Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009  Dear friends, I have two questions. One to Jyotirved and the other to Darshaneyji. 1) Jyotirved is saying that there is only one Makar Rekha when he says " There is absolutely no other Makar rekha " . Will Jyotirved tell the members where he found the reference to the " Makar rekha " in the ancient shastras? 2) Will Darshaneyji tell the members when according to the Brahmanas (integral part of the Vedas) the Mahashivaratri was observed from the ancient times? This will be an acid-test for his calendar. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Fri, 11/13/09, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote: jyotirved <jyotirved [VRI] FW: MeshadI & Tuladi indian_astrology_group_daily_digest , , vedic_research_institute , usbrahmins Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:34 AM    darshaney lokesh [darshaneylo kesh (AT) (DOT) co.in] Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:30 PM Krishen Cc: Hindu Calander Re: MeshadI & Tuladi    Respected Kaul ji,           Namastey. .  >I received today your post with cuttings from Amar Ujala and Dainik Jagran .There appears to be a steady uneasy feeling in the minds of general public that they are really celebrating their festivals on worng days. I am sure it will gather momentum and ultimately, " satyam eva jayate nanrtiam "   * Of course! As ‘Sarthee of the Satya’ (Satyya ke saarthee ke roop men) dedicated for doing that. The enclosed cuttings have been sent to more than 200 astrologers and panchanga makers since those  were giving nice coverage of the Chandausi Sammelan of Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti,     >Regarding the post " Meshadi & Tuladi " , I think it is the one that I am copying below from Hinducalendar forum. Pl. let me know.     *Definitely, it is the same.       It is to also let you know that the famous and quite relevant MATTHAADESH of Samvat 1929 is being reproduced in the SMKATP -2067 along with  three foot notes asking to the present param poojya shree that-            1. The said MATTHAADESH is still standing or cancelled?             2. If yes, then let us know the draft matter of the cancellation of the  MATTHAADESH.             3. If not, then how the Panchangas are being observed and how the Festivals are being observed by the loyal devotees of the respected MATH.             It is also brought in the notice of all concerning learned members of this group  that Sri Mohan Krity Arsh Tithi Patrak -2066, 2067 have been sent to almost all the MATHS through the Patrone, Shri Rahimal Prasad Tivari, Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti and following to that, Poojya Shankaracharya ji of Kanchipuram had called on me to his Ashram.. The invitation was  replied back asking for clear agenda of the meeting. Further reply from his holiness is awaited. I hope members will appreceiate and encourage my action.            This is in reply to an another mail received from you.            Thanks. Aum Sham.                                         \                                         \         Darshaney Lokesh                                         \                                         \        Genl Secretary,                                         \                                         \      Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti,                                         \                                         \        Greater Noida, UP 201310              ************ ********* ********* ** 7.        Primary School level Geography:  Let us see the situation in the light of modern astronomy/geography . Initially, I was myself peeved as to why the ayana and vishuva (Makara, Mesha, Karkata and Tula) sankrantis had been praised to the skies by our Rishis, so much so that they say that it is difficult even for yogis to catch the actual moment of such sankrantis and any charities or fasts on such occasions yield thousand-fold results! Let me explain it in a manner that is as non-technical as possible: We know that the earth hurtles around the sun at about 30 kilometers per second. (2) It also rotates on its axis, causing days and nights (3) The equator is " precessing " at tremendous speeds. (4) Because the ecliptic is inclined to the equator (obliquity of ecliptic) the earth/sun reaches the minimum/maximum declination i.e. it is at the minimum/maximum distance from the equator during its revolution of the sun at particular points of time. The maximum obliquity of the ecliptic has remained around 23°28' over the last couple of centuries. Therefore that is the maximum north/south declination that the sun/earth can attain these days during its journey via the ecliptic. On that declination depends the phenomenon of seasons, which is also directly responsible for increase/decrease in day/night durations. The sun attains the maximum northern declination of about 23° 27' on June 21. That means