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Dear Respected Members,

 

Namaste.

 

I was looking through this 12 year cycles in my life, In each case Jupiter- my

lagnesh- was in capricorn(deb)

 

Each time the muntha in varshapal was in Gemini, my 7th house.

 

1973

 

Vim dasha Moon MD and moon AD

 

Varsha chart. Muntha lagna is cancer, muntha in gemini with sun, shani ketu

and in 12H from muntha lagna.

 

Double transit No double transit as shani is in 8H from jupiter.

 

 

1985

 

Vim dasha Mars MD and Mars AD

 

Varsha chart Muntha lagna is leo, muntha in gemini,with mars and shani in 11H

from muntha lagna

 

Double transit Double transit in Cancer.

 

 

1997

 

Vim dasha Rahu Md and Shani AD

 

Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Virgo, Muntha in gemini, with sun in 10H from

muntha lagna

 

Double transit Double transit in Virgo and Pisces.

 

 

2009

 

Vim dasha Jupiter MD and Jupiter AD

 

Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Libra, Muntha in gemini with sun and mercury, in

9H from muntha lagna

 

Double transit Double transit in Leo and Aquarius

 

 

One thing that repeats is that I had change the place of residence all the

periods (except 2009--ongoing period -- although the desire is very much there)

In 1985 and on 1997 - I also took a carrer break.. in 1985 I gave up work in Dec

1985 and went back to work in January 1987.

In 1997 (December), I gave up my regular professional job, to concentrate on my

own business.

 

In 1973, I knew that we had moved residence, and I phoned my mother to confirm

that this was true, that we did move home in November 1973.

 

This is of course, my own experiences,, and it doesnt mean much unless it is

reproduced by others too.

 

Please do not think I am trying to make any statements here, it is purely an

acedemic attempt to see if any corellation is present..

 

warmest regards,

Sheevani

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Dear Sheevani ji,

That was informative. But what is this " Muntha lagna " ? I am not much aware

about it and its use - can you (or anyone else) elaborate a bit about it. From

which system this concept of Muntha lagna comes?

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sheevani " <sheevani147

wrote:

>

> Dear Respected Members,

>

> Namaste.

>

> I was looking through this 12 year cycles in my life, In each case Jupiter- my

lagnesh- was in capricorn(deb)

>

> Each time the muntha in varshapal was in Gemini, my 7th house.

>

> 1973

>

> Vim dasha Moon MD and moon AD

>

> Varsha chart. Muntha lagna is cancer, muntha in gemini with sun, shani

ketu and in 12H from muntha lagna.

>

> Double transit No double transit as shani is in 8H from jupiter.

>

>

> 1985

>

> Vim dasha Mars MD and Mars AD

>

> Varsha chart Muntha lagna is leo, muntha in gemini,with mars and shani in 11H

from muntha lagna

>

> Double transit Double transit in Cancer.

>

>

> 1997

>

> Vim dasha Rahu Md and Shani AD

>

> Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Virgo, Muntha in gemini, with sun in 10H from

muntha lagna

>

> Double transit Double transit in Virgo and Pisces.

>

>

> 2009

>

> Vim dasha Jupiter MD and Jupiter AD

>

> Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Libra, Muntha in gemini with sun and mercury, in

9H from muntha lagna

>

> Double transit Double transit in Leo and Aquarius

>

>

> One thing that repeats is that I had change the place of residence all the

periods (except 2009--ongoing period -- although the desire is very much there)

> In 1985 and on 1997 - I also took a carrer break.. in 1985 I gave up work in

Dec 1985 and went back to work in January 1987.

> In 1997 (December), I gave up my regular professional job, to concentrate on

my own business.

>

> In 1973, I knew that we had moved residence, and I phoned my mother to confirm

that this was true, that we did move home in November 1973.

>

> This is of course, my own experiences,, and it doesnt mean much unless it is

reproduced by others too.

