Fwd: Was Ramayana copied from Homer, Gilgamesh etc?

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hinducivilization , " Vedaprakash " <vedamvedaprakash

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Ramayana and Gilamesh

 

The western scholars have been repeating the refuted hypotheses again

and again to establish their baseless interpretation. Though, K. T.

Telang refuted Albrecht Weber, D. C. Boyd and others, the story of

" Valmiki copying from Homer " is repeated after 135 years. After

such stories, now the " Gilgamesh " is added.

 

The claims of " Gilgamesh " have to be studied by Indians

carefully. My comments are given in red colour. I request the learned

member of the group offer critical comments and help in getting more

details.

 

6 The historical Gilgamesh was a Sumerian king of Uruk around 2700

B.C.

 

6 First, the date was determined astronomically and later the found

archaeological evidences were matched with it. Thus, Indians could also

date the Kings accordingly and place them in the pre and post-Mahabharat

period.

 

6 Sumerian fragments of the legend that grew up around him have

been found dating back to about 2000 BC.

 

6 Note how the " fragments " of the " legend " grew up

and it is dated to 2000 BCE. However, " Indian full length literature

/ Iihasas " should grew only after c.350 BCE! This only for biblical

interpretation. Biblical / theological scholars take it to c.3000 BCE.

 

6 The most complete version of the story comes from twelve clay

tablets in Akkadian copied by Shin-eqi-unninni around the seventh

century B.C.

 

6 Note how the " seventh century BCE " evidence is taken to

assert the 2000 / 3000 BCE date. The so-called tablets have been

completely damaged and only fragments have been deciphered and the story

has been cast.

 

6 They were found in the ruins of the Library of Ashurbanipal of

Nineveh and, like the earlier Sumerian tablets, were written in the

" wedge-shaped " script known as cuneiform.

 

6 Persians had destroyed it completely and the claim of

" library " is to lend some sort of " authority " and

" authenticity " among the sholars. Anyway, if " such advanced

people " as they claim could have had only " the tablets " as

" books " in their so-called " library " , it has to be

studied thoroughly. By the way, how many " libraries " , Indians

should have had on the banks of different rivers. When so many

conferences were held in the Naimisaranya, how many books would have

been discussed and debated?

 

6 A summary of the story derived from these tablets on the

University of Washington's World Cultures Home Page maintained by

Richard Hooker at http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/GILG.HTM

<http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/GILG.HTM>

 

6 One can see the damaged nature of tablets with cuneiform writings

on it.

 

6 The fullest surviving version, from which the summary here is

taken, is derived from twelve stone tablets, in the Akkadian language,

found in the ruins of the library of Ashurbanipal, king of Assyria

669-633 B.C., at Nineveh. The library was destroyed by the Persians in

612 B.C., and all the tablets are damaged.

http://www.mythome.org/Gilgamesh.html

<http://www.mythome.org/Gilgamesh.html>

 

6 The fact is accepted.

 

6 1500 to 500 BCE: The dating of Genesis is uncertain, since the

preservation of papyri is not nearly as good as that of stone. Liberal

scholars place the date between 1,500 and 500 B.C., although the events

are claimed to have occurred several thousand years earlier.

 

6 Note the lower limit going down to c.500 BCE!

 

6 How the dating is done? National Geographic Society

explorer-in-residence Robert Ballard and his team have discovered

evidence that humans once lived in an area now covered by the Black Sea

north of Turkey:

 

* The mixture of freshwater shells and saltwater shells in the area

indicates that the present saltwater sea was once a freshwater lake.

* Indications of an ancient coastline under the Black Sea suggest

that the land once extended miles farther than the present coastline.

* The discovery of a structure similar to those built during the

Stone Age indicates that the submerged land was once inhabited by

people.

 

6 Why in India such methods are not applied? We know that the

" Flood tradition " has been the ancient in India and it has been

accepted by the western scholars also. So if could date the samples of

water or vegetation, then naturally the date of them could be matched

with c.3100 BCE (Mahabharat period) or C.4400 BCE (Ramayana period).

 

6 Ballard has proposed a theory that the area was suddenly

submerged by a great flood—perhaps the flood described in the

Biblical story of Noah's Ark or in the Mesopotamian text, the Gilgamesh

Epic. Ballard's team hopes to get permission from the Turkish government

to take a sample of the wooden artifacts they have discovered. They

could then perform a carbon dating test to determine if this human

settlement indeed fits into the timeline of Noah and the Biblical flood.

Read the following also from the website:

 

Is the Biblical Flood Account a Modified Copy of

 

the Epic of Gilgamesh?

by Rich Deem <http://www.godandscience.org/contact.php>

 

6 So to uphold the biblical myth only, they work always

" scientifically " correlating and corroborating the existing

evidences.

 

6 Ramayana was inspired by Gligamesh.

Reading of " Gligamesh " shows has no correlation with Valmiki

Ramayana, as the characters Gilgamesh, Aruru, Enkidu, Humbaba, Isthar,

etc have no relevance with Ramayana. Therefore, to say that Valmiki was

inspired by Gilagamesh has no basis at all and it is only a wishful

thinking. The 12 tablet " small story " canot be a match for the

full length Itihasa. Thus, it is evident that Ramayana should and could

have spread to west influencing Gilgamesh. Then, the dating of Ramayana

goes back to c.3000 BCE. (it is stated just for argument).

 

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