it is at a maximum northern distance from the equator on that date. That is thus the last day of the summer season when the day is the longest and varsha ritu starts. The sun (actually the earth) has then to stop for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond-- - before climbing down from that " high pedestal " of North declination! That fleeting moment is the real crucial moment and we can only " calculate " it correctly to some extent with our computers with microprocessor speeds in GHz that also only with the data from NASA and other overseas observatories and not from our panchanga-makers including the Rashtriya Panchanga! This very moment of " U-turn " in the declination of the sun is the real dakshinayana as the earth has reached the maximum declination of south or the sun the maximum declination of north viz. 23° 27' and has to turn back from there. This is also known as Karkata Sankranti of the sun as the sun lies directly over the tropic of Cancer (Karka-Rekha) on that date. I am sure everybody has read that much of geography in his primary school days! There cannot be any other Karkata Sankranti as per any shastra or sidhanta or modern astronomy/geography since there is no other Karka Rekha (Tropic of Cancer) or any other longest day of the year! Similar is the case on December 21, when the sun reaches the maximum south declination (of around 23° 27') i.e. when the sun is at a maximum southern distance from the equator. It has to stop then for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond again--- before " turning " back (U-turn!) from that high pedestal. That fleeting moment is the real Uttarayana of the sun known as Makara Sankranti since the sun is directly on the tropic of Capricorn--- Makara-Rekha- --on that date. There is absolutely no other Makara Sankranti either as per the shastras or sidhantas or modern astronomy/geography since there is no other Makara-Rekha nor any other shortest day of the year! That also is primary school level geography! Similarly, during its sojourn around the sun; the earth, the equator and the ecliptic join together for a fleeting moment---here also less than a nanosecond-- when the longitude, latitude, declination and right ascension of the sun/earth are zero! The sun (actually the earth) is in exact " conjunction " with the ecliptic and the equator! It is thus a " Triveni " and that is the moment of Spring Equinox. With the declination of the sun being zero degrees South it has to start moving away (cross the equator) again from that " conjunction of the equator " from that moment of zero degrees longitude-cum- latitude- cum-declination- cum-right ascension! It proceeds towards Northern declination and it is known as Uttaragola. That fleeting moment is Vishuva – Mesha Sankranti of the sun (Tula Sankranti of the earth)! It is Vishuva because the earth is conjunct with the Vishuvat Rekha i.e. the Equator. That is the moment when days and nights are really equal throughout the globe. That is the zero " moment/point " for all the calculations of longitude, Right Ascension, Declination etc. and it is known as Vernal Equinox. Vishuva also means, as per Jayaratha, the commentator of Tantraloka, the days when " days and nights are equal " . Spring Equinox also means the same thing i.e Equi-nox: day is equal to night in the midst of the spring season! This is the real Vaishakhi and the sun enters Uttara Gola then i.e. it starts gaining in northern declination! There is no other Vishuvat Rekha (Equator) with which the earth can be " conjunct " during Spring and therefore there cannot be any other Vishuva or Mesha Sankranti since day and night are not equal during Spring on any other day. All the panchangakars list Uttara-gola on that date but then why do they want us to celebrate Vaishakhi/Vaishakha di/Meshadi i.e. solar New Year on April 14/15!   Because they know that we do not know ABC of geography! Or is it that they do not know it themselves? Then again after six months of that phenomenon, a similar situation comes again, when the longitude and Right ascension of the sun are 180 degrees (earth zero degrees). The longitude of the sun also can be taken as zero degrees on that date if we measure it from Autumn Equinox instead of from Vernal Equinox! The equator, the earth and the ecliptic have a confluence for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond-- -again! As the earth is conjunct the equator i.e. Vishuvat Rekha again, it is also known as Vishuva----Autumn Equinox (Jala Vishuva or Tula Sankranti) around September 23. It is the midpoint (second month) of the Sharat-ritu. (That is why Sharadiya Navaratras should start with the first Shukla Pratipat after Sharat Ritu starts---on September 15 in 2004—and not when Sharat-kala is almost over—October 14, 2004----as is being done by our panchangamakers) . The declination of the sun is zero degrees at that particular moment. Again, all the panchangakars list it as " the sun