>

> Please do not think I am trying to make any statements here, it is purely an

acedemic attempt to see if any corellation is present..

>

> warmest regards,

> Sheevani

>

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Dear Sreenadh ji,

 

Namaste,

 

Varsha chart is the annular " solar return " chart, which is part of the Tajika

system. The rising lagna at the time when sun returns to its exact degrees

(position) is the muntha lagna. Muntha in my case will be the sign gemini,

wherever the sign appears in the chart.

 

Placement of muntha in 9,10 and 11H is considered auspicious and in houses

4,6,7,8,12 is inauspicious, and other houses give mixed results. The strongest

planet in the chart becomes the year lord. The placement of the lagnesh is also

considered important. The dashas used is a compressed form of the Vim dasha,

called the mudda dasha,

 

Hope that helps..

 

warmest regards

Sheevani

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Sheevani ji,

> That was informative. But what is this " Muntha lagna " ? I am not much aware

about it and its use - can you (or anyone else) elaborate a bit about it. From

which system this concept of Muntha lagna comes?

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected Members,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > I was looking through this 12 year cycles in my life, In each case Jupiter-

my lagnesh- was in capricorn(deb)

> >

> > Each time the muntha in varshapal was in Gemini, my 7th house.

> >

> > 1973

> >

> > Vim dasha Moon MD and moon AD

> >

> > Varsha chart. Muntha lagna is cancer, muntha in gemini with sun, shani

ketu and in 12H from muntha lagna.

> >

> > Double transit No double transit as shani is in 8H from jupiter.

> >

> >

> > 1985

> >

> > Vim dasha Mars MD and Mars AD

> >

> > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is leo, muntha in gemini,with mars and shani in

11H from muntha lagna

> >

> > Double transit Double transit in Cancer.

> >

> >

> > 1997

> >

> > Vim dasha Rahu Md and Shani AD

> >

> > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Virgo, Muntha in gemini, with sun in 10H from

muntha lagna

> >

> > Double transit Double transit in Virgo and Pisces.

> >

> >

> > 2009

> >

> > Vim dasha Jupiter MD and Jupiter AD

> >

> > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Libra, Muntha in gemini with sun and mercury,

in 9H from muntha lagna

> >

> > Double transit Double transit in Leo and Aquarius

> >

> >

> > One thing that repeats is that I had change the place of residence all the

periods (except 2009--ongoing period -- although the desire is very much there)

> > In 1985 and on 1997 - I also took a carrer break.. in 1985 I gave up work in

Dec 1985 and went back to work in January 1987.

> > In 1997 (December), I gave up my regular professional job, to concentrate on

my own business.

> >

> > In 1973, I knew that we had moved residence, and I phoned my mother to

confirm that this was true, that we did move home in November 1973.

> >

> > This is of course, my own experiences,, and it doesnt mean much unless it is

reproduced by others too.

> >

> > Please do not think I am trying to make any statements here, it is purely an

acedemic attempt to see if any corellation is present..

> >

> > warmest regards,

> > Sheevani

> >

>

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Dear Sreenadh Ji,

 

The Varshaphal is a Tajika western import chart. It is very similar to the Western Solar Progression techniques that western astrologers use, EXCEPT, the big difference being that Western Astrology uses the "Current location" of the person to calcualate the Solar Return while Varshaphal uses the "Birth Location" of the person to calculate the Solar Return. The rules are very different and mostly western astrology rules, given nice Sanskrit names. It has western astrology yogas as well. It is a completely different system with its own rules and actually quite complex.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Sheevani <sheevani147 Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 3:46:40 AM Re: 12 year cycles..

