > keeping awake late hours , which only a " lover " of any subject can do. I > have been noticing this for quite some time and can grasp the potential > in one when I see it. > > In the meanwhile all these attempts of labour must be collected, > assembled and a folder made which should be filed in the Files Section, > so that they are not lost in future. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Balasubramanian ji, What you said is absolutely true especially if the calculated longevity is short. But if it is long enough usually no worries. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Pranams. I was a bit worried why Shri Bhaskarji is eager to know his longevity. Any human soul would not stand the strain of knowing the DDay of his own unless he/she is a REALISED soul. The realised souls feel the burden of the body and life very heavily who have already dead as far as their bodies are concerned. You are right in saying with hesitation. God bless Shri Bhaskarji with long life. I had a strange idea when i read the mail of Shri Bhaskarji, how the skilled astrologers would feel about their own longevity. When it comes to realtime experience, it sends shocks into your system. > > With best regards, > S.R.Balasubramaniam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dear friends, There is no fear or issue normally if one has long Life. But to know this one has to bypass fear initially. Because the time period within the process of knowing this itself is fearful. Once you know that You dont have AIDS , you will be a fearless man. But if I tell you that go and get yourself checked, then till the time you come to know the result, you will be trembling with fear. In fact unless necessary, you wont even agree to get yourself tested. So you have to bypass this fear to know whether you have AIDS or not. But again whats the guarantee that after the result has been received as negative, one will not contract this on his next day visit to the Dentist ? Same with pregnancy test to a women who does not wish to become a mother too early, or anymore. It costs just Rs.40- to buy this strip from a chemist and takes just 5 miniutes to test positive or negative. But till the blue strip arrives on the measurement scale after the urine sample drops are administered on the strip, those 5 minutes of fear are only known to those ladies who have done this. But again whats the guarantee that after the result has been received as negative, one will not become pregnant the same night ? Same with longevity. Those who indulge in trying to know about their own longevity have to go through this fear. Their fear is expelled if told that they have a good longevity. But again whats the guarantee that after the result has been received as good longevity, one would not cut his Life short by some stupid " Kriyamana karma " which shortens his Life ? or is shortened by the curse of some Saint Purush who has been hurt ? Or is brought to alpayu through some Black magic or astral actions ? Again for one with alpayu whats the guarantee that he cannot elongate it through proper Kriya Yoga and right living ? In this world nothing can be taken at face value. Nothing is impossible. Nothing is definite. There is no use to be too happy or lament.. For we never know when tables may be turned by the Almighty Director " God " , of this dream and play " Maya " and we face something not expected in the least . best wishes, Bhaskar. , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Balasubramanian ji, > What you said is absolutely true especially if the calculated longevity is short. But if it is long enough usually no worries. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran balsu46@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Pranams. I was a bit worried why Shri Bhaskarji is eager to know his longevity. Any human soul would not stand the strain of knowing the DDay of his own unless he/she is a REALISED soul. The realised souls feel the burden of the body and life very heavily who have already dead as far as their bodies are concerned. You are right in saying with hesitation. God bless Shri Bhaskarji with long life. I had a strange idea when i read the mail of Shri Bhaskarji, how the skilled astrologers would feel about their own longevity. When it comes to realtime experience, it sends shocks into your system. > > > > With best regards, > > S.R.Balasubramaniam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, Thanks for the beautiful mail. Beautiful examples. I agree with you. I liked the last paras specially. //> But again whats the guarantee that after the result has been received as good longevity, one would not cut his Life short by some stupid " Kriyamana karma " which shortens his Life ? or is shortened by the curse of some Saint Purush who has been hurt ? Or is brought to alpayu through some Black magic or astral actions ? > Again for one with alpayu whats the guarantee that he cannot elongate it through proper Kriya Yoga and right living ? > In this world nothing can be taken at face value. Nothing is impossible. Nothing is definite. There is no use to be too happy or lament.. For we never know when tables may be turned by the Almighty Director " God " , of this dream and play " Maya " and we face something not expected in the least . // Well said! Hats off to you! Love and regards, Sreenadh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > There is no fear or issue normally if one has long Life. But to know > this one has to bypass fear initially. Because the time period within > the process of knowing this itself is fearful. > > Once you know that You dont have AIDS , you will be a fearless man. But > if I tell you that go and