enters dakshina gola " as the sun (after crossing the Equator) starts gaining southern declination from that moment. There cannot be any other Tula Sankranti/Jala Vishuva as the earth is not conjunct Equator---and thus the day and night are not equal---on any other day in Autumn! But then these panchangakars make us celebrate Tula Sankranti on October 14/15! Why? Only because they will lose their sinful crumbs if the tell us the facts! Or is it that they do not know the facts themselves? A sad state of affairs, in either case! Naturally, in ancient times, it was almost impossible for ordinary mortals to calculate accurately to the nearest minute, leave alone the nearest second, such phenomena as lasted hardly for nanoseconds! Really, hats off to our Rishis! Obviously, our present " Vamadevas " and " Parasharas " who advocate such Mesha etc. sankrantis as do not exist at all, are a slur on the real Rishis and such fakes must be banished without delay from this land of real Rishis. ***                                      Â\     *****                                     Â\   *****                              The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dear friends,I have two questions. One to Jyotirved and the other to Darshaneyji.1)Jyotirved is saying that there is only one Makar Rekha when he says "There is absolutely no other Makar rekha". Will Jyotirved tell the members where he found the reference to the "Makar rekha" in the ancient shastras?2)Will Darshaneyji tell the members when according to the Brahmanas (integral part of the Vedas) the Mahashivaratri was observed from the ancient times? This will be an acid-test for his calendar.Regards,Sunil K. BhattacharjyaRegards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Fri, 11/13/09, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote:jyotirved <jyotirved[VRI] FW: MeshadI & Tuladiindian_astrology_group_daily_digest , , vedic_research_institute , usbrahmins Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:34 AM darshaney lokesh [darshaneylo kesh (AT) (DOT) co.in] Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:30 PM Krishen Cc: Hindu Calander Re: MeshadI & Tuladi Respected Kaul ji, Namastey. . >I received today your post with cuttings from Amar Ujala and Dainik Jagran .There appears to be a steady uneasy feeling in the minds of general public that they are really celebrating their festivals on worng days. I am sure it will gather momentum and ultimately, "satyam eva jayate nanrtiam" * Of course! As ‘Sarthee of the Satya’ (Satyya ke saarthee ke roop men) dedicated for doing that. The enclosed cuttings have been sent to more than 200 astrologers and panchanga makers since those were giving nice coverage of the Chandausi Sammelan of Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti, >Regarding the post "Meshadi & Tuladi", I think it is the one that I am copying below from Hinducalendar forum. Pl. let me know. *Definitely, it is the same. It is to also let you know that the famous and quite relevant MATTHAADESH of Samvat 1929 is being reproduced in the SMKATP -2067 along with three foot notes asking to the present param poojya shree that- 1. The said MATTHAADESH is still standing or cancelled? 2. If yes, then let us know the draft matter of the cancellation of the MATTHAADESH. 3. If not, then how the Panchangas are being observed and how the Festivals are being observed by the loyal devotees of the respected MATH. It is also brought in the notice of all concerning learned members of this group that Sri Mohan Krity Arsh Tithi Patrak -2066, 2067 have been sent to almost all the MATHS through the Patrone, Shri Rahimal Prasad Tivari, Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti and following to that, Poojya Shankaracharya ji of Kanchipuram had called on me to his Ashram.. The invitation was replied back asking for clear agenda of the meeting. Further reply from his holiness is awaited. I hope members will appreceiate and encourage my action. This is in reply to an another mail received from you. Thanks. Aum Sham. Darshaney Lokesh Genl Secretary, Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti, Greater Noida, UP 201310 ************ ********* ********* ** 7. Primary School level Geography: Let us see the situation in the light of modern astronomy/geography . Initially, I was myself peeved as to why the ayana and vishuva (Makara, Mesha, Karkata and Tula) sankrantis had been praised to the skies by our Rishis, so much so that they say that it is difficult even for yogis to catch the actual moment of such sankrantis and any charities or fasts on such occasions yield thousand-fold results! Let me explain it in a manner that is as non-technical as possible: We know that the earth hurtles around the sun at about 30 kilometers per second. (2) It also rotates on its axis, causing days and nights (3) The equator is "precessing" at tremendous speeds. (4) Because the ecliptic is inclined to the equator (obliquity