Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Dear Devisingh ji and all, There is nothing much to see here, I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will give in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is enough. There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much of using brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big thesis. Just nothing more is required. We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will do to the marriage part . If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be compatibility problems in the marriage. If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again there are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in the relationships. But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then it is most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun antardasha please). How to obtain above results I have already explained several times in the past in this Group. I will not repeat. The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die immediately after birth. Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other factors. Last segment - Will have a child (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun antardasha) regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > > * " Energy Distribution " * > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which distributed to 12 > houses of matters > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places negative. > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other planets > aspects and other factors. > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy positive and > negative. > after looking this distribution we can come up with reasoning that suits > best for all this distribution > > > * " Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign " * > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell very less > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to 7th house > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th house) and > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th (partnerships) so > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to work and > religious deeds. > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and Religious/Prosperity > matters > > * " Scorpion " * > As Native has Scorpion Sun ....so certainly he has this energy ....he is > scorpion > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga " Energy > > Distribution " . Can you please explain us what is this ? > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign, and you > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what departments? Will > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her husband > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in what sense > > actually ? > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still remains > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in what way will it > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not help the native > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or known as a > > Scorpion ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Thanks tripathi ji.Anita--- On Mon, 23/11/09, jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:jyotish <astrologer_mrutyunjay Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Date: Monday, 23 November, 2009, 11:34 AM Dear friend, Lagna lord in 7th or Upachaya houses to 7th....partner dominating. 7th lord in lagna..or upachaya to lagna...partner submissive. This is the principle base on house, that overrides the principle based on malefic/benefic nature of planets. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, > I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort.. > Regards, > Anita The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,Perhaps , as it is expected in astrology, it helps that they have those combination in both the horoscopes. SOme times I wonder at the two opposite sayings " Like poles repel and unlike poles attract" on one side and "birds of a feather flock together" on the other.More importantly, in my personal opinion, and this has nothing to do with astrology, when both have jobs or one has a stressful job, having space and lots of space in a marriage is always helpful in keeping it healthy. Is it not? At least I need lots of space.Regards, Anita--- On Mon, 23/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Date: Monday, 23 November, 2009, 12:03 PM Dear Anita ji, Text Book Rules are meant just for knowledge of what can be with a particular placement or combination somewhere BUT these rules must be applied in absence of any other influences influencing this placement or combination. For instance we all know that a Leo Lagna will be a Fiery personality. But what happens when the Moon is situated in the Lagna, and the Sun goes in Cancer ? Will not the fire become less fiery and depleted ? Or same with saturn or Ketu coming to sit in the Lagna Leo? In same manner its not necessary that Sun in 7th will cause problems in marital Life, or divorce or dominations etc. The result has to be assessed in totality. Presently I am in Jaipur and I know a couple who both have Sun and Mars in their 7th houses, but are a perfect couple and both earning between 15-25 lakhs per Month(not annum) as Professionals in their respective areas.I cannot of course disclose their names or Profession but both of them are normally away from each other for more than 15 days a month due to their profession which takes one of them to touring extensively all over the world/India. And they have been married since 10 years, and still a lovey dovey couple. If a genuine assessment is made then I would say that the wife overshadows her husband, but only till a tolerable limit. Therefore statements thrown in the air , about dictums which are to be applied in isolations, are of no avail normally. Do not look much deep than necessary in such statements. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, > I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort.. > Regards, > Anita > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dear Manoj ji,That is a fine way of looking at it. But tell me, how many of us are really aware about what exactly are the lessons we have to learn in life, what lessons we have COME to learn.? A few astrologers like some of our members here and some learners like me who have consulted astrologers for the sole purpose of trying to find out what lessons I have come here to this world to learn, would be aware of these things. My god ! this discussion about Sun in the 7th in scorpio appears to be moving away from astrology into philosophy!!!!Regards, Anita--- On Mon, 23/11/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Date: Monday, 23 November, 2009, 6:11 PM Anita Ji, One has to look deeper, some times external appearance of dominance can be over compensation for the other spouse being the real decision maker. Once again if there is Jupiter aspect on the Sun/7H and/or 7L then the dominance will be a subtle and kind one, not an aggressive one. If Sun is in a friend's sign or enemy's sign also needs to be considered. In general some one with Sun in 7H has to develop the ability to give importance to others' points of view in this life time, some thing that was probably neglected in previous life times. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, November 23, 2009 4:14:20 AMRE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Hi,I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort..Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 22/11/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique"'ancient_indian_ astrology'" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 11:22 AM Dear Friends, If I remember correctly, the result attributed to Sun in 7th was discussed in detail by Sreenadh-ji. The relevant summary was available in the 'Files'. It was more like... "Results of Sun in various houses." Along with reference from various classics. The person should get dominated by spouse and he/she should have a changeable taste in food. Will be having dis-satisfaction. Will be having the feeling that his/her talents are not being recognized. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuSunday, November 22, 2009 4:40 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique dear Anitaji, Sun in the 7th house of the native will have a spouse who will be very much dominating on the native. regards, k.gopu--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySunday, November 22, 2009, 10:05 AM Dear Devi singh ji,You are talking of sun in 7th benefiting the spouse according to western or easter astrology?Because I am getting doubts since some time back in this very forum, there was a discussion going on about sun in 7th being detrimental to the interest of the spouse. Some one had posted a horoscope of a man with sun in 7th whose wife had committed suicide...Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 21/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:11 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,My understanding is as below."sun in scorpio and in 7th house will help native's wife""moon in scorpio and in 4th house will help native's mother"------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Thank you for the inputs. The effects of the Sun , Moon and Lagna would vary in Scorpio. For instance what is this mix going to produce ? The Sun, a Hot fiery Planet, in a Fixed but watery sign (Scorpio)? Imagine - A Red Hot Fire tong coming straight after being baked in the Fire, in the fingers of a Doctor , coming to land on the boil on the skin which has developed pus. Now if this Sun sign is Scorpio but this is placed in the 7th house, then whom do you think will be like this? The native or his wife ???? Ponder, think and let me know. What about Moon in Scorpio ? A watery planet in a watery sign ? Why is it debeilitated here ? What are the effects here to the native with such a Mooon ?Suppose it appears in the 4th house then will the results be attributed to the mother or to the native ? Ponder, think and let me know. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > my views are as below.> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> his aatma/Ego is like scorpian so he always want to act as scorpian if > get chance as master> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> his mind is scorpian so he will think like scorpian and act in case he > is slave and may not act in case he is master> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> People perception was always that he is scorpian> > first clarification required where he want to act and then we can figure > out the vary nature of that jatak> > only looking at above mentions details one can say but that is not > justification there is more then this as well to see.> > ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Bhaskar wrote:> > > >> >> > Dear Anita ji and all,> >> > Please let me have your views -> >> > A person with -> >> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> >> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> >> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> >> > Among above what should be the deciding factor to call him a Scorpio> > nativity or a Scorpion, or Librian or Arien or whatever ?> >> > Or is there any other factor also contributing to the above....> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, Anita R > > ash.rsh55@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > Belated birthday greetings to you. Sun sign is scorpio is it? Ah> > ah...I am a scorpio too.> > > god bless you and shower you all the good things in life.> > > Love,> > > Anita> > >> > > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:> > >> > > Sheevani sheevani147@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A> > prediction technique> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 1:14 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Happy Belated Birthday greetings to you. May Health, Wealth , Sucesss> > and Happiness last throughout your long fulfilling life.> > >> > >> > >> > > warmest regards> > >> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" sreesog@> > > wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Dear Gopi ji,> > >> > > > I don't know the Birth details of my friend. I will request the> > same, and if he provides and permits, I will share it here. My Birth> > details are known to many - 1971 Nov 18; 2.54 AM; Trivandrum, Kerala.> > Virgo Lagna, Libra Moon sign, Visakha Nakshatra. > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > Sreenadh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > > > nice thoughts indeed.I know there are highly learned kerala> > astrologers> > >> > > > > like in andhra.Unfortunatel y as you mentioned they are not good> > in> > >> > > > > english and net sauvy.I would like to have your friend's birth> > details> > >> > > > > if you have and dont mind sharing.You can send to my> > Email.Incidentally> > >> > > > > i would like to have your own as well.> > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > > gopi.> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > http://in./ . com/ <http://in.. com/>> > >> >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dear Anita ji, In astrology as well as real Life it is " Birds of the same feather which flock together " . Like poles repel is just for the magnets and not for human souls and hearts and where Love is concerned. If anyone paid me Rs. 1 Crore and asked me to marry an African Black woman 6 feet tall, with huge Lips, and short beaded hair with skull showing through the hair on the head, I could not do it at any rewards given. So unlike actually repels. Which is why people in all cultures want principally to marry their children in their own Caste, family, cultures etc . In astrology too when Mars is there in lagna in both Husband and wifes charts, the Dosha gets cancelled isnt it ? If this does not happen then one with a strong or afflicted Mars would always tend to dominate his better half causing disruptions in the marriage Life, in process. Same with Sun in the 7th. If both have it, then it is cancelled. I am not sure about giving space and other such matters. I remember I have an uncle who was very adventurous in his young days , used to practise real shooting, and going to fields and giving parties and what not and he always used to tell us that stay away from your wife for a week and when you come back look at the reception you receive from her. I have seen him since last 30 years staying away for most of the part on business tours etc. and coming home for only to stay for a weeks time collectively in a month. What happened ? Today their state is such that they both sleep in seperate rooms since last 10 years, and always speak in criticising and complaining tones about each other and cannot sit silently near each other for more than half an hour at the most. Thank God I did not listen to his advices and am happier. My wife is a Scorpio Lagna with Mars in lagna, and me a Leo Lagna with Mars and Rahu in Lagna. We fight with each other more than normal couples do, but the understanding too is greater than normal couples. Hope the above was an astrological mail as well as otherwise, so one need not complain about Bhaskar writing all nonsense. regards/Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Perhaps , as it is expected in astrology, it helps that they have those combination in both the horoscopes. SOme times I wonder at the two opposite sayings " Like poles repel and unlike poles attract " on one side and " birds of a feather flock together " on the other. > > More importantly, in my personal opinion, and this has nothing to do with astrology, when both have jobs or one has a stressful job, having space and lots of space in a marriage is always helpful in keeping it healthy. Is it not? At least I need lots of space. > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Mon, 23/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > > Monday, 23 November, 2009, 12:03 PM > Â > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > Text Book Rules are meant just for knowledge of what can be with a > > particular placement or combination somewhere BUT these rules must be > > applied in absence of any other influences influencing this placement or > > combination. > > > > For instance we all know that a Leo Lagna will be a Fiery personality. > > But what happens when the Moon is situated in the Lagna, and the Sun > > goes in Cancer ? Will not the fire become less fiery and depleted ? Or > > same with saturn or Ketu coming to sit in the Lagna Leo? > > > > In same manner its not necessary that Sun in 7th will cause problems in > > marital Life, or divorce or dominations etc. The result has to be > > assessed in totality. Presently I am in Jaipur and I know a couple who > > both have Sun and Mars in their 7th houses, but are a perfect couple and > > both earning between 15-25 lakhs per Month(not annum) as Professionals > > in their respective areas.I cannot of course disclose their names or > > Profession but both of them are normally away from each other for more > > than 15 days a month due to their profession which takes one of them to > > touring extensively all over the world/India. And they have been married > > since 10 years, and still a lovey dovey couple. If a genuine assessment > > is made then I would say that the wife overshadows her husband, but only > > till a tolerable limit. > > > > Therefore statements thrown in the air , about dictums which are to be > > applied in isolations, are of no avail normally. Do not look much deep > > than necessary in such statements. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he > > completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort.. > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dear Anita Ji, Jyotish is entirely based on the "philosophy" of Karma. Without it Jyotish becomes Null and Void. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 6:44:18 AMRe: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Manoj ji,That is a fine way of looking at it. But tell me, how many of us are really aware about what exactly are the lessons we have to learn in life, what lessons we have COME to learn.? A few astrologers like some of our members here and some learners like me who have consulted astrologers for the sole purpose of trying to find out what lessons I have come here to this world to learn, would be aware of these things. My god ! this discussion about Sun in the 7th in scorpio appears to be moving away from astrology into philosophy!! !!Regards, Anita--- On Mon, 23/11/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 23 November, 2009, 6:11 PM Anita Ji, One has to look deeper, some times external appearance of dominance can be over compensation for the other spouse being the real decision maker. Once again if there is Jupiter aspect on the Sun/7H and/or 7L then the dominance will be a subtle and kind one, not an aggressive one. If Sun is in a friend's sign or enemy's sign also needs to be considered. In general some one with Sun in 7H has to develop the ability to give importance to others' points of view in this life time, some thing that was probably neglected in previous life times. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, November 23, 2009 4:14:20 AMRE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Hi,I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort..Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 22/11/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique"'ancient_indian_ astrology'" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 11:22 AM Dear Friends, If I remember correctly, the result attributed to Sun in 7th was discussed in detail by Sreenadh-ji. The relevant summary was available in the 'Files'. It was more like... "Results of Sun in various houses." Along with reference from various classics. The person should get dominated by spouse and he/she should have a changeable taste in food. Will be having dis-satisfaction. Will be having the feeling that his/her talents are not being recognized. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuSunday, November 22, 2009 4:40 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique dear Anitaji, Sun in the 7th house of the native will have a spouse who will be very much dominating on the native. regards, k.gopu--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySunday, November 22, 2009, 10:05 AM Dear Devi singh ji,You are talking of sun in 7th benefiting the spouse according to western or easter astrology?Because I am getting doubts since some time back in this very forum, there was a discussion going on about sun in 7th being detrimental to the interest of the spouse. Some one had posted a horoscope of a man with sun in 7th whose wife had committed suicide...Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 21/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:11 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,My understanding is as below."sun in scorpio and in 7th house will help native's wife""moon in scorpio and in 4th house will help native's mother"------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Thank you for the inputs. The effects of the Sun , Moon and Lagna would vary in Scorpio. For instance what is this mix going to produce ? The Sun, a Hot fiery Planet, in a Fixed but watery sign (Scorpio)? Imagine - A Red Hot Fire tong coming straight after being baked in the Fire, in the fingers of a Doctor , coming to land on the boil on the skin which has developed pus. Now if this Sun sign is Scorpio but this is placed in the 7th house, then whom do you think will be like this? The native or his wife ???? Ponder, think and let me know. What about Moon in Scorpio ? A watery planet in a watery sign ? Why is it debeilitated here ? What are the effects here to the native with such a Mooon ?Suppose it appears in the 4th house then will the results be attributed to the mother or to the native ? Ponder, think and let me know. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > my views are as below.> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> his aatma/Ego is like scorpian so he always want to act as scorpian if > get chance as master> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> his mind is scorpian so he will think like scorpian and act in case he > is slave and may not act in case he is master> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> People perception was always that he is scorpian> > first clarification required where he want to act and then we can figure > out the vary nature of that jatak> > only looking at above mentions details one can say but that is not > justification there is more then this as well to see.> > ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Bhaskar wrote:> > > >> >> > Dear Anita ji and all,> >> > Please let me have your views -> >> > A person with -> >> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> >> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> >> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> >> > Among above what should be the deciding factor to call him a Scorpio> > nativity or a Scorpion, or Librian or Arien or whatever ?> >> > Or is there any other factor also contributing to the above....> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. com > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, Anita R > > ash.rsh55@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > Belated birthday greetings to you. Sun sign is scorpio is it? Ah> > ah...I am a scorpio too.> > > god bless you and shower you all the good things in life.> > > Love,> > > Anita> > >> > > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:> > >> > > Sheevani sheevani147@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A> > prediction technique> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 1:14 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Happy Belated Birthday greetings to you. May Health, Wealth , Sucesss> > and Happiness last throughout your long fulfilling life.> > >> > >> > >> > > warmest regards> > >> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" sreesog@> > > wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Dear Gopi ji,> > >> > > > I don't know the Birth details of my friend. I will request the> > same, and if he provides and permits, I will share it here. My Birth> > details are known to many - 1971 Nov 18; 2.54 AM; Trivandrum, Kerala.> > Virgo Lagna, Libra Moon sign, Visakha Nakshatra.. > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > Sreenadh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > > > nice thoughts indeed.I know there are highly learned kerala> > astrologers> > >> > > > > like in andhra.Unfortunatel y as you mentioned they are not good> > in> > >> > > > > english and net sauvy.I would like to have your friend's birth> > details> > >> > > > > if you have and dont mind sharing.You can send to my> > Email.Incidentally> > >> > > > > i would like to have your own as well.> > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > > gopi.> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hi,Can't imagine you marrying a tall, dark, helfty, curly haired, "not so handsome" afro. .Jokes apart, you do stay away from home occasionally on your work, that is enough and that is what I meant. I did not mean a long distance marriage. Like for eg NRI marriages with husband in some country and wife and children in some village or small town in india. Those fall apart most of the time. Incidentally, the queen and king of england too do not share a bed room as do some of my friends. Reasons being, different times of going to bed and rising up, one of them (mostly the man) snoring , one of them getting up too many times a night to hit the Loo... there are so many reasons... A husband and wife don;t have to fight to sleep in separate bedrooms..They have many more reasons to fight if they want to... All said and done, why husband and wife, if there is more than 1 person, disagreements cannot be avoided. THere are as many opinions and arguments as there are people in this world.... Right? Regards,Anita--- On Tue, 24/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Date: Tuesday, 24 November, 2009, 2:06 PM Dear Anita ji, In astrology as well as real Life it is "Birds of the same feather which flock together". Like poles repel is just for the magnets and not for human souls and hearts and where Love is concerned. If anyone paid me Rs. 1 Crore and asked me to marry an African Black woman 6 feet tall, with huge Lips, and short beaded hair with skull showing through the hair on the head, I could not do it at any rewards given. So unlike actually repels. Which is why people in all cultures want principally to marry their children in their own Caste, family, cultures etc . In astrology too when Mars is there in lagna in both Husband and wifes charts, the Dosha gets cancelled isnt it ? If this does not happen then one with a strong or afflicted Mars would always tend to dominate his better half causing disruptions in the marriage Life, in process. Same with Sun in the 7th. If both have it, then it is cancelled. I am not sure about giving space and other such matters. I remember I have an uncle who was very adventurous in his young days , used to practise real shooting, and going to fields and giving parties and what not and he always used to tell us that stay away from your wife for a week and when you come back look at the reception you receive from her. I have seen him since last 30 years staying away for most of the part on business tours etc. and coming home for only to stay for a weeks time collectively in a month. What happened ? Today their state is such that they both sleep in seperate rooms since last 10 years, and always speak in criticising and complaining tones about each other and cannot sit silently near each other for more than half an hour at the most. Thank God I did not listen to his advices and am happier. My wife is a Scorpio Lagna with Mars in lagna, and me a Leo Lagna with Mars and Rahu in Lagna. We fight with each other more than normal couples do, but the understanding too is greater than normal couples. Hope the above was an astrological mail as well as otherwise, so one need not complain about Bhaskar writing all nonsense. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Perhaps , as it is expected in astrology, it helps that they have those combination in both the horoscopes. SOme times I wonder at the two opposite sayings " Like poles repel and unlike poles attract" on one side and "birds of a feather flock together" on the other. > > More importantly, in my personal opinion, and this has nothing to do with astrology, when both have jobs or one has a stressful job, having space and lots of space in a marriage is always helpful in keeping it healthy. Is it not? At least I need lots of space. > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Mon, 23/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 23 November, 2009, 12:03 PM > Â > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > Text Book Rules are meant just for knowledge of what can be with a > > particular placement or combination somewhere BUT these rules must be > > applied in absence of any other influences influencing this placement or > > combination. > > > > For instance we all know that a Leo Lagna will be a Fiery personality. > > But what happens when the Moon is situated in the Lagna, and the Sun > > goes in Cancer ? Will not the fire become less fiery and depleted ? Or > > same with saturn or Ketu coming to sit in the Lagna Leo? > > > > In same manner its not necessary that Sun in 7th will cause problems in > > marital Life, or divorce or dominations etc. The result has to be > > assessed in totality. Presently I am in Jaipur and I know a couple who > > both have Sun and Mars in their 7th houses, but are a perfect couple and > > both earning between 15-25 lakhs per Month(not annum) as Professionals > > in their respective areas.I cannot of course disclose their names or > > Profession but both of them are normally away from each other for more > > than 15 days a month due to their profession which takes one of them to > > touring extensively all over the world/India. And they have been married > > since 10 years, and still a lovey dovey couple. If a genuine assessment > > is made then I would say that the wife overshadows her husband, but only > > till a tolerable limit. > > > > Therefore statements thrown in the air , about dictums which are to be > > applied in isolations, are of no avail normally. Do not look much deep > > than necessary in such statements. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he > > completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort.. > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Dear Anita ji, Nowadays the problems are common. It is better to stay away in two bedrooms than to cause commotions in one room. Nowadays the problems is Television, snoring and keeping Lights and AC on. The husband may want to watch a James Bond on Star Movies while the wife has to get up early in monring and already too tired and sleepy when she comes at bed. So cant blame her as well as the husband both. AC the husband may not like, but the wife likes, so what to do ? The husband may want to read and wants lights on, but she does not want. What to do ? The wife gets sleep earlier and the husband does not like her snoring. Some night the husband sleeps earlier and wife does not like his snoring. Bothcannot accept that they snore loudly. So what to do ? Instead of fighting its better to sleep in seperate bedrooms. I am also going to get one, as soon as I have enough money to buy a bigger flat. cheers, Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Hi, > Can't imagine you marrying a tall, dark, helfty, curly haired, " not so handsome " afro. . > Jokes apart, you do stay away from home occasionally on your work, that is enough and that is what I meant. I did not mean a long distance marriage. Like for eg NRI marriages with husband in some country and wife and children in some village or small town in india. Those fall apart most of the time. > Incidentally, the queen and king of england too do not share a bed room as do some of my friends. Reasons being, different times of going to bed and rising up, one of them (mostly the man) snoring , one of them getting up too many times a night to hit the Loo... there are so many reasons... A husband and wife don;t have to fight to sleep in separate bedrooms..They have many more reasons to fight if they want to... > All said and done, why husband and wife, if there is more than 1 person, disagreements cannot be avoided. THere are as many opinions and arguments as there are people in this world.... Right? > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Tue, 24/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > > Tuesday, 24 November, 2009, 2:06 PM >  > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > In astrology as well as real Life it is " Birds of the same feather which > > flock together " . Like poles repel is just for the magnets and not for > > human souls and hearts and where Love is concerned. If anyone paid me > > Rs. 1 Crore and asked me to marry an African Black woman 6 feet tall, > > with huge Lips, and short beaded hair with skull showing through the > > hair on the head, I could not do it at any rewards given. So unlike > > actually repels. Which is why people in all cultures want principally > > to marry their children in their own Caste, family, cultures etc . In > > astrology too when Mars is there in lagna in both Husband and wifes > > charts, the Dosha gets cancelled isnt it ? If this does not happen then > > one with a strong or afflicted Mars would always tend to dominate his > > better half causing disruptions in the marriage Life, in process. Same > > with Sun in the 7th. If both have it, then it is cancelled. > > > > I am not sure about giving space and other such matters. I remember I > > have an uncle who was very adventurous in his young days , used to > > practise real shooting, and going to fields and giving parties and what > > not and he always used to tell us that stay away from your wife for a > > week and when you come back look at the reception you receive from her. > > I have seen him since last 30 years staying away for most of the part on > > business tours etc. and coming home for only to stay for a weeks time > > collectively in a month. What happened ? Today their state is such that > > they both sleep in seperate rooms since last 10 years, and always speak > > in criticising and complaining tones about each other and cannot sit > > silently near each other for more than half an hour at the most. Thank > > God I did not listen to his advices and am happier. My wife is a Scorpio > > Lagna with Mars in lagna, and me a Leo Lagna with Mars and Rahu in > > Lagna. We fight with each other more than normal couples do, but the > > understanding too is greater than normal couples. > > > > Hope the above was an astrological mail as well as otherwise, so one > > need not complain about Bhaskar writing all nonsense. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Perhaps , as it is expected in astrology, it helps that they have > > those combination in both the horoscopes. SOme times I wonder at the two > > opposite sayings " Like poles repel and unlike poles attract " on one > > side and " birds of a feather flock together " on the other. > > > > > > More importantly, in my personal opinion, and this has nothing to do > > with astrology, when both have jobs or one has a stressful job, having > > space and lots of space in a marriage is always helpful in keeping it > > healthy. Is it not? At least I need lots of space. > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > --- On Mon, 23/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A > > prediction technique > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, 23 November, 2009, 12:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Text Book Rules are meant just for knowledge of what can be with a > > > > > > particular placement or combination somewhere BUT these rules must be > > > > > > applied in absence of any other influences influencing this placement > > or > > > > > > combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance we all know that a Leo Lagna will be a Fiery personality. > > > > > > But what happens when the Moon is situated in the Lagna, and the Sun > > > > > > goes in Cancer ? Will not the fire become less fiery and depleted ? Or > > > > > > same with saturn or Ketu coming to sit in the Lagna Leo? > > > > > > > > > > > > In same manner its not necessary that Sun in 7th will cause problems > > in > > > > > > marital Life, or divorce or dominations etc. The result has to be > > > > > > assessed in totality. Presently I am in Jaipur and I know a couple who > > > > > > both have Sun and Mars in their 7th houses, but are a perfect couple > > and > > > > > > both earning between 15-25 lakhs per Month(not annum) as Professionals > > > > > > in their respective areas.I cannot of course disclose their names or > > > > > > Profession but both of them are normally away from each other for more > > > > > > than 15 days a month due to their profession which takes one of them > > to > > > > > > touring extensively all over the world/India. And they have been > > married > > > > > > since 10 years, and still a lovey dovey couple. If a genuine > > assessment > > > > > > is made then I would say that the wife overshadows her husband, but > > only > > > > > > till a tolerable limit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore statements thrown in the air , about dictums which are to be > > > > > > applied in isolations, are of no avail normally. Do not look much deep > > > > > > than necessary in such statements. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ > > ..> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he > > > > > > completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort.. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Dear Friends, I did try with rotating the lagna technique. Some of these attempts were shared with Manoj Chandran-ji in a private mail (as I was not sure whether the members of AIA would welcome such methods). After Sreenadh-ji has come up with Sasanka Saradeeya, I again tried the methods (reverse counting for even signs) with the help of excel sheet provided. Following is a write up that includes the trial of .. a) BCP (forward counting for all signs) for 360 days / year b) -do for 365.242 days /year c) SS method for 360 days/ year d) -do for 365.242 days / year. I have not summarized the findings as I might be partial. And I have sensed that there might be some more hidden techniques in the method that I am not aware of. In addition, I did write about a random thought about construction of Navamsha. 'Hope that the write-up does get some readers. regards Chakraborty This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. 1 of 1 File(s) Lagna progression- AIA.docx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ha, ha, now you catch my point . Peace at any cost is worth it. Jai ho !!!Regards, Anita--- On Wed, 25/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Date: Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 5:31 AM Dear Anita ji, Nowadays the problems are common. It is better to stay away in two bedrooms than to cause commotions in one room. Nowadays the problems is Television, snoring and keeping Lights and AC on. The husband may want to watch a James Bond on Star Movies while the wife has to get up early in monring and already too tired and sleepy when she comes at bed. So cant blame her as well as the husband both. AC the husband may not like, but the wife likes, so what to do ? The husband may want to read and wants lights on, but she does not want. What to do ? The wife gets sleep earlier and the husband does not like her snoring. Some night the husband sleeps earlier and wife does not like his snoring. Bothcannot accept that they snore loudly. So what to do ? Instead of fighting its better to sleep in seperate bedrooms. I am also going to get one, as soon as I have enough money to buy a bigger flat. cheers, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, > Can't imagine you marrying a tall, dark, helfty, curly haired, "not so handsome" afro. . > Jokes apart, you do stay away from home occasionally on your work, that is enough and that is what I meant. I did not mean a long distance marriage. Like for eg NRI marriages with husband in some country and wife and children in some village or small town in india. Those fall apart most of the time. > Incidentally, the queen and king of england too do not share a bed room as do some of my friends. Reasons being, different times of going to bed and rising up, one of them (mostly the man) snoring , one of them getting up too many times a night to hit the Loo... there are so many reasons... A husband and wife don;t have to fight to sleep in separate bedrooms..They have many more reasons to fight if they want to... > All said and done, why husband and wife, if there is more than 1 person, disagreements cannot be avoided. THere are as many opinions and arguments as there are people in this world.... Right? > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Tue, 24/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, 24 November, 2009, 2:06 PM >  > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > In astrology as well as real Life it is "Birds of the same feather which > > flock together". Like poles repel is just for the magnets and not for > > human souls and hearts and where Love is concerned. If anyone paid me > > Rs. 1 Crore and asked me to marry an African Black woman 6 feet tall, > > with huge Lips, and short beaded hair with skull showing through the > > hair on the head, I could not do it at any rewards given. So unlike > > actually repels. Which is why people in all cultures want principally > > to marry their children in their own Caste, family, cultures etc . In > > astrology too when Mars is there in lagna in both Husband and wifes > > charts, the Dosha gets cancelled isnt it ? If this does not happen then > > one with a strong or afflicted Mars would always tend to dominate his > > better half causing disruptions in the marriage Life, in process. Same > > with Sun in the 7th. If both have it, then it is cancelled. > > > > I am not sure about giving space and other such matters. I remember I > > have an uncle who was very adventurous in his young days , used to > > practise real shooting, and going to fields and giving parties and what > > not and he always used to tell us that stay away from your wife for a > > week and when you come back look at the reception you receive from her. > > I have seen him since last 30 years staying away for most of the part on > > business tours etc. and coming home for only to stay for a weeks time > > collectively in a month. What happened ? Today their state is such that > > they both sleep in seperate rooms since last 10 years, and always speak > > in criticising and complaining tones about each other and cannot sit > > silently near each other for more than half an hour at the most. Thank > > God I did not listen to his advices and am happier. My wife is a Scorpio > > Lagna with Mars in lagna, and me a Leo Lagna with Mars and Rahu in > > Lagna. We fight with each other more than normal couples do, but the > > understanding too is greater than normal couples. > > > > Hope the above was an astrological mail as well as otherwise, so one > > need not complain about Bhaskar writing all nonsense. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Perhaps , as it is expected in astrology, it helps that they have > > those combination in both the horoscopes. SOme times I wonder at the two > > opposite sayings " Like poles repel and unlike poles attract" on one > > side and "birds of a feather flock together" on the other. > > > > > > More importantly, in my personal opinion, and this has nothing to do > > with astrology, when both have jobs or one has a stressful job, having > > space and lots of space in a marriage is always helpful in keeping it > > healthy. Is it not? At least I need lots of space. > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > --- On Mon, 23/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A > > prediction technique > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, 23 November, 2009, 12:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Text Book Rules are meant just for knowledge of what can be with a > > > > > > particular placement or combination somewhere BUT these rules must be > > > > > > applied in absence of any other influences influencing this placement > > or > > > > > > combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance we all know that a Leo Lagna will be a Fiery personality. > > > > > > But what happens when the Moon is situated in the Lagna, and the Sun > > > > > > goes in Cancer ? Will not the fire become less fiery and depleted ? Or > > > > > > same with saturn or Ketu coming to sit in the Lagna Leo? > > > > > > > > > > > > In same manner its not necessary that Sun in 7th will cause problems > > in > > > > > > marital Life, or divorce or dominations etc. The result has to be > > > > > > assessed in totality. Presently I am in Jaipur and I know a couple who > > > > > > both have Sun and Mars in their 7th houses, but are a perfect couple > > and > > > > > > both earning between 15-25 lakhs per Month(not annum) as Professionals > > > > > > in their respective areas.I cannot of course disclose their names or > > > > > > Profession but both of them are normally away from each other for more > > > > > > than 15 days a month due to their profession which takes one of them > > to > > > > > > touring extensively all over the world/India. And they have been > > married > > > > > > since 10 years, and still a lovey dovey couple. If a genuine > > assessment > > > > > > is made then I would say that the wife overshadows her husband, but > > only > > > > > > till a tolerable limit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore statements thrown in the air , about dictums which are to be > > > > > > applied in isolations, are of no avail normally. Do not look much deep > > > > > > than necessary in such statements. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ > > ..> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he > > > > > > completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort.. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Dear friends, Yesterday I did put a write-up on this issue "Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique" I hoped that at least some members would READ that and I would get few feedbacks. Alas ! 'Seems that no one has read that. regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of Manoj ChandranTuesday, November 24, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Anita Ji, Jyotish is entirely based on the "philosophy" of Karma. Without it Jyotish becomes Null and Void. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 > Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 6:44:18 AMRe: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Manoj ji,That is a fine way of looking at it. But tell me, how many of us are really aware about what exactly are the lessons we have to learn in life, what lessons we have COME to learn.? A few astrologers like some of our members here and some learners like me who have consulted astrologers for the sole purpose of trying to find out what lessons I have come here to this world to learn, would be aware of these things. My god ! this discussion about Sun in the 7th in scorpio appears to be moving away from astrology into philosophy!! !!Regards, Anita--- On Mon, 23/11/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 23 November, 2009, 6:11 PM Anita Ji, One has to look deeper, some times external appearance of dominance can be over compensation for the other spouse being the real decision maker. Once again if there is Jupiter aspect on the Sun/7H and/or 7L then the dominance will be a subtle and kind one, not an aggressive one. If Sun is in a friend's sign or enemy's sign also needs to be considered. In general some one with Sun in 7H has to develop the ability to give importance to others' points of view in this life time, some thing that was probably neglected in previous life times. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, November 23, 2009 4:14:20 AMRE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Hi,I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort..Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 22/11/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique"'ancient_indian_ astrology'" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 11:22 AM Dear Friends, If I remember correctly, the result attributed to Sun in 7th was discussed in detail by Sreenadh-ji. The relevant summary was available in the 'Files'. It was more like... "Results of Sun in various houses." Along with reference from various classics. The person should get dominated by spouse and he/she should have a changeable taste in food. Will be having dis-satisfaction. Will be having the feeling that his/her talents are not being recognized. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuSunday, November 22, 2009 4:40 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique dear Anitaji, Sun in the 7th house of the native will have a spouse who will be very much dominating on the native. regards, k.gopu--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySunday, November 22, 2009, 10:05 AM Dear Devi singh ji,You are talking of sun in 7th benefiting the spouse according to western or easter astrology?Because I am getting doubts since some time back in this very forum, there was a discussion going on about sun in 7th being detrimental to the interest of the spouse. Some one had posted a horoscope of a man with sun in 7th whose wife had committed suicide...Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 21/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:11 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,My understanding is as below."sun in scorpio and in 7th house will help native's wife""moon in scorpio and in 4th house will help native's mother"------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Thank you for the inputs. The effects of the Sun , Moon and Lagna would vary in Scorpio. For instance what is this mix going to produce ? The Sun, a Hot fiery Planet, in a Fixed but watery sign (Scorpio)? Imagine - A Red Hot Fire tong coming straight after being baked in the Fire, in the fingers of a Doctor , coming to land on the boil on the skin which has developed pus. Now if this Sun sign is Scorpio but this is placed in the 7th house, then whom do you think will be like this? The native or his wife ???? Ponder, think and let me know. What about Moon in Scorpio ? A watery planet in a watery sign ? Why is it debeilitated here ? What are the effects here to the native with such a Mooon ?Suppose it appears in the 4th house then will the results be attributed to the mother or to the native ? Ponder, think and let me know. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > my views are as below.> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> his aatma/Ego is like scorpian so he always want to act as scorpian if > get chance as master> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> his mind is scorpian so he will think like scorpian and act in case he > is slave and may not act in case he is master> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> People perception was always that he is scorpian> > first clarification required where he want to act and then we can figure > out the vary nature of that jatak> > only looking at above mentions details one can say but that is not > justification there is more then this as well to see.> > ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Bhaskar wrote:> > > >> >> > Dear Anita ji and all,> >> > Please let me have your views -> >> > A person with -> >> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> >> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> >> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> >> > Among above what should be the deciding factor to call him a Scorpio> > nativity or a Scorpion, or Librian or Arien or whatever ?> >> > Or is there any other factor also contributing to the above....> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. com > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, Anita R > > ash.rsh55@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > Belated birthday greetings to you. Sun sign is scorpio is it? Ah> > ah...I am a scorpio too.> > > god bless you and shower you all the good things in life.> > > Love,> > > Anita> > >> > > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:> > >> > > Sheevani sheevani147@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A> > prediction technique> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 1:14 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Happy Belated Birthday greetings to you. May Health, Wealth , Sucesss> > and Happiness last throughout your long fulfilling life.> > >> > >> > >> > > warmest regards> > >> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" sreesog@> > > wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Dear Gopi ji,> > >> > > > I don't know the Birth details of my friend. I will request the> > same, and if he provides and permits, I will share it here. My Birth> > details are known to many - 1971 Nov 18; 2.54 AM; Trivandrum, Kerala.> > Virgo Lagna, Libra Moon sign, Visakha Nakshatra.. > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > Sreenadh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > > > nice thoughts indeed.I know there are highly learned kerala> > astrologers> > >> > > > > like in andhra.Unfortunatel y as you mentioned they are not good> > in> > >> > > > > english and net sauvy.I would like to have your friend's birth> > details> > >> > > > > if you have and dont mind sharing.You can send to my> > Email.Incidentally> > >> > > > > i would like to have your own as well.> > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > > gopi.> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Dear Chakrobortyji, I did read it as soon as you put it, but this was not exactly my area of interest and studies, so did not comment on it. Because also I have nil knowledge in this area. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Yesterday I did put a write-up on this issue > > " Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique " > > I hoped that at least some members would READ that > and I would get few feedbacks. > > Alas ! 