get yourself checked, then till the time you > come to know the result, you will be trembling with fear. In fact unless > necessary, you wont even agree to get yourself tested. So you have to > bypass this fear to know whether you have AIDS or not. > > But again whats the guarantee that after the result has been received as > negative, one will not contract this on his next day visit to the > Dentist ? > > Same with pregnancy test to a women who does not wish to become a mother > too early, or anymore. It costs just Rs.40- to buy this strip from a > chemist and takes just 5 miniutes to test positive or negative. But till > the blue strip arrives on the measurement scale after the urine sample > drops are administered on the strip, those 5 minutes of fear are only > known to those ladies who have done this. > > But again whats the guarantee that after the result has been received as > negative, one will not become pregnant the same night ? > > Same with longevity. Those who indulge in trying to know about their own > longevity have to go through this fear. Their fear is expelled if told > that they have a good longevity. > > But again whats the guarantee that after the result has been received as > good longevity, one would not cut his Life short by some stupid > " Kriyamana karma " which shortens his Life ? or is shortened by the > curse of some Saint Purush who has been hurt ? Or is brought to alpayu > through some Black magic or astral actions ? > > Again for one with alpayu whats the guarantee that he cannot elongate it > through proper Kriya Yoga and right living ? > > In this world nothing can be taken at face value. Nothing is impossible. > Nothing is definite. There is no use to be too happy or lament.. For we > never know when tables may be turned by the Almighty Director " God " , of > this dream and play " Maya " and we face something not expected in the > least . > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Well said Bhaskarji. You write well when your anger becomes sublime. I hope that does not get you angry.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Amshayu - Bhaskar ji's request Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 10:04 PM Dear Shri Balasubramanium ji,I appreciate your concern and thank you for the same.I have already calculated my longevity through 5 methods a decade backand have my age confirmed from My guru too. So actually I am not eagerto know my longevity. I was just eager to check the efficacy of themethod Shri Sreenadhji has employed whether it works on my chart or not.For me a dead man is one, who is able to work but does not (Karmaheena) .For me a living man is one who may be terminally ill yet is working dayand night to the best of his ability to provide for his family. He mayor may not believe in God does not matter as long as he is karmasheel.That is the material definition of Living and dead for me.As far as spiritual definition goes, for me a living man is one whoknows that death is just next door, and the next moment and breath is agift from God , who knows very well that all relatkions including hisfamily members are temporary characters of a dream world and Life is buta memory. (Today what we are doing is soon going to turn into "what wedid" and this will soon turn into memory). So he does not develop muchattachment with anybody or anything.A dead man is one who is Full of Ego who does not consider Love asimportant, who does not care for hurting his close ones, who thinks thattomorrow will be there for him always, and who takes all his close onesand everything for granted, without a thought for their nature oftemporance or permanence.Another point I would like to mention, that Life does not end with thedeath of this body and we have many bodies (Saptakosha) yet to cover andmany planes (7 Astral planes) yet to cover. Adn who knows how many yearsand times we may have to be re-born here again on Earth till onecompletes his rinabandhans ? So what is there to get afraid of issueslike longevity ?Who must desire for good longevity ? one who wants to enjoy morepleasures ? No. Because pleasures and the joy from same can never end.The one who must look for more longevity is one who is under debts, orone who has still to complete his filial duties, or one who has nottaken Gods name to his hearts content.For the rest, longevity factor is nothing.best wishes,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, BalasubramaniamRamachandran <balsu46 > wrote:>>>> Dear Sreenadhji,>>              Â   Pranams. I was a bit worried why Shri Bhaskarji iseager to know his longevity. Any human soul would not stand thestrain of knowing the DDay of his own unless he/she is a REALISED soul. The realised souls feel the burden of the body and life veryheavily who have already dead as far as their bodies are concerned. You are right in saying with hesitation. God bless Shri Bhaskarjiwith long life. I had a strange idea when i read the mail of ShriBhaskarji, how the skilled astrologers would feel about their ownlongevity. When it comes to realtime experience, it sends shocksinto your system.>> With best regards,> S.R.Balasubramaniam>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Thu, 12/11/09, sreesog sreesog wrote:>> sreesog sreesog [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Amshayu - Bhaskar ji's request> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 4:17 PM>>>>>>>> Â>>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji,>> //> Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good forresearch purposes and for learning through same.