of ecliptic) the earth/sun reaches the minimum/maximum declination i.e. it is at the minimum/maximum distance from the equator during its revolution of the sun at particular points of time. The maximum obliquity of the ecliptic has remained around 23°28' over the last couple of centuries. Therefore that is the maximum north/south declination that the sun/earth can attain these days during its journey via the ecliptic. On that declination depends the phenomenon of seasons, which is also directly responsible for increase/decrease in day/night durations. The sun attains the maximum northern declination of about 23° 27' on June 21. That means it is at a maximum northern distance from the equator on that date. That is thus the last day of the summer season when the day is the longest and varsha ritu starts. The sun (actually the earth) has then to stop for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond-- - before climbing down from that "high pedestal" of North declination! That fleeting moment is the real crucial moment and we can only "calculate" it correctly to some extent with our computers with microprocessor speeds in GHz that also only with the data from NASA and other overseas observatories and not from our panchanga-makers including the Rashtriya Panchanga! This very moment of "U-turn" in the declination of the sun is the real dakshinayana as the earth has reached the maximum declination of south or the sun the maximum declination of north viz. 23° 27' and has to turn back from there. This is also known as Karkata Sankranti of the sun as the sun lies directly over the tropic of Cancer (Karka-Rekha) on that date. I am sure everybody has read that much of geography in his primary school days! There cannot be any other Karkata Sankranti as per any shastra or sidhanta or modern astronomy/geography since there is no other Karka Rekha (Tropic of Cancer) or any other longest day of the year! Similar is the case on December 21, when the sun reaches the maximum south declination (of around 23° 27') i.e. when the sun is at a maximum southern distance from the equator. It has to stop then for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond again--- before "turning" back (U-turn!) from that high pedestal. That fleeting moment is the real Uttarayana of the sun known as Makara Sankranti since the sun is directly on the tropic of Capricorn--- Makara-Rekha- --on that date. There is absolutely no other Makara Sankranti either as per the shastras or sidhantas or modern astronomy/geography since there is no other Makara-Rekha nor any other shortest day of the year! That also is primary school level geography! Similarly, during its sojourn around the sun; the earth, the equator and the ecliptic join together for a fleeting moment---here also less than a nanosecond-- when the longitude, latitude, declination and right ascension of the sun/earth are zero! The sun (actually the earth) is in exact "conjunction" with the ecliptic and the equator! It is thus a "Triveni" and that is the moment of Spring Equinox. With the declination of the sun being zero degrees South it has to start moving away (cross the equator) again from that "conjunction of the equator" from that moment of zero degrees longitude-cum- latitude- cum-declination- cum-right ascension! It proceeds towards Northern declination and it is known as Uttaragola. That fleeting moment is Vishuva – Mesha Sankranti of the sun (Tula Sankranti of the earth)! It is Vishuva because the earth is conjunct with the Vishuvat Rekha i.e. the Equator. That is the moment when days and nights are really equal throughout the globe. That is the zero "moment/point" for all the calculations of longitude, Right Ascension, Declination etc. and it is known as Vernal Equinox. Vishuva also means, as per Jayaratha, the commentator of Tantraloka, the days when "days and nights are equal". Spring Equinox also means the same thing i.e Equi-nox: day is equal to night in the midst of the spring season! This is the real Vaishakhi and the sun enters Uttara Gola then i.e. it starts gaining in northern declination! There is no other Vishuvat Rekha (Equator) with which the earth can be "conjunct" during Spring and therefore there cannot be any other Vishuva or Mesha Sankranti since day and night are not equal during Spring on any other day. All the panchangakars list Uttara-gola on that date but then why do they want us to celebrate Vaishakhi/Vaishakha di/Meshadi i.e. solar New Year on April 14/15! Because they know that we do not know ABC of geography! Or is it that they do not know it themselves? Then again after six months of that phenomenon, a similar situation comes again, when the longitude and Right ascension of the sun are 180 degrees (earth zero degrees). The longitude of the sun also can be taken as zero degrees on that date if we measure it from Autumn Equinox instead of from Vernal Equinox! The equator, the earth and the ecliptic have a confluence