Dear Sreenadh ji,Namaste,Varsha chart is the annular "solar return" chart, which is part of the Tajika system. The rising lagna at the time when sun returns to its exact degrees (position) is the muntha lagna. Muntha in my case will be the sign gemini, wherever the sign appears in the chart.Placement of muntha in 9,10 and 11H is considered auspicious and in houses 4,6,7,8,12 is inauspicious, and other houses give mixed results. The strongest planet in the chart becomes the year lord. The placement of the lagnesh is also considered important. The dashas used is a compressed form of the Vim dasha, called the mudda dasha,Hope that helps..warmest regardsSheevaniancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" <sreesog >

wrote:>> Dear Sheevani ji, > That was informative. But what is this "Muntha lagna"? I am not much aware about it and its use - can you (or anyone else) elaborate a bit about it. From which system this concept of Muntha lagna comes? > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sheevani" <sheevani147@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Respected Members,> > > > Namaste.> > > > I was looking through this 12 year cycles in my life, In each case Jupiter- my lagnesh- was in capricorn(deb)> > > > Each time the muntha in varshapal was in Gemini, my 7th house.> > > > 1973> > > > Vim dasha Moon MD and moon AD>

> > > Varsha chart. Muntha lagna is cancer, muntha in gemini with sun, shani ketu and in 12H from muntha lagna.> > > > Double transit No double transit as shani is in 8H from jupiter.> > > > > > 1985> > > > Vim dasha Mars MD and Mars AD> > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is leo, muntha in gemini,with mars and shani in 11H from muntha lagna> > > > Double transit Double transit in Cancer.> > > > > > 1997> > > > Vim dasha Rahu Md and Shani AD> > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Virgo, Muntha in gemini, with sun in 10H from muntha lagna> > > > Double transit Double transit in Virgo and Pisces.> > > > > > 2009> > > > Vim dasha Jupiter MD and Jupiter AD> > > > Varsha chart Muntha

lagna is Libra, Muntha in gemini with sun and mercury, in 9H from muntha lagna> > > > Double transit Double transit in Leo and Aquarius> > > > > > One thing that repeats is that I had change the place of residence all the periods (except 2009--ongoing period -- although the desire is very much there)> > In 1985 and on 1997 - I also took a carrer break.. in 1985 I gave up work in Dec 1985 and went back to work in January 1987. > > In 1997 (December), I gave up my regular professional job, to concentrate on my own business.> > > > In 1973, I knew that we had moved residence, and I phoned my mother to confirm that this was true, that we did move home in November 1973.> > > > This is of course, my own experiences, , and it doesnt mean much unless it is reproduced by others too.> > > > Please do not think I am trying to make any

statements here, it is purely an acedemic attempt to see if any corellation is present..> > > > warmest regards,> > Sheevani> >>

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Dear Manoj ji and Sheevani ji,

 

I do not think that Sreenadh ji does not know about the Tajika or

varshaphala or Muntha, what it is. He is trying to aim for something

else when he is questioning thus. Thank God I did not answer his mail. I

am not sure of his intentions . I do not wish to fall in his traps.

Those who appear as Naives may not be Knaves. Those who appear as Rajas

may actually be a Ranka. Those who appear as simple and humble may

actually be the wisest. God knows in this world who is who. Thank God

apne paas jyaada dimaag nahin hai so lagaate hi nahin hain.

 

HaHa.

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To whom this may Concern

Now do not blame me if somebody replies to me in Hindi. i have not asked anyone to exchange communications with me in Hindi. So please keep me out of any such allegations.

Now to answer to Sheevani ji,

door se dekha toh ande ubal rahe the

paas jakar dekha toh buddhe ganje ucchal rahe the.

Sometimes what is apparent, is Not actually. This is all the play of Maya.

Even Surya narayan got deceived by Chhaya. So who are we .

regards/Bhaskar.