'Seems that no one has read that. > > regards > > Chakraborty > > > > > ________________________________ > On Behalf Of Manoj Chandran > Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:10 PM > > Re: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > > > > Dear Anita Ji, > > Jyotish is entirely based on the " philosophy " of Karma. Without it Jyotish becomes Null and Void. > > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Anita R ash.rsh55 > > Tue, November 24, 2009 6:44:18 AM > Re: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > That is a fine way of looking at it. But tell me, how many of us are really aware about what exactly are the lessons we have to learn in life, what lessons we have COME to learn.? A few astrologers like some of our members here and some learners like me who have consulted astrologers for the sole purpose of trying to find out what lessons I have come here to this world to learn, would be aware of these things. My god ! this discussion about Sun in the 7th in scorpio appears to be moving away from astrology into philosophy!! !! > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Mon, 23/11/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ <http:///>> wrote: > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 23 November, 2009, 6:11 PM > > > > Anita Ji, > > One has to look deeper, some times external appearance of dominance can be over compensation for the other spouse being the real decision maker. Once again if there is Jupiter aspect on the Sun/7H and/or 7L then the dominance will be a subtle and kind one, not an aggressive one. If Sun is in a friend's sign or enemy's sign also needs to be considered. In general some one with Sun in 7H has to develop the ability to give importance to others' points of view in this life time, some thing that was probably neglected in previous life times. > > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Anita R ash.rsh55 > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Mon, November 23, 2009 4:14:20 AM > RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > > > > Hi, > I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort..[http://mail.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif] > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Sun, 22/11/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in<http://iocl.co.in/>> wrote: > > Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> > RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > " 'ancient_indian_ astrology' " <ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 11:22 AM > > > > Dear Friends, > > If I remember correctly, the result attributed to Sun > in 7th was discussed in detail by Sreenadh-ji. The > relevant summary was available in the 'Files'. It > was more like... " Results of Sun in various houses. " > Along with reference from various classics. > > The person should get dominated by spouse and > he/she should have a changeable taste in food. > Will be having dis-satisfaction. Will be having the > feeling that his/her talents are not being recognized. > > regards > > Chakraborty > > > ________________________________ > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K Gopu > Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:40 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > > > > dear Anitaji, > Sun in the 7th house of the native will have a spouse who will > be very much dominating on the native. > > regards, > k.gopu > > > > --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Anita R ash.rsh55 > wrote: > > Anita R ash.rsh55 > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, November 22, 2009, 10:05 AM > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > You are talking of sun in 7th benefiting the spouse according to western or easter astrology? > Because I am getting doubts since some time back in this very forum, there was a discussion going on about sun in 7th being detrimental to the interest of the spouse. Some one had posted a horoscope of a man with sun in 7th whose wife had committed suicide... > Regards, > Anita > --- On Sat, 21/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com<http://gmail.com/>> wrote: > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique > ancient_indian_ astrology > Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:11 AM > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > My understanding is as below. > > " sun in scorpio and in 7th house will help native's wife " > " moon in scorpio and in 4th house will help native's mother " > > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > Dear Devisingh ji, > Thank you for the inputs. > The effects of the Sun , Moon and Lagna would vary in Scorpio. > For instance what is this mix going to produce ? > The Sun, a Hot fiery Planet, in a Fixed but watery sign (Scorpio)? > Imagine - A Red Hot Fire tong coming straight after being baked in the Fire, in the fingers of a Doctor , coming to land on the boil on the skin which has developed pus. > Now if this Sun sign is Scorpio but this is placed in the 7th house, then whom do you think will be like this? The native or his wife ???? > Ponder, think and let me know. > What about Moon in Scorpio ? A watery planet in a watery sign ? Why is it debeilitated here ? What are the effects here to the native with such a Mooon ?Suppose it appears in the 4th house then will the results be attributed to the mother or to the native ? > Ponder, think and let me know. > regards/Bhaskar. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > my views are as below. > > > > 1) Sun sign as scorpio. > > his aatma/Ego is like scorpian so he always want to act as scorpian if > > get chance as master > > > > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio. > > his mind is scorpian so he will think like scorpian and act in case he > > is slave and may not act in case he is master > > > > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio. > > People perception was always that he is scorpian > > > > first clarification required where he want to act and then we can figure > > out the vary nature of that jatak > > > > only looking at above mentions details one can say but that is not > > justification there is more then this as well to see. > > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > > > > > Please let me have your views - > > > > > > A person with - > > > > > > 1) Sun sign as scorpio. > > > > > > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio. > > > > > > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio. > > > > > > Among above what should be the deciding factor to call him a Scorpio > > > nativity or a Scorpion, or Librian or Arien or whatever ? > > > > > > Or is there any other factor also contributing to the above.... > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. com > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, Anita R > > > ash.rsh55@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > Belated birthday greetings to you. Sun sign is scorpio is it? Ah > > > ah...I am a scorpio too. > > > > god bless you and shower you all the good things in life. > > > > Love, > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Sheevani sheevani147@ > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A > > > prediction technique > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 1:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Belated Birthday greetings to you. May Health, Wealth , Sucesss > > > and Happiness last throughout your long fulfilling life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreesog " sreesog@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi ji, > > > > > > > > > I don't know the Birth details of my friend. I will request the > > > same, and if he provides and permits, I will share it here. My Birth > > > details are known to many - 1971 Nov 18; 2.54 AM; Trivandrum, Kerala. > > > Virgo Lagna, Libra Moon sign, Visakha Nakshatra.. > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna " > > > <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > > > > > nice thoughts indeed.I know there are highly learned kerala > > > astrologers > > > > > > > > > > like in andhra.Unfortunatel y as you mentioned they are not good > > > in > > > > > > > > > > english and net sauvy.I would like to have your friend's birth > > > details > > > > > > > > > > if you have and dont mind sharing.You can send to my > > > Email.Incidentally > > > > > > > > > > i would like to have your own as well. > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > http://in./ . com/ <http://in./. com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage<http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http://in./>. > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage<http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http://in./>. > > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Dear Chakraborty ji, I am yet to go through the document you provided. I will go through it today and give my feedback. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Yesterday I did put a write-up on this issue > > " Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique " > > I hoped that at least some members would READ that > and I would get few feedbacks. > > Alas ! 'Seems that no one has read that. > > regards > > Chakraborty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Dear Chakroborty Ji, Sorry it took so long to reply to this. I am swamped with other matters. Credit goes to you for this patient and wonderful write up and experimenting with the progression methods. However, after careful analysis, my view is that it is not reliable, exactly the way that it has been implemented (ie degrees of Planets being the prime consideration). However in staring at the charts for a prolonged time, I still think the progression techniques, can be useful, but used in a more traditional way. I am also not too thrilled regarding the various evolving methods of erecting Navamsha charts, may be more due my limitation, but I feel ancient techniques are enough and I feel so many techniques quite over-whelming. For example: I am taking only those that could not be correlated with the technique described by you. AIA-Quiz -2 c) Birth of second son on 09 Oct 1995 If we use Sreenadh Ji's spreadsheet and plug in 33 years, we get progressed Lagna as Scorpio. So let us open the Natal chart and keep our finger on Scorpio (while not forgetting the Orginal Lagna is in Aquarius). From Scorpio Lagna we see a wonderful GKY of the 2L/5L Ju and 9L Mo in the 4H of home. This GKY also happening in the Lagna of Natal chart is significant. This can clue us to a positive even related to a child. d) Surgery on 27 Aug 2004 : Once again Plugging in 42 Years in the XL spreadsheet , we get Leo as the Progressed Lagna. Now the GKY is in the 7H and it is the combination of the 8L Ju and the 12L Mo in the 7H. 8L and 12L combo aspecting LL and Lagna is quite interesting. Clearly this re-enforces clues to the event. THis is all I had time to work on right away. I will try to work on other examples as time permits. Hope others can add to this as well. Regards, -Manoj "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 Wed, November 25, 2009 9:54:22 PMRE: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear friends, Yesterday I did put a write-up on this issue "Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique" I hoped that at least some members would READ that and I would get few feedbacks. Alas ! 'Seems that no one has read that. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of Manoj ChandranTuesday, November 24, 2009 11:10 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Anita Ji, Jyotish is entirely based on the "philosophy" of Karma. Without it Jyotish becomes Null and Void. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, November 24, 2009 6:44:18 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Manoj ji,That is a fine way of looking at it. But tell me, how many of us are really aware about what exactly are the lessons we have to learn in life, what lessons we have COME to learn.? A few astrologers like some of our members here and some learners like me who have consulted astrologers for the sole purpose of trying to find out what lessons I have come here to this world to learn, would be aware of these things. My god ! this discussion about Sun in the 7th in scorpio appears to be moving away from astrology into philosophy!! !!Regards, Anita--- On Mon, 23/11/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 23 November, 2009, 6:11 PM Anita Ji, One has to look deeper, some times external appearance of dominance can be over compensation for the other spouse being the real decision maker. Once again if there is Jupiter aspect on the Sun/7H and/or 7L then the dominance will be a subtle and kind one, not an aggressive one. If Sun is in a friend's sign or enemy's sign also needs to be considered. In general some one with Sun in 7H has to develop the ability to give importance to others' points of view in this life time, some thing that was probably neglected in previous life times. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, November 23, 2009 4:14:20 AMRE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Hi,I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort..Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 22/11/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique"'ancient_indian_ astrology'" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 11:22 AM Dear Friends, If I remember correctly, the result attributed to Sun in 7th was discussed in detail by Sreenadh-ji. The relevant summary was available in the 'Files'. It was more like... "Results of Sun in various houses." Along with reference from various classics. The person should get dominated by spouse and he/she should have a changeable taste in food. Will be having dis-satisfaction. Will be having the feeling that his/her talents are not being recognized. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuSunday, November 22, 2009 4:40 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique dear Anitaji, Sun in the 7th house of the native will have a spouse who will be very much dominating on the native. regards, k.gopu--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySunday, November 22, 2009, 10:05 AM Dear Devi singh ji,You are talking of sun in 7th benefiting the spouse according to western or easter astrology?Because I am getting doubts since some time back in this very forum, there was a discussion going on about sun in 7th being detrimental to the interest of the spouse. Some one had posted a horoscope of a man with sun in 7th whose wife had committed suicide...Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 21/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:11 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,My understanding is as below."sun in scorpio and in 7th house will help native's wife""moon in scorpio and in 4th house will help native's mother"------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Thank you for the inputs. The effects of the Sun , Moon and Lagna would vary in Scorpio. For instance what is this mix going to produce ? The Sun, a Hot fiery Planet, in a Fixed but watery sign (Scorpio)? Imagine - A Red Hot Fire tong coming straight after being baked in the Fire, in the fingers of a Doctor , coming to land on the boil on the skin which has developed pus. Now if this Sun sign is Scorpio but this is placed in the 7th house, then whom do you think will be like this? The native or his wife ???? Ponder, think and let me know. What about Moon in Scorpio ? A watery planet in a watery sign ? Why is it debeilitated here ? What are the effects here to the native with such a Mooon ?Suppose it appears in the 4th house then will the results be attributed to the mother or to the native ? Ponder, think and let me know. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > my views are as below.> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> his aatma/Ego is like scorpian so he always want to act as scorpian if > get chance as master> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> his mind is scorpian so he will think like scorpian and act in case he > is slave and may not act in case he is master> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> People perception was always that he is scorpian> > first clarification required where he want to act and then we can figure > out the vary nature of that jatak> > only looking at above mentions details one can say but that is not > justification there is more then this as well to see.> > ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Bhaskar wrote:> > > >> >> > Dear Anita ji and all,> >> > Please let me have your views -> >> > A person with -> >> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> >> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> >> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> >> > Among above what should be the deciding factor to call him a Scorpio> > nativity or a Scorpion, or Librian or Arien or whatever ?> >> > Or is there any other factor also contributing to the above....> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . . com > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, Anita R > > ash.rsh55@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > Belated birthday greetings to you. Sun sign is scorpio is it? Ah> > ah...I am a scorpio too.> > > god bless you and shower you all the good things in life.> > > Love,> > > Anita> > >> > > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:> > >> > > Sheevani sheevani147@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A> > prediction technique> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 1:14 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Happy Belated Birthday greetings to you. May Health, Wealth , Sucesss> > and Happiness last throughout your long fulfilling life.> > >> > >> > >> > > warmest regards> > >> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" sreesog@> > > wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Dear Gopi ji,> > >> > > > I don't know the Birth details of my friend. I will request the> > same, and if he provides and permits, I will share it here. My Birth> > details are known to many - 1971 Nov 18; 2.54 AM; Trivandrum, Kerala.> > Virgo Lagna, Libra Moon sign, Visakha Nakshatra.. > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > Sreenadh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > > > nice thoughts indeed.I know there are highly learned kerala> > astrologers> > >> > > > > like in andhra.Unfortunatel y as you mentioned they are not good> > in> > >> > > > > english and net sauvy.I would like to have your friend's birth> > details> > >> > > > > if you have and dont mind sharing.You can send to my> > Email.Incidentally> > >> > > > > i would like to have your own as well.> > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > > gopi.> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Dear Manoj-ji, Thanks for the feedback. It really helped. regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of Manoj ChandranThursday, November 26, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Chakroborty Ji, Sorry it took so long to reply to this. I am swamped with other matters. Credit goes to you for this patient and wonderful write up and experimenting with the progression methods. However, after careful analysis, my view is that it is not reliable, exactly the way that it has been implemented (ie degrees of Planets being the prime consideration). However in staring at the charts for a prolonged time, I still think the progression techniques, can be useful, but used in a more traditional way. I am also not too thrilled regarding the various evolving methods of erecting Navamsha charts, may be more due my limitation, but I feel ancient techniques are enough and I feel so many techniques quite over-whelming. For example: I am taking only those that could not be correlated with the technique described by you. AIA-Quiz -2 c) Birth of second son on 09 Oct 1995 If we use Sreenadh Ji's spreadsheet and plug in 33 years, we get progressed Lagna as Scorpio. So let us open the Natal chart and keep our finger on Scorpio (while not forgetting the Orginal Lagna is in Aquarius). From Scorpio Lagna we see a wonderful GKY of the 2L/5L Ju and 9L Mo in the 4H of home. This GKY also happening in the Lagna of Natal chart is significant. This can clue us to a positive even related to a child. d) Surgery on 27 Aug 2004 : Once again Plugging in 42 Years in the XL spreadsheet , we get Leo as the Progressed Lagna. Now the GKY is in the 7H and it is the combination of the 8L Ju and the 12L Mo in the 7H. 8L and 12L combo aspecting LL and Lagna is quite interesting. Clearly this re-enforces clues to the event. THis is all I had time to work on right away. I will try to work on other examples as time permits. Hope others can add to this as well. Regards, -Manoj "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 (AT) iocl (DOT) co.in> Wed, November 25, 2009 9:54:22 PMRE: Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear friends, Yesterday I did put a write-up on this issue "Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique" I hoped that at least some members would READ that and I would get few feedbacks. Alas ! 'Seems that no one has read that. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of Manoj ChandranTuesday, November 24, 2009 11:10 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Anita Ji, Jyotish is entirely based on the "philosophy" of Karma. Without it Jyotish becomes Null and Void. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, November 24, 2009 6:44:18 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Dear Manoj ji,That is a fine way of looking at it. But tell me, how many of us are really aware about what exactly are the lessons we have to learn in life, what lessons we have COME to learn.? A few astrologers like some of our members here and some learners like me who have consulted astrologers for the sole purpose of trying to find out what lessons I have come here to this world to learn, would be aware of these things. My god ! this discussion about Sun in the 7th in scorpio appears to be moving away from astrology into philosophy!! !!Regards, Anita--- On Mon, 23/11/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 23 November, 2009, 6:11 PM Anita Ji, One has to look deeper, some times external appearance of dominance can be over compensation for the other spouse being the real decision maker. Once again if there is Jupiter aspect on the Sun/7H and/or 7L then the dominance will be a subtle and kind one, not an aggressive one. If Sun is in a friend's sign or enemy's sign also needs to be considered. In general some one with Sun in 7H has to develop the ability to give importance to others' points of view in this life time, some thing that was probably neglected in previous life times. Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, November 23, 2009 4:14:20 AMRE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique Hi,I am sure there are exceptions. My dad has sun in the 7th and he completely dominates my mom.. much to our discomfort..Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 22/11/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique"'ancient_indian_ astrology'" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 11:22 AM Dear Friends, If I remember correctly, the result attributed to Sun in 7th was discussed in detail by Sreenadh-ji. The relevant summary was available in the 'Files'. It was more like... "Results of Sun in various houses." Along with reference from various classics. The person should get dominated by spouse and he/she should have a changeable taste in food. Will be having dis-satisfaction. Will be having the feeling that his/her talents are not being recognized. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuSunday, November 22, 2009 4:40 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction technique dear Anitaji, Sun in the 7th house of the native will have a spouse who will be very much dominating on the native. regards, k.gopu--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySunday, November 22, 2009, 10:05 AM Dear Devi singh ji,You are talking of sun in 7th benefiting the spouse according to western or easter astrology?Because I am getting doubts since some time back in this very forum, there was a discussion going on about sun in 7th being detrimental to the interest of the spouse. Some one had posted a horoscope of a man with sun in 7th whose wife had committed suicide...Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 21/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A prediction techniqueancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 21 November, 2009, 11:11 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,My understanding is as below."sun in scorpio and in 7th house will help native's wife""moon in scorpio and in 4th house will help native's mother"------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Thank you for the inputs. The effects of the Sun , Moon and Lagna would vary in Scorpio. For instance what is this mix going to produce ? The Sun, a Hot fiery Planet, in a Fixed but watery sign (Scorpio)? Imagine - A Red Hot Fire tong coming straight after being baked in the Fire, in the fingers of a Doctor , coming to land on the boil on the skin which has developed pus. Now if this Sun sign is Scorpio but this is placed in the 7th house, then whom do you think will be like this? The native or his wife ???? Ponder, think and let me know. What about Moon in Scorpio ? A watery planet in a watery sign ? Why is it debeilitated here ? What are the effects here to the native with such a Mooon ?Suppose it appears in the 4th house then will the results be attributed to the mother or to the native ? Ponder, think and let me know. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > my views are as below.> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> his aatma/Ego is like scorpian so he always want to act as scorpian if > get chance as master> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> his mind is scorpian so he will think like scorpian and act in case he > is slave and may not act in case he is master> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> People perception was always that he is scorpian> > first clarification required where he want to act and then we can figure > out the vary nature of that jatak> > only looking at above mentions details one can say but that is not > justification there is more then this as well to see.> > ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Bhaskar wrote:> > > >> >> > Dear Anita ji and all,> >> > Please let me have your views -> >> > A person with -> >> > 1) Sun sign as scorpio.> >> > 2) Moon sign as Scorpio.> >> > 3) The Lagna as Scorpio.> >> > Among above what should be the deciding factor to call him a Scorpio> > nativity or a Scorpion, or Librian or Arien or whatever ?> >> > Or is there any other factor also contributing to the above....> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . . com > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, Anita R > > ash.rsh55@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > Belated birthday greetings to you. Sun sign is scorpio is it? Ah> > ah...I am a scorpio too.> > > god bless you and shower you all the good things in life.> > > Love,> > > Anita> > >> > > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:> > >> > > Sheevani sheevani147@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rotating the Lagna - A> > prediction technique> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 1:14 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Happy Belated Birthday greetings to you. May Health, Wealth , Sucesss> > and Happiness last throughout your long fulfilling life.> > >> > >> > >> > > warmest regards> > >> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" sreesog@> > > wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Dear Gopi ji,> > >> > > > I don't know the Birth details of my friend. I will request the> > same, and if he provides and permits, I will share it here. My Birth> > details are known to many - 1971 Nov 18; 2.54 AM; Trivandrum, Kerala.> > Virgo Lagna, Libra Moon sign, Visakha Nakshatra.. > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > Sreenadh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > > > nice thoughts indeed.I know there are highly learned kerala> > astrologers> > >> > > > > like in andhra.Unfortunatel y as you mentioned they are not good> > in> > >> > > > > english and net sauvy.I would like to have your friend's birth> > details> > >> > > > > if you have and dont mind sharing.You can send to my> > Email.Incidentally> > >> > > > > i would like to have your own as well.> > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > > > gopi.> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > http://in./ . com/ <http://in./ . com/>> > >> >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Can you please elaborate logic behind this?? I just tried to get logic for Sun in the 7th for Taurus native and marriage effect as per your understanding. For degree portion 0-16.40 degree it moves so navamsa of Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma After that up to 30degree it is in navamsa of Ju and St so does reasoning goes in this way?? ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji and all, There is nothing much to see here, I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will give in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is enough. There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much of using brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big thesis. Just nothing more is required. We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will do to the marriage part . If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be compatibility problems in the marriage. If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again there are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in the relationships. But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then it is most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun antardasha please). How to obtain above results I have already explained several times in the past in this Group. I will not repeat. The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die immediately after birth. Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other factors. Last segment - Will have a child (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun antardasha) regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > > *"Energy Distribution"* > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which distributed to 12 > houses of matters > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places negative. > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other planets > aspects and other factors. > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy positive and > negative. > after looking this distribution we can come up with reasoning that suits > best for all this distribution > > > *"Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign"* > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell very less > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to 7th house > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th house) and > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th (partnerships) so > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to work and > religious deeds. > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and Religious/Prosperity > matters > > *"Scorpion"* > As Native has Scorpion Sun ....so certainly he has this energy .....he is > scorpion > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga "Energy > > Distribution". Can you please explain us what is this ? > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign, and you > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what departments? Will > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her husband > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in what sense > > actually ? > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still remains > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in what way will it > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not help the native > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or known as a > > Scorpion ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Devisingh ji, Please let me know - a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the taurus Lagna ? If You can do this simple excersise then you will be able to crack the essence of predictive astrology and will never need to learn complicated rules or mugging up of nonsense contradictory dictums which make no sense without al being applied at a time. regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Can you please elaborate logic behind this?? > I just tried to get logic for Sun in the 7th for Taurus native and > marriage effect as per your understanding. > > For degree portion 0-16.40 degree it moves so navamsa of Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma > After that up to 30degree it is in navamsa of Ju and St > so does reasoning goes in this way?? > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji and all, > > > > There is nothing much to see here, > > I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will give > > in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. > > > > Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is enough. > > There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much of using > > brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big thesis. Just > > nothing more is required. > > > > We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will > > do to the marriage part . > > > > If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be compatibility > > problems in the marriage. > > > > If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again there > > are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in the > > relationships. > > > > But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then it is > > most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. > > > > (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun > > antardasha please). > > > > How to obtain above results I have already explained several times in > > the past in this Group. I will not repeat. > > > > The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then > > > > If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die > > immediately after birth. > > Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other factors. > > Last segment - Will have a child > > > > (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun antardasha) > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > > > > > > * " Energy Distribution " * > > > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which distributed > > to 12 > > > houses of matters > > > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places negative. > > > > > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other planets > > > aspects and other factors. > > > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy positive > > and > > > negative. > > > after looking this distribution we can come up with reasoning that > > suits > > > best for all this distribution > > > > > > > > > * " Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign " * > > > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell very less > > > > > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > > > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to 7th > > house > > > > > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th house) and > > > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th (partnerships) so > > > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to work and > > > religious deeds. > > > > > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > > > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and Religious/Prosperity > > > matters > > > > > > * " Scorpion " * > > > As Native has Scorpion Sun ....so certainly he has this energy > > ....he is > > > scorpion > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga " Energy > > > > Distribution " . Can you please explain us what is this ? > > > > > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign, > > and you > > > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > > > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what departments? > > Will > > > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her husband > > > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in what > > sense > > > > actually ? > > > > > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still remains > > > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in what way > > will it > > > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not help the native > > > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or > > known as a > > > > Scorpion ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, Please find below is response from my side................. a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. ----vishakha last quarter,anuradha,jyeshdha b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. ----It depends on Ascendent degree ----if ascendence is more then 3.20 then anuradha,jyestha and moola 1st secor like this c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. ----vishakha ruled by jupitor,anuradha by saturn and jyestha by Mercury d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the taurus Lagna ? ----Jupitor is lord of 8th and 11th,saturn is lord of 9th and 10th,Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence ----however jupitor is lord of 2nd and 5th,saturn is lord of 3rd and 5th,Me is lord of 8th and 11th from 7th itself ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Please let me know - a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the taurus Lagna ? If You can do this simple excersise then you will be able to crack the essence of predictive astrology and will never need to learn complicated rules or mugging up of nonsense contradictory dictums which make no sense without al being applied at a time. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Devisingh ji, Now you must get the why of what I wrote as results . // Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence// Which is why I mentioned that if native marries in his Mercury antar then he will most probably have a Love marriage , and for child birth I mentioned, that he will certainly have a child in this period if this is the period of conception. You may similiarly check the results for the other degrees which I mentioned. Once you have understood this, please xplain to Senthil ji and Chakroborty ji, why I mentioned to them on one thread that the native will have post graduations mostly in Venus or Chandar antar and also attain PhD levels if he wishes to, in those periods. The above if understood well, is real practical predictive astrology, and rest is all bakwaas theory. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Thanks.......Will try to find some answers for other aspects as well using this technique........ will ponder and compare with other techniques as well what i have been using .....once i back from journey after week P.S. I apologizes as time for train is coming near and i have no more internet connection for next week...... ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Now you must get the why of what I wrote as results . // Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence// Which is why I mentioned that if native marries in his Mercury antar then he will most probably have a Love marriage , and for child birth I mentioned, that he will certainly have a child in this period if this is the period of conception. You may similiarly check the results for the other degrees which I mentioned. Once you have understood this, please xplain to Senthil ji and Chakroborty ji, why I mentioned to them on one thread that the native will have post graduations mostly in Venus or Chandar antar and also attain PhD levels if he wishes to, in those periods. The above if understood well, is real practical predictive astrology, and rest is all bakwaas theory. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear All, Please do not take my mistakes seriously and please provide your feedback that is appreciated as still i am learning. Putting in mathematical form to make it simple and Quick --Bhaskar Ji can comment here Sequence of Bhukti is Ke,Ve,Su,Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,St,Me Fire Sign Bhukti start With Ke then Ve..... Earth Sign Bhukti Start with Su 2nd quarter(3 quarter) then Mo.... Air Sign Bhukti Start with Ma 3rd quarter(2 quarter) then Ra.... Water Sign Bhukti Start with Ju 4th quarter(1 quarter) then St.... --Add degree of Asc and Planet and then find out quarter to be passed (1 quarter is 3 degree and 20 min) --Look planet sign placed in natal chart and then get starting point from where to be counting started --count quarter and find out ruler --get ruler house lordship for natal chart. Some doubts and my answers may be wrong i have not tested as such --Treat Ra lord ships same as St and Ke lord ships same as Ma --Mo sign can be used in place of natal chart and same process can be carried out. e.g.Zero degree Taurus native has scorpio sign and Sun 12 degree in 7th house. ---total 12 degree so 3 quarter passed and gets placed in 4th ---Scorpio sign so start with Ju 4th,st........ ---As 3 quarter to be passed so we left ju 4th,st-1-2....and it came st-3 ---we get ruler planet Saturn which is having ruler ship on 9th and 10th house ---now predict event in Sun Dasha ------------------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji, Please find below is response from my side................. a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. ----vishakha last quarter,anuradha,jyeshdha b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. ----It depends on Ascendent degree ----if ascendence is more then 3.20 then anuradha,jyestha and moola 1st secor like this c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. ----vishakha ruled by jupitor,anuradha by saturn and jyestha by Mercury d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the taurus Lagna ? ----Jupitor is lord of 8th and 11th,saturn is lord of 9th and 10th,Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence ----however jupitor is lord of 2nd and 5th,saturn is lord of 3rd and 5th,Me is lord of 8th and 11th from 7th itself ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Please let me know - a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the taurus Lagna ? If You can do this simple excersise then you will be able to crack the essence of predictive astrology and will never need to learn complicated rules or mugging up of nonsense contradictory dictums which make no sense without al being applied at a time. regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Can you please elaborate logic behind this?? > I just tried to get logic for Sun in the 7th for Taurus native and > marriage effect as per your understanding. > > For degree portion 0-16.40 degree it moves so navamsa of Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma > After that up to 30degree it is in navamsa of Ju and St > so does reasoning goes in this way?? > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji and all, > > > > There is nothing much to see here, > > I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will give > > in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. > > > > Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is enough. > > There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much of using > > brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big thesis. Just > > nothing more is required. > > > > We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will > > do to the marriage part . > > > > If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be compatibility > > problems in the marriage. > > > > If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again there > > are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in the > > relationships. > > > > But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then it is > > most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. > > > > (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun > > antardasha please). > > > > How to obtain above results I have already explained several times in > > the past in this Group. I will not repeat. > > > > The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then > > > > If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die > > immediately after birth. > > Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other factors. > > Last segment - Will have a child > > > > (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun antardasha) > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > > > > > > *"Energy Distribution"* > > > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which distributed > > to 12 > > > houses of matters > > > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places negative. > > > > > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other planets > > > aspects and other factors. > > > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy positive > > and > > > negative. > > > after looking this distribution we can come up with reasoning that > > suits > > > best for all this distribution > > > > > > > > > *"Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign"* > > > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell very less > > > > > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > > > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to 7th > > house > > > > > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th house) and > > > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th (partnerships) so > > > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to work and > > > religious deeds. > > > > > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > > > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and Religious/Prosperity > > > matters > > > > > > *"Scorpion"* > > > As Native has Scorpion Sun ....so certainly he has this energy > > ....he is > > > scorpion > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga "Energy > > > > Distribution". Can you please explain us what is this ? > > > > > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign, > > and you > > > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > > > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what departments? > > Will > > > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her husband > > > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in what > > sense > > > > actually ? > > > > > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still remains > > > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in what way > > will it > > > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not help the native > > > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or > > known as a > > > > Scorpion ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Devisingh ji, Actually i cannot understand if you are demonstrating some technique, or asking for some explanations or discussing something and looking for comments. Exactly what are we talking here. And in connection to what ? I am really confused to comment on this. Please guide. regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear All, > > Please do not take my mistakes seriously and please provide your > feedback that is appreciated as still i am learning. > Putting in mathematical form to make it simple and Quick --Bhaskar Ji > can comment here > > Sequence of Bhukti is Ke,Ve,Su,Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,St,Me > > 1. Fire Sign Bhukti start With Ke then Ve..... > 2. Earth Sign Bhukti Start with Su 2nd quarter(3 quarter) then Mo.... > 3. Air Sign Bhukti Start with Ma 3rd quarter(2 quarter) then Ra.... > 4. Water Sign Bhukti Start with Ju 4th quarter(1 quarter) then St.... > > --Add degree of Asc and Planet and then find out quarter to be passed > (1 quarter is 3 degree and 20 min) > --Look planet sign placed in natal chart and then get starting point > from where to be counting started > --count quarter and find out ruler > --get ruler house lordship for natal chart. > > Some doubts and my answers may be wrong i have not tested as such > --Treat Ra lord ships same as St and Ke lord ships same as Ma > --Mo sign can be used in place of natal chart and same process can be > carried out. > > e.g.Zero degree Taurus native has scorpio sign and Sun 12 degree in 7th > house. > ---total 12 degree so 3 quarter passed and gets placed in 4th > ---Scorpio sign so start with Ju 4th,st........ > ---As 3 quarter to be passed so we left ju 4th,st-1-2....and it came st-3 > ---we get ruler planet Saturn which is having ruler ship on 9th and 10th > house > ---now predict event in Sun Dasha > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > devisigh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Please find below is response from my side................. > > > > a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > > ----vishakha last quarter,anuradha,jyeshdha > > > > b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > > ----It depends on Ascendent degree > > ----if ascendence is more then 3.20 then anuradha,jyestha and moola > > 1st secor like this > > > > c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > > ----vishakha ruled by jupitor,anuradha by saturn and jyestha by Mercury > > > > d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > > taurus Lagna ? > > ----Jupitor is lord of *8th *and 11th,saturn is lord of 9th and > > 10th,Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence > > ----however jupitor is lord of 2nd and 5th,saturn is lord of 3rd and > > 5th,Me is lord of 8th and 11th from 7th itself > > > > ------------------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Devisingh ji, > >> > >> Please let me know - > >> > >> a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > >> > >> b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > >> > >> c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > >> > >> d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > >> taurus Lagna ? > >> > >> If You can do this simple excersise then you will be able to crack the > >> essence of predictive astrology and will never need to learn complicated > >> rules or mugging up of nonsense contradictory dictums which make no > >> sense without al being applied at a time. > >> > >> regards/Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> <%40>, devisigh > >> <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > >> > > >> > Can you please elaborate logic behind this?? > >> > I just tried to get logic for Sun in the 7th for Taurus native and > >> > marriage effect as per your understanding. > >> > > >> > For degree portion 0-16.40 degree it moves so navamsa of > >> Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma > >> > After that up to 30degree it is in navamsa of Ju and St > >> > so does reasoning goes in this way?? > >> > > >> > ------------------ > >> > Regards, > >> > Devisingh > >> > > >> > Bhaskar wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Dear Devisingh ji and all, > >> > > > >> > > There is nothing much to see here, > >> > > I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will > >> give > >> > > in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. > >> > > > >> > > Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is enough. > >> > > There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much of using > >> > > brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big thesis. Just > >> > > nothing more is required. > >> > > > >> > > We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will > >> > > do to the marriage part . > >> > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be > >> compatibility > >> > > problems in the marriage. > >> > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again there > >> > > are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in > >> the > >> > > relationships. > >> > > > >> > > But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then it is > >> > > most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. > >> > > > >> > > (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun > >> > > antardasha please). > >> > > > >> > > How to obtain above results I have already explained several times > >> in > >> > > the past in this Group. I will not repeat. > >> > > > >> > > The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then > >> > > > >> > > If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die > >> > > immediately after birth. > >> > > Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other factors. > >> > > Last segment - Will have a child > >> > > > >> > > (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun antardasha) > >> > > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. > >> > > > >> > > > >> <%40> > >> > > <%40>, devisigh > >> > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > >> > > > > >> > > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > >> > > > > >> > > > * " Energy Distribution " * > >> > > > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which distributed > >> > > to 12 > >> > > > houses of matters > >> > > > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places > >> negative. > >> > > > > >> > > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other > >> planets > >> > > > aspects and other factors. > >> > > > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy > >> positive > >> > > and > >> > > > negative. > >> > > > after looking this distribution we can come up with reasoning that > >> > > suits > >> > > > best for all this distribution > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > * " Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign " * > >> > > > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell very less > >> > > > > >> > > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > >> > > > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to > >> 7th > >> > > house > >> > > > > >> > > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th house) > >> and > >> > > > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th (partnerships) > >> so > >> > > > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to work > >> and > >> > > > religious deeds. > >> > > > > >> > > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > >> > > > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and > >> Religious/Prosperity > >> > > > matters > >> > > > > >> > > > * " Scorpion " * > >> > > > As Native has Scorpion Sun ....so certainly he has this energy > >> > > ....he is > >> > > > scorpion > >> > > > > >> > > > ------------------ > >> > > > Regards, > >> > > > Devisingh > >> > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga " Energy > >> > > > > Distribution " . Can you please explain us what is this ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign, > >> > > and you > >> > > > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > >> > > > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what > >> departments? > >> > > Will > >> > > > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her > >> husband > >> > > > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in > >> what > >> > > sense > >> > > > > actually ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still > >> remains > >> > > > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in what way > >> > > will it > >> > > > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not help the > >> native > >> > > > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or > >> > > known as a > >> > > > > Scorpion ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, I am Really sorry i think i may have made some mistake here... This is my humble attempt do demonstrate what i learned after doing exercise to solve questions provided by you Hope below lines of yours email may helps which is source of this if you are still confused "Once you have understood this, please xplain to Senthil ji and Chakroborty ji, why I mentioned to them on one thread that the native will have post graduations mostly in Venus or Chandar antar and also attain PhD levels if he wishes to, in those periods." Related to discussion no point to discuss does not have any experience with this technique i am student of KAS Some questions came after doing exercise as i have no experience of using this technique just after learned from you and provided my thought they may be completely offtrack please provide your explanations and comment that really helps much if planet falls in Ra/Ke nakshtra they which house to be used? --my thought it could be Ra same as St ...another thought take Ra same as sign lord...please explain if natal lord is week and in 6,8,12 then take Mo chart? --i think we can validate events using Mo chart if they works then Mo chart can be taken instead Natal how to predict dasha for other all house except where planet resides? --one thought take planet degree and find out lord for all signs not sure hope makes some sense ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Actually i cannot understand if you are demonstrating some technique, or asking for some explanations or discussing something and looking for comments. Exactly what are we talking here. And in connection to what ? I am really confused to comment on this. Please guide. regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear All, > > Please do not take my mistakes seriously and please provide your > feedback that is appreciated as still i am learning. > Putting in mathematical form to make it simple and Quick --Bhaskar Ji > can comment here > > Sequence of Bhukti is Ke,Ve,Su,Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,St,Me > > 1. Fire Sign Bhukti start With Ke then Ve..... > 2. Earth Sign Bhukti Start with Su 2nd quarter(3 quarter) then Mo.... > 3. Air Sign Bhukti Start with Ma 3rd quarter(2 quarter) then Ra.... > 4. Water Sign Bhukti Start with Ju 4th quarter(1 quarter) then St.... > > --Add degree of Asc and Planet and then find out quarter to be passed > (1 quarter is 3 degree and 20 min) > --Look planet sign placed in natal chart and then get starting point > from where to be counting started > --count quarter and find out ruler > --get ruler house lordship for natal chart. > > Some doubts and my answers may be wrong i have not tested as such > --Treat Ra lord ships same as St and Ke lord ships same as Ma > --Mo sign can be used in place of natal chart and same process can be > carried out. > > e.g.Zero degree Taurus native has scorpio sign and Sun 12 degree in 7th > house. > ---total 12 degree so 3 quarter passed and gets placed in 4th > ---Scorpio sign so start with Ju 4th,st........ > ---As 3 quarter to be passed so we left ju 4th,st-1-2....and it came st-3 > ---we get ruler planet Saturn which is having ruler ship on 9th and 10th > house > ---now predict event in Sun Dasha > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > devisigh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Please find below is response from my side................. > > > > a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > > ----vishakha last quarter,anuradha,jyeshdha > > > > b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > > ----It depends on Ascendent degree > > ----if ascendence is more then 3.20 then anuradha,jyestha and moola > > 1st secor like this > > > > c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > > ----vishakha ruled by jupitor,anuradha by saturn and jyestha by Mercury > > > > d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > > taurus Lagna ? > > ----Jupitor is lord of *8th *and 11th,saturn is lord of 9th and > > 10th,Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence > > ----however jupitor is lord of 2nd and 5th,saturn is lord of 3rd and > > 5th,Me is lord of 8th and 11th from 7th itself > > > > ------------------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Devisingh ji, > >> > >> Please let me know - > >> > >> a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > >> > >> b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > >> > >> c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > >> > >> d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > >> taurus Lagna ? > >> > >> If You can do this simple excersise then you will be able to crack the > >> essence of predictive astrology and will never need to learn complicated > >> rules or mugging up of nonsense contradictory dictums which make no > >> sense without al being applied at a time. > >> > >> regards/Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> <%40>, devisigh > >> <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > >> > > >> > Can you please elaborate logic behind this?? > >> > I just tried to get logic for Sun in the 7th for Taurus native and > >> > marriage effect as per your understanding. > >> > > >> > For degree portion 0-16.40 degree it moves so navamsa of > >> Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma > >> > After that up to 30degree it is in navamsa of Ju and St > >> > so does reasoning goes in this way?? > >> > > >> > ------------------ > >> > Regards, > >> > Devisingh > >> > > >> > Bhaskar wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Dear Devisingh ji and all, > >> > > > >> > > There is nothing much to see here, > >> > > I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will > >> give > >> > > in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. > >> > > > >> > > Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is enough. > >> > > There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much of using > >> > > brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big thesis. Just > >> > > nothing more is required. > >> > > > >> > > We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will > >> > > do to the marriage part . > >> > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be > >> compatibility > >> > > problems in the marriage. > >> > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again there > >> > > are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in > >> the > >> > > relationships. > >> > > > >> > > But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then it is > >> > > most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. > >> > > > >> > > (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun > >> > > antardasha please). > >> > > > >> > > How to obtain above results I have already explained several times > >> in > >> > > the past in this Group. I will not repeat. > >> > > > >> > > The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then > >> > > > >> > > If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die > >> > > immediately after birth. > >> > > Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other factors. > >> > > Last segment - Will have a child > >> > > > >> > > (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun antardasha) > >> > > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. > >> > > > >> > > > >> <%40> > >> > > <%40>, devisigh > >> > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > >> > > > > >> > > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > >> > > > > >> > > > *"Energy Distribution"* > >> > > > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which distributed > >> > > to 12 > >> > > > houses of matters > >> > > > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places > >> negative. > >> > > > > >> > > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other > >> planets > >> > > > aspects and other factors. > >> > > > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy > >> positive > >> > > and > >> > > > negative. > >> > > > after looking this distribution we can come up with reasoning that > >> > > suits > >> > > > best for all this distribution > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > *"Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign"* > >> > > > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell very less > >> > > > > >> > > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > >> > > > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to > >> 7th > >> > > house > >> > > > > >> > > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th house) > >> and > >> > > > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th (partnerships) > >> so > >> > > > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to work > >> and > >> > > > religious deeds. > >> > > > > >> > > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > >> > > > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and > >> Religious/Prosperity > >> > > > matters > >> > > > > >> > > > *"Scorpion"* > >> > > > As Native has Scorpion Sun ....so certainly he has this energy > >> > > ....he is > >> > > > scorpion > >> > > > > >> > > > ------------------ > >> > > > Regards, > >> > > > Devisingh > >> > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga "Energy > >> > > > > Distribution". Can you please explain us what is this ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign, > >> > > and you > >> > > > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > >> > > > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what > >> departments? > >> > > Will > >> > > > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her > >> husband > >> > > > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in > >> what > >> > > sense > >> > > > > actually ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still > >> remains > >> > > > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in what way > >> > > will it > >> > > > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not help the > >> native > >> > > > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or > >> > > known as a > >> > > > > Scorpion ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Devisingh ji, But I never spoke in my previous mails about Fire,Earth or Airy or Watery signs to be used in the manner you have used.Neither did I spoke about any movements in 2nd 3rd or 4th quarter. neither did I speak about adding degree of planet and Asc. What are these additions ? from where have they come ? They create only headaches. Please use only the simple technique I have given, if you are actually looking for how I derived those results, which has already been explained in simple language. Now coming to your queries - //if planet falls in Ra/Ke nakshtra they which house to be used? --my thought it could be Ra same as St ...another thought take Ra same as sign lord...please explain // To check results of Rahu and Ketu what effects they will bring in - First the planet in conjunction of the node within 4 degrees. Next The nakshatra in which the Node is placed. Next the Sign lord results in which sign the Node is placed. Finally the planet/house aspected by Rahu. //if natal lord is week and in 6,8,12 then take Mo chart? --i think we can validate events using Mo chart if they works then Mo chart can be taken instead Natal// Natal Chart is the only Chart to be taken for the method I have given. If You think that the Moon or Sun Chart can be taken, then no one to stop you from doing that. //how to predict dasha for other all house except where planet resides?// We do not have to predict Dasha for houses. we have to predict what results each planet will give. These 9 Planets will cov er all the 12 houses in question, so no seperate study is necessary. //--one thought take planet degree and find out lord for all signs not sure // I do not understand what is meant by this. best wishes, bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > I am Really sorry i think i may have made some mistake here... > This is my humble attempt do demonstrate what i learned after doing > exercise to solve questions provided by you > Hope below lines of yours email may helps which is source of this if you > are still confused > > " Once you have understood this, please xplain to Senthil ji and > Chakroborty ji, why I mentioned to them on one thread that the native > will have post graduations mostly in Venus or Chandar antar and also > attain PhD levels if he wishes to, in those periods. " > > Related to discussion no point to discuss does not have any experience > with this technique i am student of KAS > > Some questions came after doing exercise as i have no experience of > using this technique just after learned from you and provided my thought > they may be completely offtrack please provide your explanations and > comment that really helps much > > if planet falls in Ra/Ke nakshtra they which house to be used? > --my thought it could be Ra same as St ...another thought take Ra same > as sign lord...please explain > if natal lord is week and in 6,8,12 then take Mo chart? > --i think we can validate events using Mo chart if they works then Mo > chart can be taken instead Natal > how to predict dasha for other all house except where planet resides? > --one thought take planet degree and find out lord for all signs not sure > > hope makes some sense > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > Actually i cannot understand if you are demonstrating some technique, > > or asking for some explanations or discussing something and looking > > for comments. Exactly what are we talking here. And in connection to > > what ? I am really confused to comment on this. > > Please guide. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Please do not take my mistakes seriously and please provide your > > > feedback that is appreciated as still i am learning. > > > Putting in mathematical form to make it simple and Quick --Bhaskar Ji > > > can comment here > > > > > > Sequence of Bhukti is Ke,Ve,Su,Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,St,Me > > > > > > 1. Fire Sign Bhukti start With Ke then Ve..... > > > 2. Earth Sign Bhukti Start with Su 2nd quarter(3 quarter) then Mo.... > > > 3. Air Sign Bhukti Start with Ma 3rd quarter(2 quarter) then Ra.... > > > 4. Water Sign Bhukti Start with Ju 4th quarter(1 quarter) then St.... > > > > > > --Add degree of Asc and Planet and then find out quarter to be passed > > > (1 quarter is 3 degree and 20 min) > > > --Look planet sign placed in natal chart and then get starting point > > > from where to be counting started > > > --count quarter and find out ruler > > > --get ruler house lordship for natal chart. > > > > > > Some doubts and my answers may be wrong i have not tested as such > > > --Treat Ra lord ships same as St and Ke lord ships same as Ma > > > --Mo sign can be used in place of natal chart and same process can be > > > carried out. > > > > > > e.g.Zero degree Taurus native has scorpio sign and Sun 12 degree in 7th > > > house. > > > ---total 12 degree so 3 quarter passed and gets placed in 4th > > > ---Scorpio sign so start with Ju 4th,st........ > > > ---As 3 quarter to be passed so we left ju 4th,st-1-2....and it came > > st-3 > > > ---we get ruler planet Saturn which is having ruler ship on 9th and > > 10th > > > house > > > ---now predict event in Sun Dasha > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Please find below is response from my side................. > > > > > > > > a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > > > > ----vishakha last quarter,anuradha,jyeshdha > > > > > > > > b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > > > > ----It depends on Ascendent degree > > > > ----if ascendence is more then 3.20 then anuradha,jyestha and moola > > > > 1st secor like this > > > > > > > > c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > > > > ----vishakha ruled by jupitor,anuradha by saturn and jyestha by > > Mercury > > > > > > > > d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > > > > taurus Lagna ? > > > > ----Jupitor is lord of *8th *and 11th,saturn is lord of 9th and > > > > 10th,Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence > > > > ----however jupitor is lord of 2nd and 5th,saturn is lord of 3rd and > > > > 5th,Me is lord of 8th and 11th from 7th itself > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dear Devisingh ji, > > > >> > > > >> Please let me know - > > > >> > > > >> a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > > > >> > > > >> b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > > > >> > > > >> c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > > > >> > > > >> d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > > > >> taurus Lagna ? > > > >> > > > >> If You can do this simple excersise then you will be able to > > crack the > > > >> essence of predictive astrology and will never need to learn > > complicated > > > >> rules or mugging up of nonsense contradictory dictums which make no > > > >> sense without al being applied at a time. > > > >> > > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40>, devisigh > > > >> <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > >> > > > > >> > Can you please elaborate logic behind this?? > > > >> > I just tried to get logic for Sun in the 7th for Taurus native and > > > >> > marriage effect as per your understanding. > > > >> > > > > >> > For degree portion 0-16.40 degree it moves so navamsa of > > > >> Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma > > > >> > After that up to 30degree it is in navamsa of Ju and St > > > >> > so does reasoning goes in this way?? > > > >> > > > > >> > ------------------ > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Devisingh > > > >> > > > > >> > Bhaskar wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Dear Devisingh ji and all, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > There is nothing much to see here, > > > >> > > I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will > > > >> give > > > >> > > in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is > > enough. > > > >> > > There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much > > of using > > > >> > > brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big > > thesis. Just > > > >> > > nothing more is required. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will > > > >> > > do to the marriage part . > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be > > > >> compatibility > > > >> > > problems in the marriage. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again > > there > > > >> > > are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in > > > >> the > > > >> > > relationships. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then > > it is > > > >> > > most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun > > > >> > > antardasha please). > > > >> > > > > > >> > > How to obtain above results I have already explained several > > times > > > >> in > > > >> > > the past in this Group. I will not repeat. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die > > > >> > > immediately after birth. > > > >> > > Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other > > factors. > > > >> > > Last segment - Will have a child > > > >> > > > > > >> > > (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun > > antardasha) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > <%40> > > > >> <%40> > > > >> > > <%40>, devisigh > > > >> > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > * " Energy Distribution " * > > > >> > > > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which > > distributed > > > >> > > to 12 > > > >> > > > houses of matters > > > >> > > > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places > > > >> negative. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other > > > >> planets > > > >> > > > aspects and other factors. > > > >> > > > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy > > > >> positive > > > >> > > and > > > >> > > > negative. > > > >> > > > after looking this distribution we can come up with > > reasoning that > > > >> > > suits > > > >> > > > best for all this distribution > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > * " Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign " * > > > >> > > > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell > > very less > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > > > >> > > > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to > > > >> 7th > > > >> > > house > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th > > house) > > > >> and > > > >> > > > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th > > (partnerships) > > > >> so > > > >> > > > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to > > work > > > >> and > > > >> > > > religious deeds. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > > > >> > > > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and > > > >> Religious/Prosperity > > > >> > > > matters > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > * " Scorpion " * > > > >> > > > As Native has Scorpion Sun ....so certainly he has this energy > > > >> > > ....he is > > > >> > > > scorpion > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ------------------ > > > >> > > > Regards, > > > >> > > > Devisingh > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga " Energy > > > >> > > > > Distribution " . Can you please explain us what is this ? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio > > sign, > > > >> > > and you > > > >> > > > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > > > >> > > > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what > > > >> departments? > > > >> > > Will > > > >> > > > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her > > > >> husband > > > >> > > > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in > > > >> what > > > >> > > sense > > > >> > > > > actually ? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still > > > >> remains > > > >> > > > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in > > what way > > > >> > > will it > > > >> > > > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not > > help the > > > >> native > > > >> > > > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or > > > >> > > known as a > > > >> > > > > Scorpion ? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, I apologizes it is my engineering came after some calculations (i have steps) as results where same and quick for me. will work out with some examples and events for same Related to last query below is source of that Zero degree Tauras native Sun in Scorpio in 7th and Su antra results --If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there would be compatibility problems in the marriage. --If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die immediately after birth. i was thinking to map degree with each house as below but i got from below mail this is incorrect --considering 7th house has scorpio (water sign) sun nakshtra lord would be Ju and Ju is lord of 8,12 --considering 5th house has virgo (earth sign ) sun nakshatra lord would be sun and sun is lord of 4th ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, But I never spoke in my previous mails about Fire,Earth or Airy or Watery signs to be used in the manner you have used.Neither did I spoke about any movements in 2nd 3rd or 4th quarter. neither did I speak about adding degree of planet and Asc. What are these additions ? from where have they come ? They create only headaches. Please use only the simple technique I have given, if you are actually looking for how I derived those results, which has already been explained in simple language. Now coming to your queries - //if planet falls in Ra/Ke nakshtra they which house to be used? --my thought it could be Ra same as St ...another thought take Ra same as sign lord...please explain // To check results of Rahu and Ketu what effects they will bring in - First the planet in conjunction of the node within 4 degrees. Next The nakshatra in which the Node is placed. Next the Sign lord results in which sign the Node is placed. Finally the planet/house aspected by Rahu. //if natal lord is week and in 6,8,12 then take Mo chart? --i think we can validate events using Mo chart if they works then Mo chart can be taken instead Natal// Natal Chart is the only Chart to be taken for the method I have given. If You think that the Moon or Sun Chart can be taken, then no one to stop you from doing that. //how to predict dasha for other all house except where planet resides?// We do not have to predict Dasha for houses. we have to predict what results each planet will give. These 9 Planets will cov er all the 12 houses in question, so no seperate study is necessary. //--one thought take planet degree and find out lord for all signs not sure // I do not understand what is meant by this. best wishes, bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > I am Really sorry i think i may have made some mistake here... > This is my humble attempt do demonstrate what i learned after doing > exercise to solve questions provided by you > Hope below lines of yours email may helps which is source of this if you > are still confused > > "Once you have understood this, please xplain to Senthil ji and > Chakroborty ji, why I mentioned to them on one thread that the native > will have post graduations mostly in Venus or Chandar antar and also > attain PhD levels if he wishes to, in those periods." > > Related to discussion no point to discuss does not have any experience > with this technique i am student of KAS > > Some questions came after doing exercise as i have no experience of > using this technique just after learned from you and provided my thought > they may be completely offtrack please provide your explanations and > comment that really helps much > > if planet falls in Ra/Ke nakshtra they which house to be used? > --my thought it could be Ra same as St ...another thought take Ra same > as sign lord...please explain > if natal lord is week and in 6,8,12 then take Mo chart? > --i think we can validate events using Mo chart if they works then Mo > chart can be taken instead Natal > how to predict dasha for other all house except where planet resides? > --one thought take planet degree and find out lord for all signs not sure > > hope makes some sense > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > Actually i cannot understand if you are demonstrating some technique, > > or asking for some explanations or discussing something and looking > > for comments. Exactly what are we talking here. And in connection to > > what ? I am really confused to comment on this. > > Please guide. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Please do not take my mistakes seriously and please provide your > > > feedback that is appreciated as still i am learning. > > > Putting in mathematical form to make it simple and Quick --Bhaskar Ji > > > can comment here > > > > > > Sequence of Bhukti is Ke,Ve,Su,Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,St,Me > > > > > > 1. Fire Sign Bhukti start With Ke then Ve..... > > > 2. Earth Sign Bhukti Start with Su 2nd quarter(3 quarter) then Mo.... > > > 3. Air Sign Bhukti Start with Ma 3rd quarter(2 quarter) then Ra.... > > > 4. Water Sign Bhukti Start with Ju 4th quarter(1 quarter) then St.... > > > > > > --Add degree of Asc and Planet and then find out quarter to be passed > > > (1 quarter is 3 degree and 20 min) > > > --Look planet sign placed in natal chart and then get starting point > > > from where to be counting started > > > --count quarter and find out ruler > > > --get ruler house lordship for natal chart. > > > > > > Some doubts and my answers may be wrong i have not tested as such > > > --Treat Ra lord ships same as St and Ke lord ships same as Ma > > > --Mo sign can be used in place of natal chart and same process can be > > > carried out. > > > > > > e.g.Zero degree Taurus native has scorpio sign and Sun 12 degree in 7th > > > house. > > > ---total 12 degree so 3 quarter passed and gets placed in 4th > > > ---Scorpio sign so start with Ju 4th,st........ > > > ---As 3 quarter to be passed so we left ju 4th,st-1-2....and it came > > st-3 > > > ---we get ruler planet Saturn which is having ruler ship on 9th and > > 10th > > > house > > > ---now predict event in Sun Dasha > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Please find below is response from my side................. > > > > > > > > a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > > > > ----vishakha last quarter,anuradha,jyeshdha > > > > > > > > b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > > > > ----It depends on Ascendent degree > > > > ----if ascendence is more then 3.20 then anuradha,jyestha and moola > > > > 1st secor like this > > > > > > > > c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > > > > ----vishakha ruled by jupitor,anuradha by saturn and jyestha by > > Mercury > > > > > > > > d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > > > > taurus Lagna ? > > > > ----Jupitor is lord of *8th *and 11th,saturn is lord of 9th and > > > > 10th,Me is lord of 2nd and 5th from ascedence > > > > ----however jupitor is lord of 2nd and 5th,saturn is lord of 3rd and > > > > 5th,Me is lord of 8th and 11th from 7th itself > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dear Devisingh ji, > > > >> > > > >> Please let me know - > > > >> > > > >> a) which nakshatras does the 7th house hold for a Taurus native. > > > >> > > > >> b) upto what extent in degrees do they remain. > > > >> > > > >> c) Who are the owners of these Nakshatras. > > > >> > > > >> d) these owners of the Nakshatras, are owners of which houses for the > > > >> taurus Lagna ? > > > >> > > > >> If You can do this simple excersise then you will be able to > > crack the > > > >> essence of predictive astrology and will never need to learn > > complicated > > > >> rules or mugging up of nonsense contradictory dictums which make no > > > >> sense without al being applied at a time. > > > >> > > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40>, devisigh > > > >> <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > >> > > > > >> > Can you please elaborate logic behind this?? > > > >> > I just tried to get logic for Sun in the 7th for Taurus native and > > > >> > marriage effect as per your understanding. > > > >> > > > > >> > For degree portion 0-16.40 degree it moves so navamsa of > > > >> Mo,Su,Me,Ve,Ma > > > >> > After that up to 30degree it is in navamsa of Ju and St > > > >> > so does reasoning goes in this way?? > > > >> > > > > >> > ------------------ > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Devisingh > > > >> > > > > >> > Bhaskar wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Dear Devisingh ji and all, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > There is nothing much to see here, > > > >> > > I will show a most simple way to check what results the Sun will > > > >> give > > > >> > > in Scorpio, for a Taurus native. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Just check the degrees of the Sun in the Horoscope.That is > > enough. > > > >> > > There are no nonsense ambigous rules necessary. No too much > > of using > > > >> > > brains. No contradictions,No too much of theory or big > > thesis. Just > > > >> > > nothing more is required. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > We will talk only with regards to what the Sun in the 7th will > > > >> > > do to the marriage part . > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 0-3.20 degrees then there woold be > > > >> compatibility > > > >> > > problems in the marriage. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If the Sun is between 3.20 degrees - 16.40 degrees then again > > there > > > >> > > are going to be problems in compatibility and a daily headache in > > > >> the > > > >> > > relationships. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > But if the Sun is between 16.40 degrees - 30.00 degrees then > > it is > > > >> > > most likely to be a Love marriage and a marriage full of Love. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > (Note- Love marriage only if the marriage takes place in the Sun > > > >> > > antardasha please). > > > >> > > > > > >> > > How to obtain above results I have already explained several > > times > > > >> in > > > >> > > the past in this Group. I will not repeat. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The same rules if app;lied to check about children , then > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If Sun between 0-3.20 degrees, the child will be aborted or die > > > >> > > immediately after birth. > > > >> > > Next segment - May be there, may not be depending on other > > factors. > > > >> > > Last segment - Will have a child > > > >> > > > > > >> > > (Again the above is spoken of, if delivery is within Sun > > antardasha) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > <%40> > > > >> <%40> > > > >> > > <%40>, devisigh > > > >> > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Lots of questions ....Let me take one by one > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > *"Energy Distribution"* > > > >> > > > All 7 planets are considered as source of energy which > > distributed > > > >> > > to 12 > > > >> > > > houses of matters > > > >> > > > Energy distributed to some places positive and rest places > > > >> negative. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > However Amount of energy depends on Nakshatra/NK Lord and other > > > >> planets > > > >> > > > aspects and other factors. > > > >> > > > So House of concern gets contributed by each planets energy > > > >> positive > > > >> > > and > > > >> > > > negative. > > > >> > > > after looking this distribution we can come up with > > reasoning that > > > >> > > suits > > > >> > > > best for all this distribution > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > *"Sun in 7th in Scorpio sign"* > > > >> > > > At first glance without seeing anything we can only tell > > very less > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Asc will be taurus and sun will be Lord of 4th house. > > > >> > > > It can be said that this sun will contribute positive energy to > > > >> 7th > > > >> > > house > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ---Reasoning come up is su karak for responsibilities(10th > > house) > > > >> and > > > >> > > > Luck/Dharm/Religion (9th house) contribute to 7th > > (partnerships) > > > >> so > > > >> > > > natives partnership with his spouse will be good related to > > work > > > >> and > > > >> > > > religious deeds. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ---so this scorpion sun energy gives good results related to > > > >> > > > spouse......spouse will helps native in work and > > > >> Religious/Prosperity > > > >> > > > matters > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > *"Scorpion"* > > > >> > > > As Native has Scorpion Sun .....so certainly he has this energy > > > >> > > ....he is > > > >> > > > scorpion > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > ------------------ > > > >> > > > Regards, > > > >> > > > Devisingh > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 1)This is another new term unheard of in Astakvarga "Energy > > > >> > > > > Distribution". Can you please explain us what is this ? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 2) We were initially speaking about Sun in 7th in Scorpio > > sign, > > > >> > > and you > > > >> > > > > mentioned it helps the spouse ? But You have not clarified > > > >> > > > > astrologically how it can help the spouse and in what > > > >> departments? > > > >> > > Will > > > >> > > > > it help her to eat more food, dress like an actress, love her > > > >> husband > > > >> > > > > more, help her in inviting or attracting people - help her in > > > >> what > > > >> > > sense > > > >> > > > > actually ? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > 3)The unwritten query of our previous communication still > > > >> remains > > > >> > > > > unanswered. If this position helps the spouse, then in > > what way > > > >> > > will it > > > >> > > > > help the native we were talking about ? Or will it not > > help the > > > >> native > > > >> > > > > at all. And would the native with Sun in Scorpio be called or > > > >> > > known as a > > > >> > > > > Scorpion ? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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