for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond-- -again! As the earth is conjunct the equator i.e. Vishuvat Rekha again, it is also known as Vishuva----Autumn Equinox (Jala Vishuva or Tula Sankranti) around September 23. It is the midpoint (second month) of the Sharat-ritu. (That is why Sharadiya Navaratras should start with the first Shukla Pratipat after Sharat Ritu starts---on September 15 in 2004—and not when Sharat-kala is almost over—October 14, 2004----as is being done by our panchangamakers) . The declination of the sun is zero degrees at that particular moment. Again, all the panchangakars list it as "the sun enters dakshina gola" as the sun (after crossing the Equator) starts gaining southern declination from that moment. There cannot be any other Tula Sankranti/Jala Vishuva as the earth is not conjunct Equator---and thus the day and night are not equal---on any other day in Autumn! But then these panchangakars make us celebrate Tula Sankranti on October 14/15! Why? Only because they will lose their sinful crumbs if the tell us the facts! Or is it that they do not know the facts themselves? A sad state of affairs, in either case! Naturally, in ancient times, it was almost impossible for ordinary mortals to calculate accurately to the nearest minute, leave alone the nearest second, such phenomena as lasted hardly for nanoseconds! Really, hats off to our Rishis! Obviously, our present "Vamadevas" and "Parasharas" who advocate such Mesha etc. sankrantis as do not exist at all, are a slur on the real Rishis and such fakes must be banished without delay from this land of real Rishis. *** ***** ***** The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Dear friends, Jai Shri Ram! <Jyotirved is saying that there is only one Makar Rekha when he says " There is absolutely no other Makar rekha " . Will Jyotirved tell the members where he found the reference to the " Makar rekha " in the ancient shastras?> Who told Shri Bhattacharjya that Makar Rekha is as per the shastras? Makar Rekha is a Sanskrit equivalent of Tropic of Capricorn which is a geographical term, and not a shastraic one! Geographically, there is only one Makar Rekha and the sun is supposed to reach that point on December 21, because that is the shortest day of the year! <Will Darshaneyji tell the members when according to the Brahmanas (integral part of the Vedas) the Mahashivaratri was observed from the ancient times? This will be an acid-test for his calendar.> As per the Shiva and Linga Purana etc., Maha Shivaratri is to be celebrated on nisheetha vyapini Krishna Paksha chaturdashi of Magha (mukhyamana---Gauna Phalguna). As per the Vedanga Jyotisha and all the Puranas, Magha Shukla paksha starts immediately after the Uttarayana day, i.e, Winter Solstice. The same Magha is also known as Tapas as per the VJ and Amarakosha and even as per Puranas etc. The first nisheetha Vyapini Krishna Chaturashi after that is therefore Maha shivaratri! Obviously, we are celebrating mahashivaratri not in Pauranic or Sidhantic or even the Vedic or the VJ Magha Krishna Chaturdashi, but only Lahiri Magha Krishna Chaturdashi, which is after one month of the real Shivaratri, thanks to " Vedic astrologers " . Jai Shri Ram A K Kaul , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > >  Dear friends, > > I have two questions. One to Jyotirved and the other to Darshaneyji. > 1) > Jyotirved is saying that there is only one Makar Rekha when he says " There is absolutely no other Makar rekha " . Will Jyotirved tell the members where he found the reference to the " Makar rekha " in the ancient shastras? > 2) > Will Darshaneyji tell the members when according to the Brahmanas (integral part of the Vedas) the Mahashivaratri was observed from the ancient times? This will be an acid-test for his calendar. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Fri, 11/13/09, jyotirved <jyotirved wrote: > > jyotirved <jyotirved > [VRI] FW: MeshadI & Tuladi > indian_astrology_group_daily_digest , , vedic_research_institute , usbrahmins > Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:34 AM >  > > > > > > > > > > >  > >  > > > > > > darshaney lokesh > [darshaneylo kesh (AT) (DOT) co.in] > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:30 PM > > Krishen > > Cc: Hindu Calander > > Re: MeshadI & Tuladi > > > > > >  >  >  > > Respected Kaul ji, > >           > Namastey. .  > > >I received today your post > with cuttings from Amar Ujala and Dainik Jagran .There appears to be a steady > uneasy feeling in the minds of general public that they are really celebrating > their festivals on worng days. I am sure it will gather momentum and ultimately, > " satyam eva jayate nanrtiam " > >   * Of course! > As ‘Sarthee of the Satya’ (Satyya ke saarthee ke roop men) dedicated for doing > that. The enclosed cuttings have been sent to more than 200 astrologers and > panchanga makers since those  were giving nice coverage of the Chandausi > Sammelan of Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti, > >     >Regarding > the post " Meshadi & Tuladi " , I think it is the one that I am > copying below from Hinducalendar forum. Pl. let me know. > >     > *Definitely, it is the same. > >       > It is to also let you know that the > famous and quite relevant MATTHAADESH of Samvat 1929 is being > reproduced in the SMKATP -2067 along with  three foot notes > asking to the present param poojya shree that- > >            > 1. The said MATTHAADESH is still > standing or cancelled? > >             2. > If yes, then let us know the draft matter of the cancellation of the >  MATTHAADESH. > >             3. > If not, then how the Panchangas are being observed and how the Festivals are > being observed by the loyal devotees of the respected MATH. > >             > It is also brought in the notice of all concerning learned members of this > group  that Sri Mohan Krity Arsh Tithi Patrak -2066, 2067 have been sent > to almost all the MATHS through the Patrone, Shri Rahimal Prasad Tivari, Akhil > Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti and following to that, Poojya Shankaracharya > ji of Kanchipuram had called on me to his Ashram.. The > invitation was  replied back asking for clear agenda of the meeting. > Further reply from his holiness is awaited. I hope members will appreceiate and > encourage my action. > >            > This is in reply to an another mail received from you. > >            > Thanks. Aum Sham. > >                                         \                                         \         Darshaney > Lokesh > >                                         \                                         \        Genl > Secretary, > >                                         \                                         \      > Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti, > >                                         \                                         \        Greater > Noida, UP 201310      > >       > > >  > >  ************ ********* ********* ** > > 7.        > Primary School level Geography:  > Let us see the situation in the light of modern astronomy/geography . > Initially, I was myself peeved as to why the ayana and vishuva (Makara, Mesha, > Karkata and Tula) sankrantis had been praised to the skies by our Rishis, so > much so that they say that it is difficult even for yogis to catch the actual > moment of such sankrantis and any charities or fasts on such occasions yield > thousand-fold results! > > Let me > explain it in a manner that is as non-technical as possible: > > We know > that the earth hurtles around the sun at about 30 kilometers per second. > (2) It also rotates on its axis, causing days and nights (3) The equator > is " precessing " at tremendous speeds. (4) Because the ecliptic > is inclined to the equator (obliquity of ecliptic) the earth/sun reaches the > minimum/maximum declination i.e. it is at the minimum/maximum distance from the > equator during its revolution of the sun at particular points of time. > The maximum obliquity of the ecliptic has remained around 23°28' over the last > couple of centuries. Therefore that is the maximum north/south > declination that the sun/earth can attain these days during its journey via the > ecliptic. On that declination depends the phenomenon of seasons, which is > also directly responsible for increase/decrease in day/night durations. > The sun attains the maximum northern declination of about 23° 27' on June > 21. That means it is at a maximum northern distance from the equator on > that date. That is thus the last day of the summer season when the day is the > longest and varsha ritu starts. The sun (actually the earth) has then to stop > for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond-- - before climbing down from > that " high pedestal " of North declination! That fleeting moment > is the real crucial moment and we can only " calculate " it correctly > to some extent with our computers with microprocessor speeds in GHz that also only > with the data from NASA and other overseas observatories and not from our > panchanga-makers including the Rashtriya Panchanga! This very moment of > " U-turn " in the declination of the sun is the real dakshinayana as > the earth has reached the maximum declination of south or the sun the maximum > declination of north viz. 23° 27' and has to turn back from there. This is also > known as Karkata Sankranti of the sun as the sun lies directly over the tropic > of Cancer (Karka-Rekha) on that date. I am sure everybody has read that > much of geography in his primary school days! There cannot be any other > Karkata Sankranti as per any shastra or sidhanta or modern astronomy/geography > since there is no other Karka Rekha (Tropic of Cancer) or any other longest day > of the year! > > Similar > is the case on December 21, when the sun reaches the maximum south declination > (of around 23° 27') i.e. when the sun is at a maximum