 

, "Sheevani" <sheevani147 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > Namaste..> > Kisi ne humen pucha, so hum ne keh diya.. Yeh bade Dimarg walon ke 'tehde maide' raston ka hamen kya pata? Hum tehre naadaan, in baaton mein hai anjaan.> > warmest regards,> Sheevani> > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Manoj ji and Sheevani ji,> > > > I do not think that Sreenadh ji does not know about the Tajika or> > varshaphala or Muntha, what it is. He is trying to aim for something> > else when he is questioning thus. Thank God I did not answer his mail. I> > am not sure of his intentions . I do not wish to fall in his traps.> > Those who appear as Naives may not be Knaves. Those who appear as Rajas> > may actually be a Ranka. Those who appear as simple and humble may> > actually be the wisest. God knows in this world who is who. Thank God> > apne paas jyaada dimaag nahin hai so lagaate hi nahin hain.> > > > HaHa.> >>

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Dear Sheevani ji,

Yes, that was helpful. Thanks for the informative mail. :)

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sheevani " <sheevani147

wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> Varsha chart is the annular " solar return " chart, which is part of the Tajika

system. The rising lagna at the time when sun returns to its exact degrees

(position) is the muntha lagna. Muntha in my case will be the sign gemini,

wherever the sign appears in the chart.

>

> Placement of muntha in 9,10 and 11H is considered auspicious and in houses

4,6,7,8,12 is inauspicious, and other houses give mixed results. The strongest

planet in the chart becomes the year lord. The placement of the lagnesh is also

considered important. The dashas used is a compressed form of the Vim dasha,

called the mudda dasha,

>

> Hope that helps..

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

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Dear Viyay ji.

 

Namaste.

 

Thank you for your information..

 

I think in Jhora you can see both types of charts under tajaka. One is called

just the tajika chart and the other is called the Tajika sunrise chart.

 

The muntha is of course the solar progression and it moves by 1 rashi per year.

 

I am happy to admit that my knowledge of this system may not be complete. You

may be more experoence in this system, and if you feel so inclined to teach, I

am more than willing to learn.

 

warmest regards

Sheevani

 

, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj

wrote:

Dear Sheevaniji and all,

>

> Hare Hrsna,

>

> //Varsha chart is the annular " solar return " chart, which is part of the

Tajika system. The rising lagna at the time when sun returns to its exact

degrees (position) is the muntha lagna. Muntha in my case will be the sign

gemini,wherever the sign appears in the chart.//

>

> I have different opinion to above.

>

> Muntha move one house per year in the same manner as Sreenadh has presented

the rotating lagna concept from Sasanka Saradeeyam.

> in 13th year Muntha will be in lagna of natal horoscope.

> The spusta of muntha will be same as lagna spusta + 30 degree jump every year.

>

> The only difference is that it always move forward for all signs ( not

backwards for even signs). So rotating concept is used by tajik system. This

concept of muntha is used in natal chart.

>

> Now we can erect Tajik varsh Chart, in this chart when the natal position of

sun repeats same next year that very moment rising lagna will be the Varsha

lagna, so in all varsha lagna sun position will be same degree wise. Here we

will put the above muntha position of the natal chart in the varsha chart. This

chart can be read independently.

>

> So you can have two conclusion 1) by putting muntha in natal chart and

rotating the lagna to muntha position and 2) varsha lagna chart and muntha

position from it.

>

> This is also an effective technique as we are observing transit as well as

rotation of lagna exactly on the next year under solar year cycle.

>

> Thankyou,

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Varsha chart is the annular " solar return " chart, which is part of the

Tajika system. The rising lagna at the time when sun returns to its exact

degrees (position) is the muntha lagna. Muntha in my case will be the sign

gemini, wherever the sign appears in the chart.

> >

> > Placement of muntha in 9,10 and 11H is considered auspicious and in houses

4,6,7,8,12 is inauspicious, and other houses give mixed results. The strongest

planet in the chart becomes the year lord. The placement of the lagnesh is also

considered important. The dashas used is a compressed form of the Vim dasha,

called the mudda dasha,

> >

> > Hope that helps..

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > , " sreesog " <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sheevani ji,

> > > That was informative. But what is this " Muntha lagna " ? I am not much

aware about it and its use - can you (or anyone else) elaborate a bit about it.