//>> Yes, those gone are gone; but yes their data is CERTAINLY useful forresearch purpose. So that once we are certain about the accuracy andusefulness of the method we can apply them on charts living ones aswell, and thus make it useful and also possibly use it as a tool forobjective verification of astrology.>> //I appreciate the burden Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reachsome levels of palpable understanding in this longevity issue.//>> Thanks. >> //> In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone elsetakes my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue orcomment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life is given tome as per their methods.//>> Even though the method is easy to apply/calculate. I won't suggest youshould do it. For example, even I myself haven't yet tried the same onmy chart. Even though in one sense it is good to know the maximumlongevity indicated by our chart, it can have a negative effect as well.I have heard a story ->> Once a king asked his friend the court astrologer to calculate kingslongevity. He denied, and suggested the king not to do so. But the kingpersisted. Then the astrologer said. "I will calculate my own longevityand write it down in a scroll, and will enclose it a box and will giveit to you. That will contain both my own longevity as well as the king'slongevity calculated and written on it. When I die you should open thebox and verify whether the longevity of given for me - the courtastrologer - is right or not. If it is ok, then you can be sure that thelongevity provided for the king will also be right. Then it is all yoursto decide whether to know it or not". The king agreed. The astrologercalculated the longevity of himself and the king, wrote it in a scrolland enclosed in a box and given to the king to keep. The king kept hisword and never opened that box. Years passed. One day the astrologerpassed away. The king ordered to open the box,> and found that the date provided by the astrologer is accurate - evento the date! He was stunned, his hands shivered and he was lot afraid toopen the scroll in which his death-date/longevit y is written. Who knowwhat it would be! But then he gathered strength - curiosity is verydifficult to stop - and decided to open it any way, and opened it! Thereit was! It read that the the king will die exactly 3 months after theastrologer's death. King was struck as if with a thunder bolt. He wasthen only an young man around 40 years. He shivered, frustration camein, peace of mind gone! What ever he did, the king couldn't concentrate- and as days goes by - he became mad... The mind is wild, uncontrolled,and after 3 months he died as fully mad man; a pathetic death. He couldhave avoided it, he could have lived 3 more months peacefully - but whathe chose brought-in psychological issues for him. The court astrologermight have known it earlier itself; he> must be aware about the spiritual weakness of the king and affinity tomaterialistic; and possibly he might have visualized that if the truthis revealed the king cannot stand it; and possibly it was the veryreason the astrologer found a device/a story and an oath to hide it fromthe king as long as possible. But at the end, the scroll took its toll!>> Anyway, that is a story - Possibly a real one. We as human beings canhave our own choices, but every choice has its own toll to give- Its ownactions and impacts. When we take a choice, we should be ready to takeits impact as well - whether good or bad.>> //> But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on mychart.....if you are interested. //>> Yes, now it is upto you to decide. If you still persist, I don't haveanything against in doing the calculation and providing the result. Butas I told you, I haven't tried the same in my own chart as well anddon't intend to.>> Love and regards,>> Sreenadh>>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> >>> >>> > Dear Sreenadh ji and friends,>> >>> > Those who are gone , they have gone. Now their data is good forresearch>> > purposes and for learning through same. I appreciate the burden>> > Sreenadhji has taken upon himself to reach some levels of palpable>> > understanding in this longevity issue.>> >>> > In the meanwhile I would appreciate if Sreenadhji or someone elsetakes>> > my case too and check the longevity. I promise I will not argue or>> > comment on the methodology but accept whatever lease of Life isgiven to>> > me as per their methods. (Yaar bhai log jindon ko bhi khush karo na.>> > Madhubala aur Geeta Dutt sab chale gaye, hame batao hame kab jaanahai>> > unke paas).>> >>> > My birth details once again. 28th June 1961 10.15am 16.45N 81-09EEluru.>> >>> > Hope you will do this favour for me. (Ab jindagi mein bahut kuchlutf>> > nahin bacha . Magar kuch pleasures poore karne baaki hain. I wish togo>> > to Brazil first, and then Egypt and then Venice and many moreplaces,>> > and with a new companion alongside at every place I visit. HaHa. Now>> > Dont feel zealous.)>> >>> > But on a serious note. Lets enjoy a longevity take on mychart.....if>> > you are interested.>> >>> > Love n regards,>> >>> > Bhaskar.>> >>> >>> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog"<sreesog@>>> > wrote:>> > >>> > > Dear Kursija ji,>> > > If you try those suggestions in Rajiv Gandhi's chart you will find>> > that the Amshayu calculation method gives 46 years itself as maximum>> > longevity! Interesting!>> > > Love and regards,>> > > Sreenadh>> > >>> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija">> > sckursija@ wrote:>> > > >>> > > > sh.Sreenad ji.>> > > > Thanks for the pains you are taking for the Amshayu. I will tryyour>> > suggestions and revert back.>> > > > Love and Regards>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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