southern distance from > the equator. It has to stop then for a fleeting moment---less than a nanosecond > again--- before " turning " back (U-turn!) from that high > pedestal. That fleeting moment is the real Uttarayana of the sun known as > Makara Sankranti since the sun is directly on the tropic of > Capricorn--- Makara-Rekha- --on that date. There is absolutely no other Makara > Sankranti either as per the shastras or sidhantas or modern astronomy/geography > since there is no other Makara-Rekha nor any other shortest day of the > year! That also is primary school level geography! > > Similarly, > during its sojourn around the sun; the earth, the equator and the ecliptic join > together for a fleeting moment---here also less than a nanosecond-- when the > longitude, latitude, declination and right ascension of the sun/earth are zero! > The sun (actually the earth) is in exact " conjunction " with the > ecliptic and the equator! It is thus a " Triveni " and that is the > moment of Spring Equinox. With the declination of the sun being zero > degrees South it has to start moving away (cross the equator) again from that > " conjunction of the equator " from that moment of zero degrees > longitude-cum- latitude- cum-declination- cum-right ascension! It proceeds > towards Northern declination and it is known as Uttaragola. That fleeting > moment is Vishuva †" Mesha Sankranti of the sun (Tula Sankranti of the earth)! > It is Vishuva because the earth is conjunct with the Vishuvat Rekha i.e. the > Equator. That is the moment when days and nights are really equal throughout > the globe. > > That is > the zero " moment/point " for all the calculations of longitude, Right > Ascension, Declination etc. and it is known as Vernal Equinox. Vishuva > also means, as per Jayaratha, the commentator of Tantraloka, the days > when " days and nights are equal " . Spring Equinox also means the > same thing i.e Equi-nox: day is equal to night in the midst of the spring > season! This is the real Vaishakhi and the sun enters Uttara Gola then i.e. it > starts gaining in northern declination! There is no other Vishuvat Rekha > (Equator) with which the earth can be " conjunct " during Spring and > therefore there cannot be any other Vishuva or Mesha Sankranti since day and > night are not equal during Spring on any other day. All the panchangakars > list Uttara-gola on that date but then why do they want us to celebrate > Vaishakhi/Vaishakha di/Meshadi i.e. solar New Year on April 14/15!   Because > they know that we do not know ABC of geography! Or is it that they do not > know it themselves? > > Then > again after six months of that phenomenon, a similar situation comes again, > when the longitude and Right ascension of the sun are 180 degrees (earth zero > degrees). The longitude of the sun also can be taken as zero degrees on > that date if we measure it from Autumn Equinox instead of from Vernal Equinox! > The equator, the earth and the ecliptic have a confluence for a fleeting > moment---less than a nanosecond-- -again! As the earth is conjunct the > equator i.e. Vishuvat Rekha again, it is also known as Vishuva----Autumn > Equinox (Jala Vishuva or Tula Sankranti) around September 23. It is the > midpoint (second month) of the Sharat-ritu. (That is why Sharadiya Navaratras > should start with the first Shukla Pratipat after Sharat Ritu starts---on > September 15 in 2004†" and not when Sharat-kala is almost over†" October 14, > 2004----as is being done by our panchangamakers) . > > The > declination of the sun is zero degrees at that particular moment. Again, > all the panchangakars list it as " the sun enters dakshina gola " as > the sun (after crossing the Equator) starts gaining southern declination from > that moment. There cannot be any other Tula Sankranti/Jala Vishuva as the > earth is not conjunct Equator---and thus the day and night are not equal---on > any other day in Autumn! But then these panchangakars make us celebrate Tula > Sankranti on October 14/15! Why? Only because they will lose > their sinful crumbs if the tell us the facts! Or is it that they do not > know the facts themselves? A sad state of affairs, in either case! > > Naturally, > in ancient times, it was almost impossible for ordinary mortals to calculate > accurately to the nearest minute, leave alone the nearest second, such > phenomena as lasted hardly for nanoseconds! Really, hats off to our > Rishis! Obviously, our present " Vamadevas " and > " Parasharas " who advocate such Mesha etc. sankrantis as do not exist > at all, are a slur on the real Rishis and such fakes must be banished without > delay from this land of real Rishis. > > ***                                      Â\     > *****                                     Â\   > *****                            >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See > your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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