From which system this concept of Muntha lagna comes?

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Respected Members,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > I was looking through this 12 year cycles in my life, In each case

Jupiter- my lagnesh- was in capricorn(deb)

> > > >

> > > > Each time the muntha in varshapal was in Gemini, my 7th house.

> > > >

> > > > 1973

> > > >

> > > > Vim dasha Moon MD and moon AD

> > > >

> > > > Varsha chart. Muntha lagna is cancer, muntha in gemini with sun,

shani ketu and in 12H from muntha lagna.

> > > >

> > > > Double transit No double transit as shani is in 8H from jupiter.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1985

> > > >

> > > > Vim dasha Mars MD and Mars AD

> > > >

> > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is leo, muntha in gemini,with mars and shani

in 11H from muntha lagna

> > > >

> > > > Double transit Double transit in Cancer.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1997

> > > >

> > > > Vim dasha Rahu Md and Shani AD

> > > >

> > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Virgo, Muntha in gemini, with sun in 10H

from muntha lagna

> > > >

> > > > Double transit Double transit in Virgo and Pisces.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2009

> > > >

> > > > Vim dasha Jupiter MD and Jupiter AD

> > > >

> > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Libra, Muntha in gemini with sun and

mercury, in 9H from muntha lagna

> > > >

> > > > Double transit Double transit in Leo and Aquarius

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > One thing that repeats is that I had change the place of residence all

the periods (except 2009--ongoing period -- although the desire is very much

there)

> > > > In 1985 and on 1997 - I also took a carrer break.. in 1985 I gave up

work in Dec 1985 and went back to work in January 1987.

> > > > In 1997 (December), I gave up my regular professional job, to

concentrate on my own business.

> > > >

> > > > In 1973, I knew that we had moved residence, and I phoned my mother to

confirm that this was true, that we did move home in November 1973.

> > > >

> > > > This is of course, my own experiences,, and it doesnt mean much unless

it is reproduced by others too.

> > > >

> > > > Please do not think I am trying to make any statements here, it is

purely an acedemic attempt to see if any corellation is present..

> > > >

> > > > warmest regards,

> > > > Sheevani

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Vijay Ji,

 

I am also a bit confused. Could you please take up an example and explain a bit further?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 8:58:09 PM Re: 12 year cycles..

Dear Sheevaniji,// One is called just the tajika chart and the other is called the Tajika sunrise chart.//Tajika sunrise is different, i am not talking of this chart. I am sorry i am not able to convey my message properly.Tajik chart erected in Jhora same as per point 2: for eg Sreenadhji chart, Tajik chart rises with mithun lagna with muntha placed in 6th house.In this chart apply all yoga of Tajik chart like, Itsaal, Israf, Sahams etc.In point 1) we are just placing muntha in natal chart for eg in Sreenadhji horoscope , muntha is in 3rd house in the natal chart for 39th running year, now we can rotate third house to lagna (in natal chart itself) and observe the results. Here Muntha is in 3\11 relationship with natal lagna.I hope i am clear now :)Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sheevani" <sheevani147@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Viyay ji.> > Namaste.> > Thank you for your information. .> > I think in Jhora you can see both types of charts under tajaka. One is called just the tajika chart and the other is called the Tajika sunrise chart.> > The muntha is of course the solar progression and it moves by 1 rashi per year.> > I am happy to admit that my knowledge of this system may not be complete. You may be more experoence in this system, and if you feel so inclined to teach, I am more than willing to learn.> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > ancient_indian_

astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji and all,> > > > Hare Hrsna,> > > > //Varsha chart is the annular "solar return" chart, which is part of the Tajika system. The rising lagna at the time when sun returns to its exact degrees (position) is the muntha lagna. Muntha in my case will be the sign gemini,wherever the sign appears in the chart.//> > > > I have different opinion to above.> > > > Muntha move one house per year in the same manner as Sreenadh has presented the rotating lagna concept from Sasanka Saradeeyam.> > in 13th year Muntha will be in lagna of natal horoscope.> > The spusta of muntha will be same as lagna spusta + 30 degree jump every year.> > > > The only difference is that it

always move forward for all signs ( not backwards for even signs). So rotating concept is used by tajik system. This concept of muntha is used in natal chart.> > > > Now we can erect Tajik varsh Chart, in this chart when the natal position of sun repeats same next year that very moment rising lagna will be the Varsha lagna, so in all varsha lagna sun position will be same degree wise. Here we will put the above muntha position of the natal chart in the varsha chart. This chart can be read independently.> > > > So you can have two conclusion 1) by putting muntha in natal chart and rotating the lagna to muntha position and 2) varsha lagna chart and muntha position from it.> > > > This is also an effective technique as we are observing transit as well as rotation of lagna exactly on the next year under solar year cycle.> > > > Thankyou,> > Best Wishes,> >

Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sheevani" <sheevani147@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > Varsha chart is the annular "solar return" chart, which is part of the Tajika system. The rising lagna at the time when sun returns to its exact degrees (position) is the muntha lagna. Muntha in my case will be the sign gemini, wherever the sign appears in the chart.> > > > > > Placement of muntha in 9,10 and 11H is considered auspicious and in houses 4,6,7,8,12 is inauspicious, and other houses give mixed results. The strongest planet in the

chart becomes the year lord. The placement of the lagnesh is also considered important. The dashas used is a compressed form of the Vim dasha, called the mudda dasha,> > > > > > Hope that helps..> > > > > > warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > > > That was informative. But what is this "Muntha lagna"? I am not much aware about it and its use - can you (or anyone else) elaborate a bit about it. From which system this concept of Muntha lagna comes? > > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sheevani" <sheevani147@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Respected Members,> > > > > > > > > > Namaste.> > > > > > > > > > I was looking through this 12 year cycles in my life, In each case Jupiter- my lagnesh- was in capricorn(deb)> > > > > > > > > > Each time the muntha in varshapal was in Gemini, my 7th house.> > > > > > > > > > 1973> > > > > > > > > > Vim dasha Moon MD and moon AD> > > > > > > > > > Varsha chart. Muntha lagna is cancer, muntha in gemini with

sun, shani ketu and in 12H from muntha lagna.> > > > > > > > > > Double transit No double transit as shani is in 8H from jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1985> > > > > > > > > > Vim dasha Mars MD and Mars AD> > > > > > > > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is leo, muntha in gemini,with mars and shani in 11H from muntha lagna> > > > > > > > > > Double transit Double transit in Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1997> > > > > > > > > > Vim dasha Rahu Md and Shani AD> > > > > > > > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Virgo, Muntha in gemini, with sun in 10H from muntha lagna> > > > > > > >

> > Double transit Double transit in Virgo and Pisces.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009> > > > > > > > > > Vim dasha Jupiter MD and Jupiter AD> > > > > > > > > > Varsha chart Muntha lagna is Libra, Muntha in gemini with sun and mercury, in 9H from muntha lagna> > > > > > > > > > Double transit Double transit in Leo and Aquarius> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing that repeats is that I had change the place of residence all the periods (except 2009--ongoing period -- although the desire is very much there)> > > > > In 1985 and on 1997 - I also took a carrer break.. in 1985 I gave up work in Dec 1985 and went back to work in January 1987. > > > > > In 1997 (December), I gave up my

regular professional job, to concentrate on my own business.> > > > > > > > > > In 1973, I knew that we had moved residence, and I phoned my mother to confirm that this was true, that we did move home in November 1973.> > > > > > > > > > This is of course, my own experiences, , and it doesnt mean much unless it is reproduced by others too.> > > > > > > > > > Please do not think I am trying to make any statements here, it is purely an acedemic attempt to see if any corellation is present..> > > > > > > > > > warmest regards,> > > > > Sheevani> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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